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TheGoodJoe(m): 7:50pm On Mar 01
MetalJigsaw:
I've got a heated argument here guys.. Yaya Toure or Okocha

No comparison. Yaya Toure is one of the greatest players I ever saw play football. There is no comparison.

Yaya Toure is in my top 10 footballers of all time. Okocha is in not my Top 20.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W-OQUzQay0

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charlesemeka85(m): 7:50pm On Mar 01
Billing equalises for Naples

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charlesemeka85(m): 7:51pm On Mar 01
TheGoodJoe:


No comparison. Yaya Toure is one of the greatest players I ever saw play football. There is no comparison.

Yaya Toure is in my top 10 footballers of all time. Okocha is in not my Top 20.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W-OQUzQay0
yaya was too complete as a midfielder

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TheGoodJoe(m): 7:54pm On Mar 01
charlesemeka85:
yaya was too complete as a midfielder

Frightening complete. His ability was superhuman.

I a game he wanted to take a free kick. The ball was too far from goal. When the referee turned, Nasri moved the ball closer. Yaya Toure collected the ball, moved it even more farther from the goal. Then scored it with a scorching curler. He was a delight to watch.

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Amedino99(m): 8:11pm On Mar 01
Napoli and inter 1-1 draw. Atlanta missed a huge chance today
charlesemeka85(m): 8:42pm On Mar 01
comodo:

Just tell us say na Royal Antwerp Dem sign for. "Bosuil" I come dey think say na one club for Turkmenistan 😃
na translation bro 🤣🤣🤣🤣
lbrichman2: 9:22pm On Mar 01
Amedino99:
Napoli and inter 1-1 draw. Atlanta missed a huge chance today

Bruhh....
Very painful
Philosopher1979: 10:22pm On Mar 01
TheGoodJoe:


Frightening complete. His ability was superhuman.

I a game he wanted to take a free kick. The ball was too far from goal. When the referee turned, Nasri moved the ball closer. Yaya Toure collected the ball, moved it even more farther from the goal. Then scored it with a scorching curler. He was a delight to watch.

Okochavis far better. Okochas ability to control thr midfield is far ahead. Yayactkurevis a product of modern footballs hatred of flair. He is just effective that's all. Okochs eill collect the midfield from this your yaya toure. I don't see much about him compared to okocha. You will say tkure was more successful in Europe but European football is sometimes just tactics and team work. Which dribble did toure invent. I don't send yaya toure at all. Yaya what. Just a tall, effective player that's all. He did not bring beauty to football. No innovative technique, no anything

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Napoleon55(m): 10:54pm On Mar 01
TheGoodJoe:


No comparison. Yaya Toure is one of the greatest players I ever saw play football. There is no comparison.

Yaya Toure is in my top 10 footballers of all time. Okocha is in not my Top 20.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W-OQUzQay0
Yaya vs KDB nko?
opes: 11:04pm On Mar 01
Amedino99:
Napoli and inter 1-1 draw. Atlanta missed a huge chance today

Napoli is struggling now, they ain't won any of their last 5 matches..They are still contender though..
Napoleon55(m): 11:23pm On Mar 01
TheGoodJoe:


No comparison. Yaya Toure is one of the greatest players I ever saw play football. There is no comparison.

Yaya Toure is in my top 10 footballers of all time. Okocha is in not my Top 20.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W-OQUzQay0
What can Yaya do in football that Okocha cannot easily do apart from defending, that Okocha cannot be compared with him?

If Okocha were opportuned enough to play for any of the traditional top teams even if na Arsenal, the world for dey give am the respect he deserves.
Yaya was more successful in Europe because he played in more organized ambitious teams.

Sometimes these Europeans when ranking the most skillful players of all time, Okocha's name don't usually make top 10 sometimes,all because he did not play for a major top team.
jihday(m): 2:52am On Mar 02
Kog45:
I dey hear Mikel wella just like I dey hear John Fashanu....Mikel left naija age 16 so having different accent from ours is understandable
was about to point this out, he left Nigeria very young

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jihday(m): 2:54am On Mar 02
kendrick9:
Mikel started taking national call ups seriously when he wasn't no longer first choice for Chelsea.
During Mikel younger days, I'm talking from about 06-2010 he used to snub call ups.
Like I said I can't take them nighas seriously
this isn’t true

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TheGoodJoe(m): 4:00am On Mar 02
Napoleon55:

What can Yaya do in football that Okocha cannot easily do apart from defending, that Okocha cannot be compared with him?

If Okocha were opportuned enough to play for any of the traditional top teams even if na Arsenal, the world for dey give am the respect he deserves.
Yaya was more successful in Europe because he played in more organized ambitious teams.

Sometimes these Europeans when ranking the most skillful players of all time, Okocha's name don't usually make top 10 sometimes,all because he did not play for a major top team.

We can't rate with if.

No one doubts Okocha's talent but rating them, is what they did in football. Okocha vs Yaya is no comparison.

