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Hadith that he visited people that lost their loved ones?

AbuTwins:


Show us the hadith!

You are a liar till you bring it.

It is not Islamic but your Alfas are doing it.

They even collect money by force and deception from people during fidaus prayer.

When any law turns against Muslims, they start denying and rejecting it.

They want to make Islam look perfect but keep on destroying and exposing it further.

Brother, we are here to learn from one another. The OP clearly said doing Fidau prayer is Bid'iah.

77up:
They didn't say praying for a dead loved ones bad , infact it is good but , ganusi is bidiah

madridguy:
So why are you offering prayer for him after each prayer when he has told you not to do so?

He didn’t say we shouldn’t him in our prayers(Infact there is very authentic Hadith that advises us to do this).
He only asked us not to organize a coming together for prayers for him

When your dad ed on, supposing he died in Kaduna and you have families scattered around the country. When they come to visit your mom and the children, did they offer prayer to him or they just come and go?

NOETHNICITY:
Visiting the bereaved is quite different from organizing a coming together for prayers and other stuff

Very different

rock003:
It is not Islamic but your Alfas are doing it.

They even collect money by force and deception from people during fidaus prayer.

When any law turns against Muslims, they start denying and rejecting it.

They want to make Islam look perfect but keep on destroying and exposing it further.

Bigotry and hate for Islam has blinded you and wiped out your intellect


This thread is only for Muslims and not for bigots

madridguy:
Hadith that he visited people that lost their loved ones?

The Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam (may Allaahexalt his mention) said: “There is no Muslim who consoles his fellow Muslim except that Allaah would clad him with precious garments of dignity on the Day of Judgement.”

This one is clear! Console them, not eat their food and collect their money!

Now, what the hadith you're quoting is referring to is Fidau. Your late father may not subscribe to the congregation prayer hence he said no one should gather for him.

But what you are doing after each obligatory prayer is Fidau for him.

NOETHNICITY:
He didn’t say we shouldn’t him in our prayers(Infact there is very authentic Hadith that advises us to do this).
He only asked us not to organize a coming together for prayers for him

Do we have any Hadith that condemned them for giving out Sadaqoh for their loved ones? Either food, money or clothes?

AbuTwins:


The Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam (may Allaahexalt his mention) said: “There is no Muslim who consoles his fellow Muslim except that Allaah would clad him with precious garments of dignity on the Day of Judgement.”

This one is clear! Console them, not eat their food and collect their money!

madridguy:
Brother, we are here to learn from one another. The OP clearly said doing Fidau prayer is Bid'iah.

It is bid'ah if done the way your alfas do it!

madridguy:
Brother, we are here to learn from one another. The OP clearly said doing Fidau prayer is Bid'iah.

What op was saying is actually right , from fidau prayer, ganusi follows. It is normal to pray for the dead but not to involve Amala and ewedu or akara.

madridguy:
Do we have any Hadith that condemned them for giving out Sadaqoh for their loved ones? Either food, money or clothes?

This is not what we are discussing in "Ganu si"!

Jareer ibn ‘Abdullah Al-Bajali may Allaah be pleased with him said: “We used to consider gathering at the dead person's home and making meals for that a kind of lamentation.” [Ahmad]

Imam An-Nawawi may Allaah have mercy upon him said in al-Majmoo’: “Imam Ash-Shaafi’i and his companions (may Allaah have mercy upon them) said: 'it is undesirable to sit down while presenting condolences. Sitting here means that the dead person's family gather in a place and people come to present their condolences. What is appropriate is that everyone goes about their work and needs.”

madridguy:
Now, what the hadith you're quoting is referring to is Fidau. Your late father may not subscribe to the congregation prayer hence he said no one should gather for him.

But what you are doing after each obligatory prayer is Fidau for him.

Why do you like changing goal posts to accommodate your bid'ah?

77up:
What op was saying is actually right , from fidau prayer, ganusi follows. It is normal to pray for the dead but not to involve Amala and ewedu or akara.

Jazaak Allahu Khayran!

May Allah grant us all understanding and forgive us our past!

madridguy:
Now, what the hadith you're quoting is referring to is Fidau. Your late father may not subscribe to the congregation prayer hence he said no one should gather for him.

But what you are doing after each obligatory prayer is Fidau for him.

No, that is not true

The Hadith says that upon the pen is raised after a person dies unless for 3 reasons

1, Any continuous charity established by the deceased. Eg planting of tree, borehole that serves people etc

2, Any beneficial knowledge impacted by the deceased that continues to benefit the living

3, Lastly, If the deceased has a righteous child that continues to the deceased in prayer.

NOETHNICITY:
No, that is not true

The Hadith says that upon the pen is raised after a person dies unless for 3 reasons

1, Any continuous charity established by the deceased. Eg planting of tree, borehole that serves people etc

2, Any beneficial knowledge impacted by the deceased that continues to benefit the living

3, Lastly, If the deceased has a righteous child that continues to the deceased in prayer.

