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eGuerrilla:

Interesting.

Bruv,

Am sure the document can't be with atiku, Atiku didn't have much influence in the pdp when it was formed, that was why they agreed to give him the vp slot ahead of others because they believed he posed no threat. He could have served as a messenger then but not as a gladiator.history would prove to anybody that atiku was gunning for adamawa governorship but instead the real gladiators wanted him in the presidency so as to pacify the north. Atiku became influential in pdp after he became the vp so he couldn't have had the opportunity to get the certificate. As for bankrolling the registration, ask IBB he knows better about it.

chukwudi44:

Likewise PDP was formed by the G-34 led by Dr Alex Ekwueme,Solomon Lar was later to become the first National chairman.If the certificate has to be anywhere else other than the party heardquarters then it has to be withem and not Atiku who was merely gunning for the Adamawa Governorship.

How can you discount anything at this stage without veritable proof? Why does every pronouncement you make carry an air of certainty even as you know this is not necessarily the case?

By the way, the following excerpt from a 2006 Gamji article s your position: A Paradox: PDP House In Contradiction

The istration of Chief Olusegun Obasanjo has thrown spanner in the works and it has deviated from what democracy is all about. Intolerance of opposition, disregard for justice, selective handling and hunting of perceived enemies through EFCC and the Independent Corrupt Practices and Related Offences Commission (IC), blackmailing of dissenters, prevalent poverty, unemployment, insecurity, armed robbery, political assassination, listening to 419ners and their likes, worshipping of mediocrity, confusion, crisis and lack of order of civility in governance has grounded the so called largest political party in Africa.

Unfortunate enough for the Ahmodu Ali-led faction of the party, the Shuaib Oyedokun/Solomon Lar faction according to a top official, who spoke under anonymity with National Mirror Wednesday June 14, 2006. Page 3 and I quote “the immediate past NWC of the party who constituted the parallel body did not include the party registration certificate in the handover note to the Ahmodu Ali-led faction, when it took over affairs at the party secretariat.

He explained that the action was deliberately carried out by the immediate past NWC based on its conviction that the election of Ahmadu Ali-led faction violated laid down constitutional procedures of the party when it took over proceeding at its National headquarters.

According to the paper, the source said: the new Executive Committee of the party would stop at nothing to ensure that the principle of due process would be applied in the running of the affairs of the party.

With all these happenings, whither is the PDP?

Nonsense. If gej decides to s a new party and moves out with his ers, who will remain in pdp. pdp should not make things difficult for gej. they should allow nigeria develop for once.

take dat: Bruv,

I am saying the information you presented is rather interesting. I was unaware of that distinction.

ok. let us assume atiku was in possesion of the certificate at the inception of pdp, would they still let him keep it after he left to form AC. Guys think.

Sincere 9gerian:
Only few weeks ago, you were among those who condemned the attempt by 5 of Rivers State House of Assembly to take over the leadership of the house. But today, you'r excited about attempts by 7 governors to take over a party with 16 governors. That is the proper definition of HYPOCRISY, a very COMMON ailment in Nigeria.

Meanwhile, the renegade PDP do not qualify to called a faction of PDP. By law, a faction of a political party must emanate from divisions in the National Working Committee of the party. It is not enough for some losers to walk out of a convention ground and make bogus claims.

First. Apples and oranges. The consequences of just governors voting solely within a committee of equals, and without any constitutional or pending national election backing it, are tiny, compared to those already beginning to manifest when it comes to that involving an entire political machinery - the executive and legislators at both state and federal levels.

Second. The law does not say that the NWC must break up before a party is deemed to have broken up. In any case, the NWC derives its power/mandate from the NEC. As it stands today, the NEC (or is it the neck?) of the PDP is broken in two. Maybe not in equal halves, but nevertheless broken apart in two. So, you were reaching there.

P34c3

omiobo: Finally GEJ is on his knees.

That is very good. Nigerians have been doing that for so long. Welcome Boss to the the receiving end - How does it feel?

chukwudi44:

Your arguments are baseless,illogical and purely out of emotions.

GEJ still has the of the majority of the PDP governors!! If Atiku has the document with the power it is said to hold ,he would have used it against OBj.

The second point you raised,the opposition does not have the numbers yet to remove him even if they merge with the APC legislators.the process of impeaching a president is not so straight and has so many loopholes which GEJ will capitalise on with many kangaroo court judgements.

It is not practically possibly to impeach an african president !! It has never happenednhe will rather hand over to the army or transmute into a military dictartorship by sacking the elcted officials in a palace coup

So if GEJ still have the of major PDP Governors what has that got to the with the situation on ground? Can you claim a property you dont know anything about or have the documents to proof the ownership? Like i said it wont be easy for Atiku to use the document against OBJ in 2007 cos it wont favour him at all cos the PDP is a one big house which is bigger than Atiku and if he win the court case the OBJ and his people can form another party and will be stronger then Atiku PDP as at then.

