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MaxInDHouse:


God promised that in Paradise there will be no cause for harm {Isaiah 11:9} throughout the Bible polygamy has always cause harm that's enough lesson to know that it's not God's will.

May be you don't know, so, let me bring it to your awareness.


You see, when the bible wants to give an analogy of the relationship between himself and his people Israel or the church, or the individual christian, he always use the example of a husbamd and wife.

You see this on many occations in the prophetic books, etc. (if you do not know this, then go and read your bible!)

In all of these cases, the representative of God is always the man, while the woman is always a representative of Israel/the church/you, the indicidual chriatian.

IF YOU HAVE EVEN IF IT IS ONE EXAMPLE FROM THE BIBLE, WHICH IS NOT GOD WAS PRESENTED AS THE WOMAN, AND THE CHURCH/ISRAEL/CHRISTIAN AS THE WOMAN, PLEASE POINT IT OUT, AND MENTION WHERE IS IT WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE.

I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO GIVE TWO, JUST 1 (ONE), OR HALF. IF YOU CAN FIND ONE, YOU CAN THEN BUY A DOG AND CALL IT MIDDLEDIMENSION!


IN FACT, THIS BIBLE REFERED TO THE CHURCH IN THE FEMININE TERM, THE BRIDE OF CHRIST!!!!

DO YOU THINK HE MADE A MISTAKE BY DOING THINGS THIS WAY? DO YOU THINK IT WAS A RANDOM CHOICE HE MADE TO HAVE CONSISTENTLY PRESENTED THE MAN AS THE IMAGE OF THE GOD AND THE WOMAN, THE CHURCH, ISRAEL OR THE INDIVIDUAL CHRISTIAN?

THE MORE FACINATING THING IS THE FACT THAT EVEN GOD HIMSELF IS POLYGAMOUS, SO TO SPEAK.

WHEN HE DIED FOR YOU, HE PAID YOUR BRIDE PRICE SO THAT YOU COULD BECOME HIS ''WIFE'', SO TO SPEAK.

THE BIBLE SAYS HE BOUGHT YOU WITH A PRICE! 1cor 6: 19-20.

TO FURTHER INDICATE TO YOU THAT THE SORT OF ''BUYING'' HE DID FOR YOU WHEN HE DIED ON THE CROSS, IS THE PAYING OF BRIDE PRICE YOU DO IN MARRIAGE, HE SAID LATER IN THE SAME VERSE: SO HONOUR AND GLORIFY THE LORD[b] WITH YOUR BODY![/b] ECHOING THE SAME SORT OF FIDELITY THAT SHOULD BE BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN!

IF THAT IS NOT ENOUGH, WHAT THEN WOULD YOU SAY ABOUT THE PART OF CORTINTHIANS THAT SAYS IF YOU UNITE YOUR BODY WITH A WOMAN, YOU BECOME ONE FLESH. 1COR 6:16

THAT EACH TIME THE BIBLE MENTIONS THE TWO WILL BECOME ONE FLESH, IT IS REFERING TO THE SAME KIND OF UNION BETWEEN A HUSBAND AND A WIFE WHEN THEY GET MARRIED.

TO SHOW YOU THAT ANYTIME A PERAON ACCEPTS JESUS AS HIS LORD AND GOD, HE IS NOW MARRIED TO GOD, THE BIBLE WENT FURTHER TO SAY IN VERSE 17 THAT HE WHO IS ED WITH THE LORD, IS ONE IN SPIRIT.

THE SAME KIND OF ''ONE'' YOU BECOME, WHEN YOU GET MARRIED TO YOUR WIFE, AS ALLUDE TO IN GENESIS, AND JESUS, IN MATTHEW, IS THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENS BETWEEN YOU AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD WHEN YOU ACCEPT HIM AS YOUR SAVIOUR.

SO, IT IS CLEAR THAT AS MANY THAT HAVE RECIEVED JESUS, THEY BECAME HIS BRIDE, HIS WIFE, AND HE, THEIR HUSBAND, AS THE BIBLE THE HAD SAID, THEY ARE NOW ONE WITH HIS SPIRIT!

THIS MEANS GOD IS POLYGAMOUS!

IT IS NOT LIKE THIS IS A NEW THING HE IS REVEALING IN THE NEW TESTAMENT; AFTERALL, HE HAD ALREADY SAID IT BEFORE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, THAT HE ''MARRIED THEM BOTH'' Ezekiel 23 vs 4 (Good News Bible)

He also told David with his own mouth; Nathan said: ''THIS IS WHAT THE LORD, THE GOD OF ISRAEL SAYS'' THESE ARE NOT MY WORDS, ARE THEY?

HOW COULD YOU DENY THAT WHAT NATHAN SAID, FOLLOWING THIS, WERE ACTUALLY THE WORDS OF YOUR GOD, JEHOVAH?

