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Theflint1:

Odumeje probably has hearing problems. He will ask Ehn ehn like 7 times

Na when he injects Ibo language inside dey even funny though I dont understand what he is saying

Indaboski na blessing to this country

Theflint1:
Well the reason I asked was because the way you described Lagos in the 80s and 90s was exactly how I used to hear Lagos described while Tinubu was governor, so I thought you were making reference to the late 90s to early 2000s dem.

That was the state Tinubu met Lagos and see how it has gradually morphed into possibly the darling of all Nigerians

It took excellent vision and time to get that transformation

raumdeuter:


That was the state Tinubu met Lagos and see how it has gradually morphed into possibly the darling of all Nigerians

It took excellent vision and time to get that transformation

He should sha leave "foundation-laying" and do some building....Nigerian's are pleading.

raumdeuter:


That was the state Tinubu met Lagos and see how it has gradually morphed into possibly the darling of all Nigerians

It took excellent vision and time to get that transformation

So, in other words, he they build foundation for Nigeria, yeah?

The fact that some states that used to be economically viable stopped being viable can be linked to the death of manufacturing in the country as a whole. From the 80's to the late 90's a lot of manufacturing companies scattered all over the country suffered slow and painful death .

Importation became the order of the day. Some companies that have plants in states like Plateau, Jos, Kano, Kaduna, etc. folded up and some of the products they manufactured, traders started sorting for close substitutes through importation. Some of the taxes these companies would've paid to the respective host state government dried up and of course importing those items through the Apapa and Tin Can Island port in Lagos means more revenue for Lagos.

It can be argued that the death of the manufacturing sector favored Lagos as a state directly and indirectly. Directly in the sense that most imported items get to through Lagos and revenue accrued to the state as a result of that.(E no get the kind money wey u no go pay before ur consignment leave Lagos; from council tax to state government tax, etc).

Lagos benefited indirectly from the death of manufacturing sector because most of the bright minds who would've worked in the defunct manufacturing companies in different states end up finding their way down to Lagos where they have to put their bright minds to work to provide a solution to a problem which they can sell to fetch them money.

You don't need to argue, just go to different states and see several abandoned textile companies, motor assembly plants, foam making industries, glass making companies, paper manufacturing industries , etc. There was Leyland Nigeria Ltd Oyo, Osogbo Steel Rolling Mill,Jos Steel Rolling Mill, Sokoto Cement Company, Nigeria-Romania Wood Industries Ltd Ondo, Batagarawa Steel Rolling Mill Kaduna, Bendel Cement, etc. These were companies that were all working back in the days and contributing positively to the economy of the respective states where they were situated. It was their death that forced most expatriates living in those states back to their countries and Nigerians working there to find their way down to Lagos to come and hustle in the surviving companies feeding off the oil focused economy that emerged.

Don't take my word for it, ask people who know. Ask elderly people who witnessed the country move from production based economy to oil dependent economy that orders most of the basic needs of its people.

akwesenana:
So, in other words, he they build foundation for Nigeria, yeah?

Foundation with one trowel of gravel, one bag of cement and two tons of sand..

Theflint1:
He should sha leave "foundation-laying" and do some building....Nigerian's are pleading.

The decay of several decades needs a solid foundation before we can move forward sustainably. Trying to build when oil and FX subsidy exists is like trying to fill water in a basket

BlueRayDick:
The fact that some states that used to be economically viable stopped being viable can be linked to the death of manufacturing in the country as a whole. From the 80's to the late 90's a lot of manufacturing companies scattered all over the country suffered slow and painful death .

Importation became the order of the day. Some companies that have plants in states like Plateau, Jos, Kano, Kaduna, etc. folded up and some of the products they manufactured, traders started sorting for close substitutes through importation. Some of the taxes these companies would've paid to the respective host state government dried up and of course importing those items through the Apapa and Tin Can Island port in Lagos means more revenue for Lagos.

It can be argued that the death of the manufacturing sector favored Lagos as a state directly and indirectly. Directly in the sense that most imported items get to through Lagos and revenue accrued to the state as a result of that.(E no get the kind money wey u no go pay before ur consignment leave Lagos; from council tax to state government tax, etc).

Lagos benefited indirectly from the death of manufacturing sector because most of the bright minds who would've worked in the defunct manufacturing companies in different states end up finding their way down to Lagos where they have to put their bright minds to work to provide a solution to a problem which they can sell to fetch them money.

