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XAUBulls: 12:06pm On Sep 07, 2023
raskymonojendor:
Very sound analysis. Main PDP was and is still the real opposition.

Like a spell, NNPP, LP, and the G5 made a mess of the last election. They made the path smooth for APC to emerge victorious.
Indeed. President Bola Tinubu's aura must be very strong to have led to that party's implosion into four factions.... grin
pquaver(m): 12:41pm On Sep 07, 2023
Kukutenla:

What do you mean by this nonsense?
What bad character are you talking about?
Before 2015, the most abusive people on the Internet were the ACN/C people. So all this gsslighting of a tribe needs to stop. It's politics. Even yesterday, the VP who called a sitting VP ice cream seller and Obi "giringori" threw jabs at an elder like Atiku. I didn't see you label Kanuri as having bad character.
If you now it's the turn of igbo, why is a Yoruba on the seat?
Stop the self delusion. If i wasn't igbo i for chop your bobo @ the bolded. Before 2015 this hate has been building and being rd on.. Ndi yoruba this Ndi Awusa that.. The message ed to the younger ones has not also been about cohabitation with other Nigerians tribes and finally what u see is the result.. So dont axt like u can deceive everyone.. My only saving probably would be that i spent 6 years of part of my formative years in the west (kings college lagos) and if u know that was a unity school where i lived with all tribes from Nigeria, made friends and got to learn what i hear when i go for holidays where not true. I had best friends from the not and the southwest, from south south and also my traditional buddies back home, so i was in a position to learn to see people from individual perspective and not tribe.. Most of we igbo are now going with mob and herd mentality.. Exactly same thing u used to accuse and yab aboki about in the past.. I dont even if this generation of ndigbo are developing or retrogessing.. As i stand it seems the so called aboki are becoming more political tolerant and developed than we the so called wise and smart ones.. Ikegwuru..
Stop the hate oga. Jonathan did mot ask u to revenge for hom, he is not even igbo.. Wetin concern u?
Efewestern: 1:06pm On Sep 07, 2023
Aiel123:

Okay
See you are forgetting that if Atiku had lost the ticket,he would have ported to another party.
Even Wike wouldn't have ed fully cause we saw his hand in the events that led Obi to leaving the party.
You're right. I see it clearly. Adamawa, Bauchi,Taraba, Gombe, Plateau, Nasarawa,Benue,Fct,Niger,Kogi won't have problem or qualm with an Obi ticket.
Winning SE, SS, some part of SW and pockets of NC/ NE states would be okay for Obi to win.
Kaduna too is surety.
I haven't thought about this since.
And Kwankwaso contesting makes it more interesting.
This I now believe will be the winning formula.
Like you said lesson has been learnt
Party is supreme sometimes happens to be a kind of slavery.
I still don't regret voting PDP though as against a southerner.
Garfield1
How do you see this?



Atiku influences doesn't exceed NE/Adamawa. He once decamped to another party during 07-10, how did that affect the PDP? Wike rode on the Southern Nigeria sentiments, he won't have done much if the party gave another southern candidate the ticket. You forgot that he wasn't in of Atiku in 2019 and even though he didn't throw his weight behind the candidature of Atiku, PDP still won the state. We are giving people too much relevance.

Giving the ticket the a northerner after the tenure of another northerner fueled lots of things. Swelled Obi relevance and dominance, gave Wike the mouth and reasons to sabotage the party.

APC was weaken, heck, Buhari was working against the party, a united front and a southern candidate would have swept everywhere bro. It's just so painful thinking about all of these.

I understand you are a party man and would want to vote stick with your party but do you know the conc PDP yellow boys in Delta state failed to work with Atiku/Okowa but released all arsenals for Sheriff?

Northerners aren't this loyal. One must understand the country he/she is.
Aiel123: 6:21pm On Sep 07, 2023
Efewestern:


Atiku influences doesn't exceed NE/Adamawa. He once decamped to another party during 07-10, how did that affect the PDP? Wike rode on the Southern Nigeria sentiments, he won't have done much if the party gave another southern candidate the ticket. You forgot that he wasn't in of Atiku in 2019 and even though he didn't throw his weight behind the candidature of Atiku, PDP still won the state. We are giving people too much relevance.

Giving the ticket the a northerner after the tenure of another northerner fueled lots of things. Swelled Obi relevance and dominance, gave Wike the mouth and reasons to sabotage the party.

APC was weaken, heck, Buhari was working against the party, a united front and a southern candidate would have swept everywhere bro. It's just so painful thinking about all of these.

