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Abia Monarch Raises The Alarm Over Massive Land Acquisition By Herdsmen (13687 Views)

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Believeintruth: 3:46am On May 05
Lifestone:

Fulani used their money to buy Land, probably for their cattles to feed, what's wrong with that? That's what we've all been saying stop open grassing

The issue here is did the traditional ruler tell you that these people bought land. Land acquisition could mean a land grab. Where in this Nigeria have you seen herdsmen acquire lands?

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ribbit: 3:47am On May 05
DIVINEEVIDENCE:
Did they forcefully grab the land?

Whoever sold them that land must be very stupid.
does that mean Fulani selling lands to igbos in the north are also stupid?

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Believeintruth: 3:48am On May 05
Sometimes people in NL need to be smart and apply deductive reasoning. The traditional ruler didn't imply from his statement that acquisition meant they bought the land. It could clearly mean a land grab, these areas could mean Bush areas that these guys settled in. Tell me where in this our Nigeria did herdsmen acquire land through purchase?

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Bittersweetnig(m): 3:50am On May 05
yarimo:
But it's not a security threat for a Easterner to buy land in the northern part of the country? Very unfortunate intolerant people mteeeew
did eastner càrry rifle about killing people in the North? Check your brain because you can't comprehend anything at all

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Lifestone(m): 3:51am On May 05
Believeintruth:


The issue here is did the traditional ruler tell you that these people bought land. Land acquisition could mean a land grab. Where in this Nigeria have you see herdsmen acquire lands?
Acquisition means legal ownership of land. It's you that should have told us how you know it's land grab. Let these guys do their business in peace. This is what we asked for.
Now they've acquired land to stop open grassing, yet you dey complain

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Believeintruth: 3:52am On May 05
Lifestone:

Acquisition means legal ownership of land. It's you that should have told us how you know it's land grab. Let these guys do their business in peace. This is what we asked for.
Now they've acquired land to stop open grassing, yet you dey complain

Where in the write up did they say they had legal ownership of the land? Tell me where in Nigeria did herdsmen acquire land, the same people who are saying government should give them land. Haba you should be smarter than this
waternogatenemy: 4:00am On May 05
THEY WILL LOSE EVERYTHING.



MONEY, LAND COW IN THE END.
waternogatenemy: 4:01am On May 05
WE DONT WANT FOREIGNERS ON IGBO SOIL





OTHER INDIGENOUS NIGERIANS YES NOT FOOOOLANI




IF U DONT LIKE OUR RULES,
waternogatenemy: 4:03am On May 05
WE HAVE TOLD THEM COUNTLESS TIMES, YE THEY EMPLOY TRICKS TO GAIN ACCESS TO OUR ANCESTRAL HOMES.



WE DONT GO TO GUINEA TO BUY LAND FROM FOOOOLANI VILLAGES CARRYING AK467.




IF OTHER PARTS OF NIGERIANS DONT KNOW THEIR LEFT FROM THEIR RIGHT WE DO.


IGBO PEOPLE KNOW EXACTLY WAT THEY ARE DOING.
Ewedegubbler: 4:16am On May 05
if they are buying the lands then its a good one.. they can do whatever they want on their property.

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tabaralph: 4:18am On May 05
yarimo:
But it's not a security threat for a Easterner to buy land in the northern part of the country? Very unfortunate intolerant people mteeeew
Yarimo wallahi you need oraimo cord to wire that your oblong’s head for factory reset of your brain, does easterners that acquired lands in the north posed any security risk or destroy farmland?

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zedegit: 4:33am On May 05
Lanretoye:
But you people can go and buy land in other parts of the country and it is not security threats.when they do una back e go turn to tribalism and marginalization.

Why una dey talk like say una comot from inside bottle? Una no dey hear how fulani dey slaughter una Papa and mama for bush?

All over Plateau, Kaduna, Katsina, Ogun, Benue etc too numerous.

I know say politics suppose get level but una don leave politics dey enter heartless

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RandomFellow: 4:45am On May 05
ribbit:
So it's bad for Fulanis to buy massive land in abia for their business, but it's okay for igbos to buy land everywhere else abi?



They sha like dishing out what they cannot take.

If only they buy the lands without ulterior motives. It's actually a jihad, we all know! Unfortunately, you'll pretend like it's not. The plan of Uthman Danfodiyo is still very much alive.

Igbos buy lands in the North, and West... But they don't claim to be indigenes of those places. These fulanis are coming to become indigenes; it's the same plan as Ruga, but with different fundings

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Christistruth02: 4:47am On May 05
Bittersweetnig:
did eastner càrry rifle about killing people in the North? Check your brain because you can't comprehend anything at all



Some imported dangerous fake drugs that did much damage to the unsuspecting customers and consumers

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olyrayy(m): 4:49am On May 05
RandomFellow:
Its not supposed to be an issue; but knowing that the Caliphate want the whole of Southern Nigeria to become a conquered territory, this calls for concern.