You don't need to argue, just go to different states and see several abandoned textile companies, motor assembly plants, foam making industries, glass making companies, paper manufacturing industries , etc. There was Leyland Nigeria Ltd Oyo, Osogbo Steel Rolling Mill,Jos Steel Rolling Mill, Sokoto Cement Company, Nigeria-Romania Wood Industries Ltd Ondo, Batagarawa Steel Rolling Mill Kaduna, Bendel Cement, etc. These were companies that were all working back in the days and contributing positively to the economy of the respective states where they were situated. It was their death that forced most expatriates living in those states back to their countries and Nigerians working there to find their way down to Lagos to come and hustle in the surviving companies feeding off the oil focused economy that emerged.

Don't take my word for it, ask people who know. Ask elderly people who witnessed the country move from production based economy to oil dependent economy that orders most of the basic needs of its people.

All these manufacturing companies at their peak will still have to import machineries, sometimes import some raw materials and sometimes export the finished products mostly through Lagos Port or other Ports. Most of the port revenues actually goes to the FG and this constitute a part of the FG non oil revenue

You are right, for whatever reason, the manufacturing industries that sustained the hinterland collapsed. Possibly the military govt policies. Even the manufacturing companies in Lagos were not spared from Ilupeju to Agbara to Oba Akran

So many things that attracted people to the interior states collapsed and the only hope became Lagos and Oil States. The govt policies that for political reasons encouraged militants and kidnapping in the SS now ensured that migrating or building a hub in the SS will have to think twice


Ideally when Nigeria moved from manufacturing to basically oil, the Warri, Onne, PH should be benefitting but no. Na mostly AkwaIbom and Eket benefit because they didnt embrace militancy to the level of other oil cities

In fulfillment of a promise to give free medical services to a Sokoto businessman accidentally shot during an operation, the Department of State Services (DSS) has invited the victim to its hospital in Abuja.

In mid-March, the DSS Director-General, Mr. Tosin Ajayi, approved the payment of ₦10 million damages awarded by a court to the businessman six years earlier. To compensate for time lost, the DG handed the businessman an additional ₦10 million, bringing the total sum to ₦20 million.

At the time, Mr. Ajayi directed the DSS hospital to officially integrate the businessman into the Services’ medical care system, which would enable him to enjoy free medical services anytime he desired.

A security source said the businessman arrived in the hospital “a few days ago, and has been undergoing free medical tests and treatment from the hospital’s best doctors.”

He said, “True to the DG’s directive, the man has been in the VIP ward which, of course, is fully air-conditioned. They have been running series of checks and giving him round-the-clock medical attention, in order to make him regain full control of his limbs. I even understand the DG asked that he be fed for free.”

In 2016, during a pre-dawn operation to arrest a suspected gunrunner in Jos, Plateau State, DSS operatives mistakenly shot and injured the businessman who incidentally bears the same name as the suspected gunrunner. The gunrunner was eventually arrested.

Two years after the shooting, in 2018, the businessman, through his lawyer, Idris Akibu, approached a Federal High Court in Bauchi.

Delivering judgement on the matter with suit number FHC/J/CS/18/2018, the court, presided over by Justice Muhammed Shittu Abubakar, ordered the DSS to pay ₦10 million in damages to the injured businessman.

https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/8432850/dss-gifts-bizman-20m-free

Kudos to the current DSS DG for implementing the court judgement against DSS on this matter , but I have an issue with the way our pressmen/journalist write these days.

A man was shot by officers of the state security services , he was abandoned for 2 years before he took the matter to court and won after which damages was awarded to him. The agency didn't pay him until 6 years after and then Guardian is writing this particular news piece as if the man just won a gift which he is privileged to get.

Omo! Only God knows the kind of mental and emotional stress the man and his family must have gone through up till this moment. I understand the man gets extra N10m aside from the N10m ordered by the court , but the way Guardian toned this news and the headline makes it look like he is a lucky man to get the money.