I understand you are a party man and would want to vote stick with your party but do you know the conc PDP yellow boys in Delta state failed to work with Atiku/Okowa but released all arsenals for Sheriff?

Northerners aren't this loyal. One must understand the country he/she is.
Politics happened and the game brought in a winner. This is a lesson for subsequent election.
I'm comfortable with PDP still retaining Delta.
APC should hold the center make we manage state.
On the I don't care attitude of delta PDP towards Atiku's presidency it was laid bare on the election day. The signs were there but I chose to ignore. That was why I predicted PDP would win delta no matter what.
Until election came ...it was at the polling unit level I knew it was over.
Kukutenla: 6:40pm On Sep 07, 2023
pquaver:

Stop the self delusion. If i wasn't igbo i for chop your bobo @ the bolded. Before 2015 this hate has been building and being rd on.. Ndi yoruba this Ndi Awusa that.. The message ed to the younger ones has not also been about cohabitation with other Nigerians tribes and finally what u see is the result.. So dont axt like u can deceive everyone.. My only saving probably would be that i spent 6 years of part of my formative years in the west (kings college lagos) and if u know that was a unity school where i lived with all tribes from Nigeria, made friends and got to learn what i hear when i go for holidays where not true. I had best friends from the not and the southwest, from south south and also my traditional buddies back home, so i was in a position to learn to see people from individual perspective and not tribe.. Most of we igbo are now going with mob and herd mentality.. Exactly same thing u used to accuse and yab aboki about in the past.. I dont even if this generation of ndigbo are developing or retrogessing.. As i stand it seems the so called aboki are becoming more political tolerant and developed than we the so called wise and smart ones.. Ikegwuru..
Stop the hate oga. Jonathan did mot ask u to revenge for hom, he is not even igbo.. Wetin concern u?
What a truckload of crap!!
See how your keep mentioning igbo in your tirade as if Igbos gathered in a village square and all decided that hate for others will be their central theme in relating with the rest of the country.
Since you say you're igbo, answer this simple question. Are igbos singularly responsible for how divisive our politics is today?
In the trajectory of Nigeria since 1999, Igbos have played centre politics until 2015 when they shifted to opposition. So if you think the crap makes you better than the average igbo, you're simply deluded.
I've met Igbos in faraway parts of the North and south. So all this talk of Igbos hate because they are taught to is pure hogwash.
The supremacist Fulani who are killing others over their ancestral lands are igbo to I guess.
Like i said and I still insist, when the APC/ACN were in opposition pre-2015, they were not better behaved as well. They called the president and everyone opposed to them all sort of names as well. The only thing was they didn't make it a tribal affair. But in of bitter and divisive statements, they were not better.
pquaver(m): 8:55pm On Sep 07, 2023
Kukutenla:

What a truckload of crap!!
See how your keep mentioning igbo in your tirade as if Igbos gathered in a village square and all decided that hate for others will be their central theme in relating with the rest of the country.
Since you say you're igbo, answer this simple question. Are igbos singularly responsible for how divisive our politics is today?
In the trajectory of Nigeria since 1999, Igbos have played centre politics until 2015 when they shifted to opposition. So if you think the crap makes you better than the average igbo, you're simply deluded.
I've met Igbos in faraway parts of the North and south. So all this talk of Igbos hate because they are taught to is pure hogwash.
The supremacist Fulani who are killing others over their ancestral lands are igbo to I guess.
Like i said and I still insist, when the APC/ACN were in opposition pre-2015, they were not better behaved as well. They called the president and everyone opposed to them all sort of names as well. The only thing was they didn't make it a tribal affair. But in of bitter and divisive statements, they were not better.
It is not hogwash. Stop ing hate down.. Simple.. Igbos are not solely responsible but we are the author and finishers.. Let us say the truth. We grew up hearing ndi awusa merenke, ndi yoruba mere nke.. But i step into the west 1996 no single day did i get that tribal remark.. Infact i didn't even there was tribe.. Do you know for example the first day i step into my best friend house his father was a senator, the man and his wife welcome me from day 1 and treated my like his own son( Senator Bode Olowoproku.. I pay tribute to you.. May your soul rest in peace. A detribalized Nigerian. A man worthy of emulation. May your soul rest in the bosoom of the lord). For 1 day even when i messed up was any comment or remark aboit my tribe.. This is just 1 out of the many yoruba populace i go to mingle with.. But simple go to idumota where we plenty.. What do u here ndi yoruba dis ndi yoruba thatm.. What were you thinking would happen +** the will keep being quiet? This is why i told u, we sshould learnt by now.. Hausa and yoruba are very fast learner... We tend to introduce all dis negative trick amd sense but guess what the learn quick and begin to use it, and when they do u begin to cry... Wait let aboki let this 1 u introduced via mobning and blackmail of judiciary in. Last election.. U will see that theirs will be worst.. I will be here to see u complain about their attitude.. I will still remind u that u start it and i warned u but u called it hogwash.. To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction..
Kukutenla: 11:48pm On Sep 07, 2023
pquaver:

