NewStats: 3,264,404 , 8,183,621 topics. Date: Tuesday, 10 June 2025 at 10:36 PM 2d5sx

Katsumoto:

If you and other Igbo people accept that Nzeogwu was Igbo, then it is disingenuous on the part of those Igbo people who claim he is from the mid-west just because they want to reduce Igbo complicity in the coup. The fact is that, he was Igbo and that should be the end of it.

I am not referring to any thread; my response is predicated on Afam's postulation. Please read Afam's statement again.

I may have been vindicated by this thread. I stated that Kaduna Chukwuma Nzeogwu was from the East in order to the point that the Northerners believed that the 1966 coup was lead by an Igbo man, and in their minds, it was a Igbo coup. Afam jumped all over the statement claiming that my statement was a blatant lie design to distort history. Even after I accepted, for the purposes of the discussion, that Nzeogwu was not from the East, Afam continued to state that I told an intentional lie while continuing to ignore the main point I was trying to make.

It now turns out that fellow Igbos claim Nzeogwu is Igbo, exposing the hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty in Afam's rants. Your statement that some Igbo people claim Nzeogwu is from the mid-west just because they want to reduce Igbo complicity in the coup, is spot on. Wonders shall never end.

I hope Afam can dispute the claims of asha80 that Nzeogwu is Igbo to redeem himself.

Katsumoto:

If my memory serves me correctly, Azikiwe had an alliance with the North for the first republic. How did that alliance end? Was the alliance with the Yoruba(AG). Do you speak for all Igbo people? I don't think so. You are entitled to your own wishes but if the majority of Igbo people decide to form an alliance with Yoruba people, there is nothing YOU can do about it.

Besides, the politics of the 60s are no more with us. Nigeria no longer plays regional politics. If your alliance refers to the hypothetical scenario involving the break up of Nigeria, then Yoruba will be fine regardless of any alliance. How fickle minded are you? Are you so easily swayed that you allowed yourself to be influenced by comments on NL? Anyway, that is your prerogative.

I never dreamed I was speaking for Igbo people. I know for sure that I am speaking for myself as an Igbo person, and I thank you for acknowledging my right to do so. You are quick to take offense when attacked, but you feign innocence when attacking others. Typical. I deliberately decided to ignore your attacks; don't misunderstand that . . .  I won't say it again.
The funny thing about Nigeria of today is that it amazes me how things are remarkably similar to the events of 1964-1966.

Some people have decided to throw the country into a crisis, every concerned friend of Nigeria is warning about it, but the lords of Nigeria go about their business as if nothing is wrong. Why? Because they know that NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. So, my advise to Ndigbo -wait this one out, don't ever stick your neck out even if heavens fall. This is actually the time to go home, sit down and think. Nigeria's history has shown us whom the enemy is (at least for us Ndigbo). This is another opportunity to make decisions that will determine the well being of our children. Let's not blow it by making the same mistake again. A northern Christian is a better ally than some southern Christians. We must make those moves deliberately and calculatedly. Any alliance in the South minus the Yoruba is fine by me.

ndu_chucks:

I may have been vindicated by this thread. I stated that Kaduna Chukwuma Nzeogwu was from the East in order to the point that the Northerners believed that the 1966 coup was lead by an Igbo man, and in their minds, it was a Igbo coup. Afam jumped all over the statement claiming that my statement was a blatant lie design to distort history. Even after I accepted, for the purposes of the discussion, that Nzeogwu was not from the East, Afam continued to state that I told an intentional lie while continuing to ignore the main point I was trying to make.

It now turns out that fellow Igbos claim Nzeogwu is Igbo, exposing the hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty in Afam's rants. Your statement that some Igbo people claim Nzeogwu is from the mid-west just because they want to reduce Igbo complicity in the coup, is spot on. Wonders shall never end.

I hope Afam can dispute the claims of asha80 that Nzeogwu is Igbo to redeem himself.

Sorry you don't know the difference between being Igbo and being from the South-East? Kaduna Nzeogwu is a non-South East Igbo.

