NewStats: 3,263,193 , 8,179,369 topics. Date: Thursday, 05 June 2025 at 01:56 AM 6o470

A001:
Sudan and Islamist extremism are 5 and 6. So, no one cares whether they've the best medical schools in the world.

The country will only attract extremists being one of the headquarters for Islamist extremists in the world.

this evacuation issue is a sensitive one

We might end up adding to the terrorist we already have

Hypocrite. The racist Arabs and fools like you in Africa regularly demonize and profile pagans in this part of the world.

The bulk of verses in your Qur'an profile pagans in dehumanizing and unfair ways. Yet you dey complain. When the Arabs and your fellow Muslims do the profiling, they're saying the truth as the "best of mankind", but when others do it, they're being unfair and dishonest.

BlaqFaze:
this evacuation issue is a sensitive one

We might end up adding to the terrorist we already have

I doubt if that really matters. Our borders are porous.

Amoto94:
The same us that were complaining about profiling by the defunct SARS and the attendant consequences that followed suit sees no problem in labelling just because the tag is for others. We can pretend to be objective but our bias will always shine through, I'm not fooled and I know who my friends are.

Nor be lie😔

The students are on their own. The rebels have control of the airport.

And this is all going down in a capital city - what is usually the last place to fall in situations like this

Evacuation will be a military operation. The level of coordination required for a successful evacuation naija special forces

Find an airstrip or landing zone. Land one of those galaxy/starlifter/hercules cargo planes there and hope it is not detected

Deploy vehicles to evacuate the students (who are not in a single location) .

Get all students safely to landing zone.

All the while trying to do this under the nose of the hostile rebel militia.

And all bets are off now because this is now oppressor on oppressor violence.

US, Jordanian and French militaries have evacuated their citizens and diplomats. But over here, our soldiers are only useful when it comes to extorting poor heavy-duty truck drivers.

akwesenana:
US, Jordanian and French militaries have evacuated their citizens and diplomats. But over here, our soldiers are only useful when it comes to extorting poor heavy-duty truck drivers.

i doubt they have the volume of citizenry nigeria has on ground. 5000 people. and i am fairly certain they are concentrated in one or two locations


and of course, being oyibos, their intelligence agencies have been aware of this and making plans.

airbus capacity is 800
hercules c130 capacity is under 100
this is not a get in and get out op.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_in_Sudan
numbers are disted - but lets just say there are over 50 univeristies in sudan, with several in khartoum.
your average embassy or private company already has some sort of internal security who will be coordinating with your military


the only hope for those students is to try to get to ethiopia or eriteria. those are the closest bordering countries. or hunker down and hope for the best

or - seeing as they seem to be the northern 0.1% , their parents should throw money together and hire some mercenaries to evacuate them.

Hear the FG wants to take the road option to get 5,500 Nigerians out.

GloriousGbola:
The students are on their own. The rebels have control of the airport.

And this is all going down in a capital city - what is usually the last place to fall in situations like this

Evacuation will be a military operation. The level of coordination required for a successful evacuation naija special forces

Find an airstrip or landing zone. Land one of those galaxy/starlifter/hercules cargo planes there and hope it is not detected

Deploy vehicles to evacuate the students (who are not in a single location) .

Get all students safely to landing zone.

All the while trying to do this under the nose of the hostile rebel militia.

And all bets are off now because this is now oppressor on oppressor violence.

chrisooblog:
Hear the FG wants to take the road option to get 5,500 Nigerians out.

finally our much ballyhooed relationship with chad may pay off.


Chad is the only friendly nigerian neighbour that shares a border with sudan.

but the distance is very very far by road.

it is still a mess sha. a convoy of vehicles with 5500 people in them will be sitting ducks for any ambush.

edit - my bad - i was thinking of Niger and the billion naira suv purchase
we do have a relationship with chad, but i am not sure it has been greased recenetly

Sudan is an alternative for most Northern middle class who want to send their kids to get a comparable better education (read medicine). The Islamic culture there also gives them some sort of peace of mind that their ward won't be influenced negatively to turn away from muslim tenets if it were say UK or US they were sent to instead.

BlueRayDick:


But Nigerians get mind sha . Sudan has been a politically unstable country for a while now ; a country that still had military coups in 2019 and 2021 . How dem dey take dey comfortable for the country sef normally without any fear and apprehension of further instability ?