It is not hogwash. Stop ing hate down.. Simple.. Igbos are not solely responsible but we are the author and finishers.. Let us say the truth. We grew up hearing ndi awusa merenke, ndi yoruba mere nke.. But i step into the west 1996 no single day did i get that tribal remark.. Infact i didn't even there was tribe.. Do you know for example the first day i step into my best friend house his father was a senator, the man and his wife welcome me from day 1 and treated my like his own son( Senator Bode Olowoproku.. I pay tribute to you.. May your soul rest in peace. A detribalized Nigerian. A man worthy of emulation. May your soul rest in the bosoom of the lord). For 1 day even when i messed up was any comment or remark aboit my tribe.. This is just 1 out of the many yoruba populace i go to mingle with.. But simple go to idumota where we plenty.. What do u here ndi yoruba dis ndi yoruba thatm.. What were you thinking would happen +** the will keep being quiet? This is why i told u, we sshould learnt by now.. Hausa and yoruba are very fast learner... We tend to introduce all dis negative trick amd sense but guess what the learn quick and begin to use it, and when they do u begin to cry... Wait let aboki let this 1 u introduced via mobning and blackmail of judiciary in. Last election.. U will see that theirs will be worst.. I will be here to see u complain about their attitude.. I will still remind u that u start it and i warned u but u called it hogwash.. To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction..
So you never heard Yorubas call Igbo omo nna or ajokutamamumi or Hausa call Igbo Onye mmiri or Yoruba call Hausa aboki or gambari. But you heard only that of If Igbos and you believe you're an enlightened Nigerian.
From 1960 and even before, there's been mutual tribal suspicion. Even in the 1950s before independence, Igbos were massacred in the North.
But that's not my point. From 1999 to now, the divisive rhetoric and toxic politics started with APC pre-2015. That's a fact you can't change no matter how you try to. It was ACN who teamed up with Tambuwal to upset the PDP arrangement of a SW Speaker. It's from there tribalism started to seethe into our politics.
Was it Igbo that taught ACN to play such dirty politics against one of their own in 2011?
After APC took power, was it Igbo that asked Buhari to make the 97%__5% statement? That's how the confrontation started. It was the first time since 1999 that the President, Speaker and SP all came from the same zone!!
So quit so the Igbo bashing. APC have mismanaged our diversity and used it to turn one against the other. A responsible Central govt should try to integrate all the parts of a Nation not turn one against the other.
That's been the bane of our politics since APC took power
pquaver(m): 12:27am On Sep 08, 2023
Kukutenla:

So you never heard Yorubas call Igbo omo nna or ajokutamamumi or Hausa call Igbo Onye mmiri or Yoruba call Hausa aboki or gambari. But you heard only that of If Igbos and you believe you're an enlightened Nigerian.
From 1960 and even before, there's been mutual tribal suspicion. Even in the 1950s before independence, Igbos were massacred in the North.
But that's not my point. From 1999 to now, the divisive rhetoric and toxic politics started with APC pre-2015. That's a fact you can't change no matter how you try to. It was ACN who teamed up with Tambuwal to upset the PDP arrangement of a SW Speaker. It's from there tribalism started to seethe into our politics.
Was it Igbo that taught ACN to play such dirty politics against one of their own in 2011?
After APC took power, was it Igbo that asked Buhari to make the 97%__5% statement? That's how the confrontation started. It was the first time since 1999 that the President, Speaker and SP all came from the same zone!!
So quit so the Igbo bashing. APC have mismanaged our diversity and used it to turn one against the other. A responsible Central govt should try to integrate all the parts of a Nation not turn one against the other.
That's been the bane of our politics since APC took power

