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EmmGee: 4:03am On Apr 25, 2018
when will the excuses for hidden finish.
Griffon: 6:56am On Apr 25, 2018
I wonder why Firmino is so underated.
Greatihex(m): 7:11am On Apr 25, 2018
lordfalcao:
Salah scoring and assisting to take Liverpool to the quarters, semis and finals. Hazard waiting to play under the 100th manager that will play attacking football


Nonsense..
what made him all these years not to score and assist to take his team to the final, including chelsea. Why did he not score and assist to take chelsea to the final?

Nonsense

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Unlimited22: 7:24am On Apr 25, 2018
Creatrixity:


That's strange. I really don't get the Lingard slander. Anyone with half a brain watching the three lions will notice very distinct clear patterns in attacking midfield play to justify the switch from Alli to Lingard as first choice AM.




First of all, England has three strike choices upfront: Kane, Vardy and Rashford. Alli only seems to have a connection with Kane and attempts to exploit that connection to the max. Basically, in other words, a blocked Kane - Alli channel results in stunted attacking play for the whole team. Anyone that watched the earlier matches in the World Cup qualifying campaign should be able to ratify this observation with veracity.




Lingard however seems to have a broader picture of link up play. He also seems to function in a Rashford - Vardy setup better than anyone in that position and he is also comfortable with one touch attacking football further boosting fluidity and also helping the team leverage the strengths of other cogs in the machinery like Sterling, for example.
Nice analysis.
Not bad at all.
Subtle shade thrown at me grin
Unlimited22: 7:25am On Apr 25, 2018
Griffon:
I wonder why Firmino is so underated.
If he doesn't start at the world cup, Tite is mad.
popizaino(m): 7:25am On Apr 25, 2018
lordfalcao:
you that made sense, have you asked why hazard didn't do it in Lille?
UNFP Ligue 1 Young Player of the Year: 2008–09, 2009–10UNFP Ligue 1 Team of the Year: 2009–10, 2010–11, 2011–12UNFP Ligue 1 Player of the Year: 2010–11, 2011–12UNFP Ligue 1 Player of the Month: March 2010, March 2011, March 2012, April 2012[297][298]Bravo Award: 2011[19]FIFA FIFPro World XI Nominee: 2012



Hazard achieved all this with lille.so ask yourself again y salah didn't do it at roma that he had to wait to get to Liverpool before doing it.
Unlimited22: 7:27am On Apr 25, 2018
lordfalcao:
you that made sense, have you asked why hazard didn't do it in Lille?
Did he not win the league at Lille with a respectable number of goals and assists?
Since Basel what have Salah's goals and assists fetched?
Salah is a great player having a magnificent season, but it isn't one more stick to beat Hazard with abeg.

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popizaino(m): 7:29am On Apr 25, 2018
raumdeuter:


And na tonight be the only time I don talk am? Were you blind when I said the same thing last weekend
double faced assassin you don start again abi?wasn't it because of yesterday match you made reference back to your claim?is that match yesterday an epl match?[sup][/sup]
Unlimited22: 7:39am On Apr 25, 2018
20 goals and 16 assists in 35 appearances in 2011/2012 at 21 in Lille. And he won the league the previous season.
Leave Hazard alone, please.

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popizaino(m): 7:41am On Apr 25, 2018
FBS:

If referring to Salah, I believe scouts did zero until we all saw his display against us for Basel.
Personally, I think the club no get appetite to nurture or develop any player. You should come already firing on all cylinders.
if referring to salah was the reason y you said chelsea doesn't have appetite to nurture players then you goof big time cos salah case had nothing to do with the club but impatient Portuguese parrot who doesn't have a foresight cus even from the comfort of my home here I was been optimistic about salah's chances if given the same time we gave willian and even curdrado.
Chelseafan1: 7:50am On Apr 25, 2018
Unlimited22:
20 goals and 16 assists in 35 appearances in 2011/2012 at 21 in Lille. And he won the league the previous season.
Leave Hazard alone, please.
Hazard whose performances have won us several titles since he ed, won himself so many accolades, just because Salah is doing it for the first time now, dey won't let us rest.