Madridguy needs to read the other thread on Ganu si in front page if he is sincere!

This list is many!

1. Deeds for the Deceased: The deeds that benefit the deceased have been discussed in a separate post. It is essential to learn how to increase the rewards for deceased Muslim parents.

Here are the Highlights from https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/8248289/deeds-meet-dead
a. Ongoing Charity .e.g. a waqf or endowment.
b. A du'a made by a righteous son/daughter.
c. Beneficial knowledge which the dead left behind.
d. Other Charity done on behalf of the dead.
e. Fulfilling the vows of the dead if it does not contradict Islam.
f. Paying the debt of the dead. e.g. Ramadan fasts, money, etc.
g. Performing Hajj/Umrah on behalf of the dead.
h. Allotting a share of the ('Eid al-adha) Sacrifice to one's dead.

AbuTwins:


Madridguy needs to read the other thread on Ganu si in front page if he is sincere!

This list is many!

1. Deeds for the Deceased: The deeds that benefit the deceased have been discussed in a separate post. It is essential to learn how to increase the rewards for deceased Muslim parents.

Here are the Highlights from https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/8248289/deeds-meet-dead
a. Ongoing Charity .e.g. a waqf or endowment.
b. A du'a made by a righteous son/daughter.
c. Beneficial knowledge which the dead left behind.
d. Other Charity done on behalf of the dead.
e. Fulfilling the vows of the dead if it does not contradict Islam.
f. Paying the debt of the dead. e.g. Ramadan fasts, money, etc.
g. Performing Hajj/Umrah on behalf of the dead.
h. Allotting a share of the ('Eid al-adha) Sacrifice to one's dead.

100% correct

NOETHNICITY:
Bigotry and hate for Islam has blinded you and wiped out your intellect


This thread is only for Muslims and not for bigots

Islam is founded on bigotry and hate for other religions.

So, stuff your hypocrisy down your throat. Your muhamed told you to hate any other religion. He even told you to kill Jews and Christians.

Yet, you dare complain of bigotry and hate? How dare you?!

Has Islam given anything to the world other than bigotry and hate? When Muslims are in the majority in any country, the country cannot be at peace.

You show the world that you Muslims are hateful set of people and when people talk about the evils you do, you will start calling it hatred.

Hatred now has a meaning in Islam. Bunch of deceivers like Quran allah

rock003:


Islam is founded on bigotry and hate for other religions.

So, stuff your hypocrisy down your throat. Your muhamed told you to hate any other religion. He even told you to kill Jews and Christians.

Yet, you dare complain of bigotry and hate? How dare you?!

Has Islam given anything to the world other than bigotry and hate? When Muslims are in the majority in any country, the country cannot be at peace.

You show the world that you Muslims are hateful set of people and when people talk about the evils you do, you will start calling it hatred.

Hatred now has a meaning in Islam. Bunch of deceivers like Quran allah

So since Islam offers nothing, what then are you looking for here

Why getting involved in Islamic conversation that doesn’t benefit you?

Why not let us be?

I lived in the northern part of Nigeria for more than a decade, thruought those years,I didnt witness anything like firdaus prayer we always do here in the south,not even one time.
The muslim in the north bury their dead, visit the family individually to offer prayer and . nothing what we do here .

NOETHNICITY:
So since Islam offers nothing, what then are you looking for here

Why getting involved in Islamic conversation that doesn’t benefit you?

Why not let us be?

Because you people want to force your cuzzed religion and its curzzed Arab pagan laws on Yorubas.

If u don't force yourself on others, nobody will give a two-penny fuvck about u pagans.

madridguy:
Fidau prayer is never a bidia and doesn't stopped in Yoruba land alone. Make your findings very well and stop saying what Allah S.W.T didn't say in the holy Quran.

Thank you my brother, please tell us what Allah said in the quran and the teachings regarding Fidau.
Jazakallahu khairan

Lukgaf:
In many parts of Yoruba land, it is common to organize congregational prayers (Fidau) on specific days after someone’s death—3 days, 8 days, 40 days, or even anniversaries, depending on the age of the deceased.

However, as widespread as this practice is, it is nothing but bid’ah (an innovation), and Islam does not permit it.

Allah has perfected this religion, and there is no room for adding or modifying acts of worship. If a practice was good, the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and his companions would have done it. But there is no evidence that they ever gathered for special prayers on specific days after a person’s death.

When a matter is unclear, we should follow the guidance of scholars who rely on the Qur'an and Sunnah, not blindly follow cultural traditions.

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) strongly warned against innovations in Islam:

"Whoever introduces into this matter of ours (Islam) something that is not part of it, it will be rejected." (Sahih al-Bukhari and Muslim)

If Fidau was part of Islam, the Prophet and his companions would have done it. But instead, they taught us what actually benefits the dead.

What Truly Benefits the Deceased?

