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And by the way, Love800, do you believe that Jesus is Angel Michael and at the same time Abaddon, a fallen angel that even Satanists work with? This is what JWS believe. Do you agree with this?

Love800:
To the bolded, you are going to ask a scientist!

I should ask a scientist about your assertions 😁😁

Exactly.

Truthseeker10:

I should ask a scientist about your assertions 😁😁

Courz:


What publication is this? What a confused Religion! Love800, take note of this. When you JW, be ready to accept Errors upon Errors as Doctrines that will insult your intelligence. If you value your intelligence or hate people insulting your intelligence, Do Not JW.

Here you are....

8:25​—Who is “the Prince of princes”? The Hebrew word sar, translated “prince,” basically means “chief,” or “head one.” The title “Prince of princes” applies only to Jehovah God​—the Chief of all angelic princes, including “Michael, one of the foremost princes.”​—Daniel 10:13.

Since from the explanation Jehovah too is a prince and a chief of princes, Jehovah is equally an Archangel

In fact their interpretation of 1 Thessalonians 4:16 can be made to read Jesus came with the voice of Prince of princes = Only Jehovah

achorladey:


Here you are....

8:25​—Who is “the Prince of princes”? The Hebrew word sar, translated “prince,” basically means “chief,” or “head one.” The title “Prince of princes” applies only to Jehovah God​—the Chief of all angelic princes, including “Michael, one of the foremost princes.”​—Daniel 10:13.

Since from the explanation Jehovah too is a prince and a chief of princes, Jehovah is equally an Archangel

In fact their interpretation of 1 Thessalonians 4:16 can be made to read Jesus came with the voice of Prince of princes = Only Jehovah

Oh my Goodness. This is ridiculous! So, Jehovah is Prince of Princes? A Chief Prince is an Angel o. An Archangel. A whole Almighty God, The Most High, Ancient of days, is reduced to an Archangel? God forbid bad thing. If Jesus himself is the King of Kings having authority of heaven and Earth, how will you place God himself? Maybe they are not referring to Almighty God but to a different god. They revealed the god they worshipped in that publication. Their god is a Chief Prince not Almighty God. Their god Is an Angel. Love800, are you ready for this level of Confusion made up of conflicting doctrines that contradict themselves?

TenQ:

That was why he couldn't respond.

If Michael the Arch Angel was given his Life by Jehovah as the first creation, how can he be the LIFE?

They will say others are false Christians and those criteria they say makes others false Christians is the very same thing they feed on as spiritual food and as truth in their kingdom halls.

When you point it out they take cover.

Courz:


Oh my Goodness. This is ridiculous! So, Jehovah is Prince of Princes? A Chief Prince is an Angel o. An Archangel. A whole Almighty God, The Most High, Ancient of days, is reduced to an Archangel? God forbid bad thing. If Jesus himself is the King of Kings having authority of heaven and Earth, how will you place God himself? Maybe they are not referring to Almighty God but to a different god. They revealed the god they worshipped in that publication. Their god is a Chief Prince not Almighty God. Their god Is an Angel. Love800, are you ready for this level of Confusion made up of conflicting doctrines that contradict themselves?

That's why when they come out with their concocted Bible knowledge they don't want references from their religious publications. They know so many things they believe are in line with what other Christian denominations believe but to separate themselves from others they have to just denigrate or devalue them in order to keep recruiting to do their bidding

achorladey:


That's why when they come out with their concocted Bible knowledge they don't want references from their religious publications. They know so many things they believe are in line with what other Christian denominations believe but to separate themselves from others they have to just denigrate or devalue them in order to keep recruiting to do their bidding

I will find this publication and make screenshots. Which of the JWs here did you show this publication to and what did they say? The JWs I know here will run away once you show them this.

Courz:


I will find this publication and make screenshots. Which of the JWs here did you show this publication to and what did they say? The JWs I know here will run away once you show them this.

The bold is their usual mode of operation when caught in their lies and manipulations.

achorladey:


They will say others are false Christians and those criteria they say makes others false Christians is the very same thing they feed on as spiritual food and as truth in their kingdom halls.

When you point it out they take cover.

To me,
JWs averagely are peaceful Muslims without the Mohammed!

TenQ:

To me,
JWs averagely are peaceful Muslims without the Mohammed!

Loooool!

You know despite how they love to go against other Christian denomination they hardly go hard on the Islamic religion, more like they are sympathetic to their belief. Most time their religious publications tend to seek areas where the Muslims align with christian beliefs than go against them.

