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2pence(m): 11:02am On Jun 11, 2013
Nuzo':


You are one of the few guys I respect here...so seeing what you wrote came as a shocker.

The OP has explained what happened to the car. They were on a high speed chase after being alerted of car snatching which may be for the purpose of of robbery, kidnap or assasination.
On rounding the criminals up, the armed robbers opened fire on the UNINSURED policemen. And in a bid to dodge the assault, they fell into a ditch.

What more do you guys want from these helpless policemen who wouldve had their families thrown out of police barracks with no compensation if they (police) were killed in the process?

N2.5 million is nothing compared to the safety of those gallant policemen.

Most times I would want to comment but when I see that someone has already spoken from my line of reasoning then it just makes me feel special, Real Men reason like Men ! The relevance of that wrecked car has been justified ! Thank God no police man died or sustained any serious injury.

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meerkat(m): 11:05am On Jun 11, 2013
Okija juju:

The story shock me sha...

The Nigerian Police I know, would have opened fire on that SUV immediately it started running from them. And to think that the criminals opened fire on the Nigerian Police and came out of that alive is shocking.

Bros make e no shock you okay? This is Coal City, the safest city in the country (lowest crime rate), suffice it to say that we have the most effective police in the country. You need to see how these cars prowl all the nooks and crannies of the city, you sef go dey discouraged to commit crime, no wonder the robbers where cornered in a short while.

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Ochek: 11:06am On Jun 11, 2013
Okija juju:

The story shock me sha...

The Nigerian Police I know, would have opened fire on that SUV immediately it started running from them. And to think that the criminals opened fire on the Nigerian Police and came out of that alive is shocking.

Open fire on the SUV as it was taking off abi? Later you would be the first to comment on how unprofessional they acted.

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Denn(m): 11:08am On Jun 11, 2013
Policewoman: I agree with you and that is why i opted for the most basic option. Moreover, if there is a sort of agreement between our F.G and Rover to mass produce these cars, the costs will even be further reduced. The Indian police have been doing this with General Motors U.S, the makers of the Mahindra Legend Jeep.

Your ideas are novel but does that imply these rugged vehicles would not suffer the same or similar damage in a gun battle?

What is the cost benefit implication for buying a N10m SUV or a N2.5m sedan. Those rovers are more expensive and will crush if they fall into a ditch.

What about the daily cost of maintenance? The rover will consume twice the quantity of fuel, oil etc than the kia...
On a large scale that implies double costs. Can we afford it?

Most developed countries use sedans for urban patrols and only SUVS for border runs
...we can adopt the same strategy..

Those pick ups cost twice and were used for arresting okadas....you can't put an okadas in those kia rios....

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Ochek: 11:15am On Jun 11, 2013
Policewoman: I will recommend the basic option landrover defender for use of the Police in Nigeria, instead of these toy cars.

I'm pretty sure you don't know how much the kinda vehicle you re suggesting would cost.
Denn(m): 11:17am On Jun 11, 2013
Okija juju:


Bros.. You sef read the OPs post. He simply showed a pic of a damaged Police vehicle. He didn't state what led to it. I went with the best guess of typical police carelessness. And all I said was that it was a normal sight.

You have a point here...we all have a mindset as regards their inefficiencies...

However, let's give them a room to improve and let's commend them when necessary.
Ochek: 11:18am On Jun 11, 2013
Rooneyboy:

What r u saying

So as long as it was a Nigerian police that was in that vehicle, I don't give a damn if any life was lost.

Two things are involved here.
Either you re a criminal (yet to be caught)
Or
Planning to one

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Ochek: 11:19am On Jun 11, 2013
Rooneyboy:

What r u saying

So as long as it was a Nigerian police that was in that vehicle, I don't give a damn if any life was lost.

Two things are involved here.
Either you re a criminal (yet to be caught)
Or
Planning to be one.

Whichever it is, my advice to you is to change and luv the police force. Yes! We got bad eggs in them too but good ones sure exist.
Denn(m): 11:22am On Jun 11, 2013
Okija juju:


I recommended that as well on a previous thread on these kias..

Land Rover Defenders and Hilux SUVs.. All fitted with extended metal bumpers and fenders. And before being given to the Police, they should be trained in evasive driving, defensive driving and offensive driving..

