NewStats: 3,259,377 , 8,169,946 topics. Date: Saturday, 24 May 2025 at 07:46 PM 4w5s66

Fred2020:


As per the proposed changes, I recommend people write to their MPs so their views are considered during the consultation process in parliament, and MPS can appreciate that a section of their electorate is not pleased with the way the change has been proposed and the language thereof.

I have written my MP and asked her to push for a fairer deal when the topic comes up in parliament and recommend others do the same.

My own MP is actually Aunty kemi, you see my own dilemma? 😂

Raalsalghul:


At your last statement do you think it is a function of intelligence or value system?

I'm inclined to think it's the latter.

Our matter don tire me to dey think about. This development of a thing should not be hard as previously thought. Many countries are doing their best to move up the ladder, no matter how small. So, why should it be difficult for elites from different groups to agree that let things be done properly while adhering to cultural beliefs and borders? Eh? You do this one there, I do this one here and everyone wins at the end of the day. Why should it be hard?

Goke7:


By whining the MPs that you’re willing to give up your citizenship status and you want to exit the UK to help reduce net migration 😂

Goke7:


My own MP is actually Aunty kemi, you see my own dilemma? 😂

Still send to her, so she knows one electorate isnt pleased with it and she gets one less vote

ReesheesuKnack:



Do you recall 2-tier Kier’s ‘Youth Mobility’ visa scheme? Where youngsters from EUROPE will come to the UK?

I think those will fill the healthcare vacancies.

If this is indeed the plan, then the whole outcry is all about racism. More like "people who look like us" as against people who look totally different. Yeah.

justwise:


If your citizenship was not obtained through fraud and you are not a threat to national security..can you tell me how your citizenship will be taken away from you?

What you said is what my initial statement was meant to reiterate .Read it again. I said there is nothing like absolute right to live in the Uk cos it could be taken away under certain circumstances ie threat to society as mentioned by you. I am struggling to understand why this is being responded to in this fashion.

Viruses:


Thanks for this comment.

This just shows that you need to start living the kind of life you will live when you become a citizen because becoming a citizen may not change much.

Exactly, cos if fit happen say you make an innocent donation and the charity you donate to is termed to be on the wrong side by friends of Uk, wahala pro max.

Gerrard59:

Our matter don tire me to dey think about. This development of a thing should not be hard as previously thought. Many countries are doing their best to move up the ladder, no matter how small. So, why should it be difficult for elites from different groups to agree that let things be done properly while adhering to cultural beliefs and borders? Eh? You do this one there, I do this one here and everyone wins at the end of the day. Why should it be hard?

At the bold is why I think it's not an intelligence issue. Even if you cannot create or invent, you can at least "copy" or "outsource".

Our value system as black people has kept us at the bottom of the ladder.

Is it time to activate Japa/relocation 2.0? Which countries give family visas at this time? Please o

Santa2:


Based on current trend it seems like Farage might be the next PM, as a smart politician that he is, he is already painting Starmer as flopper referencing his initial stand on immigration in 2020 as reference, except some miracle happens like how Trump gave the Liberals a new lease of life in Canada. While I detest all that reforms stands for, I would like for them to get into power as I believe they would flop and flonder. If the current whitepaper is implemented I believe the legal migration numbers would go down and at that point they (reform) would have to look for ways to attract people in to do the work citizens wouldn't do, that oxymoron would make for a good laugh. Most skilled people are already looking at Japa 2.0/3.0 even if it just for the sake of giving them middle finger . Its really annoying when you already 3 years in on skilled work visa, with 2 years to ILR in view then you realize the goal post might soon be shifted. No be their fault sha na Naija leaders cause am. Anyways for those looking at options, You might want to look into EB2 - NIW which gives US green card without need for Job offer, The requirement is not stringent as EB-1A only that it has longer waiting times than EB 1. Of the 6 criteria for EB2, you need to show at least 3 of the criteria. Make God help all of us. God no go shame us for this Oga Charlie Land.

