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Rilwayne001: 8:06pm On Jan 07, 2015
malvisguy212:
you can make it 5million sect. Christians knows the message of the cross.

My question is who splitted them to 41000sects?

This is how to identified your brother in Christ.
Galatians 5:22-23
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy,
peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness,
faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-
control. Against such things there is no
law.
All of the above listed up here i posses them as well, do you consider me to be your brother, do you considered the Pope that entered the turkish mosque out of humility and love to pray with muslims as your brother?

Now the sects in Islam, what causes it? How do you know true Muslim?

LOL.

Trying to digress the discussion here is'nt it?
Answer my question biko
malvisguy212: 8:11pm On Jan 07, 2015
Rilwayne001:


My question is who splitted them to 41000sects?


All of the above listed up here i posses them as well, do you consider me to be your brother, do you considered the Pope that entered the turkish mosque out of humility and love to pray with muslims as your brother?



LOL.

Trying to digress the discussion here is'nt it?
Answer my question biko
you are too boastful. Your question has been answer. You are only derailing the topic, if it Islam section, you will be ban, but here you are free to wrestling with the truth. Thank you for your time, I will not reply you again.
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by Nobody: 8:46pm On Jan 07, 2015
why do you(christains) like abusive words. cant u adhere to the rules(2) of the forum
malvisguy212: 8:54pm On Jan 07, 2015
Remitee4uall:
why do you(christains) like abusive words. cant u adhere to the rules(2) of the forum
quote were the op abuse Muslim. Evidence prove Islam is a pagan religion.

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Rilwayne001: 9:02pm On Jan 07, 2015
malvisguy212:
you are too boastful.

How am i boastful?

Your question has been answer.

Hmm...when? by who?

The question again is, which diety splitted xtianity to over 40000sects?

Can you please refer me back to where this question was answered?

You are only derailing the topic,

How?

if it Islam section, you will be ban,

For what?

but here you are free to wrestling with the truth.

What truth have you and the OP said so far? is it yout claim that all those denominations on wilkipedia are not existing the alleged truth you talking about? am i missing something?

Thank you for your time,

You too smiley

I will not reply you again.

Beht why

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truthman2012(m): 9:20pm On Jan 07, 2015
Rilwayne001:
Again you evaded my question...truthman2012 evading poignant questions since BC grin grin



Okay mr man how many are they?

Attach your prove please.



Are you also saying that the site was edited like moses have said? did you click on them to if actually they exist?

I'm not covering anything....just answer my question biko

You are the one concerned with sects, why do I have to provide you a list.

You are fond of using diversionary methods when you can not defend the main issue. Smh!

When you are confronted with quranic problems, you jump to the bible like the quran cannot exist on its own. Smh!!

False religion islam is: Since u have seen that Yahweh is not allah, from where did he (allah) emerge suddenly?
Rilwayne001: 9:46pm On Jan 07, 2015
See ehn am getting tired of your rantings and ramblings undecided


truthman2012:


[s] You are the one concerned with sects, why do I have to provide you a list. You are fond of using diversionary methods when you can not defend the main issue. Smh!
When you are confronted with quranic problems, you jump to the bible like the quran cannot exist on its own. Smh!!
False religion islam is: Since u have seen that Yahweh is not allah, from where did he (allah) emerge suddenly? [/s]

So you have the audacity to ask question when actually you never address mine?

Its getting bored here.
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by Nobody: 9:55pm On Jan 07, 2015
malvisguy212:
when a book that you claimed comes from the true God contradicted the other, one must be wrong, we must ask this question, are they the same deity? Bible say Jesus died for my sin.quran say it's a lie, Allah make the Jew believe Jesus was killed, are they the same? Do you think God will wait for 600 years and later send muhammed to say ''they crucified him not'' what about thoes that died believing Jesus was killed, wh will be blame for there unbelief? Allah or satan? Friend, Allah in the quran and God in the bible are not the same.

Is your dad a born again Christian? If yes, is he well versed in the bible and quran? If yes, he will not say this to you.
did you read my post before quoting me? I NEVER CLAIMED THAT THE BIBLE/QUARAN CAME FROM GOD/ALLAH. Those books were written by different men with different ideas,but in all they were trying to tell us about one God and the way to eternal life,like I said earlier these books where written by different men so most of the contents are bounds to contradict each other. And that one was written centuries before the other.

That's all I have to say,as for the latter part of your write up they're just balderdash....
johnydon22(m): 12:18am On Jan 08, 2015
Nobleval:
did you read my post before quoting me? I NEVER CLAIMED THAT THE BIBLE/QUARAN CAME FROM GOD/ALLAH. Those books were written by different men with different ideas,but in all they were trying to tell us about one God and the way to eternal life,like I said earlier these books where written by different men so most of the contents are bounds to contradict each other. And that one was written centuries before the other.

