NewStats: 3,263,633 , 8,180,871 topics. Date: Saturday, 07 June 2025 at 12:40 AM 5i1w63

brocab:
I am Pentecostal, plus I never asked for the name of your Church, I said I know you go to a Catholic Church. Names on buildings doesn't matter-it's who we believe in matters.
But of course you wouldn't understand that sayng...

HAHAHA, it is clear u are even ashamed to name ur church, ur church really seem nameless weldone.

next time when u feel to urge to go church bashing u belong to a nameless church founded by men.

Just by your own statement I can see how easy it is for you to twist the wording around to suit your standards, just like you nor I had mentioned each others Church names.
You have a pointless argument, because I didn't mention a Church Name, you are jumping up and down having some sort of a pride moment. How silly does this sound, many times in the past I have mentioned I don't seek after a Church building, and still you can't understand that little bit of knowledge.
Man, Jesus isn't in buildings made of brick and mortar, especially not in the Catholic Church, "No" He lives in the hearts of Men and Women who fully believe in Him, Which of course with pure evidence you have failed to do so.
The last laugh is back at you-you silly bugger-Ha.

Ubenedictus:
HAHAHA, it is clear u are even ashamed to name ur church, ur church really seem nameless weldone.

next time when u feel to urge to go church bashing u belong to a nameless church founded by men.

Everywhere your name is written, that is my evidence.

Ubenedictus:
I really dont have us time, but if u are going to accuse me of telling lies u should produce the post where i did.

Uben I do you saying with the rest of your lying comrades that all denominations belong to the Catholic Church from the beginning?
I have been waiting for you to be truthful so I belong to the Catholic Church found by men. Finely you have itted to the truth.
"Sucker"

Ubenedictus:
HAHAHA, it is clear u are even ashamed to name ur church, ur church really seem nameless weldone.

next time when u feel to urge to go church bashing u belong to a nameless church founded by men.

brocab:
Uben I do you saying with the rest of your lying comrades that all denominations belong to the Catholic Church from the beginning?
I have been waiting for you to be truthful so I belong to the Catholic Church found by men. Finely you have itted to the truth.
"Sucker"

Oh, it seems u forgot how ur various pastor left the catholic church and founded their own temples.

No second prizes. Not forgetting how my various Pastor was one of yours, so of course everything he had learn was straight out of the Catholic Church.
So he spread the pagan religion further into existence, preaching another gospel that doesn't line up with the Word of God, collecting large amounts of Money, building Mega temples Just like his daddy's temple {The Vatican}

Ubenedictus:
Oh, it seems u forgot how ur various pastor left the catholic church and founded their own temples.

brocab:
No second prizes. Not forgetting how my various Pastor was one of yours, so of course everything he had learn was straight out of the Catholic Church.
So he spread the pagan religion further into existence, preaching another gospel that doesn't line up with the Word of God, collecting large amounts of Money, building Mega temples Just like his daddy's temple {The Vatican}

Sorry dear, ur pastors rejected the truth and decided to do the own stuff. That is why you still cant name ur church.

brocab:
No second prizes. Not forgetting how my various Pastor was one of yours, so of course everything he had learn was straight out of the Catholic Church.
So he spread the pagan religion further into existence, preaching another gospel that doesn't line up with the Word of God, collecting large amounts of Money, building Mega temples Just like his daddy's temple {The Vatican}

Nah! ur pastors took the gospel and corrupted it after adding their heresies.