Now PDP is in a complete break house where Atiku faction has more power than the Tukur faction, Do you think OBJ has forgive GEJ? it will be easy for Atiku to forgive OBJ than for OBJ to forgive Goodluck. So even if Goodluck and his people have to form another party they wont be as relevant as the PDP for now and APC will have the upper hand over and
the Atiku faction might port to APC to finally render the GEJ side completely irrelevant. Beside do you what Atiku and if fellow are into is also the samething the APC are working toward to finally wrestle power from him, So bro GEJ is in for a showdown.

chukwudi44:

Bros the koko is to get recogniosed by INEC which Tukur has everyother thing is gilberish

Exactly,I wonder if they will use old Certificate of registration to a new PDP.
Fact remains that whoever is appointed Chairman determines who controls the Party if not y is Atiku faction fighting for Tukur removal.
Even if Tukur goes another GEJ Loyalist will be appointed.
North do not get it,the Political Landscape of Nigeria has changed,that's the simple truth.
I siddon dey Look !

bashy_demy: So if GEJ still have the of major PDP Governors what has that got to the with the situation on ground? Can you claim a property you dont know anything about or have the documents to proof the ownership? Like i said it wont be easy for Atiku to use the document against OBJ in 2007 cos it wont favour him at all cos the PDP is a one big house which is bigger than Atiku and if he win the court case the OBJ and his people can form another party and will be stronger then Atiku PDP as at then.

Now PDP is in a complete break house where Atiku faction has more power than the Tukur faction, Do you think OBJ has forgive GEJ? it will be easy for Atiku to forgive OBJ than for OBJ to forgive Goodluck. So even if Goodluck and his people have to form another party they wont be as relevant as the PDP for now and APC will have the upper hand over and
the Atiku faction might port to APC to finally render the GEJ side completely irrelevant. Beside do you what Atiku and if fellow are into is also the samething the APC are working toward to finally wrestle power from him, So bro GEJ is in for a showdown.

And u think Atiku Faction will be given upper hand in Buhari/Tinubu APC.
In APC Atiku & Co will remain perpetual Servants or rather they should go & form a new Party,I tot PDM was linked to them.

take dat:
If the certificate of registration is not with an individual(s), should we then assume it is in the custody of some alien(s)?

If you find it plausible to believe that the certificate of registration of the then AC was with Atiku because he bankrolled the registration, why do you find it difficult to believe that PDP's certificate of registration is not with Atiku since you have nothing to disprove the claims that he paid for the registration and also the party's headquarters? If your argument is that there are other money bags in the PDP when the party was birthed, so were they in AC when it was formed.

I would have found it plausible if the news has suggested names like Chief Solomon Lar, Alh. Bamanga Tukur, Chief Graham Douglas, Amb. Wilberforce Juta, Late Alh. Abubakar Rimi, General IBB, Chief Audu Ogbeh, Chief Ken Nnamani, Chief Tony Anenih, Prof. Jubril Aminu to be holding on to the Party registration certificate.

Alh. Abubakar Atiku played a leading role as a founding member but cannot be said to be solely responsible for the registration, and no right to lay claim to the certificate.

PDP has a secretariat, and any report of missing certificate or whatsoever can only emanate from the Secretariat, not from Aso Rock.


My earlier claim of AC certificate in Atiku's custody is the truth,

camelus:
And u think Atiku Faction will be given upper hand in Buhari/Tinubu APC.
In APC Atiku & Co will remain perpetual Servants or rather they should go & form a new Party,I tot PDM was linked to them.

But they will fulfil there mission and will rather Buhari a strong Northern politician and Tinubu a strong Southern politician to be in control than a mere otuokpe GEJ who is nothing when talking about politics to bully and ridicule them.

bashy_demy: But they will fulfil there mission and will rather Buhari a strong Northern politician and Tinubu a strong Southern politician to be in control than a mere otuokpe GEJ who is nothing when talking about politics to bully and ridicule them.

@ Ops Politics is all about my interest not Our interest !

camelus:
@ Ops Politics is all about my interest not Our interest !

Who care about your interest? They care more about there own interest and not been bully. WHat do you think will happen when GEJ who is nothing and nowhere to be find when Atiku will Adamawa state Governoship before given the VP putting over him and trying to conrol the party he(Atiku) labor for and also spend his own money to and finance.

