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IjeBos:


It's not a good look, coercing and exploiting a country that is in the middle of a war.
In fact may seem like a tag team. Using the threat of Russian annihilation to coerce them.
Nasty work. Will leave a black eye for the US for some time to come.

Zelensky is not stupid. He'd likely give America mining concessions on Ukrainian land that Russia claims to own, thereby forcing America to defend its investments.

budaatum:


Zelensky is not stupid. He'd likely give America mining concessions on Ukrainian land that Russia claims to own, thereby forcing America to defend its investments.

You woke up today n this got into your head 😂

budaatum:


Zelensky is not stupid. He'd likely give America mining concessions on Ukrainian land that Russia claims to own, thereby forcing America to defend its investments.

Before Trump what was his game plan? To continue getting American money and giving nothing?

It begins. Kash Patel starts investigation into James Comey use of two undercover agents who infiltrated Trump 2016 campaign. He had no reason to ,was kept secret and it was meant to find dirt on his campaign.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14436163/FBI-Director-Kash-Patel-starts-purge-undercover-James-Comey-agents-infiltrated-Trumps-campaign.html

Those who say FBI is above board can now scream in horror.
Comey finances will be gobbled up by lawyers. This one leads directly to Hillary Clinton, he was obviously acting on her behest. Obama definitely knew.

*** Update.

The whistleblower agent “personally knew” that Mr. Comey ordered an FBI investigation into Mr. Trump and that Mr. Comey “personally directed it,” according to the disclosure.

The investigation did not appear to target a specific crime but was more of what agents would describe as a fishing expedition to find anything incriminating against Mr. Trump.

The whistleblower said the undercover operation was obscured from Justice Department Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz, who investigated misconduct in the bureau’s probe of the Trump campaign.

“The case had no predicated foundation, so Comey personally directed the investigation without creating an official case file in Sentinel or any other FBI system,” according to the whistleblower’s disclosure. “The FBI has multiple methods of protecting highly sensitive investigations, so Comey did not have a legitimate reason not to officially create an official investigation file or have a file number

Dirty cop.. if this was in a backwater shit hole third world dictatorship, Banks would recall any loans to Comey at the pain of foreclosures.

raumdeuter:
Then Trump gets his Nobel prize for peace

Would be amusing if he gets to share it with Zelensky or if its given to Zelensky only.

budaatum:


Zelensky is not stupid. He'd likely give America mining concessions on Ukrainian land that Russia claims to own, thereby forcing America to defend its investments.

Putin has also made a counteroffer. He wants to partner with American companies to exploit rare Earth's in Russia federation territories. That includes Russia new territories. If Trump agrees , Ukraine still owes America hundreds of billions of dollars. Trump is forcing both sides to quickly start de-escalation of war.

raumdeuter:
Before Trump what was his game plan? To continue getting American money and giving nothing?

If only. He knew he'd need allies to help build Ukraine, and they'd get favourable concessions to do so.

What bugs me is this is similar to what happened in Iraq, and what was tried in Afghanistan and failed. And a pro-Russian government in Ukraine will easily scupper any deal, and set up war between Russia and USA.

budaatum:


If only. He knew he'd need allies to help build Ukraine, and they'd get favourable concessions to do so.

What bugs me is this is similar to what happened in Iraq, and what was tried in Afghanistan and failed. And a pro-Russian government in Ukraine will easily scupper any deal, and set up war between Russia and USA.

Was any of these favorable concessions agreed before the US started pouring taxpayers money into Ukraine? Without any agreement, what stops him from refusing any concession

The US will ensure they hold Ukraine to their side of the bargain and the US keeps Russia away if not you choose one. Deal your minerals to the US or Deal with the Russians in minerals and your land/sovereignty

raumdeuter:


Was any of these favorable concessions agreed before the US started pouring taxpayers money into Ukraine? Without any agreement, what stops him from refusing any concession

The US will ensure they hold Ukraine to their side of the bargain and the US keeps Russia away if not you choose one. Deal your minerals to the US or Deal with the Russians in minerals and your land/sovereignty

Please. Its a good deal for Ukraine. America can't take all Ukraine's resources, and they'd need to be protected from Russia or Ukraine will claim breach of agreement.