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said:

"When a person dies, his deeds come to an end except for three: continuous charity (Sadaqah Jariyah), beneficial knowledge, or a righteous child who prays for him." *
(Sahih Muslim)

Nowhere in this hadith is there mention of gathering people for a Fidau prayer. Instead, the best thing we can do for our deceased loved ones is:
1. Give Sadaqah Jariyah (continuous charity) on their behalf.
2. Spread beneficial knowledge in their name.
3. Make sincere dua for them as their children or loved ones.

Let’s be honest—many so-called Alfas exploit families through these gatherings. They turn Fidau into a money-making event, and perhaps that’s why a popular musician used the word "Ganu si". Families spend money on food, drinks, and unnecessary expenses, believing they are honoring the deceased, when in reality, they are following a practice with no basis in Islam.

Instead of organizing Fidau gatherings, let us:
- Pray privately and sincerely for the deceased.
- Encourage their family to engage in Sadaqah Jariyah.
- Avoid falling into the trap of cultural practices that contradict Islam.

May Allah guide us all to follow His true teachings and protect us from innovations in religion. Ameen.


Abu Afs Lukgaf

You must we were Yoruba before Islam came.


Since PM (PBUH) and his companions didn't use car, phone, public address system, why are Muslim using It now and we all know it's innovation

Fiscus105:



U guys just made this ur ,"Quran/Hadith" to stiff the adherents and making it problematic for both worshipers and non-islam, don't do this, dnt do that, if you dnt do this, where is the GRACE which GOD is known for?, ..... Have you ever thought that, if God doesn't want human not to be doing all instructions that human beings handed over to you in name of religion books ( Quran & Bible), but erroneously believed, it was an Angel. God can design humans in such way, we comply without much ado. Just like "AI" and Robots.

We made laws for humans and not the other way round.

Because God doesn't say something expressly in holy books, doesn't mean human beings shouldn't do it, PROVIDED it doesn't lead to sins

Can God expressly write everything we should do and not to do?

You are a Christian and that's why your POPE have the grace to bless gay and LGBTQ marriage in the name of useless grace.

In Islam, we do what the prophet SAW told us and avoid what he did not do this is to avoid different nonsense initiative, once one you accept one small nonsense another small one will come then a bigger one like LGBTQ

BID'HA IS BID'HA no matter how small and we don't want it

Say no to GANI SI in FIDAU.

Wa Iyakum.

The Allah told us never to forget our departed souls in our prayer.

Mubiola360:
Thank you my brother, please tell us what Allah said in the quran and the teachings regarding Fidau.
Jazakallahu khairan

So what is the number 3 again? And what is the meaning of Fidau?

NOETHNICITY:
No, that is not true

The Hadith says that upon the pen is raised after a person dies unless for 3 reasons

1, Any continuous charity established by the deceased. Eg planting of tree, borehole that serves people etc

2, Any beneficial knowledge impacted by the deceased that continues to benefit the living

3, Lastly, If the deceased has a righteous child that continues to the deceased in prayer.

Bidia as how? I asked you earlier, is the congregationally Janazah prayer also bid'ah?

Because when the prophet ed on there's no such for him..

AbuTwins:


Why do you like changing goal posts to accommodate your bid'ah?

I don't think I have make mentioned of any food. I still stand on fidau prayer alone.

77up:
What op was saying is actually right , from fidau prayer, ganusi follows. It is normal to pray for the dead but not to involve Amala and ewedu or akara.

What is bid'ah in the way they're doing it. The OP message stand on condemnation of Fidau prayer so I don't expect you to band A and oppose band B. Stand upright brother.

AbuTwins:


It is bid'ah if done the way your alfas do it!

madridguy:
Bidia as how? I asked you earlier, is the congregationally Janazah prayer also bid'ah?

Because when the prophet ed on there's no such for him..

This is shifting goal post technique!

Bro, you are a veteran here on nairaland!

Stay on the topic.

What is sunnah is clear! (Janazah bath and Janazah Salah on the dead! This is established in authentic Hadiths on how to go about it!)
What is bid'ah is clear! (3day, 7days, 40 days, yearly remembrance of the dead, eating at the burial funded by the deceased family, etc.)

madridguy:
I don't think I have make mentioned of any food. I still stand on fidau prayer alone.

What is Fidau prayer?

How is it done?

Show us your proofs?

abcommglobal:



You must we were Yoruba before Islam came.


Since PM (PBUH) and his companions didn't use car, phone, public address system, why are Muslim using It now and we all know it's innovation

There is a simple rule here. Everything, that is not an act of worship, is allowed until we find an evidence that prohibits it. For example, a Muslim can eat any food except prohibited ones like pork. Same goes for clothes etc.


Anything that is an act of worship is prohibited until we find an evidence that allows it. We pray 5 times a day because it is an act of worship and there is an evidence for it.


Firdaus prayer is performed as an act of worship, but there is no evidence for it as far as I know.

May Allah overlook our shortcomings and make us better muslims.