Just like you have non South West Yorubas in Kwara State

Kaduna Nzeogwu is an Igbo man from present day South South

ndu_chucks:

I may have been vindicated by this thread. I stated that Kaduna Chukwuma Nzeogwu was from the East in order to the point that the Northerners believed that the 1966 coup was lead by an Igbo man, and in their minds, it was a Igbo coup.  Afam jumped all over the statement claiming that my statement was a blatant lie design to distort history.  Even after I accepted, for the purposes of the discussion, that Nzeogwu was not from the East, Afam continued to state that I told an intentional lie while continuing to ignore the main point I was trying to make.

It now turns out that fellow Igbos claim Nzeogwu is Igbo, exposing the hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty in Afam's rants. Your statement that some Igbo people claim Nzeogwu  is from the mid-west just because they want to reduce Igbo complicity in the coup, is spot on. Wonders shall never end.

I hope Afam can dispute the claims of asha80 that Nzeogwu is Igbo to redeem himself.

ndu_chucks, will you then explain to dayokanu that there is nothing like south south as far as the coup of Jan 1966 is concerned? If you are honest, you would tell dayokanu that Nzeogwu was an Igboman from the current south south. So, if he was from south south, how could dayokanu claim he killed a fellow south south man to further Igbo agenda? If that is true, can't you see how idiotic south south sounds in that coup?

They call him(Nzeogwu) igbo but if Igbos want to include that Nzeogwu's home town as a Biafran territory they will shout Biafra want to occupy Nigerian territory.
The are Igbo in a bad situation but Nigeria or Niger delta when it suits them(Nigerians).

The chicken will soon come home to roast.

mikeansy:

Sorry you don't know the difference between being Igbo and being from the South-East? Kaduna Nzeogwu is a non-South East Igbo.

Just like you have non South West Yorubas in Kwara State

Thanks mikeansy. The bottom line is that Nzeogwu, who led the 1966 coup was an Igbo man.  This fact simply buttresses the point I was trying to make regarding perceptions of Northerners after the coup.

Onlytruth:

ndu_chucks, will you then explain to dayokanu that there is nothing like south south as far as the coup of Jan 1966 is concerned? If you are honest, you would tell dayokanu that Nzeogwu was an Igboman from the current south south. So, if he was from south south, how could dayokanu claim he killed a fellow south south man to further Igbo agenda? If that is true, can't you see how idiotic south south sounds in that coup?

South South as a region or term did not exist in the 1960s. It is naive at best and mischievous at worst to use that term to make or buttress any point. Okotie-Eboh was Itsekiri while Nzeogwu was Igbo; including them in a contraption that was not present during their time does not help your argument nor will it make them the same tribe. Forget Dayokanu's assertion, there was no South South during that era.

ndu_chucks:

Thanks mikeansy. The bottom line is that Nzeogwu, who led the 1966 coup was an Igbo man.  This fact simply buttresses the point I was trying to make regarding perceptions of Northerners after the coup.

Ifeajuna was the leader of the coup; Nzeogwu was invited when the planning was at an advanced stage. While Nzeogwu completed his objectives, Ifeajuna and others in Lagos did not complete theirs. This situation led to people concluding that Nzeogwu was the leader. Other parts of your statement are correct.

Katsumoto:

Ifeajuna was the leader of the coup; Nzeogwu was invited when the planning was at an advanced stage. While Nzeogwu completed his objectives, Ifeajuna and others in Lagos did not complete theirs. This situation led to people concluding that Nzeogwu was the leader. Other parts of your statement are correct.

Technically you are correct. For us, Ifeajuna was less of a leader at the time the coup was executed because as you stated, Nzeogwu completed his objectives while Ifeajuna did not. Thanks for the information.

@Onlytruth, Katsumoto has done justice to your request.

Na wa. . what hopes do we have of breaking the North like I propose

you can still break the north.

After all mars is being checked out to see if its fit for human habitation.

anything's possible if you just believe.