Heck, Yaya Toure won African footballer of the year four times. Okocha never won it.

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TheGoodJoe(m): 4:01am On Mar 02
Napoleon55:

Yaya vs KDB nko?

Definitely KDB but I prefer Yaya Toure.

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TheGoodJoe(m): 4:07am On Mar 02
Philosopher1979:


Okochavis far better. Okochas ability to control thr midfield is far ahead. Yayactkurevis a product of modern footballs hatred of flair. He is just effective that's all. Okochs eill collect the midfield from this your yaya toure. I don't see much about him compared to okocha. You will say tkure was more successful in Europe but European football is sometimes just tactics and team work. Which dribble did toure invent. I don't send yaya toure at all. Yaya what. Just a tall, effective player that's all. He did not bring beauty to football. No innovative technique, no anything

Watch and have a glimpse of Yaya Toure's talent.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kI9obNdTqE
Kog45(m): 7:00am On Mar 02
Philosopher1979:


Okochavis far better. Okochas ability to control thr midfield is far ahead. Yayactkurevis a product of modern footballs hatred of flair. He is just effective that's all. Okochs eill collect the midfield from this your yaya toure. I don't see much about him compared to okocha. You will say tkure was more successful in Europe but European football is sometimes just tactics and team work. Which dribble did toure invent. I don't send yaya toure at all. Yaya what. Just a tall, effective player that's all. He did not bring beauty to football. No innovative technique, no anything
Kai four APOTY winner,I love JayJay but Yaya Toure deserves respect,not easy winning four APOTY which Okocha failed to win.....Yaya just tall? meaning pls.
Kog45(m): 7:37am On Mar 02
Napoleon55:

What can Yaya do in football that Okocha cannot easily do apart from defending, that Okocha cannot be compared with him?

If Okocha were opportuned enough to play for any of the traditional top teams even if na Arsenal, the world for dey give am the respect he deserves.
Yaya was more successful in Europe because he played in more organized ambitious teams.

Sometimes these Europeans when ranking the most skillful players of all time, Okocha's name don't usually make top 10 sometimes,all because he did not play for a major top team.
Okocha was not opportune but Yaya was opportune right,pls what brings opportunity in football?..... Okocha started well as a young player playing for Frankfurt but funny moved to Turkish league against all expectations the same Turkish league that no one rate as at today..... later had saved career transferred to PSG but again from PSG moved to very poor Bolton,now big question whose fault.......we cannot be rating player on (IF)....

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MetalJigsaw(m): 7:43am On Mar 02
comodo:

Goal for Orban and Mola will make my evening. Make the pepper snail and desperado digest wela.
I hope Orban will be invited
Kog45(m): 7:44am On Mar 02
Philosopher1979:


Okochavis far better. Okochas ability to control thr midfield is far ahead. Yayactkurevis a product of modern footballs hatred of flair. He is just effective that's all. Okochs eill collect the midfield from this your yaya toure. I don't see much about him compared to okocha. You will say tkure was more successful in Europe but European football is sometimes just tactics and team work. Which dribble did toure invent. I don't send yaya toure at all. Yaya what. Just a tall, effective player that's all. He did not bring beauty to football. No innovative technique, no anything
Okocha controlling midfield ahead of Yaya?FAR AHEAD according to you is exaggerating....Yaya in the middle was a powerhouse,so it's debatable between Yaya and Okocha

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TheSuperNerd(m): 9:44am On Mar 02
minfelix:


no naaa bros,2006 Mikel scored his first afcon goal in group stage against Zimbabwe…he was suspended from super eagles in 2007, after sighting that he had injury but because he didn’t turn in to be checked by Nigerian medical team….he came back in 2008 and played in afcon (we all know how manipulative European coaches can be, especially when they have an indispensable rare gem in their team, they will always force and threaten them to ignore national team call up else they will loose their spot)
traced back to 2010 mikel had an injury that ruled him out of fifa world cup(who no go wan play for world cup) but he was involved in the qualifiying matches from 2008 to 2009
Keny 2-3 Nigeria
Nig 2-2 Tunisia
Moz 0-0 Nig
Tun 0-0 Nig
His high profile year of winning UCL with chelsea
2012, mikel was involved in the afcon qualifiers
Nig 2-0 Madagascar
Ethiopia 2-2 Nigeria
Nig 4-0 Ethiopia
Madagascar 0-2 Nigeria
Nig 2-2 Gui(the final match that ousted us from afcon in abuja)
so he was also involved in our qualifiers from 2010 to 2011
Afcon 2013 qualifiers he was also available in the 2-legged play off against Liberia that qualifed us
Liberia 2-2 Nigeria
Nigeria 6-1Liberia
Mikel gave his best for Nigeria oo forget o

This is a well detailed response. Kudos my man. I love that this style of carefully typed evidential-based response isn't dead on this thread.

Cheers.