Their plan is simple- acquire massive lands legally; bring their people in tiny bits, and let them marry and reproduce; overpopulate the acquired lands by massive births; covertly begin to ask for basic rights like schools, hospitals, markets, rights to vote, etc; become major political players in the said area where they have taken root, like deciding who becomes the chairman of a local government chairman or even governor. Strike a deal with a desperate politician to advance their course; get an opportunity to put their person in power... Take over the state and never relinquish their acquired power... Continue till their holy book is dipped in the Atlantic Ocean!

Read about Afikpo North in Ebonyi state (focus on Mgbom, Uwanna), and Ilorin in Kwara state.

You can replace caliphate with Igbo in this sentence and it would still be talking about the same thing.

All Nigerians are free to live and vote in any part of the country. All Nigerians are indigenes of Nigeria.

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Difrent: 4:51am On May 05
agulion:
It is very bad omen to sale land to fulani, even half plot

But you proudly buy lands from other tribes and is even threatening Yorubas with domination since they are so poor , you will outprice the indigenes and soon will displace the yorubas in their cities
Now you have the Fulanis planning exactly the same thing you plan against the yourbas against you.....you begin to cry.
What took those Fulani elites so long, I thought they would have been doing this surreptitiously since like a decade ago, or are they not?..... finding an igboman that will betray his tribe for a few bucks should be easy

You will be shocked to realize that while you people are busy trying to take over yorubaland, Fulanis have managed to buy up what little good land you have and leave you to fight over the remaining gully erosion ravaged enclave

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RandomFellow: 4:52am On May 05
Ewedegubbler:
if they are buying the lands then its a good one.. they can do whatever they want on their property.

Unfortunately, they don't play by the rules. Imagine 30 of them come to a community...

1 man, 4 wives. 40 children (30 men, at lest 200-300 wives; 2,000-5,000 children). Only one generation!!!

Next Generation... 200men, 2,000-4,000 wives; 20k - 50k children!


Are there any communities in the East or West that procreate like this? What happens after 5 generations? Can the indigenes deny these children born here their own rights as indigenes? Can you stop them from voting? It's only a matter of time, and they are the real indigenes. In Afikpo, it's common to hear people speaking Hausa; I mean, some of these people bear names like Ada, Chidi, etc! They're actually Hausa/Fulani; same with Ilorin. Adesina, Bukola... And they are fulanis!
RandomFellow: 4:56am On May 05
olyrayy:


You can replace caliphate with Igbo in this sentence and it would still be talking about the same thing.

All Nigerians are free to live and vote in any part of the country. All Nigerians are indigenes of Nigeria.

Yeah... Except not all Nigerians are fighting a covert war. My problem here is the jihad. Remove it, and I want state of origin abolished! Go live wherever you want!
kevwemike: 5:21am On May 05
yarimo:
But it's not a security threat for a Easterner to buy land in the northern part of the country? Very unfortunate intolerant people mteeeew
look at U, so Wen the East bought land from U, they came with AK-47 to kill Ur people and destroy Ur farm land? Pls always reasonable.
ribbit: 5:31am On May 05
RandomFellow:


If only they buy the lands without ulterior motives. It's actually a jihad, we all know! Unfortunately, you'll pretend like it's not. The plan of Uthman Danfodiyo is still very much alive.

Igbos buy lands in the North, and West... But they don't claim to be indigenes of those places. These fulanis are coming to become indigenes; it's the same plan as Ruga, but with different fundings
and what ulterior motive than to ranch for the herdemen? You are complaining that they are grazing people's land, but now that they want to buy the land, you are still complaining..

Igbos literally want eliminate indengenship and they meddle heavily on south west politics. What ulterior motive is worse than that?

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Bittersweetnig(m): 5:34am On May 05
Christistruth02:




Some imported dangerous fake drugs that did much damage to the unsuspecting customers and consumers
you are just very unfortunate.
albahafs: 5:44am On May 05
You won't allow them stay Free!
You won't allow them stay on lease!
You won't allow them buy and stay!
You won't allow government to buy and give them!
But you are all over AREWA ( Abuja, Kano, Kaduna etc) developing lands in their part of the country.
What kind of a useless and irresponsible tribe are you people?

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Reference(m): 5:50am On May 05
Nothing wrong if deals were done above board and papers are intact. That is best practice. However on the issue of people moving around with arms, that is another matter. Because that is illegal and that is where structure lets us down.

I was watching an episode of Lonestar on tv last night about the activities of law enforcement in Texas concerning everything from wildlife protection to petty crimes.

You can clearly see a State that is on top of the security of it's lands, it's natural resources and it's people.

Citations were given for illegal tresing, unauthorized fishing (you need a license to fish on state land) and uned vehicles.