Police cars with extended metal bumpers imply only one thing....more aggressive behaviors on the roads...they will bump cars unnecessary same way they use current pick ups as ferries for arrested okadas.... give them sedans, train them as you suggested and give each unit a bonus pay for undamaged vehicles at the end of the year

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Okijajuju: 11:38am On Jun 11, 2013
Policewoman: I agree with you and that is why i opted for the most basic option. Moreover, if there is a sort of agreement between our F.G and Rover to mass produce these cars, the costs will even be further reduced. The Indian police have been doing this with General Motors U.S, the makers of the Mahindra Legend Jeep.


I too love you this Policewoman.. Don't make me have to commit an offence that would force you to arrest me o! angry

A supply and maintenance agreement can be reached with Range Rover for the supply of these cars.. We are not asking for vehicles with spinning rims and T.Vs in the headrest.

Land rovers are not bulletproof and neither are the KIAs nor any other Police vehicles around the world. However, there is no arguing the fact that the Land Rovers are more rugged, versatile, better value for money, don't depreciate as fast, stronger than the KIA and to top it up is an all terrain vehicle.

There is no guarantee that the Land Rover wouldn't crash, but as I have been advocating, if these drivers had the right professional training in security driving courses, the risk of damage to these cars would be limited.

The fact that Enugu State Government isn't responsible for buying cars for the Police is mute. Well if he isn't responsible, then he shouldn't have.

HotPotato(m): 11:38am On Jun 11, 2013
I was in Enugu on Saturday for a wedding when I saw those new cars. I had always known that the cars will still go the way of every other police vehicle, only that I didn't know it'd be this soon.
INFO70: 11:40am On Jun 11, 2013
Who gave precious things to dogs?
Okijajuju: 11:44am On Jun 11, 2013
Ochek:

Open fire on the SUV as it was taking off abi? Later you would be the first to comment on how unprofessional they acted.


Na wah o!

Did I say opening fire on the SUV is the right thing to do? undecided Nna men! I said I was shocked! This is not the standard Nigerian police behaviour. The Nogerian Police I know would have started shooting immediately their phone rang. The Nigerian Police I know would have opened fire the moment they saw aggressive movement inside the car after surrounding it. And you tell me that they surrounded a vehicle, it's occupants opened fire from within the vehicle and the Nigerian Police didn't return fire and if they did didn't kill them.. Infact, the suspects were not even injured but are still alive and in jail.. hmmmmmmmmm.... Something is wrong with that story.
edoyad(m): 11:47am On Jun 11, 2013
INFO70: Who gave precious things to dogs?
lecturerdabo:

as usual with NPF happened!

You both are big dummies. A car was destroyed in a bid to prevent crime and you're here talking trash. I pray the rickety vehicles you will one day drive in the distant future will get stolen. Come back and tell us who you will report it to.
And from the reactions from some of you,how would it be possible to effectively combat crime without a few crashes here and there. No wonder the police don't bother responding to distress calls anymore, I can just imagine a police officer reading some of the comments here.
Re: New Enugu Police-Car Got Smashed by Nobody: 12:00pm On Jun 11, 2013
soma042:






dude u guys are getting off the hook. the op said the armed men open fire on the police car when they have already been rounded up and the car ran inside a ditch , and you guys are rambling alcohol, iron car,armored tank and fragile jeep na waaaaa.
i witnessed the event my self you need to see the way this police handled the situation, it was like watching the old bond movie. the police blocked the whole street connecting other officers on their routing duty post with their mobile set and they finally rounded them up before the armed men started shooting sporadically.

thumb up police
Their hatred for Nigeria their own country no let dem see road read wella before commenting.
Policewoman(f): 12:09pm On Jun 11, 2013
Denn:

Your ideas are novel but does that imply these rugged vehicles would not suffer the same or similar damage in a gun battle?

What is the cost benefit implication for buying a N10m SUV or a N2.5m sedan. Those rovers are more expensive and will crush if they fall into a ditch.

What about the daily cost of maintenance? The rover will consume twice the quantity of fuel, oil etc than the kia...
On a large scale that implies double costs. Can we afford it?

Most developed countries use sedans for urban patrols and only SUVS for border runs
...we can adopt the same strategy..

Those pick ups cost twice and were used for arresting okadas....you can't put an okadas in those kia rios....
Your cost benefit ratio holds little water because in Nigeria currently, our roads are not as good as they have it in developed countries, where Sedans can be used at will by the police. 80% of Nigerian roads are offroad and therefore the sedans will suffer more wear and tear than the SUVs, thus damaging in a shorter period of time. I myself own a landrover SUV and i know what i'm talking about its durability. Fashi the maintainance cost, the Nigerian Police force can have in house police corps engineers stationed in each district to repair these cars when they can't be done by ordinary mechanics.