HOW ON EARTH IS THIS NOT AN INDICATION THAT POLYGAMY IS CHRISTIAN?

IS IT A VIRTUE ON YOUR OWN PART TO DENY THE OBVIOUS, THE WORD OF GOD? REMEBER WHAT HE SAID HIS WORD IS TO YOU....THAT IT IS LIKE A LAMP ONTO THY FEET (PSALMS); THAT IT IS LIKE A TWO EDGED SWORD REVEALING THE NATURE OF THINGS.(HEBREWS), INCLUDING THE FACT THAT POLYGAMY IS OF GOD AND BLESSED BY GOD!

IF ALL OF THAT WERE NOT ENOUGH, WHAT THEN WOULD YOU SAY ABOUT THE MENTION OF GIDEON WHO THE BIBKE SAYS HAS MANY WIVES, YET, HE IS A MAN WHO, LIKE DAVID, IS AFTER GOD'S OWN HEART. THE BIBLE SAYS: WITHOUT FAITH, IT IS IMPPOSIBLE TO PLEASE GOD; AMD GIDEON WAS MENTIONED AS ONE OF THE HEROES OF FAITH CEMENTING HIS IMAGE AS SOMEONE WHO PLEASED GOD, EVEN THOUGH HE HAD MANY WIVES.

MaxInDHouse:


That is what will make him see reasons after all it's not you so why are you so worried about how people are questioned regarding what they think about life?

IT IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE AND VIOLATES ALL MORAL CODES THAT YOU INSULT HIS MOTHER, APERSON WHO IS NOT EVEN INVOLVED IN THIS ISSUE

StillDtruth:


Told you everything you are going to say was said in the thread

Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!!
So Benbellarmor, you are wrong and are promoting sin.

Let me ask you, will God Contradict himself? using the same Book of Deuteronomy 17 start from verse 14-17 God has a reason to Instruct that The king should not Multiply wives for himself and must not take many animals

Same book of Deuteronomy in further verses 20 God Gave them permission to take wives from the captured spoils of war even animals

Deuteronomy 20:14
But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.

Further in the same book of Deuteronomy specifically 21:10

Deuteronomy 21:10 When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, 11 if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife
Now connect above verse with Exodus 21:10
Exodus 21:10....If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish the food, clothing, or marital rights of the first wife

Further to even burst your bubble;
Judges 5:30 specifically confirms Men taking even two women from spoils of war because the law permitted it:
Judges 5:30
Are they not finding and dividing the spoils: a woman or two for each man, colorful garments as plunder for Sisera

That the Instruction was handed to Moses, dont try to paint it as if the isrealites were already living like that, Evidence below actually revealed when the Law was given to Moses to deliver to the isrealites how the should conduct theirseves, in the preceeding verse

Deuteronomy 19:3
3 while Moses went up to God. The Lord called to him out of the mountain, saying, “Thus you shall say to the house of Jacob, and tell the people of Israel: 4 You yourselves have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles' wings and brought you to myself. 5 Now therefore, if you will indeed obey my voice and keep my covenant, you shall be my treasured possession among all peoples, for all the earth is mine

Kobojunkie:
Is Moses Jesus Christ?

Jesus allude his teaching on Marriage to the Mosaic Law which also frown at Divorce, so Jesus Advocated for ''Don't send away your wife and Marry a new one'', but rather keep the first wife if she so desire, while the Mosaic Law says ''Keep your first Wife, if you want another wife, give the first wife all her marital Dues''....But today many like you are forcing Divorce on Marriage before a man can Marry another wife, he rather keep both.

Benbellamor:
Jesus allude his teaching on Marriage to the Mosaic Law which also frown at Divorce, so Jesus Advocated for Dont send away your wife and Marry a new one, but rather keep her, while the Mosaic Law says Keep your first Wife if you want another, give the first all her Dues....But today many like you are forcing Divorce on Marriage before a man can Marry another wife, he rather keep both.

Jesus Christ also said He did not come to change or abolish any of the teachings of Moses. So, again, is Moses Jesus Christ, or is Jesus Christ Moses?

Try to reason your claims there. If Jesus Christ changed what Moses had previously decreed then it means Jesus Christ lied and you an eejit for quoting Him. If you wish to believe that Moses may have made a mistake when he allowed divorce in the Law that He gave to the Israelites, then it means Moses was not speaking for God and you are foolish for quoting Moses. So, what you suggest here is contradictory — fallacious — and there is a big problem there, don't you see?

Also, this is all aside from the major issue which is that Moses gave his Law specifically to the descendants of Jacob — not to any other people on earth, while Jesus Christ also said He was sent only to the Lost sheep of Jacob— you literally have to be of the bloodline of Jacob to qualify for those Laws you quote. Why are you, a non-descendant of Jacob, insisting on Laws that have nothing to do with you? Are you part of that particular bloodline?

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ also said He did not come to change or abolish any of the teachings of Moses. So, again, is Moses Jesus Christ, or is Jesus Christ Moses?

