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Michael547:

Kindly quote the Bible verse that says that Jesus spirit died and that it was his soul that was alive and went to suffer in hell.

Jesus died twice on the cross. He first died spiritually before he died physically.

He died spiritually when God forsook him.

Isaiah 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

You certainly will not see a scripture which says that Jesus died spiritually but it is implied.

Spiritual death is separation from God.

Ken4Christ:


Jesus died twice on the cross. He first died spiritually before he died physically.

He died spiritually when God forsook him.

Isaiah 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

You certainly will not see a scripture which says that Jesus died spiritually but it is implied.

Spiritual death is separation from God.

So what kind of death did his spirit die, Physical or spiritual?

Where does the Bible teach that it was Jesus soul without the body and spirit that went to hell to suffer?

Michael547:

So what kind of death did his spirit die, Physical or spiritual?

Where does the Bible teach that it was Jesus soul without the body and spirit that went to hell to suffer?

Acts 2:27-31
27 Because thou wilt not leave my SOUL IN HELL, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.

29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. note

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that HIS SOUL WAS NOT LEFT IN HELL, neither his flesh did see corruption.

Ken4Christ:


Acts 2:27-31
27 Because thou wilt not leave my SOUL IN HELL, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.

29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. note

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that HIS SOUL WAS NOT LEFT IN HELL, neither his flesh did see corruption.

So what verse here says that christ soul suffered in hell without his body?


So what kind of death did his spirit die, Physical or spiritual?

Ken4Christ:


The sacrifice he made was the blood he shed on the cross.

Secondly, he went to hell to suffer the punishment you and me were supposed to suffer.

He rose again from the dead to prove that death has been defeated. And all those who believe in Him will also rise up from the dead.

Besides, he rose from the dead with a glorified body that is not sustained by blood.

This is all so much nonsensical gobbledegook.

You have no reason to believe any of this crap.

You can actually be a moral, decent human being without 'believing in' ANYTHING.

You have an in-built moral sense because you are a manifestation of God.

We know your pastor doesn't teach you this level.

Lukuluku69:


So, your Jesus was Left to "rotted for days"?

That's a new one ooo

Why was your criminal prophet abandoned for days before been buried? Is it Islamical to left your dead ones for more than a day before buried

So who will ban your occultist religion?

MaxInDHouse:


Sure!
It's that time you will know those who are truly faithful disciples of Christ when you are all scared to preach and teach as Jesus commanded because by that time all worship centers will be closed due to the ban and human governments will use the buildings for other purposes.

People are becoming stupider and stupider as their true Satanic nature is manifesting.

Is sacrifice not about offering?

wetin concern you say the thing sacrificed get up again?

And you no hear say dey roll stone block the door of the tomb so no be the type of burial wey you know wey dem dig ground bury the person, cover.

jazzman7711:
Why didn’t he just go to sleep for a couple of days instead of going through the whole “crucifixion” brouhaha?

Where is the “sacrificing his life for us” if he was out and about after 3 days?

Also how did he manage to climb out of his grave deep in the ground, or was that another “miracle”?

SMH.

Lukuluku69:
See sputum all over my mention!Answer the Op nahSomeone that came to die yet prayed against his Death? LolA suicide bomber get liver your puny man-god.

The cup was what Jesus Christ prayed against, not death!

MaxInDHouse:


Sure!
It's that time you will know those who are truly faithful disciples of Christ when you are all scared to preach and teach as Jesus commanded because by that time all worship centers will be closed due to the ban and human governments will use the buildings for other purposes.

See how you prove jws are atheists?

Ken4Christ:


The sacrifice he made was the blood he shed on the cross.

Secondly, he went to hell to suffer the punishment you and me were supposed to suffer.

He rose again from the dead to prove that death has been defeated. And all those who believe in Him will also rise up from the dead.

Besides, he rose from the dead with a glorified body that is not sustained by blood.

See jw lies. The bible expressly said He went to preach, you say He went to suffer.

jazzman7711:


This is all so much nonsensical gobbledegook.

You have no reason to believe any of this crap.

You can actually be a moral, decent human being without 'believing in' ANYTHING.

You have an in-built moral sense because you are a manifestation of God.

We know your pastor doesn't teach you this level.

Change of Post! He did not say anything about being moral.

And subsribiing to morality means that you believe in morality, so you are still believing in a thing, even if you are your own moral com and yourself is your own god.

Which clearly means that you did not need to raise this topic. except clearly you raised it to blaspheme and mock God (as the bible foretold that devils like you would do) thereby proving that you are not a decent human being but one who deserves to be punished by God! And God will surely surely punish you even worse.

Ken4Christ:


Where did he go after his death on the cross? Answer with proofs from the scripture.

Where is your proof from the bible that Jesus went to hell to suffer?

Dtruthspeaker:


See jw lies. The bible expressly said He went to preach, you say He went to suffer.

Jesus did not go to preach in Hell either. Hell is a place of unconsciousness as proven by bible versions below.

Michael547:

Jesus did not go to preach in Hell either. Hell is a place of unconsciousness as proven by bible versions below.

Was Lazarus and Jairus daughter not already in it when He Spoke, even from here on earth. and they heard His Voice from here and responded to Him?

So they are not conscious to us humans but they certainly can hear and respond to God wherever they might be.

Dtruthspeaker:


Was Lazarus and how Jairus daughter not already in it when He Spoke, even from here on earth. and they heard His Voice from here and responded to Him?