This is for you doyin:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8OpsPok6iQ

You've got strength of the soul, bro

The Ijaw will not be happy by this new turn of events.

This is like a Soap Opera.

how did this thread turn into an argument about biafra?
You guys are obsessed.

This thread is not about Biafra but it will be foolish to discuss it without discussing the events that led to Biafra and the roles played by various groups in Nigeria. If the north must be broken, that implies that there is a south to do the breaking, right? There is no south. The south died in 1967.

It was Archimedes who said "give me a place to stand and I will move the earth". Where will you stand to break northern Nigeria? A one legged man cannot make a good wrestler.

Katsumoto:

Ifeajuna was the leader of the coup. Nzeogwu was recruited at an advanced stage of the planning. Why is it that Igbo people claim Anioma Igbos as Igbo but always refer to Nzeogwu as a mid-westerner?

We have debated this issue several times.

Debating something several times does not prove that you have been proven right or wrong.

I have a lot of respect for but if you start twisting issues deliberately or out of ignorance I will respond to you the way you ought to be addressed.

Have I ever denied the fact that Nzeogwu was Igbo? Did you conveniently ignore the reason for my post which was a direct response to the comment by dayokanu that the Igbos killed someone from South South even when Nzeogwu came from the same area the person he was accused of killing came from - Mid West (there was nothing like South South then).

You either argue intelligently with an open mind or tow the line of some ethnic bigots here, the choice is yours.

ndu_chucks:

I may have been vindicated by this thread. I stated that Kaduna Chukwuma Nzeogwu was from the East in order to the point that the Northerners believed that the 1966 coup was lead by an Igbo man, and in their minds, it was a Igbo coup.  Afam jumped all over the statement claiming that my statement was a blatant lie design to distort history.  Even after I accepted, for the purposes of the discussion, that Nzeogwu was not from the East, Afam continued to state that I told an intentional lie while continuing to ignore the main point I was trying to make.

It now turns out that fellow Igbos claim Nzeogwu is Igbo, exposing the hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty in Afam's rants. Your statement that some Igbo people claim Nzeogwu  is from the mid-west just because they want to reduce Igbo complicity in the coup, is spot on. Wonders shall never end.

I hope Afam can dispute the claims of asha80 that Nzeogwu is Igbo to redeem himself.

Have I ever stated that Nzeogwu was not Igbo? Your stupidity knows no bounds at all.

To refresh your memory you told a lie that Nzeogwu was from the Eastern region and even when people corrected your lie you foolishly chipped in that as at that time the Mid West was deemed to be Eastern region! How silly can a thought process be?

In case the discussion is way beyond your assimilation level let me break it down for you again

Nzeogwu na Igbo man, na from present day Delta state hin come from. Dat time wey the first coup happen na Mid West dem dey call hin place no be Eastern region. Na why Biafra no include Mid West for the map as Biafra been dey represent the former Eastern region.

Anyone can translate the above into Hausa so that this clown can understand the facts as I now believe that something serious must be done in the area of education in the North if we must hope for any form of intelligent or intellectual discussion.

I am tired of people shamelessly displaying their ignorance on a public forum like this.

Well, the truth is that, from my experience with my follow southerners, I've come to realize that, whenever it concerns onye Igbo, other southerners grow fangs and claws as if Ndi-Igbo are the cause of there miseries but cower whenever it pertains to a Northerner. An Ijaw man will fight verbally with onye Igbo displaying an inherent hatred and distorted orientation while the Northerners syphon their money to build Abuja, kaduna, Kano and other cities and towns where cattles use their solidly built roads wheres the Ijaws are subjected to abject poverty. Same with the other South South tribes. Yorubas, on the other hand, are naturally untrusthworthy but their problems with Ndi-Igbo stem from mere jealosy and envy due to the fact that Ndi-Igbo refused to be just £20 rich.

