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A girl can have one or few body counts and she can be fucking like a pornnstar worse than a prostitute with thousands of body counts, most prostitutes give cold, boring, unenthusiastic, mechanical sex

Women are men's evolutionary weakness redpill aware or not

Caveat
Except you are full MGTOW

Your ancestors were raiding and pillaging villages, capturing and executing able bodied men, capturing and keeping women for spoils of war, acquiring land and territories, getting status, you are masturbating to porn, paying cheap prostitutes, depressed about rejection, wasting time on social media, cold approaching women wasting your time

Coward
Failure
Loser
Weak gene

Society pities women and children if they are poor and vulnerable, but spits on men and view them as trash if they poor and weak

Redpill truths is like a quarantined virus, nuclear reactor plant, should be treated with utmost caution because if it is released it would lead to uncontrollable chaos and civilization would collapse

perhaps worryingly there is an extremist fringe of mgtow that has not only sworn off women, but as they look at the world around them, at how the Patriarchy is going to sh!t replaced with a whorrin culture; they have sworn off Society as a whole. these men have lost all hope in the recovery and healing of the morals of the world and look upon everything and say "Let the world burn". they have become nihilists longing to see everything turned to dust.whether by war or revolutions or whatever.becoz the world has not been kind to them they want to see it go to dirt.they know all societies go through cycles of prosperity and affluency, followed degeneracy and sinfulness of epic proportions as sinners get Rights to practice their pervesions in peace and in public.this widespread promotion of perversions then activates that one group of people that always rises up and resets the World to Factory Settings when human corruption crosses a particular line: The Religious Zealots. true believers that stand up and burn everything to the ground.thats why all great empires start off religious and end very ungodly.coz the foundations of all empires are laid by religious groups who, disguisted by the previous empire,rose up and burnt everything to the ground.now, This nihilist fringe of mgtow knows this process very well and counts on it.they know its an unbreakable vicious repeatative sequence.good times create weak men and weak men create bad times and bad times create strong men and strong men create good times and good times create weak men and weak men create bad times; over and over again.till the end of time. its a never ending cycle that every empire from Babylon to Rome has gone thru.this nihilistic fringe of Mgtow is called The Black Pill and they long for the current degeneracy to advance faster so unrest and upheavals will tear everything down and the reset button is pressed and a new pure era begins.

Every woman has a vagina, but not every woman has something more to offer.

Never forget this

Benee1000:
For the religious guys interested in marriage or long term relationships, with religious ladies, please beware of the age long scam of their promise to fulfill all your sexual desires UNTIL after marriage. Especially the ones who claim to love you but totally avoid being sexual with you with the excuse that sex before marriage is sin. Do not fall for this seemingly upright but ultimately destructive scam, whether she's a virgin or not.

A woman's sexuality is more important than her religious beliefs when it comes to relationship & marriage.
Females are emotional beings as much as they're sexual beings, and religion doesn't change this.

A lady is a female first, before her religious beliefs.

Let me explain:

A lady who genuinely desires & is attracted to a man cannot help herself from being sexual with him, whether she's religious or not.
This genuine desire and attraction predisposes her to be in the feminine and automatically, sexual towards him.
They are incapable of controlling their lust for the man they desire, and desire, is an emotion, something felt and not intentional nor negotiated.

Have you ever wondered why sex with a lady in a highly emotional state (after a quarel, aka make up sex, or when she's excited, scared, sad and dejected, drunk, lonely etc.) is often very intense and pleasurable for her?

It's because Sex is directly proportional to a woman's emotions.

The more emotional she is, the more sexual she becomes.
The more logical or less emotional she Is, the less sexual she becomes.
The more emotionally expressive a lady is, the more sexually expressive she is (legends know this).

This is also why the easiest way to sleep with a lady is to make her Emotional.
Emotions opens up a woman sexually.
When her emotions are high, sex is not far away.