Lol, most other countries are already preparing or begining to reconsider the idea of tightening their immigration polices following trump and the recent UK immigration policy change.
For example Canada's newly appointed immigration minister has proposed to cut annual immigration by 33% till 2027.
The United state is a no go area for many. For example unlike the uk where a skilled worker is entitled to ILR in 5yrs or 10yrs.
In the US if you like spend 20yrs on H1b is doesn't lead to green card or Permanent resident.
Except an employer file for you, which is reserved for highly skilled professionals like nurses, doctors and IT professionals. Even with employment based EB-3 petition there's an annual cap of 140k green card and waiting time takes around 2-4yrs and 2-3yrs by marriage.
Unlike the UK were 1yr after ILR you can apply for your British port. In the US you can only apply for an American port after 5yrs on green card.
The only good thing about a US work visa is that your kids born in the US get automatic citizenship which UK doesn't offer.
However the new orange man in the white house is working relentlessly to stop this.

Also, just recently the Australia media is beginning to put pressure on the reelected pro-immigration labour government to imitate the UK recent immigration policy change.
They even go as far as referencing Nigel farage na that one dey shock me, imagine farage name constantly being cited in the Australia media as a true patriotic nationalist that could force stammer to do the needful before the Uk become an island of strangers .
Spontaneously the labour government there might take a script from stammer's playbook. After all being liberal doesn't stop you from throwing in some right-wing cookies if it's just to please the public. Because for politicians whether right wing or left, public sentiment is supreme if you wanna stay long on that seat.

So last last jumping from one country to another may not cut it for some people especially those who have invested alot in the UK already.
The best thing like someone has suggested before, is to consider investment in Nigeria and nurse the idea of a possible return back home in the future.

Goke7:


My own MP is actually Aunty kemi, you see my own dilemma? 😂

Wahala

dannytoe:

Lol, most other countries are already preparing or begining to reconsider the idea of tightening their immigration polices following trump and the recent UK immigration policy change.
For example Canada's newly appointed immigration minister has proposed to cut annual immigration by 33% till 2027.
The United state is a no go area for many. For example unlike the uk where a skilled worker is entitled to ILR in 5yrs or 10yrs.
In the US if you like spend 20yrs on H1b is doesn't lead to green card or Permanent resident.
Except an employer file for you, which is reserved for highly skilled professionals like nurses, doctors and IT professionals. Even with employment based EB-3 petition there's an annual cap of 140k green card and waiting time takes around 2-4yrs and 2-3yrs by marriage.
Unlike the UK were 1yr after ILR you can apply for your British port. In the US you can only apply for an American port after 5yrs on green card.
The only good thing about a US work visa is that your kids born in the US get automatic citizenship which UK doesn't offer.
However the new orange man in the white house is working relentlessly to stop this.

Also, just recently the Australia media is beginning to put pressure on the reelected pro-immigration labour government to imitate the UK recent immigration policy change.
They even go as far as referencing Nigel farage na that one dey shock me, imagine farage name constantly being cited in the Australia media as a true patriotic nationalist that could force stammer to do the needful before the Uk become an island of strangers .
Spontaneously the labour government there might take a script from stammer's playbook. After all being liberal doesn't stop you from throwing in some right-wing cookies if it's just to please the public. Because for politicians whether right wing or left, public sentiment is supreme if you wanna stay long on that seat.

So last last jumping from one country to another may not cut it for some people especially those who have invested alot in the UK already.
The best thing like someone has suggested before, is to consider investment in Nigeria and nurse the idea of a possible return back home in the future.

You can self petition with either eb1 or eb2 and still get your green card. Unlike the uk the h1b, L1 and O1 visas are all dual intent visas and from 3 months on those visas you can start petitioning for your green card and that’s still holds and is not changing in-spite of the orange man antics. It’s that straightforward, No uncertainty and no drama. And once you’re on h1b and have a green card approval despite the long waiting times, you remain valid in the country even if it’s for 20 years till your green card is ready, again no drama and uncertainty. The huge difficulty is in getting those dual intent visas.

dannytoe:

Lol, most other countries are already preparing or begining to reconsider the idea of tightening their immigration polices following trump and the recent UK immigration policy change.
For example Canada's newly appointed immigration minister has proposed to cut annual immigration by 33% till 2027.
The United state is a no go area for many. For example unlike the uk where a skilled worker is entitled to ILR in 5yrs or 10yrs.
In the US if you like spend 20yrs on H1b is doesn't lead to green card or Permanent resident.
Except an employer file for you, which is reserved for highly skilled professionals like nurses, doctors and IT professionals. Even with employment based EB-3 petition there's an annual cap of 140k green card and waiting time takes around 2-4yrs and 2-3yrs by marriage.
Unlike the UK were 1yr after ILR you can apply for your British port. In the US you can only apply for an American port after 5yrs on green card.
The only good thing about a US work visa is that your kids born in the US get automatic citizenship which UK doesn't offer.
However the new orange man in the white house is working relentlessly to stop this.