It can’t be me!

chrisooblog:
Sudan is an alternative for most Northern middle class who want to send their kids to get a comparable better education (read medicine). The Islamic culture there also gives them some sort of peace of mind that their ward won't be influenced negatively to turn away from muslim tenets if it were say UK or US they were sent to instead.

yep yep yep

khartoum for instance is where sansusi did his islamic studies degree

with a jaundiced eye, it may also for why they have been studying there in spite of all the civil war issues.

the victims/collateral damage have traditionally been unbelievers.

chrisooblog:
Sudan is an alternative for most Northern middle class who want to send their kids to get a comparable better education (read medicine). The Islamic culture there also gives them some sort of peace of mind that their ward won't be influenced negatively to turn away from muslim tenets if it were say UK or US they were sent to instead.

Hmmmm.... It's not like I don't know these things, I'm just saying personally I won’t choose a country with history of political instability for my ward irrespective of whatever culture/tenets I seek for them to imbibe .

Countries like that are just one military coup away from serious violence and u start purging as a parent each time u hear the news of fighting between different military forces in the country .

I guess everyone has their own perspectives of seeing things

Amoto94:
The same us that were complaining about profiling by the defunct SARS and the attendant consequences that followed suit sees no problem in labelling just because the tag is for others. We can pretend to be objective but our bias will always shine through, I'm not fooled and I know who my friends are.

I dont think anyone here is saying do not rescue those kids or blaming the kids for studying in Sudan due to Arabic heritage, I think what most are saying is in hindsight - knowing how uncertain the situation has been in the country they would not advise kith & kin to go study in study.
Having said that - Sudan had always had security issues - I the influx of sudanese refugees in the early 80's; so I can understand whilst people still go there.

All in All, Nigeria needs to her people out.. We should all be ing in one voice to request the govt do something speedily, humanity above Tribe.

BlaqFaze:
this evacuation issue is a sensitive one

We might end up adding to the terrorist we already have

😁😁😁

In theory I think it should because most of the dollars we use in our fx reserves for imports are directed mostly at petroleum products.

Self sufficient local refining however will be the ultimate solution at helping reduce the exchange rate in the short term.

@Ibime and other economists in the house what's your take on floating the naira? Is it a policy that any serious forward thinking government should be adopting?

Itsrm:
Will subsidy removal lead to further fall in the Naira to dollar rate? I'm thinking importers of fuel having to source for the dollar in the black market will put more pressure on the dollar.

What do you guys think?

Meanwhile Federal workers on this thread should do giveaway for the house.

BlueRayDick:


Hmmmm.... It's not like I don't know these things, I'm just saying personally I won’t choose a country with history of political instability for my ward irrespective of whatever culture/tenets I seek for them to imbibe .

Countries like that are just one military coup away from serious violence and u start purging as a parent each time u hear the news of fighting between different military forces in the country .

I guess everyone has their own perspectives of seeing things

Bros, but southern parents have not stopped their wards studying in the North nah.. Even way back when there use to be religious crisis parents still send their wards back...

I think we not too long ago sold some Innoson Proforce MRAPs to Chad so that should count in the FGs favour.

Yeah you're right the distance to the Chadian border is too long and potentially harrowing. Ethiopia still looks the best bet.

GloriousGbola:


finally our much ballyhooed relationship with chad may pay off.


Chad is the only friendly nigerian neighbour that shares a border with sudan.

but the distance is very very far by road.

it is still a mess sha. a convoy of vehicles with 5500 people in them will be sitting ducks for any ambush.

edit - my bad - i was thinking of Niger and the billion naira suv purchase
we do have a relationship with chad, but i am not sure it has been greased recenetly

Olowunl01:

Bros, but southern parents have not stopped their wards studying in the North nah.. Even way back when there use to be religious crisis parents still send their wards back...

Very few Southern parents did that then and even much fewer do so now. And they're mainly Muslim parents. So?

Olowunl01:

Bros, but southern parents have not stopped their wards studying in the North nah.. Even way back when there use to be religious crisis parents still send their wards back...

Like u don’t understand me. Growing up I’ve always watched the news and each time international news comes up they talk about “Crisis in the Dafur region “ , “ Rebel forces in southern Sudan “ , etc and they show people who are refugees in their own countries . Even now as an adult they still talk about crisis in Sudan every now and then.

From a young age I’ve known the country is a politically unstable country . I find it puzzling that as a parent I will now gather money and send my child to the country to study when it’s not like the place has suddenly become stable like Present day Rwanda . Like send my child to another country that is politically unstable for so long 🤷🏼‍♂️.

Northern Nigeria is still Nigeria . Nigeria is still our country and we have nowhere else to go . But a foreign country that I have other options? If I want my child to have Arabic Education Egypt is there na. There are other countries with more stable political climate

iamoyindamola:
Dumbo who are the obidients hailing adeleke, atleast he's doing something
Aregbe and oyetola couldn't point to something tangible as a project in osun

Don’t mind Oasis. APC people revel in other people’s real or imaginary failures cos they have no success to revel in.