Females require emotions to enjoy sex.
And as such will seek an emotional connection with a man they're sexually attracted to.

Since desire is an emotion, and emotions opens up a woman sexually, a lady therefore can hardly control herself from being sexual with a man she genuinely desires because that desire makes her emotional, and emotions makes her sexual.

She could be a cold blooded nun to every other guy but burns hot for the man she's attracted to.
She may withhold sex for religious reasons but cannot control being sexual or romantic with him, and unless such a man can control himself, it's only a matter of time before sex happens.

Again, desire, my friends cannot be negotiated. If a lady doesn't desire you sexually, she simply doesn't, and therefore cannot attach to you emotionally.

There's always a level of emotional fulfilment and attachment in a lady when has sex with a man she sexually desires.
The strength of this attachment is strongest for the man who disvirgins her and the man who can give her earth shattering orgasms. They don't easily break up and forget this categories of men.
However, the more sexual partners a lady has had, the less the strength of this emotional attachment, and the less chance of her bonding emotionally with her next sexual partner.

A lady who is not attached to you emotionally is not a lady you want to get married to. Neither your money nor her religion can keep her loyal in such union.
This is the reason why most married women cheat, especially with their ex. They're still emotionally attached to that ex.

Moreover, sex with a lady who desires you sexually is at opposite ends to one which a lady does out of obligation.
The Former indulges her emotions, as well as her sexual fantasies, fetishes, and lustful desires, which easily takes her to the promised land (orgasm), and doesn't require stress from the man as only few minutes of penetration, or just caressing or touching her, or even just hearing his voice or seeing him, is enough to open her flood gates. It's how she feels emotionally about the guy that really matters.

The later, (obligational sex) is akin to prostitution and you go drill her hole taya before you see water, if you see at all, no matter the size of your drilling rig .
This is because it involves little to no emotions from her. She's doing it as her own duty in a business transaction. To get money or financial security from the man in return for the use of her coochie.

This is why the sex an olosho gives to a client is very different from the one she does with her boyfriend that she loves and is sexually attracted to.

For a female, sex borne out of desire (validational) is for her, to please herself, while sex due to obligation (transactional) is for the man, to please the man and get his resources in return.

Which one do you think you will enjoy more? The sex you beg or pay for and she agrees to so that peace will reign, while she barely partakes and simply lies down like a bag of beans as you pound away with a handy bottle of lubricant as drilling mud ,
or the one she looks forward to, begs you for and brings her A game so she can satisfy her sexual cravings with multiple orgasms?

The first is just like masturbating, but with a real person. The sex is like eating food to cure hunger but didn't savour the meal.

For the second, the pride, pleasure and satisfaction when a man cums after he has made the lady orgasm is on another level.
You feel like a king, the lady adores you and she feels like a Queen.
You satisfied your hunger, savoured the meal, and you look forward to the next meal.

If you are made to wait for sex, you will eventually discover that the sex was never worth the wait.
Because what you get at best after that wedding is obligatory sex, of which as soon as she gives birth to the first child, she fulfils only sparingly, because no woman really enjoys obligated sex, and that child is insurance of her financial security from you, while your obligation to provide as a man increases with each new birth.

Ever heard of women having sex time table for their husbands? This is the origin, obligation, void of desire. Desire can not be negotiated, it is spontaneous.

Moreover, since there's no emotional attachment involved in obligatory sex, the day you default on your own part of the deal (financial provision), or when she considers it insufficient, that is the day you lose your value and respect to her, including her loyalty to you.
She may not show it immediately, but with time, nagging, disrespect, disregard, sex deprivation and even cheating will creep into that marriage. she may even elope with your children sef.
Peace of mind will be very far from you, and your journey as a philosopher will be on full throttle . That is If she doesn't kill you so she can inherit your resources and go be with the man she really desires.

No man with a better past dies a simp.

So beware guys. If she demands that you must wait until after marriage for her to become sexual with you, abort mission.

