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It is quite strange.
After spending 5+x years in the university!Habba!
I think this is a waste of time cos after the internship the "graduate" has to go for 1 yr NYSC , probably teaching in a remote village

Let wait and see, that was how people felt with NYSC.

I think this whole stuff is a good idea, because it will further improve the standard at which nigerian enginineers are viewed both at home and abroad, just as our medical counterparts. But the platform on which to efffect this is not feasible at the moment, infact no goverment policy is feasible even a common tenureship in the nigerian constitution is wabbling. Hence, let's forget it for now and focus on utilizing the FIVE years we are currently spending at the uni which sometimes are vain and void. If gov. insists on maintaining the policy, the duration of the enginnering courses should be reduced so we can fend for our selves and not depend on our mentors the more....MY POP HAS ONLY AGREED TO FEED, SHELTER AND PROVIDE FOR ME FOR ONLY SIX YEARS INCLUDING MY NYSC !!!!!!

i think the question we should ask ourselves is this "when does it start"? But now that one of the ers of the scheme "Adeseye Ogunlewe is out of office, maybe they'll backpedal form the idea.

Cheers

COMMUNIQUE ISSUED AT THE END OF 14TH ENGINEERING ASSEMBLY ON
"ENGINEERING EDUCATION, PRACTICE AND REGULATION: THE NIGERIAN SITUATION"
Held at the International Conference Center, Abuja, 20th - 21st September 2005

The Council for Regulation of Engineering in Nigeria (COREN) held its 14th Engineering Assembly in the International Conference Centre, Abuja from 20th - 21st September, 2005. The theme of the Assembly was "Engineering Education, Practice and Regulation: The Nigerian Situation".

The Assembly was declared open by the Special Guest of Honour, Engr. Chief Olusegun Obasanjo, FNSE, GCFR, President and Commander in Chief of Nigerian Armed Forces, ably represented by the Honourable Minister of Works, Senator Adeseye Ogunlewe. The occasion was spectacularly graced by several imminent Nigerians including the Former Head of State, Gen. Dr. Yakubu Gowon (Rtd), GCFR, who ably presided over the proceedings of the Opening Ceremony with his characteristic eloquence and charisma. Other dignitaries included State Governors, Leaders and of National Assembly, the Chief Host and Minister of Capital Territory, Cabinet Ministers, gurus from the industry and academia.

An impressive attendance of about 2,500 participants was recorded at the Assembly. A total of seven invited papers covering engineering education, practice and regulation, entrepreneurship and sustainable development were delivered and discussed in the two-day duration of the Assembly.

A special feature of the 14th COREN Assembly was a special forum of the Committee of Deans of Faculties of Engineering (CODET).

The following is a summary of the presentations, discussions, conclusions and recommendations arising from the two-day brainstorming session of the engineering family on the crucial issue of Engineering Education, Practice and Regulation in Nigeria:

1. The reforms of the Science, Technology and innovation systems which the Government has initiated with UNESCO are vitally important in addressing poverty reduction, sustainable development and the achievement of the UN Millennium Development Goals for which Nigeria is a signatory.

2. Engineering Education and Practice have declined over the years, despite all the regulatory efforts, due to neglect of massive investment in the education sector in general and science and engineering programmes in particular. There is urgent need for governments to redress this anomaly with massive investment in infrastructures and human resource development. COREN shall strengthen its network with international bodies to ensure mutual recognition of engineering personnel and qualifications to enhance the mobility of engineering personnel so as to benefit significantly from cross-border partnerships and globalization

3. The present education of engineering personnel has been shown to fall short of the requirements of the modern workplace. The teaching and learning objectives of our education system need to be reviewed to emphasize student competencies in original problem identification, formulation and solution in a multi disciplinary atmosphere and under given constraints. COREN must insist on changing the current conventional methods of imparting engineering knowledge.

4. There is uncoordinated use of education and training capacities between industry and products of Higher Education Institutions (HEIs) leading to serious gaps in the actual and expected quality of graduates produced. Entrepreneurship is considered as a major catalyst for leveraging the economic transformation of Nigeria through employment generation, self-reliance and poverty alleviation. Entrepreneurship should be introduced at all levels of education in Nigeria.

5. The training of the Nigerian Engineering Technicians and Craftsmen should be intensified through the of the organized private sector while the government should encourage such companies through tax reduction. The current status of the Trade Centres and Colleges of Technology should be upgraded with better equipment and staffing for effective training of Nigerians.

6. Efforts should be made by the government to assemble and keep record of appropriately trained engineering technicians and craftsmen, as well as regulate the practice effectively.