BlueRayDick:


Like u don’t understand me. Growing up I’ve always watched the news and each time international news comes up they talk about “Crisis in the Dafur region “ , “ Rebel forces in southern Sudan “ , etc and they show people who are refugees in their own countries . Even now as an adult they still talk about crisis in Sudan every now and then.

From a young age I’ve known the country is a politically unstable country . I find it puzzling that as a parent I will now gather money and send my child to the country to study when it’s not like the place has suddenly become stable like Present day Rwanda . Like send my child to another country that is politically unstable for so long 🤷🏼‍♂️.

Northern Nigeria is still Nigeria . Nigeria is still our country and we have nowhere else to go . But a foreign country that I have other options? If I want my child to have Arabic Education Egypt is there na. There are other countries with more stable political climate

Don’t you see Mo Salah? Their kids will learn Haram things like Xmas celebrations 😃

Egypt is a pretty chill and liberal country tbh.

DeadPresidents:


Don’t you see Mo Salah? Their kids will learn Haram things like Xmas celebrations 😃

Egypt is a pretty chill and liberal country tbh.

Wahala 🤦‍♂️

Na to double my hustle send am go Saudi Arabia gangan be next option abi?

BlueRayDick:


Like u don’t understand me. Growing up I’ve always watched the news and each time international news comes up they talk about “Crisis in the Dafur region “ , “ Rebel forces in southern Sudan “ , etc and they show people who are refugees in their own countries . Even now as an adult they still talk about crisis in Sudan every now and then.

From a young age I’ve known the country is a politically unstable country . I find it puzzling that as a parent I will now gather money and send my child to the country to study when it’s not like the place has suddenly become stable like Present day Rwanda . Like send my child to another country that is politically unstable for so long 🤷🏼‍♂️.

Northern Nigeria is still Nigeria . Nigeria is still our country and we have nowhere else to go . But a foreign country that I have other options? If I want my child to have Arabic Education Egypt is there na. There are other countries with more stable political climate

Even for Naija here, most southerners (whether Christians or Muslims) don't like schooling or working in the North because of issues like instability and religious extremism.

The few that worked or sent their kids to school in the North were mainly Muslims, and don't be surprised that a sizeable percentage of those parents understand Hausa language.

These factors (religion and language) count a lot in times of crisis.

Most of those Nigerians in Sudan are Muslims and from the North, and it's mainly those Muslims from the North that would be willing to school in a volatile country like Sudan.

When a crisis breaks out, a northern Muslim has a higher chances of survival than a Christian from any other region.

I don't think an unbeliever (not from the US, the UK, , or other First-World countries) schooling in Sudan values their life.

Oboooooiii

BlueRayDick:


Wahala 🤦‍♂️

Na to double my hustle send am go Saudi Arabia gangan be next option abi?

i think people are kind of wary of saudi arabia because of radicalisation risk
or at the very least travel red flags

i know a one point us embassy was denying visas to people with extensive saudi visits on their ports

chrisooblog:
In theory I think it should because most of the dollars we use in our fx reserves for imports are directed mostly at petroleum products.

Self sufficient local refining however will be the ultimate solution at helping reduce the exchange rate in the short term.

@Ibime and other economists in the house what's your take on floating the naira? Is it a policy that any serious forward thinking government should be adopting?

This is the part that sometimes confuses me. Why will Dangote for instance want to sell a commodity like refined fuel that is in high demand at a cheap price in Nigeria when he can export it and sell higher?

It does seem to me like our days of importing fuel are still far from over even with Dangote coming on board.

BlueRayDick:


The first point he said “ Sudan isn’t a collapsible Banana republic you assumed it is ……it is not just what we see on CNN“. 😁

A country that fought an ethnic-religious themed civil war which lasted for 50 years is not a collapsible banana republic ?

I think we should take him literally - banana doesn't grow in that Republic due to desert conditions

Unlimited22:
Let me just say that according to what I heard, with a medical degree from Sudan, you can practice in Ireland without any exams.

Some medical students went from UK to study in Sudan, then went from Sudan to serve as medics for ISIS. So their Medical degree is OK, for UK guys to go there

Ibime:


Some medical students went from UK to study in Sudan, then went from Sudan to serve as medics for ISIS. So their Medical degree is OK, for UK guys to go there

This man you have gone full brit is all I will say.

Ibime:


I think we should take him literally - banana doesn't grow in that Republic due to desert conditions

Ibime:


Some medical students went from UK to study in Sudan, then went from Sudan to serve as medics for ISIS. So their Medical degree is OK, for UK guys to go there

What is this ?

BlueRayDick:


What is this ?

The fine art of British understatement