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pazienza:


Who is Emmanuel Okotie Eboh, lol!
He is entitled to his own opinions and interpretation of events, but not to his own facts!



Show me direct quote from the coup plotters, including Ademoyega, calling the Coup an Igbo coup, and I would rest my case.

If you can't do this after 50 years of your lies, what does that say about your demonic nature of propagating a calumny and hate campaign against an Ethnic group in bid to justify the massacre of innocent Igbo civilians by Nigerians?

That's the most disgusting thing about all of this. All of this propaganda is designed to legitimise the murder of almost 3 million innocent civilians, including those killed in the pogroms. This is why I don't care when Kanu and co call Nigeria a zoo. They have no regard for human life.

25thJOE:
Nigeria's problem started after the biafra war, the war brought disunity and distrust between the northern and the southern part of the country. When there is no unity amongst the different tribes of Nigeria, we won't move forward economically neither combat corruption .

Anytime I see someone claiming that the Igbos/Biafran war started the problems we are witnessing today in Nigeria, I just show them this:

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSosECbcmM

Ngozi123:


It's good that you it that the North has always been bloodthirsty. Why, then would you blame the Igbos for starting the civil war whilst still acknowledging this?

You say in one line that the North is bloodthirsty "and with little patience" yet in the very next line you say that "Igbo actions led to the civil war"? Surely, in the first line, you're itting to the North's culpability in the build up to the Biafran war?

Always trying to put all the blames on others and canonising the Igbos as pacifists. You guys, all you igbophilic defenders always put yourself in complex matrixes of binds and that is the reasons for your so long a piece to extricate, explain, pontificate, harrassed, berate, intimidate etc.

There is a dysfunctional flaw in all your arguments and that is what you guys are trying so hard to explain, news flash! The obvious is obvious, it is an igbo coup. If you can't deal with it there is no way i can help you.Gogo.

Dumaknesset:



Always trying to put all the blames on others and canonising the Igbos as pacifists. You guys, all you igbophilic defenders always put yourself in complex matrixes of binds and that is the reasons for your so long a piece to extricate, explain, pontificate, harrassed, berate, intimidate etc.

There is a dysfunctional flaw in all your arguments and that is what you guys are trying so hard to explain, news flash! The obvious is obvious, it is an igbo coup. If you can't deal with it there is no way i can help you.Gogo.

You're just listing words here... I cannot take this post seriously.

Hmmmmm

Ngozi123:


You're just listing words here... I cannot take this post seriously.

Neither can I take yours or others trying to re-write history seriously by your poor attempt at insulting our collective sensibilities. If you noticed, I was only trying to show you guys the flaws in your arguments, that is why it is difficult for you guys to know how to react to it.
I could not issues on such absurdities.

This Awo and Fajuyi conspiracy amateurishly woven by you guys is a red herring and I have told guys that cared to listen to ignore it. If you run with such hare brain argument or idea, alot of absurdities will have a free rein, hence the idiocy been spewed all over this thread.

I enjoy knocking the bottom off things.

Ngozi123:


Anytime I see someone claiming that the Igbos/Biafran war started the problems we are witnessing today in Nigeria, I just show them this:

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSosECbcmM

Some two or three years ago when I first watched this Sardauna clip I was shocked even though I had always known that he just like Awolowo and Zik were tribalist as were almost all the leading politicians of that era

But this now is my point: The danger of a single story (thanks to Chimamanda A). When you post such a video always to post the following to balance the sums in the ethno tribal equation:
'the domination of Nigeria and Africa by the Igbo is only a matter of time”. Charles Dadi Onyeama member central legislative council representing Enugu spoken at the Igbo state of the union address in 1945. http://www.timesng.com/opinion/142477-the-bitter-truth-about-the-igbo-by-femi-fani-kayode.html

Azikiwe in a statement published by the Daily service had also said that the god of the Igbos had given them the leadership over Nigeria. http://www.timesng.com/opinion/164552-why-we-should-split-nigeria-now-by-damola-awoyokun.html

They were all tribalists (Nigerians generally still are) and really without justifying our founding fathers I prefer their own kind of tribalism because everyone knows what Sardauna achieved for the North then in of development and Awolowo too for the Southwest because their tribalism was born out of genuine love they had for their people unlike our politicians today whose tribalism is empty, devoid of love even for their own kin.