They hiding the evidence and facts, and in my view, making America weak.

https://wolfstreet.com/2025/02/26/fdic-ends-disclosing-total-assets-of-banks-on-problem-bank-list-as-disclosure-might-suddenly-trigger-a-disorderly-run/

budaatum:


Zelensky is not stupid. He'd likely give America mining concessions on Ukrainian land that Russia claims to own, thereby forcing America to defend its investments.

We have to wait to see the agreement. But, Zelensky is in a corner and has little leverage.
Also, I don't see any American boots on the ground.
America doesn't generally do things like this as we don't want to be seen as exploiting people or being mercenaries.
Too transactional.
I believe the US and Ukraine would have reached a deal on minerals no matter what.
That is one of the reasons why the US/Biden thought Ukraine was strategically important.

Think about being a Ukrainian today.
How did you view Americans before Trump took over and then now?
That sentiment changes how any American on the ground will be received.

budaatum:


Please. Its a good deal for Ukraine. America can't take all Ukraine's resources, and they'd need to be protected from Russia or Ukraine will claim breach of agreement.

It was surely a good deal for Ukraine to get billions from US without promising or giving anything in return and a terrible deal for Americans

Now they give something back in form of minerals to get the American dollars. This is fair for both sides, You get protection and money, I get minerals

IjeBos:


We have to wait to see the agreement. But, Zelensky is in a corner and has little leverage.
Also, I don't see any American boots on the ground.
America doesn't generally do things like this as we don't want to be seen as exploiting people or being mercenaries.
Too transactional.
I believe the US and Ukraine would have reached a deal on minerals no matter what.
That is one of the reasons why the US/Biden thought Ukraine was strategically important.

Think about being a Ukrainian today.
How did you view Americans before Trump took over and then now?
That sentiment changes how any American on the ground will be received.

Maybe Trump cares more about what Americans think than what Ukrainians think

Before Trump, They probably will see Americans as suckers who will give that much without any guarantees
Today they will see Americans as smarter people who are making a reasonable deal not just drunk sailors throwing money away

Will Ukraine ever do that type of pre Trump deal with any country? throw money at them without anything in return?

raumdeuter:
Europe agrees to increase military presence in Ukraine and take over
Ukraine agrees minerals deal with US

Next step is to stop the war in Ukraine

Then Trump gets his Nobel prize for peace

Will they even nominate him?

descarado:

Will they even nominate him?

They probably wont, but anyone who is able to stop a 3yr war would deserve it

bemeruca:


They gave it to Obama for simply existing, trump should be on his 3rd NPP by now.


Also, the UK plans to cut foreign aid and increase defence spending. He knows what Trump is doing is popular and makes sense

I have been wondering why Obama was nominated for that in the first place.
That divisive man. Fake Kenyan man.

IjeBos:


We have to wait to see the agreement. But, Zelensky is in a corner and has little leverage.
Also, I don't see any American boots on the ground.
America doesn't generally do things like this as we don't want to be seen as exploiting people or being mercenaries.
Too transactional.
I believe the US and Ukraine would have reached a deal on minerals no matter what.
That is one of the reasons why the US/Biden thought Ukraine was strategically important.

Think about being a Ukrainian today.
How did you view Americans before Trump took over and then now?
That sentiment changes how any American on the ground will be received.

The bold is what's changed under dump. Usually, they'd go to a country and rape them, but this time are being upfront about it.

Sending American troops to Ukraine will likely turn out as sending troops to Afghanistan. Hopefully, Europe will advise on the deal.

President Trump shared what appeared to be an AI-generated video late Tuesday night depicting his vision of "the Riviera of the Middle East" if his plan to "take over the Gaza strip" comes to fruition.

Why it matters: The video recasts the enclave that's been devastated by the Israel-Hamas war as an oasis of Trump's fantasy, complete with bellydancers, a golden statue of himself and Elon Musk dancing under a shower of money.
Driving the news: The AI-generated video Trump posted on his Truth Social opens with a shot of ruins labeled "Gaza 2025" and set to a dance track.