I started hearing that really from 2014 2015..before then i wasall mild.. Even in the east it was notas pronounced as now. This fulanis with their cows foe example i have being seen them since i was born in owerri... So @ wat point did they just turn killers. Cos then no thing like they killed village people.. Infact in my village hausa fulani people even help in farming and lived in our communities.. But those people will agenda keep ing misinformation about the neighbors unti kaboom it exploded. My brother you know as u said the problem is not only igbo so is Nigeria problem no dey believe everyother person is the problem of Nigeria apart from u and only u is good.. Igbos are a big part of Nigeria problem and also not only is have the solution.. If we understand it, it will go along way.. Dont get me wrong it doesn't lie only on us.. Hausa, yoruba too but the fact is the have shown to be willing.. If only us havee problem with hausa and yoruba and the 2 get on fine then we should have a deep reflection.. Our problem is we still in Biafra and ee cant move forward until we embrace Nigeria shalom..
pquaver(m): 12:36am On Sep 08, 2023
Kukutenla:

So you never heard Yorubas call Igbo omo nna or ajokutamamumi or Hausa call Igbo Onye mmiri or Yoruba call Hausa aboki or gambari. But you heard only that of If Igbos and you believe you're an enlightened Nigerian.
From 1960 and even before, there's been mutual tribal suspicion. Even in the 1950s before independence, Igbos were massacred in the North.
But that's not my point. From 1999 to now, the divisive rhetoric and toxic politics started with APC pre-2015. That's a fact you can't change no matter how you try to. It was ACN who teamed up with Tambuwal to upset the PDP arrangement of a SW Speaker. It's from there tribalism started to seethe into our politics.
Was it Igbo that taught ACN to play such dirty politics against one of their own in 2011?

After APC took power, was it Igbo that asked Buhari to make the 97%__5% statement? That's how the confrontation started. It was the first time since 1999 that the President, Speaker and SP all came from the same zone!!
So quit so the Igbo bashing. APC have mismanaged our diversity and used it to turn one against the other. A responsible Central govt should try to integrate all the parts of a Nation not turn one against the other.
That's been the bane of our politics since APC took power
I agree with you, in some things but again let politics be politics.. Why carry what happened in politics to tribal? Is same gej not with Tinubu today? Did they ask u to revenge for them? Why cry more than the bereaved? Our carrying Jonathan for head started all thid.. In Nigeria alliance has always been formed but in this dispenion u guys took it tribal and personal. It is no suppose to be so.. Even the Tinubu is ready to incorporate atiku and obi if the agree to work with him.. Why take it personal... Even the southsouth he is there son is with tinibu.. Ibori, tompolo, asari, gej himself, wike.. Why nfigbo csrr tge thing for head like gala?
Kukutenla: 6:33am On Sep 08, 2023
pquaver:

I agree with you, in some things but again let politics be politics.. Why carry what happened in politics to tribal? Is same gej not with Tinubu today? Did they ask u to revenge for them? Why cry more than the bereaved? Our carrying Jonathan for head started all thid.. In Nigeria alliance has always been formed but in this dispenion u guys took it tribal and personal. It is no suppose to be so.. Even the Tinubu is ready to incorporate atiku and obi if the agree to work with him.. Why take it personal... Even the southsouth he is there son is with tinibu.. Ibori, tompolo, asari, gej himself, wike.. Why nfigbo csrr tge thing for head like gala?
You need to realise it will be hypocritical of you to describe divisiveness as politics when one is concerned and tribalism when the other is. Yoruba elders visited Jonathan and complained of marginalisation not long after the Speakership issue I mentioned above. Was that still politics?
You need to understand that Nigeria from independence is made up of 3 major ethnic groups. The SS as you call it is not a contiguous ethnic group. You think if Jonathan was a northerner and so ashamed and booted out of office, we'll be sleeping pretty in Nigeria now? Just Yaradua dying on seat and Buhari losing 2011 ultimately led to boko haram conflagration. The SS in the south are just like Christian tribes in the North. They are largely politically subsumed and thus lack the ability to mount any serious political pressure like the 3 large ethnic groups. Those 6 people you mentioned have 4 tribes in between them!
Secondly, you need to realise like I said before that the triumphalism of APC led to this sorry . Let me tell you for free that your igbo leaders are the most disconnected set of politicians any part of the country. If any part of the country was having agitations like we have in the east presently, the polity will be so heated that the leadership of that region would have become the new national conscience for others. Let me give you two examples. Abiola died in jail. Due to the hurt in the west, the presidency was ceded to them in 1999. No questions asked. Post 2011, North was hurting and burning, they got the presidency in 2015. 2023, SE has the biggest moral claim to the presidency. They didn't get it, yet some people think instead of compensating them, they should be "taught a lesson". Pls. That's not how to run a complex country like Nigeria.
So quit the bullshitting. It's APC that's the problem not igbos. They need to dialogue with the igbo and start making moves to get them back into the centre.
And Jonathan is not with anybody. As has been pointed out, he is simply moving on because he's a minority and not really the power hungry type. Do you know after he conceded, the ACN wing of APC doubled down on their insults on him instead of reining in on the insults?
Efewestern: 6:40am On Sep 08, 2023
Aiel123:

Politics happened and the game brought in a winner. This is a lesson for subsequent election.
I'm comfortable with PDP still retaining Delta.
APC should hold the center make we manage state.
On the I don't care attitude of delta PDP towards Atiku's presidency it was laid bare on the election day. The signs were there but I chose to ignore. That was why I predicted PDP would win delta no matter what.
Until election came ...it was at the polling unit level I knew it was over.

Don't worry, your party will hold this state for a long time. It seems there's no overlord party leadership in the state. Everyone now has their own followers and area of dominance.
Kukutenla: 6:45am On Sep 08, 2023
pquaver:


I started hearing that really from 2014 2015..before then i wasall mild.. Even in the east it was notas pronounced as now. This fulanis with their cows foe example i have being seen them since i was born in owerri... So @ wat point did they just turn killers. Cos then no thing like they killed village people.. Infact in my village hausa fulani people even help in farming and lived in our communities.. But those people will agenda keep ing misinformation about the neighbors unti kaboom it exploded. My brother you know as u said the problem is not only igbo so is Nigeria problem no dey believe everyother person is the problem of Nigeria apart from u and only u is good.. Igbos are a big part of Nigeria problem and also not only is have the solution.. If we understand it, it will go along way.. Dont get me wrong it doesn't lie only on us.. Hausa, yoruba too but the fact is the have shown to be willing.. If only us havee problem with hausa and yoruba and the 2 get on fine then we should have a deep reflection.. Our problem is we still in Biafra and ee cant move forward until we embrace Nigeria shalom..
You really believe Hausa and Yoruba get on well? Who were those fighting in Mile 2 yesterday?
Do you know how many times Hausa leaders have come to Yoruba land to protest killing of their people?
I'm not saying the igbos don't have their issues. But to paint them as the worst behaved and use that as excuse to push them away from the central table is pure hogwash!! The Igbo have not done half of what the north have done to destabilise this nation from 1999 through sharia, boko haram, herdsmen attack and other evils. Yet I'm sure no one will even think about denying them the presidency in 2031. It might even be a Fulani man again!
The fact is APC think they have the winning formula and it's ing the igbo as bait to get other tribes on their side especially the Muslim core north. Tinubu did not visit the East during APC primaries run-up. He has made just token appointments from the East. You think he's not being deliberate? He ran as a southern candidate with an all Muslim ticket. Imagine a northerner running with an all Christian ticket.
That's what APC is doing to our diversity and using igbo as the whipping boy for their politics. Even Lauretta mentioned ipob on some house issue in London. Will she have an issue with a northerner and call him boko haram?
pquaver(m): 1:09pm On Sep 08, 2023
Kukutenla:

You really believe Hausa and Yoruba get on well? Who were those fighting in Mile 2 yesterday?
Do you know how many times Hausa leaders have come to Yoruba land to protest killing of their people?

I'm not saying the igbos don't have their issues. But to paint them as the worst behaved and use that as excuse to push them away from the central table is pure hogwash!! The Igbo have not done half of what the north have done to destabilise this nation from 1999 through sharia, boko haram, herdsmen attack and other evils. Yet I'm sure no one will even think about denying them the presidency in 2031. It might even be a Fulani man again!
The fact is APC think they have the winning formula and it's ing the igbo as bait to get other tribes on their side especially the Muslim core north. Tinubu did not visit the East during APC primaries run-up. He has made just token appointments from the East. You think he's not being deliberate? He ran as a southern candidate with an all Muslim ticket. Imagine a northerner running with an all Christian ticket.
That's what APC is doing to our diversity and using igbo as the whipping boy for their politics. Even Lauretta mentioned ipob on some house issue in London. Will she have an issue with a northerner and call him boko haram?