Her marriage demand is not borne out of righteousness but rather a need for the security of your resources.
She's codedly offering sex in exchange for the resources that comes with your commitment.

Marrying such a lady is like marrying a prostitute, albeit a religious one, with you as the only customer, that is if she decides to be loyal to you.

Prostitution isn't about having multiple sexual partners, but wanting to be rewarded for sex. It is a mindset.

Marriage in itself, has little to do with love, it's all about resources. To make a man able for a woman and her offspring.
While this is necessary as a woman needs resources to properly cater for her offspring, a man don't need to be married to a lady to experience her love and sexual side.
That sexual side of her comes naturally when she meets a man she's genuinely attracted to.

Marriage doesn't automatically make a woman sexual towards you.

A lady who genuinely desires you won't even bring the idea of no sex without marriage to you, because
1) she would be so scared of loosing you to other ladies who wants you, especially when you're high value.
2) A lady has little to no control over her body for a man she sexually desires.
Only the man does. Only the man can determine whether sex will happen or not.

What she'd rather do if really serious about being chaste before marriage is to beg you not to take advantage of her sexually and help her keep herself whenever she's with you.
She knows she can't help it, and you only have to make the move for sex for it to happen.

Some ladies will even make the move for sex themselves, put their hope in you to resist, and will genuinely blame you when you fail to resist.

A lady who insists on a no sex before marriage most likely has other options, certainly doesn't desire you sexually, and definitely cannot attach to you emotionally.

A man who has to win a woman's affection, is already playing a lost game, and he'll pay dearly for it, when whatever won and sustained the woman's affection is no more.

A woman's affection, while very rare and priceless, comes free. It's a gift. Gifts are freely given, not bought.
However gifts are giving to those who are found worthy.

But here's the corollary;

No female proves her love for a man through sex or the promise of sex. The existence of prostitution should reveal this to you.

Sex to a lady is either for her pleasure, a service to be rendered for a price, a tool for manipulation, or a weapon for destruction.
If a lady is clever enough, all can be applied at the same time, to multiple men.

Sex is never a proof of love, neither is the offering of virginity.

Love is proven through giving and making sacrifices.
However, sexual attraction comes first, because while women can be sexually attracted to a man they don't love (their crush), they can only love a man they're sexually attracted to.

Marry a lady whose fertility is highly guaranteed (young virgin), can raise your children properly, can manage a home with the resources at both your disposal, and will be a useful companion, and not because marriage is the only way to have sex with her.

If a lady is not sexually into you, just forget about her other qualities and dey your lane.

Don't make the grave mistake many good men make by saying "she'd make a good wife cos she's a good person, and sex is not that important to me".

There's a big difference between a wife who finds you as her lover and a wife who only sees you as her husband and father of her children.
One makes a happy home irrespective of circumstances, and the other makes a peaceful home as long as you can provide.

Finally, A lady's personality and investments (financial, emotional,time, etc) in you is a better precision Instrument that should be used in your calculations to prove her worthiness for your commitment.

However, dealing with the female is a gamble. And while you can predict the odds of an outcome from your calculations to know where best to stake your commitment, nothing is guaranteed.

The only way a gambler is guaranteed not to lose is not to stake.

Relate with blue-pilled men the blue-pilled way.

but never relate with any woman the blue-pilled way because all women are naturally red-pilled.

You are the focus of your world..

Not the women.

Instead of pissing away your youth trying to ‘please’ women, why not invest that time in yourself

A woman that has been tossed from one player to another like a tennis ball cannot be stable in marriage. If she stayed long in a relationship with a "reckless" alpha/player, she will never see any good in her husband

Zabiboy:

My opinions
1) Men are on the losing side because of "Expectations" and "Ego"..
I agree with everything you said, and yes, it truly a harsh reality and that is why whenever someone indicates interest to me in doing self-development activities, I always let them know that they have to do this because it makes them happy and feel good, not because they want women to flock around them, Because "expectations" is a major cause of disappointment.