That's all I have to say,as for the latter part of your write up they're just balderdash....
My bro just like i told u before you say the truth... you think for urself and call a spade a spade.. carry on with ur free thinker mind bros

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truthman2012(m): 9:12am On Jan 08, 2015
sufido123:
Religion is the opium of the masses. The masses are the poor ones I might add. It is only an unreasonable God that would allow the insane and despicable killings in today. Those who kill for God are not human beings and should be spat on.

As for me, I chose not to base my salvation on prophesies based on imperfect knowledge. The medieval goat herders that wrote the so-called "holly" books were menaces and their followers today are no better.

Religion has become a menace to this world and I can't wait to see the death of of all religions. It is already beginning to happen albeit it slowly. My condolences to . Hopefully, they will catch these goons that did the terrorist act today,

Are you ready to convert to islam? If not, be ready for your head chopped off by muslims if caught. They don't care whether or not you believe in religion.
Ifeann(f): 9:58am On Jan 08, 2015
Nobleval:
I'd like to remind you that Allah is God,just like Jehovah,Yahweh,Oluwa,Chukwu, e.t.c


Your thread is not worth commenting on,because that's a load of jargons you wrote up there.

U muslims and your assumptions. I challenge you to show me a age in your Quran where Mohammed says his sender is YHWH. Mohammed didn't even know the true name of God.
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by Nobody: 10:03am On Jan 08, 2015
Ifeann:


U muslims and your assumptions. I challenge you to show me a age in your Quran where Mohammed says his sender is YHWH. Mohammed didn't even know the true name of God.

i'm not a muslim dude undecided
Ifeann(f): 10:09am On Jan 08, 2015
Nobleval:
i'm not a muslim dude undecided

then why would u think to call allah the name of the most high God. That is blasphemy my friend.
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by Nobody: 10:16am On Jan 08, 2015
Ifeann:


then why would u think to call allah the name of the most high God. That is blasphemy my friend.
I DON'T WANNA BE DRAWN INTO BASELESS ARGUEMENTS WITH YOU BRO,IT'S ISN'T WORTH THE TIME. So take a pill and chill out.
macof(m): 11:04am On Jan 08, 2015
As a pagan, I attack all religions and dogmatism even if based on Ifa...Ifa preaches against dogmatism and personalising the Spirit of the universe(which religions erroneously call God)
When I have the chance, I show the lies and fraud of both religions, which are a big menace to the world

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macof(m): 11:05am On Jan 08, 2015
malvisguy212:
quote were the op abuse Muslim. Evidence prove Islam is a pagan religion.

Every religion has it's origins in Paganism

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truthman2012(m): 11:11am On Jan 08, 2015
macof:


Every religion has it's origins in Paganism

How?
malvisguy212: 11:13am On Jan 08, 2015
macof:


Every religion has it's origins in Paganism
where in the bible does it say Christianity has a pagan origin? Evidence from the quran and hadith prove Islam is a pagan religion.
malvisguy212: 11:20am On Jan 08, 2015
macof:
As a pagan, I attack all religions and dogmatism even if based on Ifa...Ifa preaches against dogmatism and personalising the Spirit of the universe(which religions erroneously call God)
When I have the chance, I show the lies and fraud of both religions, which are a big menace to the world

most pagan are to soft in attacking pagan, infacte rossikk (a pagan) has never question Islamic belief, he only attack Christian, I ask him why? He gave a lame excuse, he say '' he was born as a Christian, so he no nothing about Islam".
but he can search the internet for wrong information about Christian but fail to do the same in Islam.

I believe the same deity that is control of pagan is the same with Islam.

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Rilwayne001: 11:48am On Jan 08, 2015
You've summarized all jargons the OP wrote with your comment below.

malvisguy212:

I believe the same deity that is control of pagan is the same with Islam.

Now which diety is responsible for the splitting of xtianity to thousand sects?
macof(m): 11:50am On Jan 08, 2015
truthman2012:


Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah....(Quran 9:29)

Those who have been given the Scripture are the Jews and Christians, abi? Now Allah says the Jews and Christians who believed in Yahweh
did not believe in Allah. I think you can see they are not the same.

Allah further told Muhammad to say: O disbelievers (Kafri,):

I worship not that which ye worship

Nor worship ye that which I worship

Unto you your religion and to me my religion (Quran 109:1, 3, 6).

What Muhammad worship is not the Yahweh of the Jews and Christians.