The British are the most useless people in the whole milky way galaxy, the knew what they were doing when they set up the Nigerian project to fail, they perfectly ubderstand the mentality of the different ethnic groups, Nigeria will fail eventually that is what our so called colonial masters set out for it in the first place. The North is playing according to script. Let the break up start and lets save ourselves the stress.

@dayo13,

Mission accomplished?

You may have to seek for more rewarding ventures, this one has collapsed
as usual.

As the sayiing, No weapon fashioned against me shall-------

There is this cliche about the dog licking its b-a-l-l-s instead of being idle,

Maybe you should try it and tell me how it feels.

[quote ]
My argument is not for a breakup of the country. My argument is actually
for us to stop the instinctive tendency to divide the country into an imaginary
North and South.

There are states in the ''North'' that have lost and still have as much to lose
based on this mythical division. If we can get states especially the middle belt
states to the side of the ''south'', then we can constitutionally shape the country
that best serves our needs.
[quote][/quote]

Who are we? Serve your needs? What needs?

Do you think you are better than the Hausa people?

Afam:

Debating something several times does not prove that you have been proven right or wrong.

I have a lot of respect for but if you start twisting issues deliberately or out of ignorance I will respond to you the way you ought to be addressed.

Have I ever denied the fact that Nzeogwu was Igbo? Did you conveniently ignore the reason for my post which was a direct response to the comment by dayokanu that the Igbos killed someone from South South even when Nzeogwu came from the same area the person he was accused of killing came from - Mid West (there was nothing like South South then).

You either argue intelligently with an open mind or tow the line of some ethnic bigots here, the choice is yours.


Have I ever stated that Nzeogwu was not Igbo? Your stupidity knows no bounds at all.

To refresh your memory you told a lie that Nzeogwu was from the Eastern region and even when people corrected your lie you foolishly chipped in that as at that time the Mid West was deemed to be Eastern region! How silly can a thought process be?

In case the discussion is way beyond your assimilation level let me break it down for you again

Nzeogwu na Igbo man, na from present day Delta state hin come from. Dat time wey the first coup happen na Mid West dem dey call hin place no be Eastern region. Na why Biafra no include Mid West for the map as Biafra been dey represent the former Eastern region.

Anyone can translate the above into Hausa so that this clown can understand the facts as I now believe that something serious must be done in the area of education in the North if we must hope for any form of intelligent or intellectual discussion.

I am tired of people shamelessly displaying their ignorance on a public forum like this.

Afam,
Read your first post again (which I have posted below) and understand why I responded the way I did. If you accept that Nzeogwu was Igbo, what was the point of stating he was from the same region as Okotie-Eboh when we all know that they were from different tribes and the core of coup plotters on January 1966 was Igbo? Also why claim he was the leader when it is well documented that Ifeajuna was the leader. The point that Dayokanu was trying to make was that Okotie-Eboh, like most of the victims of the coup, was not Igbo. Afterall, no one accused the Efik or Ibibio (even though they were later caught in the cross-fire) of master-minding the coup even though they were from the old Eastern region. The accusation was not levelled against Easterners but against Igbo.

I do not understand your exasperation and use of caustic words. Let us continue to debate issues without a condescending manner and attitude. If individuals are wrong about details, then there is nothing wrong with correcting them. That is the purpose of the forum; it also gives all posters and readers the opportunity to learn in the process. There is no need to get annoyed when someone posts wrong information. If we all get upset and resort to insults every time we post or correct someone, then the spirit of intelligent discourse will be lost in petty squabbling and name calling.

Afam:

Thanks for your post but why did you now claim that the Finance minister was from the South South when indeed he was from the same region the leader of that coup came from - Mid Western region?

There was a Yoruba man amongst the coup plotters and if it was an Igbo coup then the likes of Ironsi and Ojukwu wouldn't have crushed the coup.

Any other questions?

Afam:

Nzeogwu na Igbo man, na from present day Delta state hin come from. Dat time wey the first coup happen na Mid West dem dey call hin place no be Eastern region. Na why Biafra no include Mid West for the map as Biafra been dey represent the former Eastern region.