These mumu fans we have here will just be looking for ways to bring Hazard down, even those Man utd fans who made us believe Sanchez's, Depay's, Di Maria's, Pogba's, Martial's acquisition was the best thing in the world. They won't face their players, na to come here come dey drag Hazard.

DopeJemi, I ask you again, in the last 5 years, mention one of your players in Man utd who has done what Salah is doing presently abi u have lost your voice since yesterday.

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Chelseafan1: 7:55am On Apr 25, 2018
airmark:


Shame no catch you that Van dijk that you ed Chelsea not to buy at 60m, was bought at 75m and he has made a huge difference for Liverpool so far. Shame never dey with you.

That guy is something else.
Unlimited22: 7:57am On Apr 25, 2018
Chelseafan1:

Hazard whose performances have won us several titles since he ed, won himself so many accolades, just because Salah is doing it for the first time now, dey won't let us rest.

These mumu fans we have here will just be looking for ways to bring Hazard down, even those Man utd fans who made us believe Sanchez's, Depay's, Di Maria's, Pogba's, Martial's acquisition was the best thing in the world. They won't face their players, na to come here come dey drag Hazard.

DopeJemi, I ask you again, in the last 5 years, mention one of your players in Man utd who has done what Salah is doing presently abi u have lost your voice since yesterday.
You forgot Kagawa. grin grin
The last time a winger had this kind of season in England was Cristiano Ronaldo in 2008. Let us answer for DopeJemi since he's lost his voice.

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popizaino(m): 8:00am On Apr 25, 2018
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Unlimited22:

You forgot Kagawa. grin grin
grin grin grin grin
Chelseafan1: 8:01am On Apr 25, 2018
Unlimited22:

You forgot Kagawa. grin grin

Lol, shameless people.
hensben(m): 8:06am On Apr 25, 2018
Chelseafan1:

Hazard whose performances have won us several titles since he ed, won himself so many accolades, just because Salah is doing it for the first time now, dey won't let us rest.

These mumu fans we have here will just be looking for ways to bring Hazard down, even those Man utd fans who made us believe Sanchez's, Depay's, Di Maria's, Pogba's, Martial's acquisition was the best thing in the world. They won't face their players, na to come here come dey drag Hazard.

DopeJemi, I ask you again, in the last 5 years, mention one of your players in Man utd who has done what Salah is doing presently abi u have lost your voice since yesterday.
Na the reason I Dey attack manure thread. Them too Dey reason irrationally. Them never still humble finish, still Dey duel in SAF’s era for their club.

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Chelseafan1: 8:11am On Apr 25, 2018
hensben:
Na the reason I Dey attack manure thread. Them too Dey reason irrationally. Them never still humble finish, still Dey duel in SAF’s era for their club.

Leave them. Na the Chelsea fans for here wey dey indulge them I blame .

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Nihilstjnr: 8:21am On Apr 25, 2018
one thing I'll say is that Liverpool have a system that works very well for Salah.

Up front, they have 2 very dangerous and fast forwards that occupy defenders and allow Salah do his thing. If you man mark Salah, Firmino will see space. If you Mark 2 of of them, Mane can hurt you...though that one na short 1.

In midfield, instead of playing a deep playmaker, or box to box midfielders, Klopp retrained or bought players with a history of playing on the wing or at number 10. So they can collect the ball in deep positions and carry it upfield with pace.

Then he encourages his 2 full backs to attack as well. Robertson and TAA are practically wingers too.

it's very difficult to focus on just Salah...and so he always seems to have space.

Hazard in that team would probably score more goals. I say probably, because although his teammates are mostly wack and haven't helped him, he also hasn't really helped himself in the last couple of seasons.

He won't have scored that first goal that Salah did. He would have run around, turned back and ed to Kante.

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TalabiAudu: 8:29am On Apr 25, 2018
What is the acronym for Salah Firminho and Mane?