Emusan:

If you've answered I won't be asking you again. Does this ruling extend to earth or not?
This is the question you're turning a blind eyes
Okay.
It's not NOW. It means you don't understand the scripture you're quoting.
Look at the @color-red it says "AS IT IS" if English comprehension isn't your problem you should know that "The Will of God" already in place in heaven as Jesus was talking, if not Jesus won't use such words.
Meaning of the phrase "As it is":
1. "As it is" (or "as is" )
Present Condition:
This phrase refers to something in its current state or condition.
Example: "Leave the car as it is." (meaning don't fix it or modify it).

Please when did Michael send Satan and his demons out of heaven, before or after Jesus' ministry?

TenQ:

Orangutans could chestbeat all they want, the important thing if they claim to be Born Again
1. Are they of the Truth
2. Are they of Christ Jesus and not of any Angel
3. Are they consistent in TRUE knowledge of God
4. Are they consistent in Love to God and to man
5. Are they consistent to Serving God with all
6. Are they consistent with preaching the Gospel to All
7. Are they consistent with a life of Purity consistent

Unfortunately , here you are feigning a form of godliness but denying the power thereof.

2Tim 3:5:
"Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away."


Jesus warned us of your kind
Mat 13:25-26:
"But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also."


Mat 7:15-19:
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. You shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree brings forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that brings not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire."

So,
Feigning righteousness doesn't make you known of Christ.

Have a nice day!

So those three posts are chest beating by Jehovah's Witnesses shey?

APOPTOSIS:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and s.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

Love800:
I would love to be a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!

Ọmọ repent and stop hating the truth whom God has blessed no man can curse! Isaiah 5:20

TenQ:

To me,
JWs averagely are peaceful Muslims without the Mohammed!

Wow!
Jehovah's Witnesses are peaceful believers!

Maximus692:
Please when did Michael send Satan and his demons out of heaven, before or after Jesus' ministry?

Shifting here and there won't solve your problem.

You're the one who quoted Matt 6:9-10

Which is boldly written as "Pray like this: Our Father in heaven, may your name be kept holy. May your Kingdom come soon. May your will be done on earth, as it is in heaven. - Matt 6:9-10

According to this scripture has the WILL OF GOD BE DONE IN HEAVEN?

A good student of English knows the answer is YES!

Jesus has come and began to rule this negates your earlier statement of no disciples of Jesus Christ will die once Jesus comes and began to rule. This is part of what OP was saying.

Maximus692:

Wow!
Jehovah's Witnesses are peaceful believers!

Why do you tell lies about what I didn't say?
Its the same spirit of Taqqiya as Muslims!

To Maximus
Muslim=Believer

SMH!

Maximus692:


So those three posts are chest beating by Jehovah's Witnesses shey?







Ọmọ repent and stop hating the truth whom God has blessed no man can curse! Isaiah 5:20

You are not even close to my challenge to anyone who is of Christ Jesus
Because
Your fruit has shown that you are the Wolves in Sheep Skin
The Tare within the Wheat
And the Goats amongst the Sheep!



Sorry!

achorladey:


Loooool!

You know despite how they love to go against other Christian denomination they hardly go hard on the Islamic religion, more like they are sympathetic to their belief. Most time their religious publications tend to seek areas where the Muslims align with christian beliefs than go against them.

They are the same as far as I am concerned.
Both are willing to Bend their Scripture to align with the consensus of their Scholars (for Muslims) or the consensus of their Governing Body (for JWs)

Both are willing to Ignore the Truth if it doesn't align with their consensus
Bot are Willing to tell lies to their flawed consensus.
Both Reject the Nature of Christ and the Holy Spirit.

Only difference,
Muslims incorporate violence
JW are less violent

Emusan:

Shifting here and there won't solve your problem. You're the one who quoted Matt 6:9-10
Which is boldly written as "Pray like this: Our Father in heaven, may your name be kept holy. May your Kingdom come soon. May your will be done on earth, as it is in heaven. - Matt 6:9-10
According to this scripture has the WILL OF GOD BE DONE IN HEAVEN?
A good student of English knows the answer is YES! Jesus has come and began to rule this negates your earlier statement of no disciples of Jesus Christ will die once Jesus comes and began to rule. This is part of what OP was saying.

If you answer this question it will solve the puzzle:

Maximus692:

Please when did Michael send Satan and his demons out of heaven, before or after Jesus' ministry?

