| 9jatriot(m): 8:38am On Jun 20, 2023 |
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Do not be deceived by the play of words from Peter Obi's camp. There was no Amazon expert called to be a witness but just a Labor Party member who was also a contestant on the election.
While it is true that you can be an knowleadgeable about Amazon and still be a contestant, the impression PO camp want to create is that Amazon sent an employee to come and testify on their behalf, I can assure you that was not what happened. The so called expert is talking based on what he believes he knows about Amazon AWS.
Even having a certification in AWS is not enough to call you an expert.
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| Penguin2: 8:59am On Jun 20, 2023 |
SangoOlukosoOba:
Ignore the long epistle.
How is Amazon responsible for the technical issue of INEC website?
Did INEC claim they had an outage, unavailability, storage or access issue?
INEC said “its website” had glitches. What is Amazon responsible for in this scenario?
Stop trying to rationalize the illogical my friend.
If Bandits kill 50 people in Benue State, would say it’s a Benue problem or would you call on police to sit up and arrest the killers and prevent future occurrences?
Amazon is responsible for the security of anything hosted on AWS. Therefore, if anyone claims any kind of failure as regards any website hosted on AWS, it is incumbent on Amazon to explain what happened.
It’s same way we would the Police PRO in Benue to explain why people were killed instead of ing Benue villagers.
What’s your point really?
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| Penguin2: 9:14am On Jun 20, 2023 |
inoki247:
Lol this people are joker's so all the technical glitch we get from Banks all this Payment portal the fault we face during the Cash scarcity also are from the host and not the developer....
When they say you people are slow and have nothing in ur brain they're not lying...
I don't even think you know anything Abt Website ur own na just to open Page ...
Well you can sue INEC on behalf of Amazon so you can get what you're looking for...
Pathetic that you don’t know that there’s a body responsible for all bank transfers in Nigeria. It’s called NIBSS which stands for Nigeria Inter-Bank Settlement System. It is owned by the CBN and all Commercial Banks and every transaction in Nigeria es through it before it is settled.
When we suffered glitches on bank transfers during the election period, they were the ones responsible because they deliberately jammed their network. That’s why every bank suffered it.
Now, take NIBSS as AWS and one commercial bank in Nigeria as INEC…
Would you blame the commercial bank for the network failure and inability to make transfers during the election or blame NIBSS that should ensure that electronic transactions are hitch free?
If you would blame the bank, how come every other bank suffered the same problem? Which shows it’s from the source.
But imagine every other bank was working seamlessly and one bank was having network issues, won’t you automatically know that it is clear and deliberate act by such bank?
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| inoki247: 9:17am On Jun 20, 2023 |
Penguin2:
Pathetic that you don’t know that there’s a body responsible for all bank transfers in Nigeria.
It’s called NIBSS which stands for Nigeria Inter-Bank Settlement System. It is owned by the CBN and all Commercial Banks and every transaction in Nigeria es through it before it is settled.
When we suffered glitches on bank transfers during the election period, they were the ones responsible because they deliberately jammed their network. That’s why every bank suffered it.
Now, take NIBSS as AWS and one commercial bank in Nigeria as INEC…
Would you blame the commercial bank for the network failure and inability to make transfers during the election or blame NIBSS that should ensure that electronic transactions are hitch free?
If you would blame the bank, how come every other bank suffered the same problem? Which shows it’s from the source.
But imagine every other bank was working seamlessly and one bank was having network issues, won’t you automatically know that it is clear and deliberate act by such bank?
Lol I didn't follow you to suffer any bank glitches on election day I sent money to people severally on that day I don't know where you got your fake news from...
Even in my polling unit vote were bought with Bank transfer....
You people and making up jargons in ur head....
There are times UBA will have issues and GTB won't have can we say that's NiBSS....
You just making up things in ur head....
You don't know anything about Website so rest that's why you're looking for a way to twist the matter....
If is so sure for u sue INEC on behalf of Amazon and see the results u will get....
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| Penguin2: 9:18am On Jun 20, 2023 |
N3TRAL:
Na so Atiku shout server for 2019. Even Hushpuppy scam am say he go hack server 😂
The greatest lie is self-deception.
Atiku’s server case failed in 2019 because there was no law recognizing INEC to own and manage a server or any other technological equipment then.
But the 2022 Electoral Act has given legal status to INEC website and other technological tools.