Also, just recently the Australia media is beginning to put pressure on the reelected pro-immigration labour government to imitate the UK recent immigration policy change.
They even go as far as referencing Nigel farage na that one dey shock me, imagine farage name constantly being cited in the Australia media as a true patriotic nationalist that could force stammer to do the needful before the Uk become an island of strangers .
Spontaneously the labour government there might take a script from stammer's playbook. After all being liberal doesn't stop you from throwing in some right-wing cookies if it's just to please the public. Because for politicians whether right wing or left, public sentiment is supreme if you wanna stay long on that seat.

So last last jumping from one country to another may not cut it for some people especially those who have invested alot in the UK already.
The best thing like someone has suggested before, is to consider investment in Nigeria and nurse the idea of a possible return back home in the future.

Returning back is not easy, it takes time and planning, it might take some up to 20 years to finalize that plan cos once you attain these high standard of living in the west, its way more expensive in Nigeria to replicate such levels. Also so me people have lost with those the left back home and might fail to accommodate the new reality which more often is harsh.as for me, I see myself as working in the UK and Living in Nigeria

Phayie:




You can try SFS Fund. They offer over 19% interest. I've been with them for over 2yrs
BUT PLEASE DO YOUR DUE DILIGENT
https://sfsfund.com

Made an initial deposit into sfs, let's see how it goes...... 😁😊

justwise:

I will consider Branch but if the process is anything like Armone then I will not bother

SFS, on tow..... 😂😁

dannytoe:

Lol, most other countries are already preparing or begining to reconsider the idea of tightening their immigration polices following trump and the recent UK immigration policy change.
For example Canada's newly appointed immigration minister has proposed to cut annual immigration by 33% till 2027.
The United state is a no go area for many. For example unlike the uk where a skilled worker is entitled to ILR in 5yrs or 10yrs.
In the US if you like spend 20yrs on H1b is doesn't lead to green card or Permanent resident.
Except an employer file for you, which is reserved for highly skilled professionals like nurses, doctors and IT professionals. Even with employment based EB-3 petition there's an annual cap of 140k green card and waiting time takes around 2-4yrs and 2-3yrs by marriage.
Unlike the UK were 1yr after ILR you can apply for your British port. In the US you can only apply for an American port after 5yrs on green card.
The only good thing about a US work visa is that your kids born in the US get automatic citizenship which UK doesn't offer.
However the new orange man in the white house is working relentlessly to stop this.

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Top tier comment!

I laugh when I see comments on X or IG saying Nigerians should consider other European countries with “free” tuition etc. Asides language barrier, economic opportunities are scarce.

Last last, we all have to return home to Naija, one way or the other. No visa required.

Jamesclooney:


Top tier comment!

I laugh when I see comments on X or IG saying Nigerians should consider other European countries with “free” tuition etc. Asides language barrier, economic opportunities are scarce.

Last last, we all have to return home to Naija, one way or the other. No visa required.

You would be going alone...... 😁😂😊

Lexusgs430:
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You would be going alone...... 😁😂😊

Lol, you can say that again.

I grew up in Nigeria, it was a good place to live back then, but unfortunately its a good place to leave now. The UK may be rearranging its immigration system now, but I plan to stay and do all possible to fit my children in legally. Returning to live in Nigeria permanently is not my plan B, C, D or J.

Cyberknight:


Lol, you can say that again.

I grew up in Nigeria, it was a good place to live back then, but unfortunately its a good place to leave now. The UK may be rearranging its immigration system now, but I plan to stay and do all possible to fit my children in legally. Returning to live in Nigeria permanently is not my plan B, C, D or J.