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TheSuperNerd(m): 9:53am On Mar 02
One of the top reasons why I will forever regard Mikel Obi as one of the midfield greats of Nigerian football is his ability and talent to contend in midfield battles against Yaya Youre most especially in the biggest one at the Afcon in 2013 which definitely shocked Africa and most Nigerians.

Nigeria vs CIV Afcon 2013 Quarterfinals was a midfield battle for the ages. Mikel Obi alongside Onazi somehow managed to come out on top vs Yaya and co.

It wasn't easy against a complete midfield beast like Yaya.

TheGoodJoe:


Watch and have a glimpse of Yaya Toure's talent.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kI9obNdTqE

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TheSuperNerd(m): 10:08am On Mar 02
JayJay Okocha is still the most talented player ever to come out of the African continent based on pure footballing tekkers/skills and technical ability.

But technique and skills isn't everything. The story of Leandro Depetris and Victor Vazquez (both lads existed in same time period as Messi as youngsters yet couldn't make it for various reasons).

Yaya Toure is the most complete midfielder ever to come out of Africa. He had the power, brawn, height, mass and brains. The physical beastness to face the toughest defenders and midfielders and make them cower, the long strides to make opponent's midfields look like a freeway, he had the engine also to power through tight situations and come out unscathed. HE WAS A COMPLETE POWERHOUSE OF A PLAYER.


Okocha was the most talented CAM with the most flair and best skills on the pitch out of Africa but Yaya was the most complete midfielder out of Africa

This is the difference.


Philosopher1979:


Okochavis far better. Okochas ability to control thr midfield is far ahead. Yayactkurevis a product of modern footballs hatred of flair. He is just effective that's all. Okochs eill collect the midfield from this your yaya toure. I don't see much about him compared to okocha. You will say tkure was more successful in Europe but European football is sometimes just tactics and team work. Which dribble did toure invent. I don't send yaya toure at all. Yaya what. Just a tall, effective player that's all. He did not bring beauty to football. No innovative technique, no anything

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charlesemeka85(m): 10:22am On Mar 02
TheSuperNerd:
One of the top reasons why I will forever regard Mikel Obi as one of the midfield greats of Nigerian football is his ability and talent to contend in midfield battles against Yaya Youre most especially in the biggest one at the Afcon in 2013 which definitely shocked Africa and most Nigerians.

Nigeria vs CIV Afcon 2013 Quarterfinals was a midfield battle for the ages. Mikel Obi alongside Onazi somehow managed to come out on top vs Yaya and co.

It wasn't easy against a complete midfield beast like Yaya.

Obi was a Trojan in our midfield in that game. I will say his best for the super eagles. Till date I still that last minute goal block he did to deny yaya an equalizer
elyte89: 10:28am On Mar 02
charlesemeka85:
Obi was a Trojan in our midfield in that game. I will say his best for the super eagles. Till date I still that last minute goal block he did to deny yaya an equalizer



For me , d game against Spain 3-0 loss was mikel best game ever for super eagles ..he gave everything in that match but our inexperienced strikers couldn’t convert his assist .he also showed Chelsea dt he could as well function very well as a CM/AM as he played better against d duo of xavi and iniesta in dt game


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M17SGuhMglc?si=J83qQwNCW0Y_FNeH

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charlesemeka85(m): 10:33am On Mar 02
elyte89:




For me , d game against Spain 3-0 loss was mikel best game ever for super eagles ..he gave everything in that match but our inexperienced strikers couldn’t convert his assist .he also showed Chelsea dt he could as well function very well as a CM/AM as he played better against d duo of xavi and iniesta in dt game


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M17SGuhMglc?si=J83qQwNCW0Y_FNeH
tactics wise he was too damn perfect against Yaya in that game because if u rewatch that game you will understand that late keshi gave him that responsibility to nullify yaya’s threat which he did perfectly

The game against Spain he was given the license to roam around as a number 10
Nomyth: 10:38am On Mar 02
Seems we dodged a bullet.

charlesemeka85(m): 10:38am On Mar 02
elyte89:




For me , d game against Spain 3-0 loss was mikel best game ever for super eagles ..he gave everything in that match but our inexperienced strikers couldn’t convert his assist .he also showed Chelsea dt he could as well function very well as a CM/AM as he played better against d duo of xavi and iniesta in dt game


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M17SGuhMglc?si=J83qQwNCW0Y_FNeH
mikel Dey dazzle Spain dey score 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️
charlesemeka85(m): 10:39am On Mar 02
Nomyth:
Seems we dodged a bullet.
dem born this man born draw 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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9JAMac10: 11:08am On Mar 02
Mikel obi had a better year back in 2013 than the Ivorian guy . Winning champion league and Afcon and Europa league in a calendar year. Come on super eagles fanatics let’s be logical about this

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elyte89: 11:35am On Mar 02
charlesemeka85:
dem born this man born draw 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


He is a defensive coach 😊😊😊

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charlesemeka85(m): 12:44pm On Mar 02
How far Victor Eletu Ehuwa? If making it to Milan’s first team seem a tough task for him he should move to another club na

Abi him wan play primavera football forever?

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