Try to reason your claims there. If Jesus Christ changed what Moses had previously decreed then it means Jesus Christ lied and you an eejit for quoting Him. If you wish to believe that Moses may have made a mistake when he allowed divorce in the Law that He gave to the Israelites, then it means Moses was not speaking for God and you are foolish for quoting Moses. So, what you suggest here is contradictory — fallacious — and there is a big problem there, don't you see?

sorry the Topic is not about Jesus, its about ...The Law Given to Moses to the Isrealites about Taking Another wife.....can you kindly keep to the Topic and not try to divert from the Topic. you can create a Topic for Jesus opinion about Marriage...so lets keep to this...thanks

Benbellamor:
■ sorry the Topic is not about Jesus, its about ...The Law Given to Moses to the Isrealites about Taking Another wife.....can you kindly keep to the Topic and not try to divert from the Topic. you can create a Topic for Jesus opinion about Marriage...so lets keep to this...thanks

Pay attention to your own Post, please. You quoted Jesus Christ to suggest that somehow divorce was a problem in the Law of Moses — Moses gave the law of divorce to the Israelites (descendants of Jacob). Jesus Christ never in fact said divorce was a problem in the Law of Moses. So, why the contradictory belief that you hold to?

Second, you pretend you can apply the Law of Moses to life, but that Law was specifically given only to the children of Israel — the bloodline of Jacob — as a Constitution in the Land of Canaan. (The Law does not even allow Israelites to marry foreigners from any other group aside from their line.) Wetin or how that take extend to you, a Nigerian living in Nigeria?

Is it that you believe that YHWH who swore by His name that HIs only inheritance in the land of men was a liar? Is it that you believe that Moses was a deluded slowpoke who did not know what he was saying even though it was through him that the intention of His God was revealed?

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ also said He did not come to change or abolish any of the teachings of Moses. So, again, is Moses Jesus Christ, or is Jesus Christ Moses?

Try to reason your claims there. If Jesus Christ changed what Moses had previously decreed then it means Jesus Christ lied and you an eejit for quoting Him. If you wish to believe that Moses may have made a mistake when he allowed divorce in the Law that He gave to the Israelites, then it means Moses was not speaking for God and you are foolish for quoting Moses. So, what you suggest here is contradictory — fallacious — and there is a big problem there, don't you see?

ordinarily I dont give attention to im.becile like you who are raised uncultured by a single entitled mother kicked out by a no nonsense husband can't Laugh here, but I will surely adress you so that objective readers can read for themselves. ''I did Not believe that Moses made a mistake in the Law that he gave to Isreal because He was Authorised, it was given to him ...dictated to him ...and so Moses was Just a vendor....I cant help your Dull comprehension issues...

Benbellamor:
ordinarily I dont give attention to im.becile like you who are raised uncultured by a single entitled mother kicked out by a no nonsense husband can't Laugh here, but I will surely adress you so that objective readers can read for themselves. ''I did Not believe that Moses made a mistake in the Law that he gave to Isreal because He was Authorised, it was given to him ...dictated to him ...and so Moses was Just a vendor....I cant help your Dull comprehension issues...

You religious folks are so incapable of critically processing what you believe.

You came on here quoting Moses, an Israelite—born of the bloodline of Jacob— who gave a Law specifically only to those descended from the same bloodline as he was — the bloodline of Jacob. He literally declared over and over in the 5 books that He wrote that the Law in question applied only as far as the Israelites in the Land of Canaan which YHWH promised to them. (YHWH even called Himself God of Israel— and not of any other people of Nation.) Yet, here you are insisting that I am the imbe_cile for pointing this obvious fact which has been in existence for thousands of years to you, and revealing how your claim to that Law makes absolutely no sense!!

Religion has indeed done a colossal scam on the minds of Nigerians; may be too late for many of you actually.

Kobojunkie:
Pay attention to your own Post, please. You quoted Jesus Christ to suggest that somehow divorce was a problem in the Law of Moses

again you need to calm down from your delusion, let me answer you......My Main point About a Valid Law that enables one to have a second wife under Mosaic's Law given to him by God. I never Mentioned that Divorce was a problem....Let me help your Ignorance by now adding a portion of the phrase that actually led to the Bible verse that I quoted about Divorce....Jesus only said that Divorce was allowed because of the stubborness of the Jews, But my Topic is solely Based on what preceeds the issue of Divorce, which is not even a Topic here because Exodus 21:10 ...hints at giving all rights that the first wife deserves to her, then you are free to Marry a second wife

Benbellamor:
■ again you need to calm down from your delusion, let me answer you......My Main About a Vlalid Law that enables one to have a second wife under Mosaic's Law given to him by God. I never Mentioned that Divorce was a problem....Let me help your Ignorance by now adding a portion of the phrase that actually led to the Bible verse that I quoted about Divorce....Jesus only said that Divorce was allowed because of the stubborness of the Jews, But my Topic is solely Based on what preceeds the issue of Divorce, which is not even a Topic here because Exodus 21:10 ...hints at giving all rights that the first wife deserves to her, then you are free to Marry a second wife

Nonsense!