This is what irks my soul: we will all hands and condemn my brother for his reprehensible actions but when your brother does something condemnable, you shield him, you hide him, you try to justify his actions by pointing to my brother who has already been roundly condemned by ALL.

Me I say Mbanu to such. Let us all bear responsibility for our actions. Nigeria's problem absolutely did not start with the civil war. The things that have happened in Nigeria have been caused by a confluence of factors, of attitudes, decisions and actions by the actors each one building upon the other and setting the stage for the next. Do not point your fingers at Sarduana. We are all guilty.

Mujtahida:

Some two or three years ago when I first watched this Sardauna clip I was shocked even though I had always known that he just like Awolowo and Zik were tribalist as were almost all the leading politicians of that era

But this now is my point: The danger of a single story (thanks to Chimamanda A). When you post such a video always to post the following to balance the sums in the ethno tribal equation:
'the domination of Nigeria and Africa by the Igbo is only a matter of time”. Charles Dadi Onyeama member central legislative council representing Enugu spoken at the Igbo state of the union address in 1945. http://www.timesng.com/opinion/142477-the-bitter-truth-about-the-igbo-by-femi-fani-kayode.html

Azikiwe in a statement published by the Daily service had also said that the god of the Igbos had given them the leadership over Nigeria. http://www.timesng.com/opinion/164552-why-we-should-split-nigeria-now-by-damola-awoyokun.html

They were all tribalists (Nigerians generally still are) and really without justifying our founding fathers I prefer their own kind of tribalism because everyone knows what Sardauna achieved for the North then in of development and Awolowo too for the Southwest because their tribalism was born out of genuine love they had for their people unlike our politicians today whose tribalism is empty, devoid of love even for their own kin.

This is what irks my soul: we will all hands and condemn my brother for his reprehensible actions but when your brother does something condemnable, you shield him, you hide him, you try to justify his actions by pointing to my brother who has already been roundly condemned by ALL.

Me I say Mbanu to such. Let us all bear responsibility for our actions. Nigeria's problem absolutely did not start with the civil war. The things that have happened in Nigeria have been caused by a confluence of factors, of attitudes, decisions and actions by the actors each one building upon the other and setting the stage for the next. Do not point your fingers at Sarduana. We are all guilty.

As always, another trash coming from you. Trying to justify a malignant Igbophobic tirade from your Arewa overlords.

Onyeama was speaking of domination purely on merit basis. Igbos were pushing the boundaries of education development and industrialization, Onyeama rightly noted that if that trend continues, Igbos would not only dominate Nigeria but also Africa.
Today, analysts do forecast the nations likely to dominate the world economy and politics in decades to come based on the current developmental trajectory of those nations. That's exactly what Onyeama did, nothing Igbos had in that era that was not earned through hard work and merit. If you feel you don't want Igbo domination, then all you needed do was out work them, out compete them in developmental strides and not start spreading hate messages.

Nnamdi Azikiwe was addressing an Igbo gathering, and he needed to inspire them. He made them feel they were the best,which is what is expected of every leader, so that they can aspire to be the best and work towards it through hard work, he also told them that they had been destined to suffer ( I guess you purposely left out that part of the speech) because he wanted them to be too prepared and determined for success that suffering should mean nothing to them.

He never talked about subjugating other Nigerian groups, he was only interested in lifting the spirits of his fellow Igbos and charging them to soar high.
And they did respond as the Igbo quickly closed the gap Yorubas had on us by sheer luck of meeting the colonials first, by enrolling in mass into school and through government, community and personal scholarship programs.