One guy dey tell me the story of his family, His da and mom were Graduates working in the US in the 70s then the state creation in 1976 happened. Their state govt searched abroad for all graduates from their states and offered them instant employment in Nigeria and very good offers

The dad relocated and ed a manufacturing company, the mom relocated ed the state civil service, So did many of their state people who were abroad in the 70s. Some even moved to Nigeria with their Oyinbo wives

Now the parents regret ever making that move. All the assets he built in the state are almost worthless. Their Nigerian pension completely worthless. Plus the family has been threatened with kidnap multiple times. They got letters from kidnappers telling them to pay ransom to avoid being kidnapped.
The only thing that helped them was they had their first child in the US who later filed for the parents to become US citizens. And the work they did in the US in the 70s qualified them for some Social security benefits in the US

The mom came back to Naija in the late 70s with the pregnancy of one the child, The child was born in Naija and till now hasn't been fortunate to get a US visa again

raumdeuter:


All these manufacturing companies at their peak will still have to import machineries, sometimes import some raw materials and sometimes export the finished products mostly through Lagos Port or other Ports. Most of the port revenues actually goes to the FG and this constitute a part of the FG non oil revenue

You are right, for whatever reason, the manufacturing industries that sustained the hinterland collapsed. Possibly the military govt policies. Even the manufacturing companies in Lagos were not spared from Ilupeju to Agbara to Oba Akran

So many things that attracted people to the interior states collapsed and the only hope became Lagos and Oil States. The govt policies that for political reasons encouraged militants and kidnapping in the SS now ensured that migrating or building a hub in the SS will have to think twice


Ideally when Nigeria moved from manufacturing to basically oil, the Warri, Onne, PH should be benefitting but no. Na mostly AkwaIbom and Eket benefit because they didn't embrace militancy to the level of other oil cities

The kidnapping and militancy in those South South states didn't happen in isolation, It was actually in response to the long age issue of oil spillage and pollution in those areas . The militancy didn't even start during democratic government, it started in the last days of military government. Those boys only got more powerful when the soldiers went back to barracks and they arm twisted the new set of politicians.

In fact, the new set of politicians have some of those boys working for them so it became an issue . Dem Akwa Ibom-Cross people didn't suffer as much oil spillage and well blowout like those in the Rivers and Delta faced, that's why they had no reason to really embrace militancy.

You see Nigeria ehn, a whole lot of things don happen for this country that had no input of politicians but it is normal for politicians to claim the good things and dissociate themselves from the bad things.

raumdeuter:
One guy dey tell me the story of his family, His da and mom were Graduates working in the US in the 70s then the state creation in 1976 happened. Their state govt searched abroad for all graduates from their states and offered them instant employment in Nigeria and very good offers

The dad relocated and ed a manufacturing company, the mom relocated ed the state civil service, So did many of their state people who were abroad in the 70s. Some even moved to Nigeria with their Oyinbo wives

Now the parents regret ever making that move. All the assets he built in the state are almost worthless. Their Nigerian pension completely worthless. Plus the family has been threatened with kidnap multiple times. They got letters from kidnappers telling them to pay ransom to avoid being kidnapped.
The only thing that helped them was they had their first child in the US who later filed for the parents to become US citizens. And the work they did in the US in the 70s qualified them for some Social security benefits in the US

The mom came back to Naija in the late 70s with the pregnancy of one the child, The child was born in Naija and till now hasn't been fortunate to get a US visa again

Anybody wey don miss this kind opportunity, e dey always hard for them to get opportunity abroad again except something miraculous just happens.

One guy threatened suicide one saturday morning in the area I used to live before. His mum travelled with his dad to the UK in the 80's after marriage and they gave birth to him there. Only God knows what happened to his mum, she just said she wanted to come to naija to come see her mum(The guy's grandma). After she came back to Nigeria she was living with her mum and her son; comepletly forgetting her hubby in the UK.

After several years in Naija she lost with her husband and continued her life in naija. The son grew up to hate the life he was living with his mum and grandma who was then a retired heistress. The guy didn't make any headway years after secondary school education. One time he asked his mum for his UK port and she claimed "It is with grandma". The guy tried everything to get it but all his efforts proved abortive. I guess they may have misplaced it.

We woke one Saturday morning and heard a lot of noise. People were begging this guy to come down from the tank top he had climbed with rope in his hands which he wanted to tie on his neck to commit seppuku. He claimed he was tired of his life and wanted to end it all. Omo no be small thing. All the elders and adults and even his mates were all begging him to come down o , make he no unalive himself before Olopa go come pack everybody for area to come write statement. Eventually they talked him out of it sha after hours.

The last time I knew about that bros, he was doing Newspaper Vendor in traffic.