A Nigerian man arguing that the Constitution of a foreign Nation— Moses and His fellow Israelites are of a foreign bloodline and a foreign land — that no longer exists be enforced on his life and the lives of other Nigerians. (The current Nation of Israel adopted a new Constitution, different from that given by Moses, for good reason — the Nation that exists today is not the same Nation that Moses founded, even though they hang on to the same name.) No be brain-damage dem dey call that kain reasoning?

Kobojunkie:
You religious folks are so incapable of critically processing what you believe.

You came on here quoting Moses, an Israelite—born of the bloodline of Jacob— who gave a Law specifically only to those descended from the same bloodline as he was — the bloodline of Jacob. He literally declared over and over in the 5 books that He wrote that the Law in question applied only as far as the Israelites in the Land of Canaan which YHWH promised to them. (YHWH even called Himself God of Israel— and not of any other people of Nation.) Yet, here you are insisting that I am the imbe_cile for pointing this obvious fact which has been in existence for thousands of years to you, and revealing how your claim to that Law makes absolutely no sense!!

Religion has indeed done a colossal scam on the minds of Nigerians; may be too late for many of you actually.

why are you sounding civil here? me I think say you baad gaan ni o....you now running out of Gas....abi.....before Jesus there was Moses ok

Benbellamor:
why are you sounding civil here? me I think say you baad gaan ni o....you now running out of Gas....abi.....before Jesus there was Moses ok

Are you related to Moses that you would quote Moses though? Why are you people so blind that you can't see or grasp what has been right in front of the world for thousands of years?

Kobojunkie:
Nonsense!

A Nigerian man arguing that the Constitution of a foreign Nation— Moses and His fellow Israelites are of a foreign bloodline and a foreign land — that no longer exists be enforced on his life and the lives of other Nigerians. (The current Nation of Israel adopted a new Constitution, different from that given by Moses, for good reason — the Nation that exists today is not the same Nation that Moses founded, even though they hang on to the same name.) No be brain-damage dem dey call that kain reasoning?

...I dont Know that you are so Dumb Like This ....Read what Jesus Himself said about Moses

John 5:46
46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me
. 47 But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?"

Kobojunkie:
Are you related to Moses that you would quote Moses though? Why are you people so blind that you can't see or grasp what has been right in front of the world for thousands of years?

obviosly you got Nothing to offer here, e koshi soun jare..... when you are ready let me know, yawn...NEEEEEEEEEEXT

Benbellamor:
...I dont Know that you are so Dumb Like This ....Read what Jesus Himself said about Moses
John 5:46
46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me
. 47 But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?"

🤣🤣 🤣🤣 🤣🤣 🤣🤣 🤣🤣 Now he runs back to quoting Jesus Christ he claimed this isn't about. 🤣🤣 🤣🤣 🤣🤣 🤣🤣 🤣🤣

►Did you also not read where that same Jesus Christ is said to have declared that He was not sent to the dogs but only to the Lost sheep of Israel — the bloodline of Jacob - Matthew 15 vs 20 - 28?
►Did you not read where the very same Jesus Christ warned His followers not to give that which is Holy — the Law — to the dogs - Matthew 7 vs 6?
► Is it, not the same Jesus Christ who said that it is the same world that Moses raised a bronze snake to in the desert— the bloodline of Jacob — that He too will be raised up to - John 3 vs 14 - 18?

Stop fooling yourself! The only one to blame for your refusal to engage your brain critically is yourself. Stop deceiving yourself!

Benbellamor:
obviosly you got Nothing to offer here, e koshi soun jare..... when you are ready let me know, yawn...NEEEEEEEEEEXT

I am used to your kind. You pretend you believe what is written but when confronted with the facts as in fact presented in the book— the context of the entire book is Israel and Israelites for Pete's sake —, you resort to taking the charge elsewhere. Religion is a bitch! 😂😂😂😂😂

EXODUS 20:10-11

If he takes another wife, he must not reduce the food, clothing, or marital rights of his first wife. 11 If, however, he does not provide her with these three things, she is free to go without monetary payment[b]

MaxInDHouse:

Because that's the only way for PEACE to reign in the family circle, there was no single family in the Bible that enjoyed peace all through when polygamy is involved.

I TAKE IT YOU HONESTLY DON'T KNOW THAT'S WHY YOU SAID WHAT I HAVE QUOTED HERE, WHICH IS MANIFESTLY IGNIRANT, BY THE WAY.

SO, LETS ''REASON FROM THE SCRIPTURES'', SHALL WE, AS YOU HAVE IN THE TITLE OF ONE OF YOUR PUBLICATIONS.