So, it would amount to foolery to think that INEC would get away with the denial of their website like they did in 2019.
But of course I’m you are incapable of separating facts and appropriately understanding the variables at play now as against 2019.
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| senatordave1(m): 9:21am On Jun 20, 2023 |
Penguin2:
Today, an Amazon employee and a Cloud Engineer and Architect testified in court at the ongoing Presidential Petition Tribunal and brought with her, 33 reports from 6 regions of the country to refute INEC’s claim that the reason it failed to follow the Electoral Law that mandates it to results from polling units was because it’s website suffered “technical glitches”.
The implication of INEC’s claim, if it finally stands, is that Amazon has lied to millions of its customers worldwide on the reliability of its web hosting platform. Recall that Amazon prides that it’s AWS infrastructure is 99.9% efficient in all technological ramifications; from limitless storage capacity to security of data to seamless experience in using the platform. It is therefore imperative for Amazon to clear its name so as to reassure its customers that the platform is still reliable.
Failure to clear its name and incontrovertibly demonstrate in court that its platform is reliable and that INEC lied, the platform might face barrage of lawsuits from s who would cite the failure of AWS in Nigeria as ground to prove that Amazon had lied to them while marketing the platform to them that AWS was 99.9% reliable. Such lawsuits might lead to Amazon losing billions of dollars in damages claims. But it won’t stop there.
Not only would Amazon lose billions of in damages claims, it might also lose its existing customers to rival platforms and they would also likely lose potential clients who would rather deploy rival platforms than deploy AWS that has “failed in Nigeria”.
That is why I am calling on Amazon, that not only should it concentrate on incontrovertibly demonstrating that INEC liked through its teeth just so it could rig the election for Tinubu, they should also sue INEC, either in Nigeria or US, and demand billions of dollars in damages unless INEC is able to incontrovertibly prove in court that it did suffer “technical glitches” and that AWS truly failed, for the first time ever, in Nigeria.
I’ve said it before and I will reiterate it for the umpteenth time, that for the courts to uphold Tinubu’s ‘victory’, they would have to render a greater chunk of the 1999 constitution and the entire Electoral Act 2022 useless.
Like Aisha Yesufu said, “our business is not to trust the judiciary, our business is to overwhelm the judiciary with evidence.”
By the time Obi is done in court, the Judiciary would have no option than to do justice.
Rerun is the best that Tinubu can get out of the courts.
We watch and wait!
How would this help obi? Which part of the law covers Amazon? Need I remind you that justice agim called server reports third hand data and therefore AWS will be fourthhand?
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| Penguin2: 9:22am On Jun 20, 2023 |
N3TRAL:
You can't tender evidence from a third party in court. Only INEC's data is proper evidence. Amazon is a third party.
Oh my goodness! Can you stop misinforming the public?
If you can’t tender evidence from a third party in court, then why are there witnesses in court? Are witnesses not third parties to every case?
A third party tendering a evidence in court is valid as long as you get the third party to tender the evidence himself and not you bringing it to court on his behalf.
Get yourself educated please.
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| Penguin2: 9:24am On Jun 20, 2023 |
inoki247:
Lol if AWS have access to it they will still need a court order before they can give it to anyone.....
Just like you saying because Google az access to ur GMail they can just wake up and give anybody the transcript of your mail without approaching any court and just even give it to dere staff nd not even a Lawyer or a Law enforcement agency....
Then what do you think a “subpoena” is?
Ice cream?
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| Yankee101: 9:24am On Jun 20, 2023 |
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Aws will not lie for you
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| Penguin2: 9:27am On Jun 20, 2023 |
N3TRAL:
WAEC, NYSC etc are the organisations that issue the certification. They are legally vested with the responsibility of issuing certificates just like INEC collate results, announce them and issue certificates of return.
Neither WAEC nor NYSC are third parties. WAEC and NYSC have websites with data of millions stored in the servers of web hosting service providers.
They're are instances where WAEC or NYSC hold that they do not have the record of candidates in their custody. The candidate whose record is not found cannot approach the third party hosting service to prove that their record is in WAEC'S or NYSC'S servers.
According to the Evidence Act, only WAEC or NYSC or INEC records is valid evidence.
The evidence of the web hosting service provider here would only have nuisance value for social media accolades and nothing else.