It's all about planning.
joeluv: 12:16pm On Jun 11, 2013
Nawa ooo, Nigerians self...please tell me where in the world police cars dont get smashed in the line of duty? Am sure the Enugu state Governemnt are very much aware of the risks associated with police cars...... If dey no chase thief na problem..now they chased Nigerians are still complaining..pls the enugu state residents are not complaianing they are just happy that the police are doing thier job. KUDUS Enugu state Police command.
soma042(m): 12:20pm On Jun 11, 2013
joeluv:
Nawa ooo, Nigerians self...please tell me where in the world police cars dont get smashed in the line of duty? Am sure the Enugu state Governemnt are very much aware of the risks associated with police cars...... If dey no chase thief na problem..now they chased Nigerians are still complaining..pls the enugu state residents are not complaianing they are just happy that the police are doing thier job. KUDUS Enugu state Police command.

thank you very much.
no i know you cant please nigerians
Temptee101(m): 12:33pm On Jun 11, 2013
soma042:






dude u guys are getting off the hook. the op said the armed men open fire on the police car when they have already been rounded up and the car ran inside a ditch , and you guys are rambling alcohol, iron car,armored tank and fragile jeep na waaaaa.
i witnessed the event my self you need to see the way this police handled the situation, it was like watching the old bond movie. the police blocked the whole street connecting other officers on their routing duty post with their mobile set and they finally rounded them up before the armed men started shooting sporadically.

thumb up police
Bros abeg wz d title of d movie?
Temptee101(m): 12:37pm On Jun 11, 2013
feminancy:

they really need encouragement not criticism like you see many guys here yelling at them at any little mistake .
i met some of them on duty, i will tell you they are not happy with what people are gossiping, even on the media here that they will wreck the car withing 1 month or so. they vowed that the will bit mercilessly from anyone be it car driver or car owner who by mistake or so come close to hit the car.
Guy, if you no be police then your uncle na police.
Arcard(m): 12:49pm On Jun 11, 2013
Afrilogistics:

Don't be daft !.Police cars crash all over the world in the course of chasing criminals. The Enugu policemen caught the armed robbers. We should give kudos to them and to the Governor for making the cars available. Enugu will be safer for it.

I would be the first to condemn them if he crashed the car comming out of a pepper soup t along Obiagu road.
no go da area its under construction
darkashes(m): 1:00pm On Jun 11, 2013
they dont actually knw the value of all this cars.. thieves like them. wetin dem go talk say cos this stupid accident, drinking while driving or doing a race game..serz the NPF is a disgrace and needs to be scraped
Denn(m): 1:30pm On Jun 11, 2013
Policewoman: Your cost benefit ratio holds little water because in Nigeria currently, our roads are not as good as they have it in developed countries, where Sedans can be used at will by the police. 80% of Nigerian roads are offroad and therefore the sedans will suffer more wear and tear than the SUVs, thus damaging in a shorter period of time. I myself own a landrover SUV and i know what i'm talking about its durability. Fashi the maintainance cost, the Nigerian Police force can have in house police corps engineers stationed in each district to repair these cars when they can't be done by ordinary mechanics.

It's all about planning.

Read your post! You claim cost benefit analysis is not necessary in your opening statement yet you end it with "it's all about planning" do you really know what planning is all about?

You then quote that 80% of Nigerian roads are "off-road"....can you post the source or they are mere conjectures?

You own a landrover, does that imply that we should all buy your brand? What about Jeep, GMC, BMW, Mercedes etc....are they not also durable? what about HUMMER?

Do you know how much it costs to 'officially' repair a broken landrover engine? My emphasis on officially. Can you share with us the cost for shock absorbers, new doors, lights etc and how a simple police station will be able to accommodate the maintenance cost in their budget?

There is a difference between day-dreaming and planning and dear, your ideas ain't practical in Nigeria for now....maybe on African Magic
supaeagles(m): 2:47pm On Jun 11, 2013
Afam4eva: It looks like an accident though. This is an isolated case as i don't know how often police cars are accidented. Though, the governor should have looked at using a stronger car.
Even if they were driving Bentleys the case would have been the same and an accident will always damage the car. I agree though, it looks like an isolated incident and ultimately what should be the gauge of the success of this program would be reduced crime, increased public safety etc in Enugu.
Okijajuju: 3:07pm On Jun 11, 2013
Denn:

Read your post! You claim cost benefit analysis is not necessary in your opening statement yet you end it with "it's all about planning" do you really know what planning is all about?