PLEASE OPEN YOUR BIBLE, THE NWT OR ANY VERSION AT ALL ON EARTH, AND SHOW TO ME AND EVERY ONE HERE THAT THE 'PROBLEMS' IN THE POLYAMOUS HONES IN THE BIBLE WAS DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY WERE POLYGAMOUS.

OF COURSE, THE BIBLE HAS TO MENTION THAT IT IS BECAUSE THEY WERE A POLYGAMOUS HOME THAT THEY HAD THE ISSUE THEY HAD! OR YOU DON'T AGREE?

IF IT DOES NOT MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THEY HAD THE ISSUES THEY HAD BECAUSE THE FATHER HAD MORE THAN ONE WIFE, SHOULD THE ISSUES IN THE MONOGAMOUS HOMES IN THE BIBLE BE BLAMED ON THE FACT THAT THEY WERE A MONOGAMY TOO?

OH, YOU DON'T KNOW MONOGAMIES IN THE BIBLE HAD TERRIBLE ISSUES?

WELL, LET ME SHOW YOU!!!!!

WE START WITH THE FIRST FAMILY IN THE BIBLE:

ADAM AND EVE WHO GAVE BIRTH TO CAIN AND ABEL.

THE LEVEL OF ANIMOUSITY BETWEEN THEM REACHED A SCARY HEIGHT THAT ONE KILLED THE OTHER! AND WHEN HE WAS ASKED, HE DID NOT FEEL REMORSEFUL, HE SAID: I'M I MY BROTHER'S KEEPER''?

SOMEONE SAYS ONLY THIS ONE?

WELL, LET ME SHOW YOU MORE!

ISAAC AND RABEKAH WHO GAVE BIRTH TO ESSAU AND JACOB

THAT THEY WERE NOT JUST A MONOGAMY, BUT THEY WERE ALSO TWINS!!!!!

BUT RIGHT FROM THE WOMB, WE ALL KNOW THE SORT OF STRIFE AND STRUGGLE THAT HAPPENED BETWEEN THEM.

WHEN THEY WERE BORN, THE BIBLE SAYS: ESSAU WAS LOVED BY THE FATHER, WHIKE JACOB, BY HIS MOTHER. #FAVAOURITSM, A THING PEOPLE THINK IS OCCATIONED BY POLYGAMY!

NOW, YOU ARE GETTING SHOCKED TO YOUR BONE MARROW!!!!

REBEKAH WAS SO PRO JACOB OVER HER OTHER SON THAT WHE JACOB EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT WHAT ISAAC MIGHT DO SHOULD HE FIND OUT, SHE SAID, LET WHATEVER CURSE FALL ON ME INSTEAD!

WHEN ESSAU REALIZED WHAT JACOB HAD DONE, THE BIBLE SAYS: HE CRIED BITTERLY...

IN VERSE 41 OF GEN 27, IT SAYS IN YOUR JW NWT, THAT ESSAU BEGAN TO NURSE A GRUDGE AGAINST JACOB...

HE THEN SAID ''I WILL KILL MY BROTHER, JACOB.''

ANYONE WHO INSISTS THAT THE ISSUE WHICH YOU SAW IN POLYGAMY, I AM SURE WHEN THEY SAY THIS, THEY ARE REFERING TO JOSEPH AND HIS BROTHERS EVEN THOUGH WHATEVER HAPPENED BETWEEN THEM HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH POLYGAMY AS I AM GOING TO SHOW IN A BIT; BUT ANYONE WHO INSISTS THAT WHAT YOU SOMETIMES SEE IN POLYGAMY IS DUE TO POLYGAMY ITSELF, I AM GOING TO ASK THAT ARE THESE MURDER AND STRIFE IN MONOGAMIES, DUE TO MONOGAMY?

CAN WE NOW SAY THAT MONOGAMY IS WHAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENED IN THESE HOMES?

TO MAKE SUCH A BOLD STATEMENT, ONE HAS TO SHOW THAT INDEED, MONOGAMY CAUSED THOSE ISSUES; FAILURE TO DO THAT, THEN WE CAN QUESTION THE SINCERITY AND TRUTHFULNESS OF THE ONE WHO MAKES SUCH A STATEMENT.

IN THE SAME WAY TOO, THE ONE WHO LOOKS AT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE VARIOUS POLYGAMIES IN THE BIBLE AND THEN BLAME IT ON POLYGAMY AS A HOLY MARITAL INSTITUTION SET UP BY GOD AND SANCTIFIED BY HIS SPIRIT, HAS THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO SHOW BEYOND REASONABLE AND SCRIPTURAL DOUBT THAT THE ISSUES ARE INDEED DUE TO POLYGAMY.

FAILURE TO DO THAT, THEN WE CAN LEGITIMATELY QUESTION NOT JUST THE TRUTHFULLNESS, BUT ALSO THE SINCERITY AND FAIRENESS OF THE ONE WHO MAKES SUCH A CLAIM.