Bringing Amazon to the case is of no value than bragging rights.
Don’t be a joke!
In the case of Edeoga vs Peter Mbah, is NYSC not a third party?
Are they second party? Or first party?
Why are you doing this to yourself in public?
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| OfoIgbo: 9:29am On Jun 20, 2023 |
SangoOlukosoOba:
“it’s website suffered “technical glitches”.
I am very certain that whoever composed this gibberish is not an IT expert.
What has AWS got to do with the INEC website? The fact that you hosting a website on AWS does not make AWS responsible for any glitch. You are still 100% liable for websites technical issues.
Oh! You want Amazon to sue INEC because their website had technical issues? 🤣🤣🤣
You obviously are not a computer programmer.
I expect that AWS APIs are embedded in INEC sites for the election. The fact that every other functionality on the site was working, except the ability to the scanned results, immediately alleges that AWS is at fault.
INEC is indirectly alleging that AWS failed them.
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| Penguin2: 9:30am On Jun 20, 2023 |
9jatriot:
Do not be deceived by the play of words from Peter Obi's camp. There was no Amazon expert called to be a witness but just a Labor Party member who was also a contestant on the election.
While it is true that you can be an knowleadgeable about Amazon and still be a contestant, the impression PO camp want to create is that Amazon sent an employee to come and testify on their behalf, I can assure you that was not what happened. The so called expert is talking based on what he believes he knows about Amazon AWS.
Even having a certification in AWS is not enough to call you an expert.
Lol!
Continue to comfort yourself with a lie if that would help suit your pain.
But are you aware his employment later and ID card as Amazon staff was tendered in court?
You think everyone is a criminal like Tinubu that hired fake Bishops.
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| inoki247: 9:31am On Jun 20, 2023 |
Penguin2:
Then what do you think a “subpoena” is?
Ice cream?
Lol you just dribbling man....
Before Amazon can give out anything to a 3rd party you need a court order so rest the subpoena when was it issued to Amazon...
You people are just making things up on ur head when you get countered u find another place dribble go....
I just gave you a simple example you can't into your Bank app don't av access to ur Bank will you blame the host or the developer you no see answer yarn...
If you know about Website how it works u will av more sense buh isn't ur field so continue with the delusion....
I already told you...
You're free to sue INEC on behalf of Amazon or write a letter to them to come sue INEC so we can see the result you're looking for...
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| Igwe9(m): 9:33am On Jun 20, 2023 |
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This one won't make front page
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| ExudeLoveToAll: 9:35am On Jun 20, 2023 |
DevilsEqual:
Rerun of a presidential election in Nigeria,even with the huge debt on our neck
Na u go borrow us another 400B to run that one
Comments being made by most Obi ers is a proof that our educational system Needs total overhauling.... Most of u arent even brilliant and CNT think independently too
What are saying? Because we don't have money that is the reason a process which did not follow the due process of the law should be maintained? It's even more disheartening labelling yourself brilliant and others not brilliant. Due process should be followed at all times no matter whose ox is gored.
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| Igwe9(m): 9:36am On Jun 20, 2023 |
SangoOlukosoOba:
“it’s website suffered “technical glitches”.
I am very certain that whoever composed this gibberish is not an IT expert.
What has AWS got to do with the INEC website? The fact that you hosting a website on AWS does not make AWS responsible for any glitch. You are still 100% liable for websites technical issues.
Oh! You want Amazon to sue INEC because their website had technical issues? 🤣🤣🤣
Get an IT expert to explain it well for your, meanwhile, INEC website did not suffer any problem but AWS server according to INEC, Inec website is only containing a viewing link to AWS.
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| senatordave1(m): 9:37am On Jun 20, 2023 |
Penguin2:
Oh my goodness! Can you stop misinforming the public?
If you can’t tender evidence from a third party in court, then why are there witnesses in court? Are witnesses not third parties to every case?
A third party tendering a evidence in court is valid as long as you get the third party to tender the evidence himself and not you bringing it to court on his behalf.
Get yourself educated please.
It becomes invalid once there's bias
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| Bigkoko: 9:41am On Jun 20, 2023 |
No Amazon don't need to sue, rather an interested party should Sue Amazon in the USA, for lying about the realizability of it AWS system. This will bring regulators to question it vigorously. Amazon would be forced to produced tough, secret evidence that shows how someone marked 'X' ordered INEC staff to unplug the networks. Case closed. Evidence, CTC gotten.