Currently holidaying in Nigeria, those who are gaslighting our people to return home just want them to return to poverty. If you’ve built a life with your family in any western country, upskill and maintained the highest standard possible in your career or business you’ll always be in demand no matter the immigration changes. Your plan B or Z should never to return to Nigeria but instead japa 2.0 to another advanced nation. The Brits themselves migrate all over the world, Nigerians should emulate that too and not cower under manipulative narratives to remain stagnant and not advance their human potential.

Lexusgs430:
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You would be going alone...... 😁😂😊

😂 Gbam, the words of our elders are wise sayings!

Goke7:


You can self petition with either eb1 or eb2 and still get your green card. Unlike the uk the h1b, L1 and O1 visas are all dual intent visas and from 3 months on those visas you can start petitioning for your green card and that’s still holds and is not changing in-spite of the orange man antics. It’s that straightforward, No uncertainty and no drama. And once you’re on h1b and have a green card approval despite the long waiting times, you remain valid in the country even if it’s for 20 years till your green card is ready, again no drama and uncertainty. The huge difficulty is in getting those dual intent visas.

Therein lies the problem. Anyone who's capable of getting the eb1 or eb2 visa would most likely qualify under the proposed fast track settlement policy so they're fine either way.

😂🤣😂

What's that saying? Indians no dey carry last 🤣

Zahra29:
😂🤣😂

All cheap political talk, your young ones will not do those jobs done by foreign workers.

These young and middle aged Brits can't stand their elderly parents...they will send them straight to care homes to be care-for by those foreign workers.

1.In all these, primarily i blame the British govt that allowed the COS and student visa abuse to go on for far too long as they profit from it

2. Nigerians, Indians mainly contribution to this dragonia immigration policy because the immigration system was abused in a massive scale from 2020 to 2024.

3. Greedy/criminal agents who sold COS(fake or genuine), they brought people in with no shift and many end up relying on food banks to survive, calming asylum with made up stories etc.

These three parties actions are not affecting many who played by the book

Goke7:


Currently holidaying in Nigeria, those who are gaslighting our people to return home just want them to return to poverty. If you’ve built a life with your family in any western country, upskill and maintained the highest standard possible in your career or business you’ll always be in demand no matter the immigration changes. Your plan B or Z should never to return to Nigeria but instead japa 2.0 to another advanced nation. The Brits themselves migrate all over the world, Nigerians should emulate that too and not cower under manipulative narratives to remain stagnant and not advance their human potential.

Which viable first world nation is pro-immigration at the moment? Happy for all those who’ve achieved settled status/citizenship…but not everyone is in the same boat.

Jamesclooney:


Top tier comment!

I laugh when I see comments on X or IG saying Nigerians should consider other European countries with “free” tuition etc. Asides language barrier, economic opportunities are scarce.
Last last, we all have to return home to Naija, one way or the other. No visa required.

Even if you consider going to another country.
It's takes alot of financial and mental commitment to begin migration to a new country over again.

And what if the country change their immigration rules and you become caught in the cross fire? You start looking for another country to migrate to again?
Nigeria is still a safe heaven for many abroad even though the country is far from better.
Imagine there's a war between the UK and Russia?
You won't even have to beg Nigerians to return back to naija . They will gladly self deport .

erico2k2:

Returning back is not easy, it takes time and planning, it might take some up to 20 years to finalize that plan cos once you attain these high standard of living in the west, its way more expensive in Nigeria to replicate such levels. Also so me people have lost with those the left back home and might fail to accommodate the new reality which more often is harsh.as for me, I see myself as working in the UK and Living in Nigeria

That's very true.
I'm not saying people should start packing their bags and go back to Nigeria.
It's just that there's a significant pool of Nigerians in the UK that don't even wanna hear or entertain the idea of even a visit back home talkless of possible relocation.
Because the truth is, until you get your British port. Don't be too far from home (last resort) because this people can switch immigration policy like change-over.

Raalsalghul:


At the bold is why I think it's not an intelligence issue. Even if you cannot create or invent, you can at least "copy" or "outsource".

Our value system as black people has kept us at the bottom of the ladder.