AFTERALL, THE BIBLE SAYS: YOU SHALL BE HOLY UNTO ME, AS I THE LORD I'M HOLY. IN OTHER WORDS, BE LIKE ME! AND JUST AS HE IS FAIR (ACTS 10), YOU, WHO ARE CALLED BY HIS NAME, SHOULD ALSO BE FAIR!

BUT AS FOR YOUR CLAIM THAT THERE WAS NO SINGLE POLYGAMOUS FAMILY IN THE BIBLE THAT HAD PEACE, WELL, LETS EXAMINE.

IF WE EXAMINE THE SCRIPTURES, WE WILL FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT YOUR CLAIM IS TRUE, RIGHT?

IF YOU THINK WE WON'T FIND WHEN WE OPEN THE SCRIPTURES, WELL, LET ME KNOW AND ALSO SUGGEST ANOTHER METHOD BY WHICH WE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT SUCH AN EXAMPLE OF A PEACEFUL POLYGAMOUS HOME EXIST IN THE BIBLE.

THE FIRST ONE, LAMECH IN GENESIS

THE BIBLE SAYS HE WAS MARRIED TWO WIVES,
ONE WAS ADAH, AND THE OTHER, ZILAH (GEN 4:19)

THE BIBLE THEN MENTIONED THEIR CHILDREN AND SAID THEY WERE SO ACCOMPLISHED, THE BECAME A MAESTRO OF MUSIC; THE OTHER, BUILDING; AND LAST ONE, BLACKSMITH MUCH LIKE NEWTON WAS SO ACCOMPLISHED HE IS THE FATHER OF CLASSICAL PHYSICS, AND SIGMUND FREUD, THE FATHER OF PSYCOANALYSIS.

ACCORDING TO PSYCOLOGISTS, A STABLE HOME IS NEEDED FOR THESE SORT OF ACCOMPLISHMENT AMONG THE CHILDREN OF A HOME!

ACCORDING TO THIS JW ARTICLE TITTLED THE KEYS TO A GOOD EDUCATION, IT SAYS UNDER THE HEADING ''PARENT'S , AN IMPORTANT KEY'', IT SAYS AND I QUOTE: ''STRONG FAMILIES GIVE KIDS AN EDGE IN SCHOOL''. https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101995923

NO WONDER, JABAL, JUBAL AND TUBALCAIN ALL EXCELLED IN THEIR FIELDS, BECAUSE THEY HAD GOOD UPBRINGING, CONTRARY TO YOUR CLAIM THAT NO SINGLE POLYGAMOUS FAMILY IN THE BIBLE EVER EXPERIENCED PEACE!

I AM NOT MANIPULATING YOU HERE, THESE ARE RHE WORDS FROM THE BIBLE! WHOEVER REJECTS THIS WITHOUT A SUPERIOR POINT, REJECTS THE LORD, AND WAS NEVER BORN AGAIN IN THE FIRST PLACE AND CHRIST'S WORDS ARE OF ZERO MEANING TO HIM!!!

WHAT ABOUT THE ISSUES JACOB HAD AMONG HIS CHILDREN? WAS IT DUE TO THE FACT THEY WERE BORN OF THE DIFFERENT MOTHERS?

IF THAT WERE TRUE, WE WILL SURELY FIND OUT WHEN WE LOOK INTO THE BIBLE, CORRECT?

CAN WE NOW TURN TO THE PAGES OF THE BIBLE TO FIND FOR OURSELVES?

JOSEPH'S BROTHERS WERE JEALOUS OF HIM, YES! BUT WAS IT BECAUSE HE WAS BORN OF A DIFFERENT MOTHER?

GEN 37 VS 4, IT SAYS: JACOB LOVED JOSEPH MORE THAN ALL THE OTHERS AND MADE A ROBE FOR HIM

IT SAYS: WHEN HIS BROTHER REALIZED THIS, THEY HATED HIM MORE AND WOULD NOT SPEAK A WORD TO HIM!

AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT THIS SAME FAVOURITISM WAS SHOWN BY BOTH ISAAC AND RABECCAH WHO HAD A MONOGAMOUS HOME.

SO, NO ONE CAN SAY THAT POLYGAMY ENGENDERS FAVOURITISM. AND IF ANYONE STILL WANTS TO STUBBORNLY INSIST SO, WELL, THEN I HAVE TO POINT OUT THAT JACOB FAVOURS JOSEPH EVEN OVER BENJAMIN, WHO WAS BORN OF RACHEL, JOSEPH'S MOTHER.

ALSO, WHILE ALL THE OTHER BROTHERS DID NOT LIKE JOSEPH, REUBEN WAS SYPATHETIC TOWARDS HIM.

WHEN THEY DECIDED TO SELL HIM, THE BIBLE SAYS THEY... (TO BE CONTINUED).

MiddleDimension:

May be you don't know, so, let me bring it to your awareness.