We all know why the protestants left the Mother Church, it doesn't take rocket science to work it out.
This topic isn't going anywhere, not once will you listen to anybody else, only yourself being a self-righteousness person, you really believe you have all the answers.
Never have you listened to the truth, Christ lives in the hearts of man kind, not in a Building made of Brick and mortar, and what Church does Christ hold-that shows demonic Statue's around above it's boundaries, "None"
Very few protestant's, stands side by side with the Vatican.
I will name my protestant Church, how about the C.O.C, Church of Christ, and the A.O.G Assemblies of God, Calvary Church, Kings Church, Hill Songs, I have fellowship with the Baptize Church, and the List continual's, all Churches preach differently, but all Churches connect concerning Christ.
How about you, name your Church?
Any Church will do, because we already know why many of our pastors had left your Church, with good reason your Church carries the Lords name in vain, which of course, it doesn't hold the truth about Christ?
{Exodus 20:6-8} But showing loving kindness to thousands who love Me, and keep My Commandments.
Which Commandments does your Church obey?
Your Church starting in the beginning of failure, by causing the world to worship after the Sunday pagan 'Sun god, a Church bowing down to a pagan statue naming her, Queen of heaven, Mother of God, a She mediator, you believe will bring you to the light.
Queen Isis had re-began.
It isn't rocket science, knowing any truth why the pastors had left. What other Church you claim that belongs to Christ-holds Pagan religion just as good as the Catholic Church holds?
"None"

Ubenedictus:
Sorry dear, ur pastors rejected the truth and decided to do the own stuff. That is why you still cant name ur church.

The Pastors never corrupted it, they corrected it, from the lies and wonders your Church produce to the world.

Ubenedictus:
Nah! ur pastors took the gospel and corrupted it after adding their heresies.

brocab:
The Pastors never corrupted it, they corrected it, from the lies and wonders your Church produce to the world.

Lol, they came and preached once saved always saved, masturbation is not a sin, forensic justification, sola scriptura and other false teachings. the more ur pastors form new shops the more they populated and propagated more heresy.

u claim the claim the catholic church moved the day of worship to sunday...u forgot that in the bible xtians met on sundays and that d churches u named also do sunday worship.

Does it bother you, not knowing the truth about Christ-you can't tell the differences between true believers and false believers?
This is true, the Church gained prosperity Preachers including the Vatican preaching unbiblical ligatures, underneath they are raving wolves, refusing the Word Of God, Preachers who claim they are Christians and are not-just like you.
Preachers just like the Vatican uses the Word of God-fully to gain prosperity-finances, in tithes and purgatory.
{Matthew 24:24} For false Christ and false prophets will raise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible even the elect.

Ubenedictus:
Lol, they came and preached once saved always saved, masturbation is not a sin, forensic justification, sola scriptura and other false teachings. the more ur pastors form new shops the more they populated and propagated more heresy.

u claim the claim the catholic church moved the day of worship to sunday...u forgot that in the bible xtians met on sundays and that d churches u named also do sunday worship.

brocab:
Does it bother you, not knowing the truth about Christ-you can't tell the differences between true believers and false believers?
This is true, the Church gained prosperity Preachers including the Vatican preaching unbiblical ligatures, underneath they are raving wolves, refusing the Word Of God, Preachers who claim they are Christians and are not-just like you.
Preachers just like the Vatican uses the Word of God-fully to gain prosperity-finances, in tithes and purgatory.
{Matthew 24:24} For false Christ and false prophets will raise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible even the elect.

Ofcourse you are confusing the vatican with your pastors. It is u protestants who teach properity and call wrong right.

{Matthew 6:21} Jesus said where your treasure is, their will be your heart also.
Allow me to study, and find the truth, where prosperity preaching actually began, and who started this lie from the beginning..
Why was the Catholic Church so powerful in the middle ages?
The Catholic Church's power in the middle ages was primarily derived from a combination of belief of money and illiteracy.
That is, most people in that age strongly believed in God, Heaven and Hell, and the Catholic Church was the centre of that belief.
The Catholic Church put forth the belief that people could only get to Heaven through the Church, Most people in the time period paid 10% of their income to the Church, giving an incredible wealth, and the Church did not pay Taxes.
On top of regular tithing, parishioners, often had to pay for ceremonies, such as baptism, and they paid penances also.
Others gave land to the Church, meaning it held about 30% of Western Europe in land.
The other part of the Church's power, came from the fact that most parishioners were illiterate which meant they had to rely on the Church interpret the biblical text.
So now we know where the teaching came from, non biblical prosperity preachers re-born straight out from among the Catholic Church.
The Pope had asked his prosperity preachers who aren't true Christians to return back to their rightful playground, Kenneth Copeland recants and returns to Catholicism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LNJ6Jb3DOc

Ubenedictus:
Ofcourse you are confusing the vatican with your pastors. It is u protestants who teach properity and call wrong right.

