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But if a Christian convert to Muslim, they accept such individual with all pleasure. But when the reverse is the case, they retort to rubbish act and behaviour. CAN should see this to the end and use this to stop this madness for future sake.

Soon and very soon, we're going to see The Lord, soon and very soon we're going to see The Lord, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, we're going to see The Lord!

Sister, don't be afraid. Hold on to the faith, the sun of Heaven will soon shine on us in the rapture!

TheJustPath:
So you're cherry-picking isolated incidents and out-of-context Hadith to make sweeping generalizations about an entire religion? That’s not just intellectually lazy—it’s dishonest.

First, “There is no compulsion in religion” (Qur’an 2:256) is a direct, unequivocal verse from the Qur’an. That’s not a Hadith—it’s scripture. It sets the foundation for religious freedom in Islam. Period. You don’t get to sidestep that by citing a historical incident or a debated narration.

Second, you quote Sunan an-Nasa’i 4060 without any understanding of context, jurisprudence, or historical application. The statement “Whoever changes his religion, kill him” has been interpreted narrowly by most jurists—referring to political treason in a time of war, not peaceful personal apostasy. But I wouldn’t expect you to know that, since you seem to think Google + outrage = scholarship.

Third, you're using an individual case in Zamfara—one state, one court, one incident—and projecting it onto 1.9 billion Muslims worldwide? That's like using a corrupt court ruling in one U.S. state to say Christianity promotes injustice. It’s laughable.

What you're “complaining about” isn’t Islam. It’s your own prejudice and confirmation bias. If you cared about truth, you’d know better. But since you’re clearly more interested in vilifying than understanding, don’t pretend this is a sincere question. It’s not.

If you’re going to debate religion, at least have the spine to do it with intellectual honesty—not with selective outrage and bad-faith arguments.

If there is no compulsion in religion as you want us to believe,

How do we reconcile the words of your prophet that


Sunan an-Nasa'i 4060
It was narrated from 'Ikrimah:
"Some people apostatized after accepting Islam, and 'Ali burned them with fire. Ibn 'Abbas said: 'If it had been me, I would not have burned them; the Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'No one should be punished with the punishment of Allah.' If it had been me, I would have killed them; the Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'"

If there is no compulsion in religion, why kill a person who returned back to his old religion before accepting Islam?

This is ridiculous!

jmoore:


https://saharareporters.com/2025/05/20/zamfara-christian-convert-zainab-set-face-trial-sharia-court-friday-switching-religion

https://www.intelregion.com/news/zamfara-government-debunks-alleged-trial-of-lady-for-converting-to-christianity/

Who’s been feeding you lies?😂😂😂. Your Sheik Uthman has been running from debating Sam Shamuon since God knows when. Even your Zakir Naik has been running from Christian Prince too. Mohammed Hijab made a false attempt at debating Christian Prince and ran with his tails tucked 😂. Please watch this video for clarity on who’s running between Sam Shamuon and Uthman.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eddY-AN1RE?si=-VIF77Mow2WZSBGa

pillager:


Wallahi all of una apologist no reach, same sam shamoun that ran away from uthman Farooq? Just go on YouTube and find sam shamoun refutations.

Here, he said he's going to debate uthman Farooq then he ran away during the physical debate 😂
https://youtube.com/shorts/_mhXNy7V5fU?si=zTCR-XihZ2HvSPSx

Una no reach wallahi.


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AntiChristian:


You're communicating with someone without integrity nor does he wish to understand whatever you say but to look for more loopholes to latch up on!

Thank you for your thoughtful advice. I understand and appreciate your concern. Engaging with someone who appears unwilling to listen or respond in good faith can indeed be frustrating and unproductive.

However, I believe it is still important to communicate with clarity, integrity, and logic—not necessarily to convince the other person, but to uphold the standards of reasoned dialogue and to provide clarity for any others who may be observing the exchange. Sometimes, it's not about changing their mind, but about setting the record straight.