BlueRayDick:


The kidnapping and militancy in those South South states didn't happen in isolation, It was actually in response to the long age issue of oil spillage and pollution in those areas . The militancy didn't even start during democratic government, it started in the last days of military government. Those boys only got more powerful when the soldiers went back to barracks and they arm twisted the new set of politicians.

In fact, the new set of politicians have some of those boys working for them so it became an issue . Dem Akwa Ibom-Cross people didn't suffer as much oil spillage and well blowout like those in the Rivers and Delta faced, that's why they had no reason to really embrace militancy.

You see Nigeria ehn, a whole lot of things don happen for this country that had no input of politicians but it is normal for politicians to claim the good things and dissociate themselves from the bad things.

There were genuine cries by people with concerns about environmental degradation like Ken Saro wiwa but the militancy was driven by thugs who didn't care about any spillage or environment, Do you genuinely think Asari, Tompolo, John Togo, Soboma etc cares if people were swimming in oil waste and inhaling kpofire everyday? These people are just thugs empowered by politicians and got out of control.

Since Tompolo Asari etc have been running the creeks have they for one day mentioned anything about environment? Its basically give us money, give us contract or we stop the flow of oil.

When you empower and arm thugs, na only the beginning you know you don't know how it will end. The Delta thing after dem finish Warri Ijaw Itsekiri -Urhobo war, Ammunitions don surplus. So how do you tell people you have guns and rocket launchers they were supposed to use on your enemies to go home and become regular citizens and start looking for STEM and non STEM jobs?

Same thing everywhere war or mini crisis don happen. Looks Sudan and South Sudan after dem fight war finish, dem separate them, both sides don start another round of internal wars because people armed wont go back to living a regular life if the flow of money stops

liveLongNprospa:
Airmark do you believe tinubu is aware of this?

Maybe Oasis will have an idea.

raumdeuter:


There were genuine cries by people with concerns about environmental degradation like Ken Saro wiwa but the militancy was driven by thugs who didn't care about any spillage or environment, Do you genuinely think Asari, Tompolo, John Togo, Soboma etc cares if people were swimming in oil waste and inhaling kpofire everyday? These people are just thugs empowered by politicians and got out of control.

Since Tompolo Asari etc have been running the creeks have they for one day mentioned anything about environment? Its basically give us money, give us contract or we stop the flow of oil.

When you empower and arm thugs, na only the beginning you know you don't know how it will end. The Delta thing after dem finish Warri Ijaw Itsekiri -Urhobo war, Ammunitions don surplus. So how do you tell people you have guns and rocket launchers they were supposed to use on your enemies to go home and become regular citizens and start looking for STEM and non STEM jobs?

Same thing everywhere war or mini crisis don happen. Looks Sudan and South Sudan after dem fight war finish, dem separate them, both sides don start another round of internal wars because people armed wont go back to living a regular life if the flow of money stops

That's the issue; once an agitation goes from peaceful protests (which government usually ignore) to armed/violent protests, all bets will be off. It is usually difficult to tell people with gun to embrace peace.

Reccy ur guy Abejide don APC.

Ibime:


Anyone who went to Lagos in the 1990s will poopoo on this theory. Obidients should stop this.

https://www.theafricareport.com/17906/lagos-was-an-orderly-city-until-1991-then-city-planners-left-for-abuja/

You dey mind them?

One even said the one that privatized federal govt enterprises and gave his friends/concubines, have dignity.

Ibime:


If you can show me where I ed in that immigration discussion, please quote it, or is it this like your lamba court case with BlueRay yesterday with no evidence.

And BTW I'm not an immigrant, but I don't curse the land where I'm seeking bread if no be my fatherland

Gbam.

TemporaryHansel:


Flesh and blood didn't reveal this to you. You are a wise man.
If only obidients will stop playing emotional politics.... They're just APC pawns at this point.

Most of them are not smart as we can even see on this thread. Na imaginary tears dem dey drink to see front.

Well, in my opinion

We can keep flogging the past issues, and we are absolutely right. But it doesn't change the fact that almost all our governors are not visionary leaders.

What exactly are they doing to improve manufacturing in their states? What exactly are they doing to woo companies from Lagos to their states?

I haven't been to many states, but I can tell you that of all the ones I have been too, Lagos offers a better security than the rest.