Back with ur conspiracy theories abi?

Always always Uben. you can't find any truth to prove otherwise?
See the problem is Uben, the Catholic Church had always written their documents down, everything they were involved in, either it was good or evil, everything was written down.
From their murdering spree's to their Child Molesting acts, as far as child sacrificing, worship to Lucifer, everything is written down.
The Catholic Church are the modern day Pharisees and scribes back in the days of Jesus, the Catholic's love bragging loud enough for the world to hear, Information is pouring out from all directions. Here's a video Pope s is calling Protestants Prosperity preachers to reunite.
So it wouldn't matter Uben what direction is right or wrong, the Catholic's love bragging-watch and learn this Video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ9Ssvs5cgY

Ubenedictus:
Back with ur conspiracy theories abi?

brocab:
Well thank you for that, this will give me a better understanding when I address to you in later times.
If you just opened up your computer and write the stolen Generation, and just let your fingers do the walking, and allow the computer to take full control, you will find your needs.
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I have just done that. I am currently reading about it, so I'll get back to you on it. As to the other things you said, I'd like to respond to those later.

In each country Presidents, Governments, leaders were organized by the Catholic Church-Hitler was also organised by the Vatican-when we look deeper into the past, we find many hidden secrets, about the Catholic Churches, Never in history had the Catholic Church describe Jesus His rightful birth colour, nor Mary's, everything the Catholic Church had made-describing Jesus and His Mother Mary shows them both to be white people.
And yet in bible knowledge "Jesus's feet were like fine bass burnt in a fire.
Everywhere around the world Blacks blown's suffered-and still until this day, everyone other then the white society suffers.
The past holds the secrets, who gave the white people the power to control the world, and still they control it with a ion.
The problem is the Catholic Church kept documents, and artifacts, trying to turn the world away from the truth of Christ-lets look at some old century paintings the Catholic's had kept of UFO's above Mary and Jesus.
We just need to read The story about the 3 children who claim they had some sort of an encounter with Mary, one child seen what the other 2 didn't see, 2 out from the 3 heard a voice-while one child seen nor heard nothing, other witnesses claimed they saw flashing coloured lights spinning around, sounds more like a UFO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMsgejlYWeQ

Emasearu:
I have just done that. I am currently reading about it, so I'll get back to you on it. As to the other things you said, I'd like to respond to those later.

brocab:
Always always Uben. you can't find any truth to prove otherwise?
See the problem is Uben, the Catholic Church had always written their documents down, everything they were involved in, either it was good or evil, everything was written down.
From their murdering spree's to their Child Molesting acts, as far as child sacrificing, worship to Lucifer, everything is written down.
The Catholic Church are the modern day Pharisees and scribes back in the days of Jesus, the Catholic's love bragging loud enough for the world to hear, Information is pouring out from all directions. Here's a video Pope s is calling Protestants Prosperity preachers to reunite.
So it wouldn't matter Uben what direction is right or wrong, the Catholic's love bragging-watch and learn this Video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ9Ssvs5cgY

Conspiracy theories? seriously u havent outgrown them?

I find you quite strange at times Uben-matter of fact most Catholic's are, Blind us you are-none of you will see the Lord coming, watchman are found all throughout the bible, you can received the first fruit information straight from the Lord Himself, seek first the Kingdom of God and all things shall be added to you.
Prophets are also knowing as watchman, especially now in these end day's.
The Conspiracy theories, as you call it, are no longer conspiracy theories-the hidden knowledge as it once were, someone inside the Vatican, one and many of the secret society Priest had spilled the beans and the news about the Catholic Church is flying in all directions, watchmen inside the Catholic Church are sending out warning signs-to help save their own.
Conspiracy theories "Seriously"
{Ezekiel 3;17-19, 33;2} The Son of man" had made thee a watchman to the house of Israel therefore hear the word of my mouth, and give them warning from Me.
{Amos 3:7} Surely the Lord does nothing, Unless He reveals His secret to His servants the Prophets.