That said, I will remain mindful of when a conversation has reached its limits and avoid being drawn into fruitless arguments.

Thank you again for your insight.

So many dumb people..

And you believe this story?

Hausa will take someone that's apostate to Sharia court? Lol...
Like they take Deborah abi

If you can't even identify fake news for clicking.. you are as dumb as a mule

Newton1045:


Can anyone attempt leaving Islam in Nigeria. Those who did are been hunted uptil today. Or Nigerian Muslim don follow the Quran? Anyway many people stay in Islam bc of fear. And this not right.
Am not a religious fanatics, I belive in reality on ground, love Ur nebor as ursef

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. However, I must respectfully correct several misconceptions in your statement.

First, while there may be isolated incidents of pressure or hostility toward individuals leaving Islam—as sadly happens in various religious contexts across the world—it is inaccurate and unfair to generalize this as the norm for all Muslims in Nigeria. Nigeria is a diverse country governed by a constitution that guarantees freedom of religion, and many Nigerian Muslims live peacefully with people of other faiths, including those who may have changed their beliefs.

Secondly, your question—“Do Nigerian Muslims not follow the Qur’an?”—rests on a flawed assumption. The Qur’an teaches “There is no compulsion in religion” (Qur’an 2:256), and Islamic scholars across the world have long debated and contextualized verses regarding apostasy. To reduce the entire faith and its adherents to fringe or cultural practices is neither fair nor intellectually honest.

It’s also inaccurate to claim that “many people stay in Islam out of fear.” While fear or social pressure may exist in some environments—as it can in any community—millions of Muslims in Nigeria and around the world remain in the faith because of sincere belief, spiritual conviction, and a deep connection to its teachings of justice, mercy, and comion.

Finally, you mentioned you believe in "reality on ground" and “love your neighbor as yourself.” That principle of mutual respect is shared by Islam and many other faiths. If we truly believe in coexistence and peace, then it begins with resisting harmful generalizations and striving to understand others based on facts, not assumptions.

Muslims shamelessly claimed there is no compulsion in islam while they jail or even kpai those who convert to another religion.
Same as saying Islam is a religion of peace 😂

TenQ:

If there is no compulsion in religion as you want us to believe,

How do we reconcile the words of your prophet that


Sunan an-Nasa'i 4060
It was narrated from 'Ikrimah:
"Some people apostatized after accepting Islam, and 'Ali burned them with fire. Ibn 'Abbas said: 'If it had been me, I would not have burned them; the Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'No one should be punished with the punishment of Allah.' If it had been me, I would have killed them; the Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'"

If there is no compulsion in religion, why kill a person who returned back to his old religion before accepting Islam?

Your question reflects a common but deeply flawed approach: cherry-picking a single narration without context, then using it to discredit an entire faith and its foundational principle.

First, let’s start with the verse you’re questioning: “There is no compulsion in religion” (Qur’an 2:256). This is not a vague slogan—it’s a foundational rule of Islam, reaffirming freedom of belief. It has been upheld by scholars for centuries, and it directly contradicts forced conversion or coerced belief.

Now, regarding the hadith you quoted—let’s clarify. Yes, there are narrations like Sunan an-Nasa’i 4060, but understanding prophetic tradition requires more than copying a line off a website. That narration is context-specific, tied to treasonous apostasy during wartime or rebellion against the early Muslim state, not a blanket order to kill anyone who changes their faith.

Even major Islamic scholars—classical and modern—have debated this hadith’s application for over a thousand years. Many argue that the hadith refers to political betrayal, not personal belief. You don’t have to take my word for it—read jurists like Imam Abu Hanifa, who ruled that no punishment should apply to a woman who leaves Islam, or modern scholars who argue for freedom of religion based on the Qur’an’s clear message.

The fact that you ignore all scholarly discussion, legal nuance, and historical context—and instead weaponize a single hadith—suggests you’re not seeking truth. You’re looking for ammunition to justify a bias.