For most states, only the capital is the most secured and easiest place to do business. After the capital, you're on your own.

izzou:
Well, in my opinion

We can keep flogging the past issues, and we are absolutely right. But it doesn't change the fact that almost all our governors are not visionary leaders.

What exactly are they doing to improve manufacturing in their states? What exactly are they doing to woo companies from Lagos to their states?

I haven't been to many states, but I can tell you that of all the ones I have been too, Lagos offers a better security than the rest.

For most states, only the capital is the most secured and easiest place to do business. After the capital, you're on your own.

I am not excusing those state governors o, because some of these governors are cows. But I just need to point out few things in relation to this Ur post :

1. There's absolutely nothing u can do to encourage manufacting in a country where there's no stable power supply. The few companies producing in Lagos, PH, Kano ( Yes there are still companies producing in kano), etc do so at a great cost to them. They literally provide their own source of power. The truth is not many can actually do that, hence why there are few manufacturing companies and some are still leaving due to unfavorable govemenment policies in recent times.

2. States where there are no jobs, it will be hard to get security right. The more unemployed people u have, the more people will embrace crime. Some of the people not engaging in crime even in this Lagos are shunning crime because there's opportune city for them to sell either their skill or time for money.

That being said, only true federalism can actually make Nigeria a level playing ground where u can start comparing states with each other. As of today, some states are more economically disadvantaged than the others due to no fault of theirs.

BlueRayDick:


I am not excusing those state governors o, but I just need to point out few things in relation to this Ur post :

1. There's absolutely nothing u can do to encourage manufacting in a country where there's no stable power supply. The few companies producing in Lagos, PH, Kano ( Yes there are still companies producing in kano), etc do so at a great cost to them. They literally provide their own source of power. The truth is not many can actually do that, hence why there are few manufacturing companies and some are still leaving due to unfavorable govemenment policies in recent times.

2. States where there are no jobs, it will be hard to get security right. The more unemployed people u have, the more people will embrace crime. Some of the people not engaging in crime even in this Lagos are shunning crime because there's opportune city for them to sell either their skill or time for money.

That being said, only true federalism can actually make Nigeria a level playing ground where u can start comparing states with each other. As of today, some states are more economically disadvantaged than the others due to no fault of theirs.

I when Chimaraoke Nnamani wooed NBPlc to Enugu state during his tenure. He gave them years of tax breaks and I think free land, in exchange for employing 70% of people in his state.

I mean, there are other ways to make it work, and that's why I said a lot of them are not visionary.

Lagos built an IPP that supplies power to all their hospitals and courtrooms. Are you saying Oil rich states cannot do so for free trade Zones in their states?

How many states have even thought of having FTZs sef?

Bros, the problem is a constant. We know. But as a leader, what are you doing about it? Na the Koko be that.

raumdeuter:


Take away Lagos, many places in Nigeria looks like the rest of Africa. If you fly most Africans into Lagos they won't believe this is still the same Africa

I was speaking to a man from SS yesterday he wants to buy a house in Nigeria and na only Lagos dey him mind, not warri not Benin, not Akure not Osogbo not even PH

Even most of their state Governors are more relaxed and secured in their Lagos homes.

izzou:


I when Chimaraoke Nnamani wooed NBPlc to Enugu state during his tenure. He gave them years of tax breaks and I think free land, in exchange for employing 70% of people in his state.

I mean, there are other ways to make it work, and that's why I said a lot of them are not visionary.

Lagos built an IPP that supplies power to all their hospitals and courtrooms. Are you saying Oil rich states cannot do so for free trade Zones in their states?

How many states have even thought of having FTZs sef?

Bros, the problem is a constant. We know. But as a leader, what are you doing about it? Na the Koko be that.

The oil states are actually doing FTZs but the non oil state are not really doing same.

States like Jigawa, Gombe, Bauchi, Kebbi, Nasarawa, Ekiti, etc. Which free trade zone dem wan do ? People who want to invest in such states must come with huge volume of capital to even bring the manufacturing companies to life. I believe giving such investors tax break may not really cut it for them , hence why they aren't seeing investors to woo.

Another thing is most of the state government officials spend money like they are states with oil and have investors fund lying around somewhere. The truth is some states are economically disadvantaged and for them to turn a corner they need to first learn to save government funds, invest them and then investors from outside will pick up interest in the state. That is why frivolous government spending will always be our bane as a country whether in states with oil, economically viable state or non-economically viable states.