Ubenedictus:
Conspiracy theories? seriously u havent outgrown them?

Watch this video This will give you some of the insights who destroyed our people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTjZF0WD8Q

Emasearu:
I have just done that. I am currently reading about it, so I'll get back to you on it. As to the other things you said, I'd like to respond to those later.

brocab:
Watch this video This will give you some of the insights who destroyed our people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTjZF0WD8Q

I am afraid I don't have the data for that now. I will watch it later.

brocab:
In each country Presidents, Governments, leaders were organized by the Catholic Church-Hitler was also organised by the Vatican-when we look deeper into the past, we find many hidden secrets, about the Catholic Churches, Never in history had the Catholic Church describe Jesus His rightful birth colour, nor Mary's, everything the Catholic Church had made-describing Jesus and His Mother Mary shows them both to be white people.
And yet in bible knowledge "Jesus's feet were like fine bass burnt in a fire.

No sir, I beg to differ. We actually have. Google "the Black Madonna". This is an approved representation on the Blessed Virgin. Also, pls google "Our Lady, Mother of Perpetual Help". In this pic, both Jesus and Mary don't look white. My church doesn't prohibit the use of other skin colours to represent Jesus and His mom. It's just that European artists have been representing Him in ways they could relate to.

brocab:
[color=#000099]And yet in bible knowledge "Jesus's feet were like fine bass burnt in a fire.

I don't think that book was telling us how Jesus looked while he was on earth. Look at this, pls: "{Rev. 1:14} But his head and hair were bright, like white wool, or like snow; and his eyes were like a flame of fire; {1:15} and his feet resembled shining brass, just as in a burning furnace; and his voice was like the voice of many waters. {1:16} And in his right hand, he held the seven stars; and from his mouth went out a sharp two-edged sword; and his face was like the sun, shining with all its might. {1:17} And when I had seen him, I fell at his feet, like one who is dead. ..." Now pls think about this: if John was truly describing Jesus when he hadn't yet gone back to Heaven, then with this description wouldn't everyone whom He spoke to be scared to even look at him?

brocab:
I find you quite strange at times Uben-matter of fact most Catholic's are, Blind us you are-none of you will see the Lord coming, watchman are found all throughout the bible, you can received the first fruit information straight from the Lord Himself, seek first the Kingdom of God and all things shall be added to you.
Prophets are also knowing as watchman, especially now in these end day's.
The Conspiracy theories, as you call it, are no longer conspiracy theories-the hidden knowledge as it once were, someone inside the Vatican, one and many of the secret society Priest had spilled the beans and the news about the Catholic Church is flying in all directions, watchmen inside the Catholic Church are sending out warning signs-to help save their own.
Conspiracy theories "Seriously"
[color=#990000]{Ezekiel 3;17-19, 33;2}

eyah!

Interesting>what really puzzle's me is-if its the European artist had represented Jesus and His Mother to be White, and statue's after statue's, paintings after paintings, and for centuries the Vatican of course had agreed upon, allowing the world to see Jesus in other ways, then it proves the Church didn't want people to know Jesus at all, this must prove the Vatican must believe Jesus isn't the rightful key into Heaven.
All believers believe in their beliefs-and every believer stands up for the truth-If the Vatican claims to be the Mother Church-then it's right for the Vatican to stand up-against anybody that persecutes the Church of Christ.
It is written Jesus and His Mother are darker in colour as the Bible describe's them to be, I find it strange from the past-the Vatican had written the manuscripts into Latin a language no-one could really understand, unless taught. Why not a language people could understand? {A secret society language given only to the priest.}
Men and women were persecuted to death in the name of which God? I am sure we all can the day's when Latin was the key's into the secret society, this hidden agenda was hidden from all those who didn't know the language of Jesus.
Jesus Said those who believe in Me will be persecuted, Mother Church had caused a problem allowing all sorts of religions to take over the world,
just a hick up that caused the world to come into a stand still, for centuries white people had over powered the black community-enslaving them across our nations.
Only if the people knew the truth-history would have steered another way, this now proves the Vatican isn't the strongest Church, nor was it the foundation of all churches, as they claim it to be.
{Matthew 16:18}
My wife has more faith in Jesus, then I find in all of the Vatican.