If you truly cared about truth, you’d ask why so many Muslims remain committed to a religion that explicitly prohibits compulsion. You’d ask why the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) signed treaties with Christians and Jews, protected churches, and allowed freedom of belief under Islamic governance.

So let’s be clear: yes, Islam prohibits compulsion. Yes, the Qur’an takes precedence over narrations. And no, contextless quotes don't undermine the integrity of a 1,400-year-old faith. What does undermine honest discussion is selective reading and willful misrepresentation.

I checked and it is still there. Other media outlets are also reporting the story.

pillager:


Nigga, This news is fake.

https://x.com/AM_Saleeeem/status/1924838090847215934?t=upoZ9oGQLzVCHdx3DHEESQ&s=19

Sahara reporters already deleted it from their posts on Twitter.

Those hisbah Islamic extremists squad will serve the North better if they are trained to serve as teachers and instructors to train and instruct the almajiri boys and girls defacing cities and towns across Nigeria by incessant begging or recruited to civilian JTF, to fight bandits and terrorists.

indigenous234:
Who’s been feeding you lies?😂😂😂. Your Sheik Uthman has been running from debating Sam Shamuon since God knows when. Even your Zakir Naik has been running from Christian Prince too. Mohammed Hijab made a false attempt at debating Christian Prince and ran with his tails tucked 😂. Please watch this video for clarity on who’s running between Sam Shamuon and Uthman.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eddY-AN1RE?si=-VIF77Mow2WZSBGa

Sure bro, your evidence of him not running away is just him giving an that he didn't run, while I showed you a video of him running away, surely I'm lying abi?

Even Sam Shannon mentor was destroyed by zakir naik(William Campbell) and he was honest zakir naik defeated him, unlike sham Shamoun, sit this one out

Video where zakir naik debated William Campbell
https://youtu.be/VFpqUNJpJb8?si=1xsFsZQFv63PmmPU


Wallahi una no reach.

If it were an atheist having doubts or arguing against Islam, it is still understandable, how can you be a Christian and still have the mind to attack Islam on the basis of contradiction, scientific errors whereas your Bible contains worse, and undeniable, come with clean hands bruh

BlackViper:
I checked and it is still there. Other media outlets are also reporting the story.

Who be this one?

pillager:



Bruh, did he run away while uthman Farooq wore a different cloth when he arrived He ran or didn't he ?? He even, the last part where uthman Farooq wore a different cloth is just an addendum after he ran.

Cope harder. Sam even dropped a different name when asked for his name, coward ass nigga 😂. Una no reach

When he ran was uthman Farooq wearing a different cloth than he wore when Sam arrived? 😂


Attach the video, let's see



He destroyed them, yet couldn't face just one lol 😂
Who is the joker?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eddY-AN1RE&pp=ygUZc2FtIHNoYW1vdW4gdXRobWFuIGZhcm9vcQ%3D%3D


You and your cult are liars!

Does this look like he ran away?

You are liars and children of the devil!

pillager:


Sure bro, your evidence of him not running away is just him giving an that he didn't run, while I showed you a video of him running away, surely I'm lying abi?

Even Sam Shannon mentor was destroyed by zakir naik(William Campbell) and he was honest zakir naik defeated him, unlike sham Shamoun, sit this one out

Video where zakir naik debated William Campbell
https://youtu.be/VFpqUNJpJb8?si=1xsFsZQFv63PmmPU


Wallahi una no reach.

If it were an atheist having doubts or arguing against Islam, it is still understandable, how can you be a Christian and still have the mind to attack Islam on the basis of contradiction, scientific errors whereas your Bible contains worse, and undeniable, come with clean hands bruh

You edited a video and want people to believe only what your falisified camera records show.

Someone else has brought out his own camera records and you refute it?


https://m.youtube.com/shorts/-XrxrhXKHbE

Is that what you call running away?

The man refused to acknowledge him and he left honourably.

What is the big deal?

babat89:



You edited a video and want people to believe only what your falisified camera records show.