BlueRayDick:


The oil states are actually doing FTZs but the non oil state are not really doing same.

States like Jigawa, Gombe, Bauchi, Kebbi, Nasarawa, Ekiti, etc. Which free trade zone dem wan do ? People who want to invest in such states must come with huge volume of capital to even bring the manufacturing companies to life. I believe giving such investors tax break may not really cut it for them , hence why they aren't seeing investors to woo.

Another thing is most of the state government officials spend money like they are states with oil and have investors fund lying around somewhere. The truth is some states are economically disadvantaged and for them to turn a corner they need to first learn to save government funds, invest them and then investors from outside will pick up interest in the state. That is why frivolous government spending will always be our bane as a country whether in states with oil, economically viable state or non-economically viable states.

Okay...Let's assume those ones up north are economically disadvantaged.

Why can't Southern states leverage on their closeness to Lagos and develop gradually?

My state is 8 hours to Lagos by road (I am factoring countless checkpoints and bad roads). That means that with a proper structure for transportation, either by sea or rail, it can be 4 hours.

If this is available, there are manufacturers that will ditch the idea of buying land at 1 billion in Lagos, and rather pay few millions to manufacture there

Most Southern governors are just lazy. Money kuku dey to spend, so no need to think.

izzou:


Okay...Let's assume those ones up north are economically disadvantaged.

Why can't Southern states leverage on their closeness to Lagos and develop gradually?

My state is 8 hours to Lagos by road (I am factoring countless checkpoints and bad roads). That means that with a proper structure for transportation, either by sea or rail, it can be 4 hours.

If this is available, there are manufacturers that will ditch the idea of buying land at 1 billion in Lagos, and rather pay few millions to manufacture there

Most Southern governors are just lazy. Money kuku dey to spend, so no need to think.

I agree we have a spending problem.

BlueRayDick:


I am not excusing those state governors o, because some of these governors are cows. But I just need to point out few things in relation to this Ur post :

1. There's absolutely nothing u can do to encourage manufacting in a country where there's no stable power supply. The few companies producing in Lagos, PH, Kano ( Yes there are still companies producing in kano), etc do so at a great cost to them. They literally provide their own source of power. The truth is not many can actually do that, hence why there are few manufacturing companies and some are still leaving due to unfavorable govemenment policies in recent times.

2. States where there are no jobs, it will be hard to get security right. The more unemployed people u have, the more people will embrace crime. Some of the people not engaging in crime even in this Lagos are shunning crime because there's opportune city for them to sell either their skill or time for money.

That being said, only true federalism can actually make Nigeria a level playing ground where u can start comparing states with each other. As of today, some states are more economically disadvantaged than the others due to no fault of theirs.

Most states have something they can offer that will boost the economy of their states. E.g lets say Oyo state or SW states. Lagos is a huge market that has 20m people who eat daily, what stops the govt of to from using that Oyo North Ibarapa area as heavy commercial farms and ship foodstuffs to Lagos market daily using those trains. Instead we will be waiting for Aboki to send foodstuff from 20 states away before we can eat. Or get into a JV with investors in farms a If govt is invested in the agriculture they will use state apparatus to protect against herdsmen

When you drive along Lagos Ibadan all you see are land filled with one religious center or the other. I was just thinking all these churches are filled with Professors of Agric, Agric engineering, mechanical engineering etc Why can't we have like Oyo Rice, Redeemed rice, MFM yam, NASFAT beans etc and make money from it for your state, provide employment for your congregation and indigenes

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raumdeuter:


No dey go wey I n go watch OdumejeTV for laughs, then one funny girl Nneka beads(neekahs_luxurybeads_) sef, Na Odumeje she dey use trend. Others sef don dey copy the girl

Another one na Pastor Ebuka wey dey preach like sayy na P0rn commentator

See as our GO ended the music career of izzou

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJ8qSz8tAfu/?igsh=MWQ5MXR5cnhwdWQyOA==

Odumeje is really a blessing. He is the best comedian in Nigeria. You just can't stop laughing when you are watching him.

Who's following the herbal medicine vs conventional medicine matter on X? Millions have been staked and I'm keen to know how it all plays out, the herbal man says he can eradicate HIV completely from the system of a test subject.

KingTom:
Who's following the herbal medicine vs conventional medicine matter on X? Millions have been staked and I'm keen to know how it all plays out, the herbal man says he can eradicate HIV completely from the system of a test subject.

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