Agulu eri and umuleri fought for years, in ebonyi there was communal clash does it mean igbos dont get on well? Modaeke and ife clashed in a well know history does it mean yorubas dont get on well
Kukutenla: 1:14pm On Sep 08, 2023
pquaver:


Agulu eri and umuleri fought for years, in ebonyi there was communal clash does it mean igbos dont get on well? Modaeke and ife clashed in a well know history does it mean yorubas dont get on well
You're getting me wrong. What i did is comparative not absolute.
Can you point to instant cases of igbo and Yoruba fighting each other like I just pointed above? Both in Yorubaland and in Igboland?
The fact is the animosity started in 2011 and spilled over in 2015. And even at that, it has not degenerated into violent fisticuffs.
pquaver(m): 1:15pm On Sep 08, 2023
Kukutenla:

You need to realise it will be hypocritical of you to describe divisiveness as politics when one is concerned and tribalism when the other is. Yoruba elders visited Jonathan and complained of marginalisation not long after the Speakership issue I mentioned above. Was that still politics?
You need to understand that Nigeria from independence is made up of 3 major ethnic groups. The SS as you call it is not a contiguous ethnic group. You think if Jonathan was a northerner and so ashamed and booted out of office, we'll be sleeping pretty in Nigeria now? Just Yaradua dying on seat and Buhari losing 2011 ultimately led to boko haram conflagration. The SS in the south are just like Christian tribes in the North. They are largely politically subsumed and thus lack the ability to mount any serious political pressure like the 3 large ethnic groups. Those 6 people you mentioned have 4 tribes in between them!
Secondly, you need to realise like I said before that the triumphalism of APC led to this sorry . Let me tell you for free that your igbo leaders are the most disconnected set of politicians any part of the country. If any part of the country was having agitations like we have in the east presently, the polity will be so heated that the leadership of that region would have become the new national conscience for others. Let me give you two examples. Abiola died in jail. Due to the hurt in the west, the presidency was ceded to them in 1999. No questions asked. Post 2011, North was hurting and burning, they got the presidency in 2015. 2023, SE has the biggest moral claim to the presidency. They didn't get it, yet some people think instead of compensating them, they should be "taught a lesson". Pls. That's not how to run a complex country like Nigeria.
So quit the bullshitting. It's APC that's the problem not igbos. They need to dialogue with the igbo and start making moves to get them back into the centre.
And Jonathan is not with anybody. As has been pointed out, he is simply moving on because he's a minority and not really the power hungry type. Do you know after he conceded, the ACN wing of APC doubled down on their insults on him instead of reining in on the insults?

@ the bolded i disagree with you. Boko haram was already in existence during the obasanjo.. Regime infact yaradua was cinc when their leader was killed so if boko haram was formed because of Gej government how come it existed under obasanjo and yaradua from the north? This is why i keep shouting critical thinking for you obidients... Why must u swallow lies hook line and sinker? Why not make ur own finding.. Now u r doung ur Action with is lies as a foundation of it.. Why womt u resent others when u r already filled with lies about them.. Same boko haram that kidnap girls under Buhari, same boko haram that tried to kill Buhari.. As does it even add up in your thinking?

Apc does not need to dialogue with ndigbo .. It is a political party and it is free for anyone to associate with it. Did PDP ndigbo ed for donkey years dialogue with us? Did pdp not throw us under the bus when it got to giving us ticket? Are ndigbo despite that not ready to vote pdp tomorrow instead of apc? Yet you are looking for dialogue from Apc. That is an entitlement mentality.. Nobody is going to neg u.. You can continue in this road if u want or u can reason and find out for donkey years we have done things and it didn't work let is try another.. This decision is left to us.. When we cry marginalisation na we dey cry other tribes ate mot affected. As u make ur bed so will u lie.. Shalom
pquaver(m): 1:21pm On Sep 08, 2023
Kukutenla:

You're getting me wrong. What i did is comparative not absolute.
Can you point to instant cases of igbo and Yoruba fighting each other like I just pointed above? Both in Yorubaland and in Igboland?
The fact is the animosity started in 2011 and spilled over in 2015. And even at that, it has not degenerated into violent fisticuffs.

Ok i understand what u mean now..

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7lives: 1:28pm On Sep 08, 2023
ngeneukwuewuGOAT:
The PDP is a very useless party. They caused this.
They felt Obi cannot win the presidency for the party hence pushing Obi out of the party. If they have abide by the zoning arrangements of the party and allow the presidency to the South East, Obi would have won under their ticket easily with a big margin. The greed by Atiku and Wike was responsible for the demise of the PDP

I understand your issue with Atiku, why can't the whole of Southern Nigeria delegates unite to Wike?.
Wike been dey keep the party together for eight years na?.
puremaker7(m): 1:47pm On Sep 08, 2023
seanwilliam:
What of LP?
Wetin dem win?
Dem win riot๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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