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AndroBlaze: 9:07pm On May 02
Dam5reey1:


Battery capacity and Inverter capacity has nothing to do with size, he can even do No , 4, 5, 6 8, 16 if he wish.
What if Grid is available, or his load is only 300w average?
Yeah, he could have oversized his power bank to ensure that even if grid is not available for a day or 2, he is ok.

17kwh is what a bachelor without an AC could use from the grid in a week!

Though the size of the inverter indicates he has load shaaa
Ahyjo: 9:44pm On May 02
AndroBlaze:

Yeah, he could have oversized his power bank to ensure that even if grid is not available for a day or 2, he is ok.

17kwh is what a bachelor without an AC could use from the grid in a week!

Though the size of the inverter indicates he has load shaaa
I no too get load like that but e dey hard to see grid in 40 - 43 degrees weather. I know I’ll not discharge it much and I’m starting with a 5kw array for now and we have on average 7hrs blazing sunlight. I live in one of the driest and hottest parts of this country (sokoto).

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Dam5reey1(m): 10:23pm On May 02
AndroBlaze:

Yeah, he could have oversized his power bank to ensure that even if grid is not available for a day or 2, he is ok.

17kwh is what a bachelor without an AC could use from the grid in a week!

Though the size of the inverter indicates he has load shaaa

Assumptions Sha.

We have installed.. 15kwh 6kw in many varieties.. so This configuration does not suggest he needs 6kw s
dollarnaira: 10:36pm On May 02
Ahyjo:
I no too get load like that but e dey hard to see grid in 40 - 43 degrees weather. I know I’ll not discharge it much and I’m starting with a 5kw array for now and we have on average 7hrs blazing sunlight. I live in one of the driest and hottest parts of this country (sokoto).

You guys harmattan is very scary, cold and super hot within 24hrs shocked. Enjoy your investment.
bassdow: 10:45pm On May 02
adrusa:
It is true that HDDs have higher data recovery probability than SSD. However, that is where all the advantage ends. SDDs are faster and have smaller failure rates than HDD. And by the way, a good computer person will tell that if you need to recover data from a failed HDD or SSD, then you are not supposed to stand near any serious data in the first place. A serious computer person will know the rules about data backup. If your data is important to you, you should have multiple backups, onsite and at lest in one offsite location.

Data recovery is now more about forensic or accident investigations. Bottom line: SSDs are far superior to HDD, just like Lithium is far superior to Lead Acid. And like someone pointed out to you, many of us on Team Lithium were once on Lead Acid. I for instance, started my solar journey with Trailer Batteries about 1998/9 before graduating to GEL/AGM and then Tubular before finally ing Lithium train. Nothing will take me back to Lead Acid.


SSDs are good, they are much faster than all the previous storage solutions before them. That we agree.

Doesn't mean SSDs don't have their Negative sides as well. My issue is focusing on just the Positive sides and trying to convince others while stating the NEGATIVE side of the other ones.

1. SSDs are so much faster than all other storage solutions before it BUT not everyOne needs such speed compared to the steep cost per GigaByte

2. SSDs are very EXPENSIVE - Compare price of 125GB SSD to a 500GB Hard Disk. Reason why a lot of people try to use both - SSD for boot sector, and probably few other places they [believe] require speed, Hard Disk for the rest.

3. SSDs got no Moving part BUT should it go bad, chances of repair or recovery is next to none. Just like Tubular battery / Lead Acid battery wey you still fit do some small work, and e go wake up serve you fully or just small. At least e respond BUT SSD go just dey look you like a Body lying in state.

See eh, we all know what we doing, make the argument continue, na Nairaland storage go dey stomach am.

At end of the day, there's a place for everything.
For a Hosting server, SSDs makes lots of sense,
For a storage server, Hard Disks makes better sense especially from a price point,
For long time arching purposes, even a Hard Disk could be too expensive hence we go for tapeDrives,
For your everyday [casual] computer , even for a business, SSDs are over kill BUT if cost ain't an issue, and don't mind, who cares;
BUT
don't make people believe all other alternatives are rubbish.