Unfortunately, most men are self-improving MAJORLY to attract the opposite sex and then when it doesnt quite work out a intended, they may see it as a total waste of time..

This is it. I, too, am taking my self-development seriously. I have a low body fat (I'd say less than 14%), I have an athletic body, I sharpen my skills, I increase my knowledge in relevant topics, I take care of my mind, I make sure I'm spiritually healthy, I don't allow bullshit from women, I don't associate with disrespectful time-and-energy-draining people, I learn wisdom, I work on my systems and goals, I have boundaries, I practice self-love and self-care, I build my wealth, etc...

BUT, I also know that NONE OF THESE THINGS WILL MAKE ANY WOMAN SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO ME IF SHE DIDN'T FOUND ME SEXUALLY ATTRACTIVE AFTER THE FIRST FEW MINUTES OF MEETING HER.

If a woman does not find me sexually attractive, she learning about my riches, achievement, my strength of mind, my masculine frame, the fact that I'm not a simp or a beta, and the fact that I know game, won't change it. At best, learning about my money, may incite her to fake attraction and submission to me in order to secure the resources (that's how a lot of men get married or finessed). I am not delusional about this. If a woman does not find me sexually attractive RIGHT NOW, becoming a USD billionaire tomorrow is not going to change it---that RAW GENUINE attraction will NEVER be there.

So, I am all for self-improvement and making money. BUT DO IT FOR YOURSELF. Don't do it with women in mind. Women don't care. Do it because you want to live your life to the fullest, because you want to give to yourself the best living conditions, because you want to give back to your family, because you want to travel, because you want to dive deep into your personal interests, because you want o understand the world better, because you want to live the best experiences that money can get you, because you want to spend your limited time on Earth in heath and peace, because you want to help people who deserve your help, etc...

I made a post related to this topic: https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/7465815/make-money-women-come-bad

For the question ( number 3 above ) My answer is simple.. Dont play the game. Know the game for sure ( so you can spot manipulations, disconnect from time-wasters and other benefits). but if you think you are at a great disadvantage, dont play the game. It sucks yes, but it then gives you that freedom to focus on other things that would make you happy, things you can actually control..

I agree. Any man would benefit from learning game. Learn this game
so that you won't be the beta women use as a safety net after her wh0ring years,
so that you won't be the simp they manipulate for resources,
so that you won't be the pathetic dude waiting forever in her friendzone while she is fvcking the men she is genuinely attracted to,
so that you won't be one of the spineless guys on her rotation,
so that you won't be the emotional slave that pander to her feelings and let her run the show,
so that you won't be any woman's toy or tool,
so that you won't be triggered by anything a woman says,
so that you won't be an easy target for women's manipulations and games,
so that you won't be a clueless bluepilled cuck who believes that women are angels who don't like sex,
so that you won't be one the fools that will spend his savings to impress "his" babe on valentine's day,
so that you won't put any woman above yourself, your wellbeing, your peace, and your goals,
so that you won't be like all these dudes who are intimidated by women and put them on a pedestal,
so that you won't waste your time with women who don't really want you,
so that you won't be the guy who foolishly believes his wife when she tells him that the kid that looks like her boss is his,
so that you can wisely filter the kind of woman you entertain and allow in your life.

But also don't be delusional and think that knowing game is going to make women attracted to you. There are a lot of guys out there with 0 game and who are having women throw themselves at them (I was one of these dudes, I had women sexually throw themselves at me, while I was broke, unathletic, and completely ignorant of game or the redpill).
Don't learn game to get women, learn game to protect yourself.

But then the next question becomes, How does he handle his sexual urges?

This is a question that deserves the highest level of attention in this space.
As we all know, handling sexual urges is NOT easy.
Since most men aren't sexually attractive enough to get women without betabuxxing (with of course some exceptions out there), most end up patronizing pr0stitutes, jerking off to p0rn, and dating and marrying women who mostly want them for money, stability, and comfort.