[b]7. The Assembly invited all stakeholders in engineering education, training and practice to embrace and invest in the Supervised Industrial Training Scheme in Engineering (SITSIE) for technology transfer and experience development. SITSIE Certification will form the final clearance for engineering personnel to enlist for the NYSC while the SITSIE and NYSC years count as experience for the Engineering Personnel.

8. SME dusters, informal sector operators such as the Nnewi dusters are recognized as institutions with potentials and features that should be tapped by COREN in the implementation of the SITSIE programme. There is need for radical change of attitude Government and individuals as to the need for massive investment in technology education and training as a critical success factor for the advancement of our country into the league of technologically developed nations.[/b]9. Government of all levels, Engineering education/training institutions, firms, practitioners and indeed all other stakeholders are invited to make reference to the Engineers (Registration etc) Act E11 2004 to guide them in the legal requirements for education, training, practice including employment of engineering personnel.

10. In order to enable COREN realize its mandate for control and regulation of engineering practice in all its aspects and ramification, Council has instituted the Engineering Regulations Monitoring Programme. Accordingly, COREN inspectors are empowered to conduct visitation to establishments for the purposes of enforcing compliance with the Engineers (Registration) Act E11 2004.

11. The recent engineering failures especially collapse of buildings and bridges is a big shame to the image of our country. However, these failures have been found to be traceable to the activities of non -ed engineering personnel '"quacks". To combat this ugly scourge, COREN has introduced Project Control Forms PCF (A, B, C) to be submitted by design engineers and displayed on construction sites. Approving authorities should henceforth desist from approving designs or supervision without completion Projects Control Forms COREN inspectors are mandated to visit building sites and enforce compliance with Project Control Forms regulations and all aspects of quality control and assurance.

12. All universities and polytechnics are to submit to COREN and NBTE respectively, within the specified period, data on students of approved programmes and applications for new programmes in accordance with the Engineers (Registration etc) Act 2004. Only duly ed engineering personnel should be appointed as Deans, Heads of Department or Directors of engineering personnel programmes. In order to streamline the flow of information and synergy with the Universities and Polytechnics, COREN calls for the resuscitation and effectiveness of the Committee of Deans of Engineering (CODET) and Heads of Colleges of Technology (COHEADS) in the country.

13. The Assembly notes that COREN has taken the right steps on a Salary Scale for Engineers in the Public Sector (ESS), and calls on government to expedite action on approving this for implementation

Hnd-holder:

COMMUNIQUE ISSUED AT THE END OF 14TH ENGINEERING ASSEMBLY ON
"ENGINEERING EDUCATION, PRACTICE AND REGULATION: THE NIGERIAN SITUATION"
Held at the International Conference Center, Abuja, 20th - 21st September 2005

The Council for Regulation of Engineering in Nigeria (COREN) held its 14th Engineering Assembly in the International Conference Centre, Abuja from 20th - 21st September, 2005. The theme of the Assembly was "Engineering Education, Practice and Regulation: The Nigerian Situation".

The Assembly was declared open by the Special Guest of Honour, Engr. Chief Olusegun Obasanjo, FNSE, GCFR, President and Commander in Chief of Nigerian Armed Forces, ably represented by the Honourable Minister of Works, Senator Adeseye Ogunlewe. The occasion was spectacularly graced by several imminent Nigerians including the Former Head of State, Gen. Dr. Yakubu Gowon (Rtd), GCFR, who ably presided over the proceedings of the Opening Ceremony with his characteristic eloquence and charisma. Other dignitaries included State Governors, Leaders and of National Assembly, the Chief Host and Minister of Capital Territory, Cabinet Ministers, gurus from the industry and academia.

An impressive attendance of about 2,500 participants was recorded at the Assembly. A total of seven invited papers covering engineering education, practice and regulation, entrepreneurship and sustainable development were delivered and discussed in the two-day duration of the Assembly.

A special feature of the 14th COREN Assembly was a special forum of the Committee of Deans of Faculties of Engineering (CODET).

The following is a summary of the presentations, discussions, conclusions and recommendations arising from the two-day brainstorming session of the engineering family on the crucial issue of Engineering Education, Practice and Regulation in Nigeria:

1. The reforms of the Science, Technology and innovation systems which the Government has initiated with UNESCO are vitally important in addressing poverty reduction, sustainable development and the achievement of the UN Millennium Development Goals for which Nigeria is a signatory.