As you believe this, what are you doing to change it?

dannytoe:


So last last jumping from one country to another may not cut it for some people especially those who have invested alot in the UK already.
The best thing like someone has suggested before, is to consider investment in Nigeria and nurse the idea of a possible return back home in the future.

You make certain points with the rising right wing narrative. However, I've always found it quite troubling that whenever changes that'd disproportionately affect us are put forward, some would look to excuse it by looking for the worst elsewhere. The other day it was using Saudi Arabia as an example. It's like telling someone suffering abuse not to complain cos others may have it worse. Is that not the mentality that has left some parts of Nigeria in a sorry state?

What you have is a mash-up of what you cherrypicked as the worst of several nations including random media debate. What about the areas where those nations perform better than the UK? Or is it a competition for the worst?

If today, visa fees were raised to 10k, ILR to 20yrs and we're excluded from buying our homes, would you still say afterall, 'Saudi Arabia does abc'?

With migration, people take opportunities where they see fit. Travelling is education. Always worth ing that when it comes to migrating, we as a group have hardly moved.

Goke7:


You can self petition with either eb1 or eb2 and still get your green card. Unlike the uk the h1b, L1 and O1 visas are all dual intent visas and from 3 months on those visas you can start petitioning for your green card and that’s still holds and is not changing in-spite of the orange man antics. It’s that straightforward, No uncertainty and no drama. And once you’re on h1b and have a green card approval despite the long waiting times, you remain valid in the country even if it’s for 20 years till your green card is ready, again no drama and uncertainty. The huge difficulty is in getting those dual intent visas.

True, but it all does it worth the struggle? especially in a toxic place like the US with gun violence and expensive healthcare.
How many immigrants in the UK now are ready to spend another 15-20yrs fighting for citizenship in the US? I doubt many? Certainly not these ones that are already complaining about ILR being shited to 10yrs.
I myself, if I'm in same situation wouldn't go that path.
Besides many of the immigrants in the UK that want to leave UK cant qualify for EB-1 even the less stringent EB-2? I Doubt even up to 3% do.
Even the UK has something similar Global talent visa which still leads to ILR in 5yrs.
But of cause many ain't applying for it because like i said earlier they don't meet the requirements.
It's the same reason why doctors, nurses and IT professionals were exempt from the new ILR rule, because the UK know they are well sought after in many other countries. So instead they go after the low hanging fruit, careworkers.
One of the requirements in EB-2 is to show evidence that your job or professional carrier qualify for national interest waiver? Many working in care don't meet this one criteria alone. In fact many don't meet majority of the criteria as careworker isn't considered a professional job.

Cyberknight:


Lol, you can say that again.

I grew up in Nigeria, it was a good place to live back then, but unfortunately it’s a good place to leave now. The UK may be rearranging its immigration system now, but I plan to stay and do all possible to fit my children in legally. Returning to live in Nigeria permanently is not my plan B, C, D or J.

I understand your POV, and it may be possible for some—especially those already settled. Unfortunately, for some of us on the Skilled Worker route, the signs are not looking great; hence, contingency plans need to be activated.

I say this as someone who was impacted by the removal of the PSW in 2011 and had only four months to return post-graduation. So, this is my second missionary journey—and it feels like déjà vu all over again.

As an earlier poster mentioned, the US, Canada, Australia, et al. are all tightening their borders. So what’s the viable alternative… Côte d’Ivoire or Sudan?

Lastly, I’ve recently seen numerous debates about the best place to retire or invest in real estate—abroad (care home) or Naija (family home). I reckon this recent announcement will push some people back into the Naija camp. It reminds me of the experience of the Igbos during the Biafran war.

In the end, to each his own.

Goke7:


That’s where the issue is, folks don’t really enjoy the reward of their labour and the so called free healthcare and other perks don’t really compensate for the huge chunk of taxes. It’s also the reason many prefer to rely on benefits than to work themselves out for others to benefit from their huge taxes

True- those earning well feel they are over-taxed with not much to show, while many don't see the point to work.

Except is exceptional cases, the free healthcare for someone on good pay is hardly an advantage. Many high earners who left would get better access to healthcare by simply employing part of the money saved by paying lower taxes while earning more elsewhere.
The ISA and SIPP are largely unmatched but then, one still has to earn to put in those.