Your intellectual dishonesty is appalling. You were running arround that thread like a crazy market woman accusing me of lying even after I accepted the fact you pointed out. It is as clear as a whistle that your aim was to reduce Igbo complicity in the coup. That is your right, continue to do that at every opportunity you have - the truth will always be exposed.

Katsumoto:

Afam,
Read your first post again (which I have posted below) and understand why I responded the way I did. If you accept that Nzeogwu was Igbo, what was the point of stating he was from the same region as Okotie-Eboh when we all know that they were from different tribes and the core of coup plotters on January 1966 was Igbo? Also why claim he was the leader when it is well documented that Ifeajuna was the leader. The point that Dayokanu was trying to make was that Okotie-Eboh, like most of the victims of the coup, was not Igbo. Afterall, no one accused the Efik or Ibibio (even though they were later caught in the cross-fire)  of master-minding the coup even though they were from the old Eastern region. The accusation was not levelled against Easterners but against Igbo.

I do not understand your exasperation and use of caustic words. Let us continue to debate issues without a condescending manner and attitude. If individuals are wrong about details, then there is nothing wrong with correcting them. That is the purpose of the forum; it also gives all posters and readers the opportunity to learn in the process. There is no need to get annoyed when someone posts wrong information. If we all get upset and resort to insults every time we post or correct someone, then the spirit of intelligent discourse will be lost in petty squabbling and name calling.

I am sure my posts are usually very clear and unambiguous. You can hide under the banner of decent communication to lies against another tribe if you like. This you have done severally and it seems there is no end in sight for you on this unfortunate route.

I will not waste my time addressing some of the issues you raised based on some mindsets you have, it is within your right to have them but you cannot force anyone to agree with them especially when facts do not favor them.

Anyone that posts wrong information in order to justify the killing of innocent Igbo people based on the actions of a few Igbo people in the Army (who organised a coup with participants from every region of the country at different levels even though 2 Igbos sons Ojukwu and Ironsi foiled the same coup) who did not have the mandate of the Igbos is a big fool and to expect others to correct such misinformation or outright lies all in the name of having a debate is another stupid belief.

Assuming these liars are making mistakes then why can't they look for facts or do some research before making categorical statements here while people like you continue to defend them because you what they say no matter how wrong they are?

Maybe your were brought up to spend your whole life correcting people who lie against you and your people even if it means justifying the murder of your own people for things they did not in any way contribute to. I was not brought up that way and don't attempt to even advise me to tow that line please.

You see nothing wrong with ethnic or tribal motivated lies but see everything wrong with caustic words being used to address such liars.

As at the time of the coup in question both Nzeogwu and the finance minister were from the same region. A fact that none of you can change but will happily twist to mean other things.

ndu_chucks:

Your intellectual dishonesty is appalling. You were running arround that thread like a crazy market woman accusing me of lying even after I accepted the fact you pointed out. It is as clear as a whistle that your aim was to reduce Igbo complicity in the coup. That is your right, continue to do that at every opportunity you have - the truth will always be exposed.

Your accepting the fact I pointed out was not a condition for me to stop accusing you of being a liar because you tried to the lie with another lie when challenged. You tried justifying your lie with "Mid West was deemed to be Eastern region at that time" before the facts overwhelmed you.

You simply had no choice as the lie was too embarrassing that not accepting the correction would have amounted to "forum suicide" so don't tyry to come across as someone who merely made a mistake.

You remain a liar who is also deceitful by using an Igbo name as a name even when you claim to be a Northerner. In fact, you repulse me, zero integrity and shameless.

Afam:

You remain a liar who is also deceitful by using an Igbo name as a name even when you claim to be a Northerner.