If only there was a sustainable and healthy way for men who don't get women's raw sexual attraction to deal with the sexual urges without simping and betabuxxing for women!
Look at women. For centuries they had to deal with not so sexually attractive men because they needed resources to live. They hated the idea of settling with not sexually attractive guys so much that they relentlessly fought for opportunities and their right to make their own money so that they won't have any use for the bottom of men anymore. Women's emancipation is in large part about not having to deal with men who don't turn them on. With her own money, she can now focus on the guy who gets her pussy wet naturally, she has much less need for a beta with money.
Can't men do something similar? Is there a way for us to get our "sexual emancipation"? So that even if we don't get women naturally we don't have to resort to humiliating and degrading practices like p0rn, pr0stitution, or betabuxxing while handling our sexual urges? (Just like women, through feminism, found a way to eliminate the need to settle for the not-so-attractive dude while handling their own financial need.)
If not, then I really don't see how men, or at least not-so-attractive men, can be "winner" is the dating mating market.
(Note that I struck "dating", because only unattractive dudes have to date/pay women to fvck them. Women only need the right time and place to fvck a guy she genuinely finds attractive, not dates need. Dating is for simps and beta males)

I would really appreciate to get the perspective of more experienced men like emmaodet, CaveAdullam, ubunja, pansophist, heartofcity12, martinez39s, luminouz, etc... on this question.

4) I actually have a theory, "95% of men would never truly know what genuine desire is".

This is actually a very good debate topic and I'm also hoping to read different opinions on it.

Yes, more debate is needed. Thank you for your input, Zaziboy. I would like to know what the others have to say as well.

Don't just learn game to get women, learn game to protect yourself

Redpill is a defense especially in these era of modernism, feminism and gynocentricism

Sex is never a proof of love, neither is the offering of virginity.

Love is proven through giving and making sacrifices

Having your child DNA confirmed is not a proof of love too

Her giving you steady supply of quality and quantity sex doesn't mean she loves you like the way you love her,the fact that she feds you enough sex is not a guarantee that she loves you so dearly. Prostitutes behaves same her having your baby and being in her feminine doesn't mean she loves you idealistically and sacrificially, her respecting you and submitting to your authority doesn't mean her genuine desire can't change, her being in a religious and conservative society doesn't mean she is innocent, or doesn't have secrets, those two checkmate her hypergamy a lot but it doesn't mean she can't fulfill her innate whoredom in secrecy

For ages men have been gaslighted to believe men are the biggest cheats, this is a big lie, women are by default having the natural abundance to enable them cheat as they please because they are the selective gender when it comes to sex, the thing is that they are naturally good at hiding their escapades and cheating

Many men worship sex and female companionship as if it were the greatest achievement in life, that it alone makes them a ‘man’.

I am always amazed at the vagina worship by young males.

Ladies love angry, stubborn and violent men, they don't like kind, friendly, romantic, weak, gentle simps

Zabiboy:

I stand to be corrected, but the 80/20 rule is actually "80% of women finding only 20% of men 'ATTRACTIVE' " not 80% Mating with 20%. I think the latter is clearly not possible as people do these things for variety of reasons ( money, connection, manipulation, satisfaction etc etc)

True.

Even for attraction. A woman can also be attracted to you for variety of reasons (money, connection, manipulation)

Men chase status to attract women

Men compete with each other, to appeal to female hypergamy

Men kill each other to secure mates

Men work in hierarchies

Men kill to protect and mateguard mates

Men innately are polygamous and want an harem

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Male on male violence is because of pussy

Boko haram, Taliban is because of konji

Pussy drives men to be productive

Religion checkmates this polygamous nature and female hypergamous nature

Sex is Amoral look at ebanga of equatorial guinea

Men are ambitious because they want to be attractive to women