The likes of the mr president's men like okupe, abati, maku, tukur, wike, patience, jang, mimiko, apabio, obi etc are neophytes looking for money, position, recognition. When chips are down, they will all, may be with the exception of patience, leave the president in grueling cold. Mr president will need the political dexterity of Tinubu to deflate the likes of Atiku. Tinubu is a born political militant, the game strategist. Without him, APC would have not seen the light of day, going by the bottlenecks and traps presented/arranged for by Pdp and inec.
More importantly, having been ill-advised, he never have the majority of nigerians thro good works esp the sophisticated west with him. Has he not learnt that no government ever succeeded/last-be it military or civilian- who denigrates the west?
Mr. President, at this junction, you need God (that's if you have not gone okija!)

bashy_demy: Who care about your interest? They care more about there own interest and not been bully. WHat do you think will happen when GEJ who is nothing and nowhere to be find when Atiku will Adamawa state Governoship before given the VP putting over him and trying to conrol the party he(Atiku) labor for and also spend his own money to and finance.

Bros your argument holds no water.Even obasanjo the first PDP president was no where to be found when the party was been founded.The main brains behind the formation of PDP are IBB,Abdulsalami and the G-34

chukwudi44: While I doubt the veracity of this report!! Anyone of you who really thinks the Atiku faction can ever be recognised by INEC needs to have his brain re-examined!! So if a domestic aide of Jonathan suddey bolts with is INEC certificate of return for the presidential elections ,he suddenly becomes our president because of the possession of that document?

While I doubt this news? When did the certificate get missing? Who have been in the possession of this certicate all this while? Was atiku still in possession of this document even as the AC presidential candidate? If the mere possession of this document could confer authenticity on a faction why didn't he use it against Obasanjo in 2007?

Spot on.
I rest my case.

bashy_demy: But they will fulfil there mission and will rather Buhari a strong Northern politician and Tinubu a strong Southern politician to be in control than a mere otuokpe GEJ who is nothing when talking about politics to bully and ridicule them.

Buhari-a strong northern politician

Tinubu-a strong southern politician

Hmmmmmm I seee.I laugh in swahili

bashy_demy: So if GEJ still have the of major PDP Governors what has that got to the with the situation on ground? Can you claim a property you dont know anything about or have the documents to proof the ownership? Like i said it wont be easy for Atiku to use the document against OBJ in 2007 cos it wont favour him at all cos the PDP is a one big house which is bigger than Atiku and if he win the court case the OBJ and his people can form another party and will be stronger then Atiku PDP as at then.

Now PDP is in a complete break house where Atiku faction has more power than the Tukur faction, Do you think OBJ has forgive GEJ? it will be easy for Atiku to forgive OBJ than for OBJ to forgive Goodluck. So even if Goodluck and his people have to form another party they wont be as relevant as the PDP for now and APC will have the upper hand over and
the Atiku faction might port to APC to finally render the GEJ side completely irrelevant. Beside do you what Atiku and if fellow are into is also the samething the APC are working toward to finally wrestle power from him, So bro GEJ is in for a showdown.

Atiku's faction stronger? OBJ forgive GEJ?You guys really make me laugh!! You underestimate the power of the office of the president because the current president is from a minority tribe.

It it comes to the worst he will use his powers to fight dirty!! There is madness in everyone .That the man just decides to play gentleman for the tiome being should not be misconstrued.

Back to the certificate question. Get a certified copy from Inec on the basis that the original is missing and move on. Also find out who are the board of trustees. They are the sole of the party and not the person who has stolen or who is hoarding the certificate of registration of the party. Anyway, am not surprised because the party consists of people from several strange backgrounds.Hehehehehehehehe.

The Chinese would make him a solid replica and INEC would agree to it's 'authenticity'.End of story.

If we can share all the pressure we heap on GEJ with our State Governors,Nigeria will be a better place.

Pdp will be missing very soon

Dis AtikU guy mst be politcaly powerful o! Hw many naija politicians cn go g anoda party contest the presidential election yet return to the pdp and still have plenty of mouht and influence with followership lk dis? 2 tins are involved sha.

Pdp itself will be missing very soon

the certificate will surely be with Obasanjo.. I know that will be the first thing he will do when he was slated for the president.

Even if the certificate of registration is with Atiku the Tukur PDP can swear to an Affidavit of Loss of Certificate and INEC will issue another one because Atiku's new PDP conducted no election or convention to its national offices, this case is different from a new party, we are talking of an existing party. Anyone that now bring out the former certificate can be prosecuted for theft by the Police. Is it not Nigeria? have you not swear to an affidavit for Delcaration of age before, which in most cases are lies? Did anyone ask you questions about your age even when they know that you look older than the age you claim? Go to NYSC camps and see over-age corp (above 30 yrs) or government office and see oldie who claim to be less 60 years old.

If you read today Vanguard newspaper you will read Governor Babangida Aliyu saying the PDP problem can split Nigeria. That is playing into the hands of the American prediction. Seriously 2015 will be decisive for Nigeria. I am keenly watching these gladiators.

If this is true, i think the only option is for GEJ to use his power to split the country now. Am tired of those Nothern politicians...

Lies

Does it now mean that the PdP certificate is now in the clutches of the Northern cabal? Hmmnnn.... President Jo better watch his back.