The video then asks "what's next?" before segueing into idyllic visions of children running on a beach, skyscrapers, cruise ships and a rebuilt city — as what sounds like an AI-generated voice sings, "no more tunnels, no more fear, Trump Gaza is finally here."
Zoom in: The bizarre images in the video include:

Bearded men belly dancing on a beach;
Elon Musk eating what appears to be hummus on the beach, followed later of a shot of him dancing on the beach as U.S. dollars rain down;
Trump, dancing with a scantily-clad woman in a club;
A skyscraper emblazoned with "Trump Gaza" in golden letters;
A toddler holding a large, golden balloon of Trump's head;
A shot of Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in swim trunks sipping drinks at a poolside resort.
The big picture: Trump said earlier this month that his takeover plan would entail a "permanent occupation" of Gaza by the U.S. that would see Palestinians displaced with no right of return, a plan that would violate international law.

Nobel peace prize? That must be what he’s aiming for by sharing that bizarre AI generated video of himself in Gaza. Calling it Trump Gaza. With A golden statue of himself in the center. Him and Elon dancing with ai generated women and money raining on them.

Every hour it’s one embarrassing thing or the other.

raumdeuter:


Before Trump, They probably will see Americans as suckers who will give that much without any guarantees
Today they will see Americans as smarter people who are making a reasonable deal not just drunk sailors throwing money away

Will Ukraine ever do that type of pre Trump deal with any country? throw money at them without anything in return?

Again very childish, immature and muddled understanding of Ukraine Funding and International Relations.

Some of the funding was loans that were repayable and a large portion went to the US to make US weapons,which was basically aid to US companies and US states making those weapons (largely Republican).
The US generally doesn't do anything without a selfish motivation.
I wrote many times that part of the reason the US was ing Ukraine because of the minerals and grain and to keep them away from Russia.
The US was always going to make a deal re: minerals. But they would have done it without seeming to betray them and still keeping their goodwill.

You should probably read a book or two.
You have such childish thinking on this stuff.

raumdeuter:


They probably wont, but anyone who is able to stop a 3yr war would deserve it

I had a bet he will be nominated during his first term.
Never in the history of usa had there been a world without war during a any presidency. All the Arabs came together for the first term.

Trump may be brutal and radical in his approach to things but the most important thing which the world needs most and he got it 100% was world peace.
Just like when obasanjo handed over to civilian rule 1979. Any other thing is secondary in the book of record in Nigeria during that time.

Trump’s tenure was recognised by world peace but hateful Americans don't like world peace.
He's stopping war in Ukraine,some are mad.
Mad that it's not their loved ones that are victims of this war. A single picture of a maimed farmer somewhere in Nigeria that I saw have been haunting me everyday. The niece of the farmer who is here in uk is working her ass off to raise money to send him to India. She is undergoing therapy yet she was not the sick one. She is so stressed. Have 2 very young kids. Everybody is waiting on her. She is in nigeria as i type. Those that have never seen the effect of war have guts to say something against this.
Some people have the sadist gene in their dna
Good grammar do not save lives. Life should be precious. Egos of human has destroyed this world.

cococandy:


Nobel peace prize? That must be what he’s aiming for by sharing that bizarre AI generated video of himself in Gaza. Calling it Trump Gaza. With A golden statue of himself in the center. Him and Elon dancing with ai generated women and money raining on them.

Every hour it’s one embarrassing thing or the other.

Insanity.
I don't think it's possible to understate the propaganda value in this for those who hate the US.
He really wants this to happen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PslOp883rfI

I'm not her fan, but she's raised a point.

This deal will have to include getting Ukrainian land back or its a no deal.

IjeBos:


Again very childish, immature and muddled understanding of Ukraine Funding and International Relations.