But i feel LP legal counsels are already planning for any eventuality! Las las we go collect our stolen mandate!
Penguin2:
Today, an Amazon employee and a Cloud Engineer and Architect testified in court at the ongoing Presidential Petition Tribunal and brought with her, 33 reports from 6 regions of the country to refute INEC’s claim that the reason it failed to follow the Electoral Law that mandates it to results from polling units was because it’s website suffered “technical glitches”.
The implication of INEC’s claim, if it finally stands, is that Amazon has lied to millions of its customers worldwide on the reliability of its web hosting platform. Recall that Amazon prides that it’s AWS infrastructure is 99.9% efficient in all technological ramifications; from limitless storage capacity to security of data to seamless experience in using the platform. It is therefore imperative for Amazon to clear its name so as to reassure its customers that the platform is still reliable.
Failure to clear its name and incontrovertibly demonstrate in court that its platform is reliable and that INEC lied, the platform might face barrage of lawsuits from s who would cite the failure of AWS in Nigeria as ground to prove that Amazon had lied to them while marketing the platform to them that AWS was 99.9% reliable. Such lawsuits might lead to Amazon losing billions of dollars in damages claims. But it won’t stop there.
Not only would Amazon lose billions of in damages claims, it might also lose its existing customers to rival platforms and they would also likely lose potential clients who would rather deploy rival platforms than deploy AWS that has “failed in Nigeria”.
That is why I am calling on Amazon, that not only should it concentrate on incontrovertibly demonstrating that INEC liked through its teeth just so it could rig the election for Tinubu, they should also sue INEC, either in Nigeria or US, and demand billions of dollars in damages unless INEC is able to incontrovertibly prove in court that it did suffer “technical glitches” and that AWS truly failed, for the first time ever, in Nigeria.
I’ve said it before and I will reiterate it for the umpteenth time, that for the courts to uphold Tinubu’s ‘victory’, they would have to render a greater chunk of the 1999 constitution and the entire Electoral Act 2022 useless.
Like Aisha Yesufu said, “our business is not to trust the judiciary, our business is to overwhelm the judiciary with evidence.”
By the time Obi is done in court, the Judiciary would have no option than to do justice.
Rerun is the best that Tinubu can get out of the courts.
We watch and wait!
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| LikeAking: 9:43am On Jun 20, 2023 |
SangoOlukosoOba:
“it’s website suffered “technical glitches”.
I am very certain that whoever composed this gibberish is not an IT expert.
What has AWS got to do with the INEC website? The fact that you hosting a website on AWS does not make AWS responsible for any glitch. You are still 100% liable for websites technical issues.
Oh! You want Amazon to sue INEC because their website had technical issues? 🤣🤣🤣
You are still contradicting your self..
The fact that inec conducted the election with a faulty website alone is enough evidence to cancel the election..
Any website used by inev for election must be perfect...
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| Igwe9(m): 9:44am On Jun 20, 2023 |
DevilsEqual:
Rerun of a presidential election in Nigeria,even with the huge debt on our neck
Na u go borrow us another 400B to run that one
Comments being made by most Obi ers is a proof that our educational system Needs total overhauling.... Most of u arent even brilliant and CNT think independently too
INEC budget covered a case of possible rerun. That provision has already been made
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| LikeAking: 9:49am On Jun 20, 2023 |
SangoOlukosoOba:
Sincerely!
I am still trying to figure out where Amazon comes in🤣🤣
You know the truth, but you are just been tribalistic
Inec blamed Amazon for the website glictches...
It's online check..
The fact that inec conducted this election with a sub standard and amateur website is enough evidence to over turn Tinubus victory.
It's better you guys balme Amazon..
U think you are smart abi?
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| Spy360(m): 10:31am On Jun 20, 2023 |
SangoOlukosoOba:
Ignore the long epistle.
How is Amazon responsible for the technical issue of INEC website?
Did INEC claim they had an outage, unavailability, storage or access issue?
INEC said “its website” had glitches. What is Amazon responsible for in this scenario?
The health of a website is dependent on the server. Simple.