They deserve an acronym abeg
hensben(m): 8:49am On Apr 25, 2018
TalabiAudu:
What is the acronym for Salah Firminho and Mane?

They deserve an acronym abeg
SFM=Switch Fabric Module
Or
So Freeking Much.
Upnepaa(m): 8:55am On Apr 25, 2018
Nihilstjnr:
one thing I'll say is that Liverpool have a system that works very well for Salah.

Up front, they have 2 very dangerous and fast forwards that occupy defenders and allow Salah do his thing. If you man mark Salah, Firmino will see space. If you Mark 2 of of them, Mane can hurt you...though that one na short 1.

In midfield, instead of playing a deep playmaker, or box to box midfielders, Klopp retrained or bought players with a history of playing on the wing or at number 10. So they can collect the ball in deep positions and carry it upfield with pace.

Then he encourages his 2 full backs to attack as well. Robertson and TAA are practically wingers too.

it's very difficult to focus on just Salah...and so he always seems to have space.

Hazard in that team would probably score more goals. I say probably, because although his teammates are mostly wack and haven't helped him, he also hasn't really helped himself in the last couple of seasons.

He won't have scored that first goal that Salah did. He would have run around, turned back and ed to Kante.

Point is,Salah has a better eye for goals than hazard bro.
afrodoc2: 9:46am On Apr 25, 2018
Pius has bad coaches, Pius has bad team mates, Pius is playing in a bad club (their own club o), Pius is selfless to a fault.
One week, one excuse. Is it only Pius that has village people?

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lordfalcao(m): 10:01am On Apr 25, 2018
airmark:


Shame no catch you that Van dijk that you ed Chelsea not to buy at 60m, was bought at 75m and he has made a huge difference for Liverpool so far. Shame never dey with you.
Salah is the biggest difference for Liverpool this season not van dijk.


Questions are still asked all over even after Liverpool spent 75M

Thecassanova:
Has Liverpool defense improved or not?

Unlimited22:
I though Liverpool were supposed to have had a bolstered backline. As usual they concede goals to make them sweat.

Roland17:
While the entire back 4 for Liverpool is struggling, Van Dijk looks like the weakest link.

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lordfalcao(m): 10:04am On Apr 25, 2018
Chelseafan1:


How was their attack, especially Liverpool in the last 5 years they didn't win anything, their team then, and now. Which one is better?
what is your point first? That Salah and kdb going to Liverpool and city is an upgrade and hazard going to Chelsea is a downgrade??

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lordfalcao(m): 10:07am On Apr 25, 2018
Nihilstjnr:
one thing I'll say is that Liverpool have a system that works very well for Salah.

Up front, they have 2 very dangerous and fast forwards that occupy defenders and allow Salah do his thing. If you man mark Salah, Firmino will see space. If you Mark 2 of of them, Mane can hurt you...though that one na short 1.

In midfield, instead of playing a deep playmaker, or box to box midfielders, Klopp retrained or bought players with a history of playing on the wing or at number 10. So they can collect the ball in deep positions and carry it upfield with pace.

Then he encourages his 2 full backs to attack as well. Robertson and TAA are practically wingers too.

it's very difficult to focus on just Salah...and so he always seems to have space.

Hazard in that team would probably score more goals. I say probably, because although his teammates are mostly wack and haven't helped him, he also hasn't really helped himself in the last couple of seasons.

He won't have scored that first goal that Salah did. He would have run around, turned back and ed to Kante.
leave long story and analysis. Hazard is not a player with thirst to be the best and will not change if his mentality doesn't change. Even if he plays under 10 managers

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Skimpledawg(m): 10:16am On Apr 25, 2018
Chelseafan1:


Which Chelsea winger in the last 10 years has been able to do what Salah is doing for Liverpool?
Egbon, this is not good enough.

Is the problem really about Chelsea or Hazard as a player?

I'm not one cut out for lengthy arguments, I don't even have that strength. I like Hazard alot, heck I even nicknamed him "OmoSexy" in my former hood before relocating to Ph. Dude is good, leave story.