Afam, I've always stated that I'm a Nigerian, you can continue to believe what you wish regarding my state or tribe. I'd suggest that you focus on issues instead of tribes or states of origin, bigotery is never helpful. I know you are a stubborn person who needs his ego massaged to feel important. Just note that you will be called to order whenever you are found running arround loose in the village, olodo.

ndu_chucks:

Afam, I've always stated that I'm a Nigerian, you can continue to believe what you wish regarding my state or tribe. I'd suggest that you focus on issues instead of tribes or states of origin, bigotery is never helpful. I know you are a stubborn person who needs his ego massaged to feel important. Just note that you will be called to order whenever you are found running arround loose in the village, olodo.

At least I have never lied against any tribe (as you do most of the time) neither have I ever insulted any tribe here based on the actions of a few (like you do) let alone justify the massacre of innocent people based on what they did not do (as you have shamelessly done time and time again).

So, you see we are miles apart when it comes to debating issues and that is what I have been doing - pointing out your lies so that the issues will not be tainted by them.

Katsumuto school na good thing o, biko go school

being a midwesterner is not a tribe, so yes nzeogwu was a midwesterner doesnt mean he wasnt igbo, although i believe regional naming was done to further the political agenda of some groups.

Is Rivers state no considered south south? But the governor is rotimi chibuike amaechi, he is not an easterner but a south south guy who is also igbo.

Okocha no be igbo guy? But he is a south south guy cos he is from delta state,

Even kwara wey historically na yoruba land, saraki is a member of arewa forum and threads the line of the north cos that is his region even though we know he is yoruba

Why must every thread by monopolised by the pro and anti Biafrans? Can't you all just create your own thread?

Anyways, Doyin13, this is perfect time to test the mettle of the so called Mid Belt politicians, Will they be short sighted and cow tow to the Core Northern cabal as headed by Turai or will they take a longer view and with the interested Southern parties and wrest power away from the destructive North?

With that said, who will be the brave enough to make such overtures to the mid beltters? Would it be the Igbo or Yoruba? Say what you will, as a political bloc, the South South alone is not strong enough to mount a meaningful challenge to the Turai led cabal. The Igbo and the Yoruba do need to bridge their differences, politically, the Yoruba are slightly stronger than the Igbo, because the seem to have more influential individuals, but even with that said, the influences they may have is not being adequately harnessed.

I do not see why Clarke, Ojukwu, Tinubu (or whomever) hold clandestine meetings about how to proceed,

igbo boy:

Katsumuto school na good thing o, biko go school

being a midwesterner is not a tribe, so yes nzeogwu was a midwesterner doesnt mean he wasnt igbo, although i believe regional naming was done to further the political agenda of some groups.

Is Rivers state no considered south south? But the governor is rotimi chibuike amaechi, he is not an easterner but a south south guy who is also igbo.

Okocha no be igbo guy? But he is a south south guy cos he is from delta state,

Even kwara wey historically na yoruba land, saraki is a member of arewa forum and threads the line of the north cos that is his region even though we know he is yoruba

What has school got to do with this? Do they teach anyone about the civil war in the four walls of any school (except maybe the military)? Do you know the level of my education and the pedigree of the schools I attended? If you do not know, then I suggest you leave it out of the discussion.

What as South South got to do with the debate? Was there a South South region in the 60s? Did I in anyway argue for geographical differentiation? Was my point not that Nzeogwu was an Igbo guy regardless of boundaries. Let us stick to cogent analysis.

Katsumoto:

What has school got to do with this? Do they teach anyone about the civil war in the four walls of any school (except maybe the military)? Do you know the level of my education and the pedigree of the schools I attended? If you do not know, then I suggest you leave it out of the discussion.

What as South South got to do with the debate? Was there a South South region in the 60s? Did I in anyway argue for geographical differentiation? Was my point not that Nzeogwu was an Igbo guy regardless of boundaries. Let us stick to cogent analysis.

guy no act like say na u go school , bone o cos if na that one i hold my own no be say come chop,

Nzeogwu was a bloody igbo indeed and whats your point?

It is impossible to sincerely discuss Nigeria's fundamental problems without talking about Biafra!

As long as those who desire to seek a way forward for Nigeria continue to avoid the topic of Biafra, Nigeria will never move forward.