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| Jostoman: 11:42am On Jun 20, 2023 |
DevilsEqual:
Rerun of a presidential election in Nigeria,even with the huge debt on our neck
Na u go borrow us another 400B to run that one
Comments being made by most Obi ers is a proof that our educational system Needs total overhauling.... Most of u arent even brilliant and CNT think independently too
that is the way mandate thief always think, so you people did not thing of 400b when una dey change Atiku and Obi results. But there is always a first time.
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| SangoOlukosoOba(m): 11:51am On Jun 20, 2023 |
OfoIgbo:
You obviously are not a computer programmer.
I expect that AWS APIs are embedded in INEC sites for the election. The fact that every other functionality on the site was working, except the ability to the scanned results, immediately alleges that AWS is at fault.
INEC is indirectly alleging that AWS failed them.
Show me where your assertion was written in the article? What you composed were made up by you.
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| SangoOlukosoOba(m): 11:54am On Jun 20, 2023 |
Penguin2:
Stop trying to rationalize the illogical my friend.
If Bandits kill 50 people in Benue State, would say it’s a Benue problem or would you call on police to sit up and arrest the killers and prevent future occurrences?
Amazon is responsible for the security of anything hosted on AWS. Therefore, if anyone claims any kind of failure as regards any website hosted on AWS, it is incumbent on Amazon to explain what happened.
It’s same way we would the Police PRO in Benue to explain why people were killed instead of ing Benue villagers.
What’s your point really?
You people are making up scenarios and trying to divert.
INEC said “It’s website” how does that concern AWS? I can deploy a bad website right now and blame AWS instantly, if I chose to go by your logic.
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| BloomingDale(f): 12:19pm On Jun 20, 2023 |
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| kunleiky(m): 12:27pm On Jun 20, 2023 |
sreamsense:
All these ignorant Elupees, they will just be making themselves happy for short time before they resume wailing. This is how they wrote long useless report defending ANAP/Bantupage election forecast that Obi would win. They later resumed writing long letter quoting constitution upside down on Tinubu must have 25% in Abuja. There is nothing special from what AWS engineer said.
At least wait for cross examination first from opposition lawyers and see how your AWS engineer will end up disgracing Obi/LP. She will answer technical question tirelessly when she is bombarded during cross examination. INEC IT engineer must have hinted INEC lawyer on type of technical questions and wheather she just got AWS certifications or she is working presently as AWS in the data center location. LP has no case to prove, they are just entertaining us
Sincerely you sound like you're even the one making yourself happy with the unlikely hope that INEC lawyers will outperform the OBI/LP lawyers during cross-examination.
Have you ever wondered how far you "APC people" will go if the dubious announcement of the election results by INEC were to favour another party.
Well na person wey no deserve saraa dey call am haram.
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| pillager: 12:35pm On Jun 20, 2023 |
billante:
You Batists should stop defending everything, especially the ones you don't understand.
Every platform/website hosted anywhere has log files that you can check to know it's history/activities, if it is a was changed or a dot was mistakenly deleted from a source code, you will see it on the log files.
IREV log files AWS has access to it.
You don't even know what your are saying, what is this?
Why would Amazon have access to INEC server's log file, why?
And website log files do not store all the nonsense you mentioned above, they contain requests received by server, even source code changes do not reflect on the server only on the version control system is they have one.
What you said here is pure nonsense.
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| N3TRAL: 9:35pm On Jun 20, 2023 |
Penguin2:
Don’t be a joke!
In the case of Edeoga vs Peter Mbah, is NYSC not a third party?
Are they second party? Or first party?
Why are you doing this to yourself in public?
NYSC may be a third party.
But you don't get it because you aren't a lawyer. The evidence act provides to the effect that a primary document must be proved by the document itself. If there's contention as to the validity of the document, the person or party that issued the document can be called to testify.
Amazon didn't issue a certificate of return. They didn't collate the results. They didn't transmit results. They weren't vested with the power to declare a winner. It's as simple as A, B, C.
Like I said, you're not a lawyer so you won't understand the law of evidence.
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| sharpsecret: 10:13pm On Jun 20, 2023 |
pillager:
You don't even know what your are saying, what is this?
Why would Amazon have access to INEC server's log file, why?
And website log files do not store all the nonsense you mentioned above, they contain requests received by server, even source code changes do not reflect on the server only on the version control system is they have one.
What you said here is pure nonsense.
then they should receive an error message why it failed...and i think the court should also investigate if inec actually ed their service provider on the said day to clear any error or glitches
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