You lots are really demonic if you see nothing wrong with Saraduna hate speech against Ndiigbo.
I pity silly Igbos that want to share a country with you lots.

pazienza:


As always, another trash coming from you. Trying to justify a malignant Igbophobic tirade from your Arewa overlords.

Onyeama was speaking of domination purely on merit basis. Igbos were pushing the boundaries of education development and industrialization, Onyeama rightly noted that if that trend continues, Igbos would not only dominate Nigeria but also Africa.
Today, analysts do forecast the nations likely to dominate the world economy and politics in decades to come based on the current developmental trajectory of those nations. That's exactly what Onyeama did, nothing Igbos had in that era that was not earned through hard work and merit. If you feel you don't want Igbo domination, then all you needed do was out work them, out compete them in developmental strides and not start spreading hate messages.

Nnamdi Azikiwe was addressing an Igbo gathering, and he needed to inspire them. He made them feel they were the best,which is what is expected of every leader, so that they can aspire to be the best and work towards it through hard work, he also told them that they had been destined to suffer ( I guess you purposely left out that part of the speech) because he wanted them to be too prepared and determined for success that suffering should mean nothing to them.

He never talked about subjugating other Nigerian groups, he was only interested in lifting the spirits of his fellow Igbos and charging them to soar high.
And they did respond as the Igbo quickly closed the gap Yorubas had on us by sheer luck of meeting the colonials first, by enrolling in mass into school and through government, community and personal scholarship programs.

You lots are really demonic if you see nothing wrong with Saraduna hate speech against Ndiigbo.
I pity silly Igbos that want to share a country with you lots.

Na so. As usual.
This your insult laden, self righteous, grandstanding post made me laugh long and hard. You never cry make you cry finish, you cry so tay you call your people SILLY. Not once since we started this discussion have I insulted you or called you names yet your mouth foams full of curses and bitterness because you are in pains Mazi. The day you look into the mirror and see yourself is the day you'd be healed. And I am sure you will never be healed because nothing scares you like the mirror, nothing scares you like sincere heartfelt, healing self- reflection.
Here are some temporary painkillers; pick one tablet:
Sardauna was a tribalist.
Azikiwe was a tribalist
Awolowo was a tribalist

Let me fly away like a demon. Adios amigos

Mujtahida:

Na so. As usual.
This your insult laden, self righteous, grandstanding post made me laugh long and hard. You never cry make you cry finish, you cry so tay you call your people SILLY. Not once since we started this discussion have I insulted you or called you names yet your mouth foams full of curses and bitterness because you are in pains Mazi. The day you look into the mirror and see yourself is the day you'd be healed. And I am sure you will never be healed because nothing scares you like the mirror, nothing scares you like sincere heartfelt, healing self- reflection.
Here are some temporary painkillers; pick one tablet:
Sardauna was a tribalist.
Azikiwe was a tribalist
Awolowo was a tribalist

Let me fly away like a demon. Adios amigos

You expected a hand shake from me while you justify an video laden with Igbo hate by turning logic on it's head?

WE THE UNITED STATES OF SOUTH SOUTH FORMALLY KNOWN SOUTH SOUTHERN NIGERIANS , DO NOT WANT TO EMERGE WITH NIGERIA ,BIAFRA AND ODUDUWA REPUBLIC , WE NEED OUR FREEDOM , AND WE WANT OUR OWN COUNTRY AND NATION OF OUR OWN ... FOR OUR LAND IS GOD'S OWN PARADISE

Mujtahida:

Na so. As usual.
This your insult laden, self righteous, grandstanding post made me laugh long and hard. You never cry make you cry finish, you cry so tay you call your people SILLY. Not once since we started this discussion have I insulted you or called you names yet your mouth foams full of curses and bitterness because you are in pains Mazi. The day you look into the mirror and see yourself is the day you'd be healed. And I am sure you will never be healed because nothing scares you like the mirror, nothing scares you like sincere heartfelt, healing self- reflection.
Here are some temporary painkillers; pick one tablet:
Sardauna was a tribalist.
Azikiwe was a tribalist
Awolowo was a tribalist

Let me fly away like a demon. Adios amigos

Is it possible to be a pan-Africanist and a tribalist at the same time?