So answer the question!

TenQ:

Why do you tell lies about what I didn't say?
Its the same spirit of Taqqiya as Muslims!
To Maximus
Muslim=Believer
SMH!

Ọmọ the word "Muslims" means Believers.
So Jehovah's Witnesses are PEACEFUL believers!

TenQ:

You are not even close to my challenge to anyone who is of Christ Jesus
Because
Your fruit has shown that you are the Wolves in Sheep Skin
The Tare within the Wheat
And the Goats amongst the Sheep!

Sorry!

Wolves, Tare, Goats yet three different persons looked critically at this group and said:

APOPTOSIS:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and s.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

Love800:
I would love to be a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!

Thank God it's all happening life on this forum!

TenQ:

Only difference,
Muslims incorporate violence
JW are less violent

Beg God to forgive you and repent, ọmọ repent before it's too late.

"Did you say JWs are less violent" shey?

Well this is what others have observed:

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

Maximus692:


Beg God to forgive you and repent, ọmọ repent before it's too late.

"Did you say JWs are less violent" shey?

Well this is what others have observed:

Are you more violent than Muslims?
Yes or No!?

Maximus692:


Wolves, Tare, Goats yet three different persons looked critically at this group and said:







Thank God it's all happening life on this forum!

You fit all like a glove!
Wolves, Tare, Goats = JWs

TenQ:

Are you more violent than Muslims? Yes or No!?

Ask the whole world that question and get the reward of hypocrisy let everyone know who you are on the inside! Luke 6:45

TenQ:

You fit all like a glove!
Wolves, Tare, Goats = JWs

Walahi talahi you've proved what you are today.
Thanks for coming out plainly!

Maximus692:

Ọmọ the word "Muslims" means Believers.
So Jehovah's Witnesses are PEACEFUL believers!

Shame on you!
And you call yourself a former Muslim?
Just as you swallowed Taqqiya you are regurgitating it out to people who you think are less informed.

Muslim does not mean Believers sir. I wonder where you learnt that.

The word Islam literally means “surrender” and Muslims are those who practice Islam.

Thus, Muslims are people who have Surrendered and (not even submission) to the will of Allah.





So you see why even you acknowledge that you JWs are Muslims!
LOL!!

Quran 5:111
"Bear witness that we have surrendered (unto Thee), we are Muslims."

Maximus692:

Ask the whole world that question and get the reward of hypocrisy let everyone know who you are on the inside! Luke 6:45

Can't you answer simple question?

Maximus692:

Walahi talahi you've proved what you are today.
Thanks for coming out plainly!

Of course, by their fruit yesterday shall know them

Let me teach you what Jesus taught us about swearing

Mat 5:34-37:
"But I say to you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shall you swear by your head, because you can not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yes, yes; No, no: for whatever is more than these comes of evil."


But you come to me swearing by the name of your God , Allah!?

FYI:
"Walahi talahi" mean "By Allah, by Allah" or "I swear by Allah"

You have just expressed the kind of fruit the tree of your life can bring forth!

Shame!

TenQ:

Shame on you!
And you call yourself a former Muslim?
Just as you swallowed Taqqiya you are regurgitating it out to people who you think are less informed. Muslim does not mean Believers sir. I wonder where you learnt that. The word Islam literally means “surrender” and Muslims are those who practice Islam. Thus, Muslims are people who have Surrendered and (not even submission) to the will of Allah. So you see why even you acknowledge that you JWs are Muslims! LOL!!
Quran 5:111
"Bear witness that we have surrendered (unto Thee), we are Muslims."

You don't even understand the meaning of that word "BELIEVER"

Well the word believe means trust and to trust in someone connotes submitting to what such a person says.

For your information all the faithful ones in the Bible SUBMITTED or SURRENDER to the will of God!

TenQ:

Can't you answer simple question?

Which country on this planet have you heard that there is war, terror or violence and it is said that Jehovah's Witnesses are behind it?

TenQ:

Of course, by their fruit yesterday shall know them
Let me teach you what Jesus taught us about swearing
Mat 5:34-37:
"But I say to you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shall you swear by your head, because you can not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yes, yes; No, no: for whatever is more than these comes of evil."
But you come to me swearing by the name of your God , Allah!?
FYI:
"Walahi talahi" mean "By Allah, by Allah" or "I swear by Allah"
You have just expressed the kind of fruit the tree of your life can bring forth!
Shame!

Walahi talahi you deserve an award as a Comedian!