Why can't we be so organized at local government and state levels by a simple act of law to establish state and local government police then these herders can be protected by law (so they don't have to bear illegal arms) and by the same law their activities checked so they cannot continue taking laws into their own hands.

It is a simple act of addressing these pressing, intractable issues by structure.

The density of cattle in Texas is approximately 17.5 heads per square kilometers while that of Nigeria is approximately 22.5 heads of cattle per square kilometers.

Isn't it clear enough that we need a proper structure to take care of the needs of agriculture, the land and the people.

May the Nigerian citizen wake up and step out of the dark age by thinking through challenges to clear and progressive solutions.
ppogba: 5:58am On May 05
The ruler should not lament. After all, Kalu from his state has sponsored a state of origin bill.

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Lanretoye(m): 6:00am On May 05
zedegit:


Why una dey talk like say una comot from inside bottle? Una no dey hear how fulani dey slaughter una Papa and mama for bush?

All over Plateau, Kaduna, Katsina, Ogun, Benue etc too numerous.

I know say politics suppose get level but una don leave politics dey enter heartless
you must sell lands,you make people cry by duping them and selling fake products to them too where you live,you beat and bully your hosts where you recide too,live in apartments without paying rent and all sorts too so boko haram and herdsmen are your nemesis and karma,deal with them.you are more heartless

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Chibuezem(m): 6:06am On May 05
RandomFellow:
Its not supposed to be an issue; but knowing that the Caliphate want the whole of Southern Nigeria to become a conquered territory, this calls for concern.

Their plan is simple- acquire massive lands legally; bring their people in tiny bits, and let them marry and reproduce; overpopulate the acquired lands by massive births; covertly begin to ask for basic rights like schools, hospitals, markets, rights to vote, etc; become major political players in the said area where they have taken root, like deciding who becomes the chairman of a local government chairman or even governor. Strike a deal with a desperate politician to advance their course; get an opportunity to put their person in power... Take over the state and never relinquish their acquired power... Continue till their holy book is dipped in the Atlantic Ocean!

Read about Afikpo North in Ebonyi state (focus on Mgbom, Uwanna), and Ilorin in Kwara state.
why do I feel that you are right
Reference(m): 6:14am On May 05
On reading a number of responses I can see there is another angle to this, a social angle and the issues about land and ownership rights and the tasking issue of indigenization.

These are political issues for which governments formed. These are issues we should be speaking about as the backbone of our democracy, that is the restructuring of the country to ensure the concerns of all citizens are addressed.

But what is the basis of our elections..... money. The people ignore what really matters and trade their franchise for a morsel whereas it is an opportunity to get governments attention to building proper structures to guarantee social justice.

And there are many examples around the world to address all manner of issues including in Nigeria. Some examples.

You can have electoral colleges to guarantee fair representation to nullify the effect of a domineering demographic just like the US.

You can have state laws to control everything from business to personal health and wellbeing including population growth and permitted densities. In Nigeria some states in the north donot permit the sale of certain products and I have not heard of any challenge lodged with the courts.

So there is a lot local authorities can do under the influence of the voting public to address any concern. It is only a matter of awareness of how things work and testing the legal limits.
Whiteshield: 6:14am On May 05
RandomFellow:


Unfortunately, they don't play by the rules. Imagine 30 of them come to a community...

1 man, 4 wives. 40 children (30 men, at lest 200-300 wives; 2,000-5,000 children). Only one generation!!!

Next Generation... 200men, 2,000-4,000 wives; 20k - 50k children!


Are there any communities in the East or West that procreate like this? What happens after 5 generations? Can the indigenes deny these children born here their own rights as indigenes? Can you stop them from voting? It's only a matter of time, and they are the real indigenes!

In 10 years, they will be regarded as indigenes of Igboland. That's what Ben Kalu wants.

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agulion: 6:17am On May 05
Difrent:


But you proudly buy lands from other tribes and is even threatening Yorubas with domination since they are so poor , you will outprice the indigenes and soon will displace the yorubas in their cities
Now you have the Fulanis planning exactly the same thing you plan against the yourbas against you.....you begin to cry.
What took those Fulani elites so long, I thought they would have been doing this surreptitiously since like a decade ago, or are they not?..... finding an igboman that will betray his tribe for a few bucks should be easy

You will be shocked to realize that while you people are busy trying to take over yorubaland, Fulanis have managed to buy up what little good land you have and leave you to fight over the remaining gully erosion ravaged enclave
. Which of the Yorubas are you? You know we have two types of Yorubas, so tell me the one you are cos I have different approach to the two different Yorubas
RandomFellow: 6:18am On May 05
Whiteshield:


In 10 years, they will be regarded as indigenes of Igboland. That's what Ben Kalu wants.

Maybe not 10 years; maybe 50 years when the people that sold them the lands are dead and gone, and their great grand kids are born... Then they are faced with effects of selfish decisions by their great grand parents! Very myopic elders

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