But, how do you juxtapose his position and that of Salah in Liverpool. Hazard in this same Liverpool would score goals but we would see more of him attempting to dribble more and to save his life. Why most of us are disappointed in Hazard is because we believed we had got our own 'Messi and Ronaldo' combined together, but oh well.

Quick question... Would the current Salah score more goals and assists than Hazard in this current Chelsea team?

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airmark(m): 10:32am On Apr 25, 2018
lordfalcao:
Salah is the biggest difference for Liverpool this season not van dijk.


Questions are still asked all over even after Liverpool spent 75M


If not for Lovren's mistake dzeko was kept at bay for the most of the game. A Liverpool's team without van dijk would have been knocked out by city by cancelling out goals by sallah. We saw what sevilla did to them.

When you have a solid defence marshalled by a leader who ensured his mates keep shape at the back, kept his position, warding off threats from strikers, your team will have confidence to go on all attack.

Go and tell klopp or Gerrard or any sensible Liverpool fan, that van dijk has added nothing to their defence, if you will not receive a knock on your dumb head.

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airmark(m): 10:44am On Apr 25, 2018
Chelseafan1:


That guy is something else.

Ask elrony about him. He calls stupidity, lordfalcaoism. cheesy
Chelseafan1: 10:46am On Apr 25, 2018
Skimpledawg:

Egbon, this is not good enough.

Is the problem really about Chelsea or Hazard as a player?

I'm not one cut out for lengthy arguments, I don't even have that strength. I like Hazard alot, heck I even nicknamed him "OmoSexy" in my former hood before relocating to Ph. Dude is good, leave story.

But, how do you juxtapose his position and that of Salah in Liverpool. Hazard in this same Liverpool would score goals but we would see more of him attempting to dribble more and to save his life. Why most of us are disappointed in Hazard is because we believed we had got our own 'Messi and Ronaldo' combined together, but oh well.

Quick question... Would the current Salah score more goals and assists than Hazard in this current Chelsea team?

This is the question I asked you, you didn't answer me, told you Hazard made the biggest mistake of his life by choosing Chelsea, you said No. Answer this question, think about it.


Which Chelsea winger in the last 10 years has been able to do what Salah is doing for Liverpool?

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Chelseafan1: 10:52am On Apr 25, 2018
lordfalcao:
what is your point first? That Salah and kdb going to Liverpool and city is an upgrade and hazard going to Chelsea is a downgrade??

You like twisting words. Hazard made the biggest mistake of his life ing Chelsea.

Whichever way you wanna interpret this statement is fine by you. Thank God, these other two players played alongside Hazard in the same Chelsea team, we know who was retained, who was the star man while the other two were shipped away.

Nihilist has explained to you why Man city and Liverpool have helped Salah and KDB make remarkable progress.

We also saw how Sanchez was a beast at Arsenal, only to Man utd and regressed.

If you still don't understand my points, just forget about it.

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Chelseafan1: 11:03am On Apr 25, 2018
afrodoc2:

Pius has bad coaches, Pius has bad team mates, Pius is playing in a bad club (their own club o), Pius is selfless to a fault.
One week, one excuse. Is it only Pius that has village people?

Maybe you can help us answer and not hide like others.

In the last 10 years, which Chelsea winger has been able to do what Salah is currently doing for Liverpool.

Just mention one. Just one. Was it Robben, Joe Cole, Malouda, Kalou, Marin, Cuadrado, Salah or who exactly.

You can even extend it to 15 years.

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raumdeuter: 11:35am On Apr 25, 2018
Chelseafan1:


Maybe you can help us answer and not hide like others.

In the last 10 years, which Chelsea winger has been able to do what Salah is currently doing for Liverpool.

Just mention one. Just one. Was it Robben, Joe Cole, Malouda, Kalou, Marin, Cuadrado, Salah or who exactly.

You can even extend it to 15 years.

Before Sallah which Liverpool winger has done what Sallah is currently doing?
Is it sterling, Lallana, coutinho or who
Why can't hidden hazard be the reference point like Sallah is instead of looking for useless excuses upandan

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