While the aimless dance to nothingness is dramatized, the pretenders and charlatans will continue to grow fat from their thieving ways, and the dreamers and philosophers will abandon their dreams and philosophies about a polity rigged to fail!

Afam:

I am sure my posts are usually very clear and unambiguous. You can hide under the banner of decent communication to lies against another tribe if you like. This you have done severally and it seems there is no end in sight for you on this unfortunate route.

I will not waste my time addressing some of the issues you raised based on some mindsets you have, it is within your right to have them but you cannot force anyone to agree with them especially when facts do not favor them.

Anyone that posts wrong information in order to justify the killing of innocent Igbo people based on the actions of a few Igbo people in the Army (who organised a coup with participants from every region of the country at different levels even though 2 Igbos sons Ojukwu and Ironsi foiled the same coup) who did not have the mandate of the Igbos is a big fool and to expect others to correct such misinformation or outright lies all in the name of having a debate is another silly belief.

Assuming these liars are making mistakes then why can't they look for facts or do some research before making categorical statements here while people like you continue to defend them because you what they say no matter how wrong they are?

Maybe your were brought up to spend your whole life correcting people who lie against you and your people even if it means justifying the murder of your own people for things they did not in any way contribute to. I was not brought up that way and don't attempt to even advise me to tow that line please.

You see nothing wrong with ethnic or tribal motivated lies but see everything wrong with caustic words being used to address such liars.

As at the time of the coup in question both Nzeogwu and the finance minister were from the same region. A fact that none of you can change but will happily twist to mean other things.

So are you here to debate only with those who agree with you and who share the same historical point of view? Where in my posts or anywhere in this thread did anyone discuss the killing of innocent people or make excuses for the said killing? Lets stick to the point in dispute. The reason there is conflict and disagreement in the world is because people share different points of view. That people do not share the same point of view as you does not make them liars. As far as you are concerned, it was not an Igbo coup because Nzeogwu was from the mid-west (ignoring that he was Igbo) and the coup was suppressed by two Igbo sons. As far as others are concerned, 8 out of 9 coup plotters were Igbo and they murdered politicians and military men of other tribes. They are two different points of view. I have a different point of view but I don't want to digress any further.

If and when there is ever a commission to discuss the issues of the 60s, do you expect the other sides to just accept your argument? Everyone will put up their arguments. I was brought up to respect other people's opinions even if that opinion is contrary to mine. I believe in intelligent discourse and I will not get exasperated or tired of challenging opinions or inaccuracies (i don't see them as lies) when they are put forward if I have reasons to. Its called a debating a point. I can not stop you from calling others liars if they disagree with you; you are an adult and you can do as you please. I apologise if you think I was mandating you to toe a particular line. I just think we should debate issues without insults and name-calling.

As at the time of the coup both Nzeogwu and Okotie-Eboh were from the mid-west region but they were also from different tribes, Okotie-Eboh was Itsekiri while Nzeogwu was Igbo.

AfroCynic:

Why must every thread by monopolised by the pro and anti Biafrans? Can't you all just create your own thread?

I do not see why Clarke, Ojukwu, Tinubu (or whomever) hold clandestine meetings about how to proceed,

Please read the thread from the start and respond accordingly, no need making general statements. If some individuals feel the need to raise certain points which they feel is necessary to buttress an argument, should those of contrary opinions not respond?

@Katsumoto

kindly answer this simple question

if the 1966 coup was an Igbo agenda why would it be foiled by 2 Igbo men, Ojukwu and Ironsi

igbo boy:

guy no act like say na u go school , bone o cos if na that one i hold my own no be say come chop,

Nzeogwu was a bloody igbo indeed and whats your point?

Are you able to read? You brought up the issue of school, I responded appropriately and you are talking about who go school . Did you read in my post that I claimed to be more educated than you?

My point was that Nzeogwu was Igbo regardless of geographical boundaries. If you read and analyse accurately from my very first post, you will observe that was the point I was making.