Graphic designers, high end Gamers, Video editors, Animators, and the likes mostly considers GPU while shopping, but what's a coder, who ain't doing Machine learning, 3D graphics / rendering, Game development, or even data visualization got to worry about GPUs. It even would become more of an issue, than a blessing.

Same with batteries, and other things.

BUT when all you got in your shop is a non-RechargeAble Lead Acid battery, and one comes looking to buy a deep cycle battery, or even a Lithium battery, rather than tell them you don't have it, you start trying to CONFUSE them into buying what you got.


I go leave una alone for this matter, but would once in a while respond if I get the time. Make we dey f-o-o-l ourSelves, while those wey dey make the actual money continues doing their thing.

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bassdow: 10:50pm On May 02
Mavor:
Bro thank you for this ooo!! I will never touch a lithium-ion battery. Fire hazard and all considering I live alone and I am mostly outdoors during the week cos of work. I will have to avoid this product then. Thank you so much!
The fire hazard isn't a regular thing and mostly happens if things ain't in order BUT yea, no one likes to stay with a bomb in form of a battery. But then, you got liFePo
bassdow: 10:53pm On May 02
clevermugu:
u must be on a long thing , if u believe this is real 12v 200ah cheesy. from the shape that box, e no 12v 100ah . people should be very careful what they buy ... 95% of all lithium battery in Nigerian market now are not real capacity.
if you too talk, dem go plenty attack you.

There are cliques and mafias every where. A few would gather and control a circle, and anyOne who speaks against their interest would be seen as being wrong. wetin concern me. If you slack, you loose

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bassdow: 10:56pm On May 02
Dam5reey1:



Where is your capacity testing data..?


Would you ask same or similar from someOne who says "Nigerian Government are waste products, or that Nigerian economy has been steadily declining ?"
bassdow: 10:57pm On May 02
clevermugu:
E.g, like the Cworth batteries u have been marketing here kiss
why you this wicked Sir ?
bassdow: 10:59pm On May 02
ola12:
What's the most reliable/best 12v 1kva inverter brand to go for?
I was thinking of felicity 1kva 12v but haven't found it anywhere in Nigeria
if your load ain't energy demanding, rather than spend much on a 1Kva inverter, kukuma buy a Used UPS, and use it as inverter. Required modification is very simple
numericalguy(m): 11:00pm On May 02
Good evening gurus in the house,

I am intending to buy LiFePO4 inverter battery but I have seen two types and I am confused on their differences, their advantages and disadvantages over each other

TYPE A LiFePO4 inverter battery
looks rather simple with no obvious BMS and no digital display


TYPE B LiFePO4 inverter battery
Looks complex and seems to have better design even with digital display


How can both be LiFePO4 inverter battery yet with obvious physical differences


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Dam5reey1
Omotoda
brightk
AndroBlaze
bassdow
Nteogwuija
clevermugu
OgogoroFreak

bassdow: 11:09pm On May 02
Nteogwuija:
Good day, bosses. So it's 12PM peak time. The sun is high, the sky is bright, yet my 1050w pv is only producing 100w. It's something I've noticed in recent weeks. When it was installed initially, I'd get around 500w at peak hours.

So now I've resolved to relocating the stand to an open space where the storey building wouldn't block the sunlight.

The constraint now is that I'd need at least 30yrds of 4mm² to add to my current setup. That'd cost me about 105,000 naira.

I want to know if there are cheaper alternatives that I can use inplace of the coated DC wires.

Thanks for your responses in advance.
First things first, have you ensured it's not Dust that's covering surface of the Solar s ?

Also, the longer the distance between the Solar s and the battery , the more looses you incur due to wastes.

Another is to ensure all wires are correctly tightened and none is loose.

Another is to ensure all the Solar s are in good condition.

Except we know these things, really can't easily tell if its shade or not and you know what, if SHADing ain't the issue, the extra money and stress would all be a waste.

You didn't state capacity of the individual solar s BUT 1,050w is should be 3 pcs or less.

Not sure it's gonna worth the steep costs of quality copper cables.