Ngozi123:


Is it possible to be a pan-Africanist and a tribalist at the same time?

You mean Zik? Well, he started off as a "pan-Africanist" journalist but ended up a tribalist politician.

Volksfuhrer:


You mean Zik? Well, he started off as a "pan-Africanist" journalist but ended up a tribalist politician.

He was always a pan-Africanist and was an advocate for 'One Nigeria' even when his people were getting slaughtered. Why would a tribalist a united Nigeria when his own people had gained independence? Can you imagine Awo or the Sardauna doing such a thing? I can't...

Ngozi123:


Is it possible to be a pan-Africanist and a tribalist at the same time?

Hahahaha hahahaha why not? Pan Africanism na cure for tribalism? Azikiwe's pan Africanism was a reaction to Western hegemonic and colonial matrix that had held the whole of black Africa in its grip for almost 200 years. Azikiwe ed hands with people like Leopold Senghor, kwame Nkrumah, Kenneth Kaunda and others to dismantle colonialism in Africa. And that was that. As divided and fractured as Nigerians are today they will unite under their Nigerianism to fight off Europeans and even other Africans as numerous twitter wars have shown. It doesn't stop them afterwards from later yapping at each other. Same thing Azikiwe's Africanism.

Is it really difficult to accept that he was a tribalist? Na wa ooo. This readiness to condemn others and at the same time justify and exonerate your own from the same condemnable action and attitude is precisely where the problem lies. When someone points his fingers and says yours too is guilty that person will be called an igbophobe. Maka why?

Ngozi123:


He was always a pan-Africanist and was an advocate for 'One Nigeria' even when his people were getting slaughtered. Why would a tribalist a united Nigeria when his own people had gained independence? Can you imagine Awo or the Sardauna doing such a thing? I can't...

Your argument is a non sequitur.

There are many tribalists in the North who currently 'One Nigeria'!

Mujtahida:

Hahahaha hahahaha why not? Pan Africanism na cure for tribalism? Azikiwe's pan Africanism was a reaction to Western hegemonic and colonial matrix that had held the whole of black Africa in its grip for almost 200 years. Azikiwe ed hands with people like Leopold Senghor, kwame Nkrumah, Kenneth Kaunda and others to dismantle colonialism in Africa. And that was that. As divided and fractured as Nigerians are today they will unite under their Nigerianism to fight off Europeans and even other Africans as numerous twitter wars have shown. It doesn't stop them afterwards from later yapping at each other. Same thing Azikiwe's Africanism.

Is it really difficult to accept that he was a tribalist? Na wa ooo. This readiness to condemn others and at the same time justify and exonerate your own from the same condemnable action and attitude is precisely where the problem lies. When someone points his fingers and says yours too is guilty that person will be called an igbophobe. Maka why?

The person two places above you gave a far better for himself in response to my question . I didn't ask you why Zik was a pan-Africanist; I simply asked you how it was possible to be a pan-Africanist and a tribalist at the same time.

Look at the definitions of both words:

'Pan-Africanist' is define as "The principle or advocacy of the political union of all the indigenous inhabitants of Africa."
'Tribalism' is defined as (derogatory) "The behaviour and attitudes that stem from strong loyalty to one's own tribe or social group."

Now, how is it possible to strive for the political union between all African groups as Zik so strenuously did yet still remain completely loyal to your own ethnic group? In all political unions, there has to be some form of compromise, something that Zik was all too willing to do in Nigeria, and sometimes you'd end up putting the immediate interests of your people at the back of the queue in order to achieve greatness as a whole. Zik, and many others at the time, saw Nigeria as Africa's 'Great Hope' and believed that the Igbos staying in it would increase the chances of this happening.