What exactly is your point?
I detests too much words that's empty please go straight to your point.

MiddleDimension:

IT IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE AND VIOLATES ALL MORAL CODES THAT YOU INSULT HIS MOTHER, APERSON WHO IS NOT EVEN INVOLVED IN THIS ISSUE

Where did i insult his mother nah?

Please read with understanding and stop going about pestering me.

MiddleDimension:

OF COURSE, THE BIBLE HAS TO MENTION THAT IT IS BECAUSE THEY WERE A POLYGAMOUS HOME THAT THEY HAD THE ISSUE THEY HAD! OR YOU DON'T AGREE?

In the Bible God only make certain things clear when His worshipers fails to learn from their past mistakes but when someone knows what is right to do in most cases God will tell them to learn from the one who does things rightly.

God has used the stories in the Bible to teach all faithful people that polygamy is crime against humanity.

He gave Adam (the first man) only one wife he was the richest man ever so if God gave him just one wife that's the standard God established whoever goes against that is creating a problem which is to be resolved with time.

Lamech was the first polygamist in the history of mankind {Genesis 4:19} and from his example he was a violent man! Genesis 4:23-24

I repeat there is no single polygamist in Bible times that enjoyed peace and it's all as a result of polygamy.

MaxInDHouse:


In the Bible God only make certain things clear when His worshipers fails to learn from their past mistakes but when someone knows what is right to do in most cases God will tell them to learn from the one who does things rightly.

God has used the stories in the Bible to teach all faithful people that polygamy is crime against humanity.

He gave Adam (the first man) only one wife he was the richest man ever so if God gave him just one wife that's the standard God established whoever goes against that is creating a problem which is to be resolved with time.

Lamech was the first polygamist in the history of mankind {Genesis 4:19} and from his example he was a violent man! Genesis 4:23-24

I repeat there is no single polygamist in Bible times that enjoyed peace and it's all as a result of polygamy.

@the bolded part.

What on earth is the meaning of what you just wrote?

Because he killed a man, therefore, he is ''violent'' and not someone if character?

Abraham WAS VIOLENT! HE WAGGED A WAR!!!!

MOSES WAS ''VIOLENT'', HE WAGGED MANY WARS!!!

JOSHUA, GIDEON, ONE OF YOUR FATHERS IN FAITH; EVEN JESUS, WAS ''VIOLENT'', HE SCATTERED PEOPLE'S CHAIRS AND EVEN ONISHED HIS FOLLOWERS TO GO SELL THEIR CLOTHES AND BUY A GUN SO THEY CAN MAKE ANYONE WHO bleeps AROUND, FIND OUT!!!

So what? they are not men if God?

Melchizedek spoke of Abraham, one of those who wagged some of the most bloody wars in the bible, as quote: ''OF THE MOST HIGH GOD'' Gen 14:19.

Jesus, the one who onished you to buy a weapon and fight, the one who VIOLENTLY TURNED PEOPLE'A TABLE AND BEAT THEM FROM THE TEMPLE, IS SAID TO BE ''A MAN LIKE US IN ALL THINGS BUT SIN'', IN THE CATHOLIC EUCHARISTIC PRAYER.

AND ITS NOT LIKE THE BIBLE MENTIONED THE PART WHERE HE SAID HE KILLED A MAN SO AS TO TELL YOU

INFACT, HOW UNCONNECTED WHAT HE SAID IS TO THE CONTEXT OF THE AGE, ONLY SHOWS THAT IT IS ONE OF THOSE PARTS OF THE BIBLE WHISE MEANING AND PURPOSE IS STILL YET TO BE IDENTIFIED.

BECAUSE CONTEXT WAS THE GENEOLOGY OF ADAM DOWN TO HIM, LAMECH; SO WHAT BRINGS A POEM AND MURDER INTO THE CONVERSATION?

BUT THIS IS NOT NEW ANYWAY, BECAUSE EXAMPLES OF THIS ABOUND IN THE BIBLE, PARTICULALRLY IN THE PROPHETIC BOOKS OFTHE OLD TESTAMENT.

ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS HOW THAT PART IS PRESENTED.

HERE IT IS FROM THE NIV:

23 Lamech said to his wives,

“Adah and Zillah, listen to me;
wives of Lamech, hear my words.
I have killed a man for wounding me,
a young man for injuring me.
24 If Cain is avenged seven times,
then Lamech seventy-seven times.”

IT IS ACTUALL PRESENTED AS A POEM. JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE RHYMING PATTERN. HERE IT IS AGAIN WITH THE RHYMING PATTERN:

23 Lamech said to his wives,

“Adah and Zillah, listen to me; (a)
wives of Lamech, hear my words. (b)
I have killed a man for wounding me, (a)
a young man for injuring me. (a)
24 If Cain is avenged seven times, (c)
then Lamech seventy-seven times.” (c)

YOUR JW BIBLE, NWT, IS EVEN MORE CLEAR ON WHAT THAT PART IS, A POEM:

IN VERSE 23, IT SAYS: ''AND LAMECH COMPOSED THESE WORDS...''