2. Engineering Education and Practice have declined over the years, despite all the regulatory efforts, due to neglect of massive investment in the education sector in general and science and engineering programmes in particular. There is urgent need for governments to redress this anomaly with massive investment in infrastructures and human resource development. COREN shall strengthen its network with international bodies to ensure mutual recognition of engineering personnel and qualifications to enhance the mobility of engineering personnel so as to benefit significantly from cross-border partnerships and globalization

3. The present education of engineering personnel has been shown to fall short of the requirements of the modern workplace. The teaching and learning objectives of our education system need to be reviewed to emphasize student competencies in original problem identification, formulation and solution in a multi disciplinary atmosphere and under given constraints. COREN must insist on changing the current conventional methods of imparting engineering knowledge.

4. There is uncoordinated use of education and training capacities between industry and products of Higher Education Institutions (HEIs) leading to serious gaps in the actual and expected quality of graduates produced. Entrepreneurship is considered as a major catalyst for leveraging the economic transformation of Nigeria through employment generation, self-reliance and poverty alleviation. Entrepreneurship should be introduced at all levels of education in Nigeria.

5. The training of the Nigerian Engineering Technicians and Craftsmen should be intensified through the of the organized private sector while the government should encourage such companies through tax reduction. The current status of the Trade Centres and Colleges of Technology should be upgraded with better equipment and staffing for effective training of Nigerians.

6. Efforts should be made by the government to assemble and keep record of appropriately trained engineering technicians and craftsmen, as well as regulate the practice effectively.

[b]7. The Assembly invited all stakeholders in engineering education, training and practice to embrace and invest in the Supervised Industrial Training Scheme in Engineering (SITSIE) for technology transfer and experience development. SITSIE Certification will form the final clearance for engineering personnel to enlist for the NYSC while the SITSIE and NYSC years count as experience for the Engineering Personnel.

8. SME dusters, informal sector operators such as the Nnewi dusters are recognized as institutions with potentials and features that should be tapped by COREN in the implementation of the SITSIE programme. There is need for radical change of attitude Government and individuals as to the need for massive investment in technology education and training as a critical success factor for the advancement of our country into the league of technologically developed nations.[/b]9. Government of all levels, Engineering education/training institutions, firms, practitioners and indeed all other stakeholders are invited to make reference to the Engineers (Registration etc) Act E11 2004 to guide them in the legal requirements for education, training, practice including employment of engineering personnel.

10. In order to enable COREN realize its mandate for control and regulation of engineering practice in all its aspects and ramification, Council has instituted the Engineering Regulations Monitoring Programme. Accordingly, COREN inspectors are empowered to conduct visitation to establishments for the purposes of enforcing compliance with the Engineers (Registration) Act E11 2004.

11. The recent engineering failures especially collapse of buildings and bridges is a big shame to the image of our country. However, these failures have been found to be traceable to the activities of non -ed engineering personnel '"quacks". To combat this ugly scourge, COREN has introduced Project Control Forms PCF (A, B, C) to be submitted by design engineers and displayed on construction sites. Approving authorities should henceforth desist from approving designs or supervision without completion Projects Control Forms COREN inspectors are mandated to visit building sites and enforce compliance with Project Control Forms regulations and all aspects of quality control and assurance.

12. All universities and polytechnics are to submit to COREN and NBTE respectively, within the specified period, data on students of approved programmes and applications for new programmes in accordance with the Engineers (Registration etc) Act 2004. Only duly ed engineering personnel should be appointed as Deans, Heads of Department or Directors of engineering personnel programmes. In order to streamline the flow of information and synergy with the Universities and Polytechnics, COREN calls for the resuscitation and effectiveness of the Committee of Deans of Engineering (CODET) and Heads of Colleges of Technology (COHEADS) in the country.

13. The Assembly notes that COREN has taken the right steps on a Salary Scale for Engineers in the Public Sector (ESS), and calls on government to expedite action on approving this for implementation

When does the implementation begin?

COREN said October 2006.

is it paid internship?


How many companies have signed up to this programme?

How many Students are they taking on yearly?

what happen afterwards they get retained or kicked out?

SITSIE Certification will form the final clearance for engineering personnel to enlist for the NYSC while the SITSIE and NYSC years count as experience for the Engineering Personnel.

It is real True Habu Gumel re echo it yesterday.

hi guys,
in reaction to the above subject matter I believe it is a waste of time.Student already undergo 1 year industrial training.Where are the companies for them to undergo the training.Which company is ready to train the upcomin engineers.I believe this is a selfish ambition by older engineers to frustrate the upcomin ones.By the way how would they be paid after spending 7years(including NYSC minus strike),maybe a lousy 20000 naira by local consulting firms.when mates in social science and stration courses spend 4 years and make better pay packet.Finally they go to serve my up NORTH where there talents are finally killed teaching intro tech or physics.To me it is very very dumb idea.let the older engineers check themselves

I think this will be like law school, Student who want to be engineer must attend SISTIE.