So they are not conscious to us humans but they certainly can hear and respond to God wherever they might be.

Where was Lazarus and jairus daughter when they heard Jesus voice?

Are you saying that Ecclesiastics 9:10 according to the Bible versions i posted is incorrect and contradictory to what Jesus said?

Does Ecclesiastics 9:10 tell us of a conscious part of man that survives death?

Ken4Christ:


We inherited the sin of Adam by birth. It's in the gene.

1st Corinthians 15:21-22
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

You inherited what? It's you that inherit something. I didn't, I don't give a shit whatever those quoted places in those book says.

Steep:
Hell is a place of separation from God. Anyone who do not want God, who reject God are the ones who are thrown in hell.

Is there any he'll worse than Nigeria and Tinubu?

RightChannel:

So who will ban your occultist religion?

This one doesn't even understand anything.

Who will ban all religions?

Dtruthspeaker:

See how you prove jws are atheists?

All religions will soon be banned so that only the faithful ones will be noticed globally as true disciples of Christ when no worship center is allowed to make noise claiming they are worshiping any god!

Michael547:

Where was Lazarus and jairus daughter when they heard Jesus voice?

Are you saying that Ecclesiastics 9:10 according to the Bible versions i posted is incorrect and contradictory to what Jesus said?

Does Ecclesiastics 9:10 tell us of a conscious part of man that survives death?

Did you not say sheol, hell, grave whatever the name is the place after what we call death?

Does common sense not tell you Ecclesiastics 9:10 is in reference to our human capability of trying to speak to the dead as though they were living like our neighbors who are still living? or the impossibility of our trying to take knowledge or give knowledge to them? not to talk of giving them work.

Everyone knows this but you are always never there to know hence why you ask stupid questions . i wonder which one would drop now.

Dtruthspeaker:


Did you not say sheol, hell, grave whatever the name is the place after what we call death?

Does common sense not tell you Ecclesiastics 9:10 is in reference to our human capability of trying to speak to the dead as though they were living like our neighbors who are still believe living? or the impossibility of our trying to take knowledge or give knowledge to them? not to talk of giving them work.

Everyone knows this but you are always never there to know hence why you ask stupid questions . i wonder which one would drop now.

Oga Ecclesiastics 9:10 is talking about the condition of hell. It is not merely talking about the inability of humans to talk to dead people.
Does Ecclesiastics 9:10 mention any activity that takes place in hell? If yes, what activity?

Catholic Translations

Douay-Rheims Bible
Whatsoever thy hand is able to do, do it
earnestly: for neither work, nor reason, nor
wisdom, nor knowledge shall be in hell,
whither thou art hastening

Michael547:

Oga Ecclesiastics 9:10 is talking about the condition of hell. It is not merely talking about the inability of humans to talk to dead people.
Does Ecclesiastics 9:10 mention any activity that takes place in hell? If yes, what activity?

Catholic Translations

Douay-Rheims Bible
Whatsoever thy hand is able to do, do it
earnestly: for neither work, nor reason, nor
wisdom, nor knowledge shall be in hell,
whither thou art hastening

Is it not the, humans living on the earth who work and talk and pursue knowledge and share knowledge?

Is it not humans who wish to speak to the dead and even sometimes we wish to collect debts they owed from them?

You don't have any valid thing to say, hence you can mad fully repeat your words till it blurs, its all in vain.

Dtruthspeaker:


Is it not the, humans living on the earth who work and talk and pursue knowledge and share knowledge?

Is it not humans who wish to speak to the dead and even sometimes we wish to collect debts they owed from them?

You don't have any valid thing to say, hence you can mad fully repeat your words till it blurs, its all in vain.

Oga what activities do dead people engage in in hell?
Name the activities and back it up with a Bible verse.

jazzman7711:


This is all so much nonsensical gobbledegook.

You have no reason to believe any of this crap.

You can actually be a moral, decent human being without 'believing in' ANYTHING.

You have an in-built moral sense because you are a manifestation of God.

We know your pastor doesn't teach you this level.

Your unbelief doesn't change the truth of God’s word. In addition, you will end up in hell. And it will be regrets upon regrets.

Michael547:

Oga what activities do dead people engage in in hell? Name the activities and back it up with a Bible verse.

The funny thing about him is calling everyone "MAD" when he can't make any sense of what he's saying.

He has used about three to four s back then responding to himself and praising himself but after realizing that everyone knew it's the same person he started calling everyone "MAD"

Dtruthspeaker:


See jw lies. The bible expressly said He went to preach, you say He went to suffer.

Yes, he preached after he defeated Satan who held him captive for a while.

Michael547:

Oga what activities do dead people engage in in hell?
Name the activities and back it up with a Bible verse.

Diid i not say you will ask a stupid question? Please waka.

Ken4Christ:


Yes, he preached after he defeated Satan who held him captive for a while.

Satan held God captive? Men jw has made you mad!

Dtruthspeaker:


Diid i not say you will ask a stupid question? Please waka.

🤣🤣🤣So you can't even name one activity that occurs in hell. Na wa oo...and you claim to know the bible.

Michael547:

🤣🤣🤣So you can't even name one activity that occurs in hell. Na wa oo...and you claim to know the bible.

And this is when you show that you are a very stupid and mad person.

Dtruthspeaker:

Satan held God captive? Men jw has made you mad!

Na wah o!

Even Ken who hate JW is also "MAD" by JW!

Ọmọ this "MAD" matter don worsen your case o!