Tldr: Zik maintaining his 'One Nigeria' stance throughout the Biafran War proves that he really was a Nigerian first and an Igbo man second.

Volksfuhrer:


Your argument is a non sequitur.

There are many tribalists in the North who currently 'One Nigeria'!

I disagree. They Nigeria the way it is, not a 'united' Nigeria, in the true sense of the word. I only say 'One Nigeria' as it's quite a catchy phrase but what I really mean is an 'unjust Nigeria'.

Volksfuhrer:


You mean Zik? Well, he started off as a "pan-Africanist" journalist but ended up a tribalist politician.

It could even be said that Awolowo started as a tribalist and ended up as a pan Nigerian advocate. His legacy has already dwarfed that of his contemporaries and he will continue to be relevant. In this present time I often say that Awolowo holds the key. Let anyone who doubts me get a copy of his book 'Thoughts on the Nigerian Constitution' and read. You will marvel at the depth of wisdom and originality he put into crafting a system that caters to the interest of all the Ethnic groups in this country. I just read Tony Nyiam, one of the chief protagonists of the 1990 coup say in an interview that Awolowo understood politics and that he was a strategist and he directly related the aim of 1990 coup as espousing Awoist principles.

Was he faultless? No! Not at all.

He was the best president Nigeria never had- Ojukwu.
History will justify him just as history is gradually justifying the Furher

Ngozi123:


The person two places above you gave a far better for himself in response to my question . I didn't ask you why Zik was a pan-Africanist; I simply asked you how it was possible to be a pan-Africanist and a tribalist at the same time.

Look at the definitions of both words:

'Pan-Africanist' is define as "The principle or advocacy of the political union of all the indigenous inhabitants of Africa."
'Tribalism' is defined as (derogatory) "The behaviour and attitudes that stem from strong loyalty to one's own tribe or social group."

Now, how is it possible to strive for the political union between all African groups as Zik so strenuously did yet still remain completely loyal to your own ethnic group? In all political unions, there has to be some form of compromise, something that Zik was all too willing to do in Nigeria, and sometimes you'd end up putting the immediate interests of your people at the back of the queue in order to achieve greatness as a whole. Zik, and many others at the time, saw Nigeria as Africa's 'Great Hope' and believed that the Igbos staying in it would increase the chances of this happening.

Tldr: Zik maintaining his 'One Nigeria' stance throughout the Biafran War proves that he really was a Nigerian first and an Igbo man second.

If you do not understand the why of his pan Africanism you cannot understand how his pan Africanism could not be an antidote to his tribalism.
I repeat Azikiwe was a tribalist
Awolowo was a tribalist
Sardauna was a tribalist
You are free to pick your Saint among them.
As for me I own all of them, warts and all.

Ngozi123:


I disagree. They Nigeria the way it is, not a 'united' Nigeria, in the true sense of the word. I only say 'One Nigeria' as it's quite a catchy phrase but what I really mean is an 'unjust Nigeria'.

That Nigeria is just or not is not the point. The crux of the matter is whether it's possible to love a united Nigeria for ulterior tribalist motives.

USSSFEDERATION:
WE THE UNITED STATES OF SOUTH SOUTH FORMALLY KNOWN SOUTH SOUTHERN NIGERIANS , DO NOT WANT TO EMERGE WITH NIGERIA ,BIAFRA AND ODUDUWA REPUBLIC , WE NEED OUR FREEDOM , AND WE WANT OUR OWN COUNTRY AND NATION OF OUR OWN ... FOR OUR LAND IS GOD'S OWN PARADISE

You must have been binging on expired akamere.

pazienza:


You expected a hand shake from me while you justify an video laden with Igbo hate by turning logic on it's head?