True Islam's Allah isn't Christians Jehovah

But then I'll like to tell u that Christian Jehovah is different from Judaic Yahweh
Jehovah has travelled abroad and become Europeanized and Yahweh has become his alter ego cheesy
macof(m): 11:54am On Jan 08, 2015
Nobleval:
I THINK YOU ARE VERY WRONG,I was raised up in a christian home,but my Dad has made me to understand that Allah is same as our God. I have muslim friends and they worship the same God we worship,although they don't give Jesus the respect christians give him. He is just another great prophet named Isah according to them,but the greatest prophet ever to walk this earth is Muhammed and they believe that he and Jesus were all sent by Allah (GOD)

So you see,it could be that you are cursing the name of God in Arabic sad,it's just like saying that Ol*wa or Ch*neke is a murderer or whatever just because you can't understand yoruba and Igbo language respectively.

My friend, Every God is different from the other it's not about language but mode of approach to this God, it's personality, it's rules etc. all this point to Allah being different from Jehovah...even Jehovah is not Yahweh

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macof(m): 11:56am On Jan 08, 2015
truthman2012:


Muslims like to deceive themselves.

If allah is the same as Yahweh, why was Muhammad to fight Yahweh's worshipers.

You do realize, Mohammed fought the pagan worshipers of Allah
He sought to destroy paganism

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macof(m): 12:05pm On Jan 08, 2015
malvisguy212:
most pagan are to soft in attacking pagan, infacte rossikk (a pagan) has never question Islamic belief, he only attack Christian, I ask him why? He gave a lame excuse, he say '' he was born as a Christian, so he no nothing about Islam".
but he can search the internet for wrong information about Christian but fail to do the same in Islam.

I believe the same deity that is control of pagan is the same with Islam.

Lol see mumu...of course most reverts are ex-Christians nd as such they tend to attack christianity more because they have the knowledge of it...you think we are like u who dives into what he knows nothing about?

Like u attack pagans when u know absolutely nothing about paganism

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Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by Nobody: 12:07pm On Jan 08, 2015
macof:


My friend, Every God is different from the other it's not about language but mode of approach to this God, it's personality, it's rules etc. all this point to Allah being different from Jehovah...even Jehovah is not Yahweh
@bolded,really? Educate me please...
truthman2012(m): 12:11pm On Jan 08, 2015
macof:


Lol see mumu...of course most reverts are ex-Christians nd as such they tend to attack christianity more because they have the knowledge of it...you think we are like u who dives into what he knows nothing about?

Like u attack pagans when u know absolutely nothing about paganism

Like all atheists, you are notorious for abuses and insults. Is there no moral in what you believe? Address the issue and not the person.
malvisguy212: 12:31pm On Jan 08, 2015
Rilwayne001:
You've summarized all jargons the OP wrote with your comment below.



Now which diety is responsible for the splitting of xtianity to thousand sects?
1 Timothy4:1
The Spirit clearly says that in later times
some will abandon the faith and follow
deceiving spirits and things taught by
demons.


2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when people will
not put up with sound doctrine. Instead,
to suit their own desires, they will gather
around them a great number of teachers
to say what their itching ears want to
hear.

Why dint you ask for proof of pagan worship in Islam? You know it true, dint you?
malvisguy212: 12:33pm On Jan 08, 2015
macof:


Lol see mumu...of course most reverts are ex-Christians nd as such they tend to attack christianity more because they have the knowledge of it...you think we are like u who dives into what he knows nothing about?

Like u attack pagans when u know absolutely nothing about paganism
so the internet ban you from knowing the truth about Islam,but you are free to do a research about Christianity?
macof(m): 12:34pm On Jan 08, 2015
truthman2012:


Like all atheists, you are notorious for abuses and insults. Is there no moral in what you believe? Address the issue and not the person.

sorry I don't do emotional blackmail it's u Christian lots that find pleasure in that.. I tell u wat I observe
And when I see a mumu I tell u straight up...it's called honesty
macof(m): 12:37pm On Jan 08, 2015
malvisguy212:
so the internet ban you from knowing the truth about Islam,but you are free to do a research about Christianity?

First of, most of the reverts did research before realizing the fraud of christianity
everything I know about Christianity was from my days as a Christian not after

Second, most reverts tend to stick it to the man who kept them in delusions for years...in this case the man is christianity

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Rilwayne001: 12:40pm On Jan 08, 2015
malvisguy212:
1 Timothy4:1
The Spirit clearly says that in later times
some will abandon the faith and follow
deceiving spirits and things taught by
demons. 2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when people will
not put up with sound doctrine. Instead,
to suit their own desires, they will gather
around them a great number of teachers
to say what their itching ears want to
hear.


What makes you think your own is the best and the rest are false? which diety splitted them in the first place? what makes you think other are not possesed by holy spirit?

Why dint you ask for proof of pagan worship in Islam? You know it true, dint you?

I dont need to, I have answered you on many occasions on this, i can't just waste my time replying you all over again.
macof(m): 12:50pm On Jan 08, 2015
truthman2012:


How?

have u ever done research on ur religion?
U like to dig into Islam but have u done same for ur religion?

why not read about Kenite and Yahweh in mediaeval canaanland

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