IF IT WAS NOT (to be continued)

MiddleDimension:

Because he killed a man.

Obviously you don't believe the Bible but if you think you do please explain what David himself penned down here:

Jehovah examines the righteous one as well as the wicked one; He hates anyone who loves violence. Psalms 11:5

MaxInDHouse:


God promised that in Paradise there will be no cause for harm {Isaiah 11:9} throughout the Bible polygamy has always cause harm that's enough lesson to know that it's not God's will.

So you agree Jehovah gave David wives to harm him since polygamy is harmful?

Jehovah made law for polygamy though he knew it was harmful!

Jehovah didn't caution anyone despite many Prophets and righteous men marrying more than one!

MaxInDHouse:


That is what will make him see reasons after all it's not you so why are you so worried about how people are questioned regarding what they think about life?

Don't worry then! When he refers to your mum we'll be hear to continue the discussion!

AntiChristian:

So you agree Jehovah gave David wives to harm him since polygamy is harmful?

Jehovah made law for polygamy though he knew it was harmful!

Jehovah didn't caution anyone despite many Prophets and righteous men marrying more than one!

David lived before the time Christ walked the earth so Jehovah allowed all of them to please themselves with whatever they want as long as the Christ is yet to come but after the Christ has come whoever fails to adhere to he wise counsel from the Christ is not worthy of everlasting life no matter who such person is he is doomed!

AntiChristian:

Don't worry then! When he refers to your mum we'll be hear to continue the discussion!

My own father was pestered by his family to marry another wife but he insisted that there's no reason for him to break the heart of his dear wife.
He wasn't a Christian he's another common religionist like most people but from what he said i learned a lot.

So if the guy said polygamy is OK to him then he should be ready to welcome the idea when his father chooses to marry another woman to make a rival for his own mother {Leviticus 18:18} and if the reason he will give for a man to get a rival for his wife is trouble making by the first wife then it's not a crime to ask him if his father is to go for polygamy due to the troubles his own mother is giving his father.

The problem with shallow minded ones like you is failure to think deeply on serious issues!

MaxInDHouse:


My own father was pestered by his family to marry another wife but he insisted that there's no reason for him to break the heart of his dear wife.
He wasn't a Christian he's another common religionist like most people but from what he said i learned a lot.

So if the guy said polygamy is OK to him then he should be ready to welcome the idea when his father chooses to marry another woman to make a rival for his own mother {Leviticus 18:18} and if the reason he will give for a man to get a rival for his wife is trouble making by the first wife then it's not a crime to ask him if his father is to go for polygamy due to the troubles his own mother is giving his father.

The problem with shallow minded ones like you is failure to think deeply on serious issues!

Okay, I'll be patient!

MaxInDHouse:


David lived before the time Christ walked the earth so Jehovah allowed all of them to please themselves with whatever they want as long as the Christ is yet to come but after the Christ has come whoever fails to adhere to he wise counsel from the Christ is not worthy of everlasting life no matter who such person is he is doomed!

So Jehovah gave them a different syllabus and upgraded the syllabus when Jesus came?

So where exactly did Christ talked about marriage and polygamy (not divorce)?

AntiChristian:

Okay, I'll be patient!

Ọmọ this is not about your Islam where you just jump into insults when you're asked to think deeply on matters.

Benbellamor:
why not? we can agree to where the second wife will stay....A Man's happiness should not be deprived expecially when the first wife is becoming problematic....due to the influences of the Modern women on the Traditional women...yes I will agree

That is the fact that will silence him so if he wants to insult me or my mother no matter what he says i'm not bothered because if he truly loves his mother be can never ever accept a rival for her.

I'm also waiting for him to refute what i said then i will ask him if he has the liver to present what we are discussing here before his dear mother!

AntiChristian:

So Jehovah gave them a different syllabus and upgraded the syllabus when Jesus came?

So where exactly did Christ talked about marriage and polygamy (not divorce)?

The laws God gave the Israelites was to guide them until Christ comes {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} so they will continue reading it to help them in keeping the code until the Messiah comes who will write the laws that quantify adherents for everlasting life in their hearts {Jeremiah 31:33-34} this means it will no longer be laws where adherents will have to stone defaulters but each will think deeply on what could prevent him or her from gaining the approval of the Christ who will judge all things! 2Timothy 4:1

According to Jesus i must love my neighbor as myself {Mark 12:31} so if i marry Dupe while we are both youths then decide to marry another woman to be her rival do i truly love my wife (who is my closest neighbor) as myself? Malachi 2:14

Guy abeg this is not Islam where you don't even know what you people are doing {John 4:22} rather this is CHRISTIANITY the highway to HOLINESS! Isaiah 35:8 compare to Matthew 7:13-14