You then quote that 80% of Nigerian roads are "off-road"....can you post the source or they are mere conjectures?

You own a landrover, does that imply that we should all buy your brand? What about Jeep, GMC, BMW, Mercedes etc....are they not also durable? what about HUMMER?

Do you know how much it costs to 'officially' repair a broken landrover engine? My emphasis on officially. Can you share with us the cost for shock absorbers, new doors, lights etc and how a simple police station will be able to accommodate the maintenance cost in their budget?

There is a difference between day-dreaming and planning and dear, your ideas ain't practical in Nigeria for now....maybe on African Magic


Huh?

What's this dude going on about? Nigeria can't afford to purchase Land Rovers as our official Police vehicles?! I case you have deleted these from your memory card, let me remind you; COJA: Nigeria purchased over 300 BMW 3 Series for that event... CHOGM: More BMW 5 series this time.. ALGON alone Purchased over 1000 Toyota Prados for the Police, and the list goes on. So trust me when I say we can purchase those Land Rovers if we choose to.

Why is Nigeria purchasing a more durable, efficient and practical vehicle such as a Land Rover (which we have used in the past to great success) a day dream?
Originalsly: 3:17pm On Jun 11, 2013
soma042:






dude u guys are getting off the hook. the op said the armed men open fire on the police car when they have already been rounded up and the car ran inside a ditch , and you guys are rambling alcohol, iron car,armored tank and fragile jeep na waaaaa.
i witnessed the event my self you need to see the way this police handled the situation, it was like watching the old bond movie. the police blocked the whole street connecting other officers on their routing duty post with their mobile set and they finally rounded them up before the armed men started shooting sporadically.

thumb up police
Bro...take it easy! ...don't you know some people just look at the pics then post comments?
Re: New Enugu Police-Car Got Smashed by Nobody: 3:32pm On Jun 11, 2013
Maxymilliano: Looks like something that fell into a ditch
No, it fell into the sky angry
hardbody: 4:33pm On Jun 11, 2013
Policewoman: Your cost benefit ratio holds little water because in Nigeria currently, our roads are not as good as they have it in developed countries, where Sedans can be used at will by the police. 80% of Nigerian roads are offroad and therefore the sedans will suffer more wear and tear than the SUVs, thus damaging in a shorter period of time. I myself own a landrover SUV and i know what i'm talking about its durability. Fashi the maintainance cost, the Nigerian Police force can have in house police corps engineers stationed in each district to repair these cars when they can't be done by ordinary mechanics.

It's all about planning.

And you guys say this woman is a policewoman? I have my doubts. Police in Nigeria cannot reason logically, i never met one that could string together a correct English sentence.

Abi are you Ngozi Braide?
Praisemuyi(m): 4:38pm On Jun 11, 2013
May the good Lord protect our security men oo
Denn(m): 6:14pm On Jun 11, 2013
Okija juju:


Huh?

What's this dude going on about? Nigeria can't afford to purchase Land Rovers as our official Police vehicles?! I case you have deleted these from your memory card, let me remind you; COJA: Nigeria purchased over 300 BMW 3 Series for that event... CHOGM: More BMW 5 series this time.. ALGON alone Purchased over 1000 Toyota Prados for the Police, and the list goes on. So trust me when I say we can purchase those Land Rovers if we choose to.

Why is Nigeria purchasing a more durable, efficient and practical vehicle such as a Land Rover (which we have used in the past to great success) a day dream?

Do you think 2,000 vehicles is enough to police over 160m people?

The united states law enforcement agencies buy between 65,000 to 70,000 vehicles EVERY year.... http://www.caradvice.com.au/134567/us-police-stock-up-on-ford-crown-victoria-shun-chevrolet-caprice/


Not some luxury edition landrovers but mostly the old ford and Chevy caprice...basic but functional vehicles

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soma042(m): 7:27pm On Jun 11, 2013
Originalsly: Bro...take it easy! ...don't you know some people just look at the pics then post comments?


































i just figured it out
owobokiri(m): 7:28pm On Jun 11, 2013
When will Peter Obi do something worth talking about?

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