Someone else has brought out his own camera records and you refute it?


https://m.youtube.com/shorts/-XrxrhXKHbE

Is that what you call running away?

The man refused to acknowledge him and he left honourably.

What is the big deal?

🤣🤣

Lie like sham Shamoun, lie.
The man refused to acknowledge him, yet he asked for his name? Which he gave a wrong name and he even shook hands with him, bruh give the phone to someone sensible.

pillager:


🤣🤣

Lie like sham Shamoun, lie.
The man refused to acknowledge him, yet he asked for his name? Which he gave a wrong name and he even shook hands with him, bruh give the phone to someone sensible.

If I ask for your name, shake your hand, then ignore you, does that mean I acknowledged you?
Have you watched the longer video or you just want to be daft?

Are you that bird-brained?

What argument did your Sheik make that made Shamoun run?

One reason Nigeria is labeled a "terrorist country" and accused of persecuting Christians is when the US Senate warned the Nigerian government about the persecution of Christians. The government dismissed it, claiming it's a lie and asking, "What about this?" What a shame!

Now, this quran age confirms "Islam is religion of war " not of peace.

TenQ:

If there is no compulsion in religion as you want us to believe,

How do we reconcile the words of your prophet that


Sunan an-Nasa'i 4060
It was narrated from 'Ikrimah:
"Some people apostatized after accepting Islam, and 'Ali burned them with fire. Ibn 'Abbas said: 'If it had been me, I would not have burned them; the Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'No one should be punished with the punishment of Allah.' If it had been me, I would have killed them; the Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'"

If there is no compulsion in religion, why kill a person who returned back to his old religion before accepting Islam?

anythingoes23:
Now, this quran age confirms "Islam is religion of war " not of peace.

We are told to ignore the threats until they spring their war on us!

False news

https://www.channelstv.com/2025/05/21/zamfara-govt-denies-trial-of-woman-for-converting-to-christianity/

TenQ:

If there is no compulsion in religion as you want us to believe,

How do we reconcile the words of your prophet that


Sunan an-Nasa'i 4060
It was narrated from 'Ikrimah:
"Some people apostatized after accepting Islam, and 'Ali burned them with fire. Ibn 'Abbas said: 'If it had been me, I would not have burned them; the Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'No one should be punished with the punishment of Allah.' If it had been me, I would have killed them; the Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'"

If there is no compulsion in religion, why kill a person who returned back to his old religion before accepting Islam?

Your attempt at a gotcha moment falls flat due to a shallow and cherry-picked understanding of Islamic jurisprudence and hadith sciences.

First, "There is no compulsion in religion" (Qur’an 2:256) is an unequivocal verse from the Qur’an itself — the highest source of authority in Islam. It refers to the individual's freedom to accept or reject faith without coercion. This is the cornerstone of Islamic belief regarding conversion.

Now let’s deal with the hadith you referenced (Sunan an-Nasa’i 4060). You parade this hadith around without understanding its context, classification, or jurisprudential scope. The ruling “Whoever changes his religion, kill him” refers not to a simple change of belief in a private setting, but to active political treason during wartime — a rebellion that posed an existential threat to the Muslim community. Apostasy in early Islam was often tied to sedition, espionage, or betrayal of the state — not personal disbelief.

Let me make this clearer for you: apostasy punishable by death was never about someone quietly changing their religion — it was about publicly defecting in a way that endangered the early Muslim state, which was under siege and fragile. Every legal system in history — including yours — has had capital punishment for treason. This is no different.

Even scholars have disagreed over the interpretation of this hadith. Ibn Abbas disagreed with Ali. Many classical and modern scholars also restrict or reject the use of this hadith as a basis for punishment in today's context, especially in non-theocratic, pluralistic societies.

So no, this doesn’t contradict “no compulsion in religion” unless you insist on ripping hadiths out of context and interpreting Islamic law through your own ignorance. If you're going to critique Islam, at least do the homework first.

Amen

Beremx:
She will come out victorious. I hope she gets good lawyers to fight for her. She has every right to change her religion abeg.