No I expected no handshake from you. Your heart is too full of bile for you to extend a handshake to me. I expected you to twist and turn, spin and slither and you did not disappoint.
Go back and read the justifying slant you gave to Charles Dadi Onyeama's statement and then reason this often repeated statement attributed by other Nigerians to the Northern elites: born to rule.
Do you see what I am saw?

Mujtahida:

No I expected no handshake from you. Your heart is too full of bile for you to extend a handshake to me. I expected you to twist and turn, spin and slither and you did not disappoint.
Go back and read the justifying slant you gave to Charles Dadi Onyeama's statement and then reason this often repeated statement attributed by other Nigerians to the Northern elites: born to rule.
Do you see what I am saw?

You are yet to show me the hate message or desire to subjugate others in Onyeama's statement.
So if I say that Nigeria is going to dominate Africa in the next few decades, it automatically translates to hate speech against other Africans?Even when there is no evidence of Nigerians invading those countries?
So it's now a crime to aspire to be the best amongst one's equals?



How exactly can one seeking to be the best be translated to born to rule? You see my grouse with you lots? This is how you murdered excellence and promoted incompetence and you wonder why the country failed. Your penchant for turning logic on its head is demonic.

Mujtahida:

If you do not understand the why of his pan Africanism you cannot understand how his pan Africanism could not be an antidote to his tribalism.
I repeat Azikiwe was a tribalist
Awolowo was a tribalist
Sardauna was a tribalist
You are free to pick your Saint among them.
As for me I own all of them, warts and all.

Very funny.I can't tell why some of you will ever want to rob others your flaws.If Sarduna and Awo were tribalists dat doesn't mean Zik was too.Zik was a pan Africanist even when he domesticated his efforts on Nigeria's independence. Let's be sincere for once.

pazienza:


You are yet to show me the hate message or desire to subjugate others in Onyeama's statement.
So if I say that Nigeria is going to dominate Africa in the next few decades, it automatically translates to hate speech against other Africans?Even when there is no evidence of Nigerians invading those countries?
So it's now a crime to aspire to be the best amongst one's equals?



How exactly can one seeking to be the best be translated to born to rule? You see my grouse with you lots? This is how you murdered excellence and promoted incompetence and you wonder why the country failed. Your penchant for turning logic on its head is demonic.

As always it is your own logic that I reflect back to you.
Of course I knew you'd never see the internal logic and relationship between the statement of Onyeama and the born to rule mentality because you hate the mirror. You like showing it to others but when the mirror is put before you, you begin to flap about and cry that one is justifying execrable actions and attitudes. Your analogy about Nigeria dominating Africa is psychologically false when put in the same bracket as Onyeama's statement. I press this point about the men of that era including yours as being tribalist because all of them not only made statements loaded with barefaced tribal statements and innuendoes but it showed in their actions.

Your logic on Onyeama's statement is that Igbos will dominate Nigeria through education. The Hausa and Fulani elites say they will dominate because it is their birth right to do so. Both of them are wrong. Education is not a tool for domination. To say so is to weaponise education. Do I hate education or meritocracy? No. But I detest the man who wants to dominate another by using education as his tool and the man who thinks by reason of his birth or heritage he can rule and dominate others. Both of them are the same! And no wonder they hate each other.

Mujtahida:

As always it is your own logic that I reflect back to you.
Of course I knew you'd never see the internal logic and relationship between the statement of Onyeama and the born to rule mentality because you hate the mirror. You like showing it to others but when the mirror is put before you, you begin to flap about and cry that one is justifying execrable actions and attitudes. Your analogy about Nigeria dominating Africa is psychologically false when put in the same bracket as Onyeama's statement. I press this point about the men of that era including yours as being tribalist because all of them not only made statements loaded with barefaced tribal statements and innuendoes but it showed in their actions.