They are all just being stupid as usual. Though it is not a bad idea for the students to have more eperience but it shoul be optional after all they are already being subjected to 1year internship during the school period ie
Year 2-- 3months IT
Year 3-- 3months IT
year4-- 6months IT and most people dont have firms that are willing to take them. they should allow them finishschhol early so those that those whose decide to further thier education can, those that will liike to get married and leave oppurtunities for others can. and those who want to be self employed equally carry on. why are they just trying to make education longer instead of better

The policy is out already. We are stupid to make engineering better to help you from being used as pry school teacher or tool carrier.

@ hnd-holder
I want to know whether u work with COREN or NSE because you seem discouraged by some of the post.pls let me know so as to explain some more things

Yes and NO yes in that I am the Deputy National President of NITE, Member of NSE and COREN ed
Coren is made up of NSE,NITE,NISET, NAEC and ASCEN ( www.corenng.org) I was in COREN COMMITTEE for some years.

COREN DECREE

COREN is empowered by Decrees, No 55, 1970 and No 27, 1992 (Amendment) to accredit training institutions and regulate the practice of engineers, technologists, technicians and craftsmen in Nigeria.

By these decrees, it is illegal for the following to practice or be employed, except for the purpose of training and apprenticeship, without being ed by COREN:

Engineers

Engineering Technologists

Engineering Technicians

Engineering Craftsmen and

Engineering Consulting Firms

Anybody corporate or individual employer who engages the services of uned engineering personnel or consulting firms commits an offence against the law of the land as stipulated in clause 13(6), page 14 of the COREN Decrees.

Engineering Regulations Monitoring (ERM) inspectors have been appointed all over Nigeria to fish out offenders.

COREN ASSY is going on now at ABUJA 25-26 July 2006. Last year 20-21 Sept. 2005 "The Assembly invited all stakeholders in engineering education, training and practice to embrace and invest in the Supervised Industrial Training Scheme in Engineering (SITSIE) for technology transfer and experience development. SITSIE Certification will form the final clearance for engineering personnel to enlist for the NYSC while the SITSIE and NYSC years count as experience for the Engineering Personnel."

@ hnd-holder,
It is a priviledge to meet one of the policy and decision makers on engineering matters.I dont want you sir to take the responses on the subject as an insult.I feel the policy makers should ask from the students about for their inputs towards making the goal attainable.Sir you can ask the dean of faculty of technology University of Ibadan about this.He conducted a faculty discussion about improvement of engineering education.He got a very interesting dimension to his discussion from the student.I feel the NSE has most of the times distance itself from the students.The state of facilities is nothing to write home about.Do you know sir that there is one Universal Testing Machine in the whole the universities in the South west and it is in Unilag.It is the only place where steel testing can be done.Sir do also know that most graduate engineers do not practise engineering they are either in banks or converted for other purposes.I believe NSE and COREN should make representations to the president to equip faculties of engineering equipment and modern softwares.I believe NSE and COREN should liase with NYSC so as to improve the lot of engineering graduates who are given pitful primary assignment.
I will like to know you better sir,I can be reached on email [email protected]

The students do not think it is their duty to find COREN/ NSE not until when is time for JOB. They are all looking for money in place of their carrier, they prefer ICAN to COREN so we can not force them, but to enforce the COREN law.

@ Hnd-Holder,
I think why most students go and do ICAN is simply that there is no minimum salary scale for engineers in Nigeria and also due to economics.Most employers note that an average engineering graduate is better than a graduate of ing or business istration.I believe NSE should brace up for a time where the number of practising engineers would be declining.A typical I can cite is IStructE in UK which had to go some massive grassroot campaign to sure up its numbers.The NSE should be looking at global collaboration with other bodies such as ICE,ImechE,IEEE.Sir if Mohammed does not go to the mountain the mountain must therefore go to Mohammed.By organising seminars in various school campuses.Sir you can take a cue from the Nigerian Institute of Management.

As MNSE I will never say anything bad against NSE. We need very strong student wing of NSE to change the focus. Nse is not a mate to ICE,ImechE,IEEE. These bodies are like our own institution of Civil, Agric, Mechanical etc.

i thank my God that this evil wind has blown over
heard our names where sent to abuja today for NYSC

This was final approved yesterday, you need it. as what we have is too small to be call engineer

Oh really? Is this for real? Cos i aint down with it in any form or shape. Haba, i.t from 200- 400 level, aint that enough?

Kola, are you a Uite?

My HND is of FED POLY ADO EKITI, FUTA saved my carrier, I was at UI for a professional Master. How about you?