Some of the funding was loans that were repayable and a large portion went to the US to make US weapons,which was basically aid to US companies and US states making those weapons (largely Republican).
The US generally doesn't do anything without a selfish motivation.
I wrote many times that part of the reason the US was ing Ukraine because of the minerals and grain and to keep them away from Russia.
The US was always going to make a deal re: minerals. But they would have done it without seeming to betray them and still keeping their goodwill.

You should probably read a book or two.
You have such childish thinking on this stuff.

How much has US given in money and ammunition and how much of it is payable back by Ukraine?

You are too dumb to understand international politics anyway, Now the Ukrainian president is coming to sign the mineral deal with the US which the Biden never though they should have rather just throw money out like drunk sailors

You have such a morronic way of thinking and its affecting your entire life

Yep. It’s not propaganda. It’s what he wants.

Personal enrichment for himself and his friends at the expense of the people who own the land.

IjeBos:


Insanity.
I don't think it's possible to understate the propaganda value in this for those who hate the US.
He really wants this to happen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PslOp883rfI

IjeBos:


Insanity.
I don't think it's possible to understate the propaganda value in this for those who hate the US.
He really wants this to happen.

Before the video, those who hate US, did they hate us any less? And its even stupid (not like anyone here is surprised that you consistently post stupid stuffs) to think an AI generated video is what will make people hate America

if the Arab nations dont want the video to happen, then they should step up and secure Gaza

descarado:
Trump may be brutal and radical in his approach to things but the most important thing which the world needs most and he got it 100% was world peace.

I don't know what peace you expect me to get if I come into your house and occupy part of it and refuse to leave, but perhaps that's okay with you.

Just be prepared for when I start charging you rent and order you to pay to repair your house please so its safe for me to occupy.

cococandy:


Nobel peace prize? That must be what he’s aiming for by sharing that bizarre AI generated video of himself in Gaza. Calling it Trump Gaza. With A golden statue of himself in the center. Him and Elon dancing with ai generated women and money raining on them.

Every hour it’s one embarrassing thing or the other.

Trump strongly deserve a peace Nobel peace.
He doesn't merit it, who said so?
Democrats?
Under what criteria actually.
If Obama that didn't do anything but caused chaos can get it, wonder why Trump can't or is it the democrats controlled media narratives again.
Everything that Trump do is bad.



And oh, I think you personally have a personal vendetta against trump.
Care to share.



I have been sharing my vendetta against Obama since with africal as the focal point. Biden, I don't care about him at all.
I

descarado:


I have been wondering why Obama was nominated for that in the first place.
That divisive man. Fake Kenyan man.

For existing as a black US president that's it.

budaatum:


I don't know what peace you expect me to get if I come into your house and occupy part of it and refuse to leave, but perhaps that's okay with you.

Just be prepared for when I start charging you rent and order you to pay to repair your house please so its safe for me to occupy.

Explain yourself. Don't want to have a wrong assumption.

bemeruca:


For existing as a black US president that's it.

Obama was nominated 9months into his presidency

It's not like we've not been here before.

Parallels with the past
Unlike the men in the forest on the Kursk border, they follow the news. Donald Trump's diplomatic and strategic bombshells, starting at the Munich security conference only 10 days ago, reminds them of the infamous deal Britain's prime minister Neville Chamberlain made at Munich in 1938, forcing Czechoslovakia to capitulate to the demands made by Adolf Hitler.

"It's similar," Maxsym said. "The West gives an aggressor an opportunity to occupy some territories. The West is making a deal with the aggressor, with the United States in the role of Great Britain."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2xngznyego

Zelensky might need to hold elections before he can sign this American deal, or risk it being called unconstitutional after he leaves office.

bemeruca:


For existing as a black US president that's it.

Which black American president.
Who dash am that?

Fake man. Everything about that man is fake.


During that election,we cheered and cheered. We were wild with excitement.
The guilt of what he did in Libya was so much he confessed it was his biggest mistake. The aftermath of what happened in Libya is what we are suffering from now. With presidents that worshipped him, bokoharam and radical conquest using religion in Nigeria wouldn't have been a thing.

We all are first generation immigrants to whichever country we are so whether we like it or not, Nigeria is still our country.
If it's good, we can at least go there for holiday.