Emasearu:
No sir, I beg to differ. We actually have. Google "the Black Madonna". This is an approved representation on the Blessed Virgin. Also, pls google "Our Lady, Mother of Perpetual Help". In this pic, both Jesus and Mary don't look white. My church doesn't prohibit the use of other skin colours to represent Jesus and His mom. It's just that European artists have been representing Him in ways they could relate to.

I think this is a pretty good description of Jesus, and {Revelation 1:15} tells the story of His feet, this is a good start given somebody a description what colour Jesus is, Common sense tells the Story, Joseph was told by an angel in a dream to take the Mother and the Child Jesus into Egypt, Herod is killing all the babies 2 years below.
The Egyptians weren't white, and if Jesus was white-He and His family would stand out in the crowd. Lets read the story when Judas gave up Jesus, the Pharisees asked Judas which one is Jesus, Judas said the one I kiss is Jesus.
It's simple to work out the colour Jesus would have been, but it's only simple if one's looking in the right direction.

Emasearu:
I don't think that book was telling us how Jesus looked while he was on earth. Look at this, pls: "{Rev. 1:14} But his head and hair were bright, like white wool, or like snow; and his eyes were like a flame of fire; {1:15} and his feet resembled shining brass, just as in a burning furnace; and his voice was like the voice of many waters. {1:16} And in his right hand, he held the seven stars; and from his mouth went out a sharp two-edged sword; and his face was like the sun, shining with all its might. {1:17} And when I had seen him, I fell at his feet, like one who is dead. ..." Now pls think about this: if John was truly describing Jesus when he hadn't yet gone back to Heaven, then with this description wouldn't everyone whom He spoke to be scared to even look at him?

brocab:
Interesting>what really puzzle's me is-if its the European artist had represented Jesus and His Mother to be White, and statue's after statue's, paintings after paintings, and for centuries the Vatican of course had agreed upon, allowing the world to see Jesus in other ways, then it proves the Church didn't want people to know Jesus at all, this must prove the Vatican must believe Jesus isn't the rightful key into Heaven.

It proves His skin colour wasn't important. The important facts were that He was truly God and truly man (this didn't mean he had a Jewish soul or a black soul), and was born of a virgin. Or else, you're placing emphasis on something superficial.

brocab:
But God didn't create Mary without sin.
Mary had other Children with Joseph after Jesus was born. So she was no longer a Virgin.

Genesis 3:14-15 reads, "And the Lord God said to the serpent: 'Because you have done this, you are cursed among all living things, even the wild beasts of the earth. Upon your breast shall you travel, and the ground shall you eat, all the days of your life. {3:15} 'I will put enmities between you and the woman, between your offspring and her offspring. [He] will crush your head, and you will lie in wait for [his] heel.' " Brother, verse 15 is Protoevangelium - the good news that Christ would come to defeat Satan, is it not?

I have quoted from a Catholic bible.

This doesn't cover Mary had other Children in the flesh, so how can you say she is a Virgin..
In spirit we are all virgins..So do we all come under Mary's glory in Spirit...

Emasearu:
Genesis 3:14-15 reads, "And the Lord God said to the serpent: 'Because you have done this, you are cursed among all living things, even the wild beasts of the earth. Upon your breast shall you travel, and the ground shall you eat, all the days of your life. {3:15} 'I will put enmities between you and the woman, between your offspring and her offspring. [He] will crush your head, and you will lie in wait for [his] heel.' " Brother, verse 15 is Protoevangelium - the good news that Christ would come to defeat Satan, is it not?