Your logic on Onyeama's statement is that Igbos will dominate Nigeria through education. The Hausa and Fulani elites say they will dominate because it is their birth right to do so. Both of them are wrong. Education is not a tool for domination. To say so is to weaponise education. Do I hate education or meritocracy? No. But I detest the man who wants to dominate another by using education as his tool and the man who by thinks by reason of his birth or heritage he can rule and dominate others. Both of them are the same! And no wonder they hate each other.

Very well articulated. No fluff, and straight to the point.

Your post just sums up the problem of this country: the imperative of one ethnic group to dominate the others.

Volksfuhrer:


Very well articulated. No fluff, and straight to the point.

Your post just sums up the problem of this country: the imperative of one ethnic group to dominate the others.

And justify it through dangerous sophistry. Tribalism is our own racism and we are consummate practitioners and defenders of it. I watched the African American Professor Smalls in a youtube video paint such a glorious but naive picture of Africa when he was advocating for African Americans to come back to Africa and contribute to nation building, that they'd be free from the racism they experience in America. I just shook my head. They will be shocked if ever they do so.

Mujtahida:

And justify it through dangerous sophistry. Tribalism is our own racism and we are consummate practitioners and defenders of it. I watched the African American Professor Smalls in a youtube video paint such a glorious but naive picture of Africa when he was advocating for African Americans to come back to Africa and contribute to nation building, that they'd be free from the racism they experience in America. I just shook my head. They will be shocked if ever they do so.

I'm sick and tired of it. Each ethnic group wants to be at the top solely because it's a crass opportunity to exercise dominion over the other groups. And even worse, while on top, they gloat over their vulgar accomplishment.

The Tutsis lorded it over Hutus; and when power changed hands, Hutus returned the favour, shouting 'Hutu power' up and down. It is pretty petty-minded, and it's all over the African continent: hence our underdevelopment.

It is very sad.

Volksfuhrer:


I'm sick and tired of it. Each ethnic group wants to be at the top solely because it's a crass opportunity to exercise dominion over the other groups. And even worse, while on top, they gloat over their vulgar accomplishment.

The Tutsis lorded it over Hutus; and when power changed hands, Hutus returned the favour, shouting 'Hutu power' up and down. It is pretty petty-minded, and it's all over the African continent: hence our underdevelopment.

It is very sad.

It is through the eyes of the minorities that these things can be seen in proper perspective.
The minorities in the old Eastern region cried about domination by the Igbos. Fact!
The minorities in the Northern region cried and were wary of domination by the Hausa and Fulani. That was the rational behind the formation of the United Middle Belt Congress even before Independence.
Fact!

Today with the renewed clamour for Biafra the minorities in the South South have obstinately refused to be co-opt into the Biafran project despite the pleas and entreaties of many Igbos. What is the fear of the minorities: Domination
On the front page of Nairaland, Jerry Gana has been reported as saying that the minorities in the Middlebelt will not in the event of a break up follow Arewa into the Sahel Savannah. What is the fear? Domination
This historic fears are not phantoms created by the infantile imaginations of the minorities but these fears are borne out of experience.
What is difficult about everyone having some measure of fair and equal opportunity to contribute to nation building. Instead we have erected a system where one tribe Lords it over all in sharing national resource and another tribe yearns for the opportunity to do so today or tomorrow.

Truly like you have noted, it is not even the domination that is the problem. It is the in - your- face- arrogance, the contempt and grandstanding that goes along with it that vulgarizes the whole thing. Once anything of national significance is achieved the markers of ethnic s abi NCAN as they are called will check assiduously to determine the Ethnic extraction of the person or party involved. Once it is theirs ohh boy they will begin not only to sing the praises of their ethnic group (which in itself is a good thing) but to taunt and mock other ethnic groups. Hatred is engineered, malice, spite and animosity is brewed and from time to time we get served that special tonic to teach us all veritable lessons but we never learn. Ethnic domination for whatever reason is counter productive. Our fathers tried it. They failed. We are trying it. We are also going to fail.

Mujtahida:

As always it is your own logic that I reflect back to you.
Of course I knew you'd never see the internal logic and relationship between the statement of Onyeama and the born to rule mentality because you hate the mirror. You like showing it to others but when the mirror is put before you, you begin to flap about and cry that one is justifying execrable actions and attitudes. Your analogy about Nigeria dominating Africa is psychologically false when put in the same bracket as Onyeama's statement. I press this point about the men of that era including yours as being tribalist because all of them not only made statements loaded with barefaced tribal statements and innuendoes but it showed in their actions.

Your logic on Onyeama's statement is that Igbos will dominate Nigeria through education. The Hausa and Fulani elites say they will dominate because it is their birth right to do so. Both of them are wrong. Education is not a tool for domination. To say so is to weaponise education. Do I hate education or meritocracy? No. But I detest the man who wants to dominate another by using education as his tool and the man who thinks by reason of his birth or heritage he can rule and dominate others. Both of them are the same! And no wonder they hate each other.

So a pupil who seek to top his class and be the numero uno is wrong and shouldn't dream and talk about that, as it might belittle his class mates if he comes top?

No one should strive to be top even if by hardwork, Everyone should just remain mediocre to avoid dominating the others?
Wow! Nice logic. What a good way to build a highly competitive top class nation.

Weaponize education? How so? What sort of twisted logic is that?

How exactly you can relate that to a man who seeks to dominate others, not by out working them, but by use of violence is a wonder.

Obviously, your world view is different from Igbo world view. The Igbo society is built on competition, where all seek to dominate and out do each other through hardwork, and in the end, all end up raising the standard of each other and bettering the entire community.
How exactly we can relate this to the North that seek to dominate via violence and coercion is beyond me.

What you seek to do is to keep the eagle walking, in other for it not to dominate the chickens who have wings but decided not to fly. And this is exactly why the Igbo would continue to resist your one Nigeria of mediocrity.

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So a pupil who seek to top his class and be the numero uno is wrong and shouldn't dream and talk about that, as it might belittle his class mates if he comes top?

No one should strive to be top even if by hardwork, Everyone should just remain mediocre to avoid dominating the others?
Wow! Nice logic. What a good way to build a highly competitive top class nation.

Weaponize education? How so? What sort of twisted logic is that?

How exactly you can relate that to a man who seeks to dominate others, not by out working them, but by use of violence is a wonder.

Obviously, your world view is different from Igbo world view. The Igbo society is built on competition, where all seek to dominate and out do each other through hardwork, and in the end, all end up raising the standard of each other and bettering the entire community.
How exactly we can relate this to the North that seek to dominate via violence and coercion is beyond me.

What you seek to do is to keep the eagle walking, in other for it not to dominate the chickens who have wings but decided not to fly. And this is exactly why the Igbo would continue to resist your one Nigeria of mediocrity.

That your first paragraph. I know it's an analogy so let me bring my own reality into it. Me I no know which school you go ooo but mehn my own school then Airforce Primary and Secondary Schools were the best of the best with red hot guys yet I can't that they went about boasting and bragging and seeking to dominate. In fact they were the most unassuming guys. They were just like the rest, no airs, only their results spoke for them and they were really respected. Who born you make you no respect them. It was ther due. They freely evoked from others respect, iration, and the desire to do same. Had they sought to be 'dominant' I have no doubt that they would have continued to top charts but they would have failed in human relations. I think this is why the Yorubas are said to be sophisticated.

But seriously to frame this discourse in this way, as in as if I am saying that the best should wallow in the mud of mediocrity just so the cult of mediocrity can be feted (and I always envisaged you'd tow this path) is to miss my point. Remove that word 'dominate'. That is my simple point.
It makes you and the born to rule the same. By all means be your best. Let us have the best. Not to dominate our fellow country men but rather to inspire, to enlighten, to serve and push everybody towards prosperity.