You didn't even state if it's a 12volts or 24volts or 36volts or 48volts system as those determines the thickness of the cable also.

See eh, if you must buy a cable, just buy the cable I have often advocated for. Even the most expensive one is much cheaper than a slim copper wire.

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bassdow: 11:10pm On May 02
Ahyjo:
Just received a 17kwh battery from Valto and the Growatt 6kva ES plus from Sygnite. Your contributions got me here. Thank you.
Abeg try help us attach prices so that we go dey know how far.

Also help us convert that 17kwh to wetin layMan like Me go understand e.g 12v 150Ah or 24v 400AH

Make some people no go dey advocate without knowing price differences.
bassdow: 11:15pm On May 02
ola12:


Thanks. I'll rather go for a 1kva as I just need something strictly on a budget which'll do the job of supplementing my grid/replace it on off nepa days for powering my laptop+fan.
I was going for this one specifically but no felicity dealer has it in stock, if someone knows why or has used it with reviews please let me know.

If there're other really trusted 1kva 12v hybrid inverters I can get instead I'll appreciate the information
for those, a tokunbo UPS would do.

Should you decide to go a step further, if you got a rechargeAble Fan, and your laptop charger does not use center Pin (actually doesn't matter but if it does have center pin, and you don't have the knowledge, you would need an electrician to help you), you don't even need anything as it could run directly from your charge controller (the charge controller helps keep the current clean of noise). If your Tv come be those ones wey dey use Charger (no be everyOne get knowledge to make modifications), that becomes another PLUS
bassdow: 11:22pm On May 02
AndroBlaze:


Kindly educate us on what you are seeing in "shapes" from tiny digital images that makes you say with confidence that they are lying even without reviewing more important specs like weight or even dimensions.

Anyway till then, we thankfully have gurus actually reviewing these "shapes" and giving us proper findings and not hearsay .



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZm4fa_GjCM?si=2o6ABqB0-iFmvuPF


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohJjSSqFV6E?si=M8e1Ok4RP0oMlEkl


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0_YpKKdst8?si=1XPic0G3R6fAqM8Q
the Guy made a general statement which I would agree with him to a large extent if we are to be honest with ourSelves BUT are we ever really honest with ourselves ?

Also, LiFePo is much lighter than a standard Lithium battery. Also the form factor differs, hopefully the guy considered that also BUT either way, Me agree with am to a large extent.

Let's pretend to ignore that online Reviews can't be manipulated
bassdow: 11:29pm On May 02
AndroBlaze:

Yeah, he could have oversized his power bank to ensure that even if grid is not available for a day or 2, he is ok.

17kwh is what a bachelor without an AC could use from the grid in a week!

Though the size of the inverter indicates he has load shaaa
Size of inverter can't always tell so Ooo. I fit buy Lister generator, even when a small Tiger Generator could comfortably handle my load.

Personally, I am beginning to see investing in batteries to be a waste of money - I rather really really overSize my Solar s, then have battery to be able to power my critical loads.
With a properly overSized Solar array, even while it's rainy, e go still dey try manage pull somethings. Just ensure you using a good MPPT charge controller.

OverTime, the investment on batteries don't really get recovered, yet would require to be changed after a while, don't care if it's 10-years or more
bassdow: 11:33pm On May 02
numericalguy:
Good evening gurus in the house,

I am intending to buy LiFePO4 inverter battery but I have seen two types and I am confused on their differences, their advantages and disadvantages over each other

TYPE A LiFePO4 inverter battery
looks rather simple with no obvious BMS and no digital display


TYPE B LiFePO4 inverter battery
Looks complex and seems to have better design even with digital display


How can both be LiFePO4 inverter battery yet with obvious physical differences


cc:
Dam5reey1
Omotoda
brightk
AndroBlaze
bassdow
Nteogwuija
clevermugu
OgogoroFreak
Wait Ooo, so as you tag us finish, make we use our data do the convincing, then you take the money go give people wey no follow invest See eh, as you manage tag Dam5reey1 , also tag that Valto guy and all others wey get advert to make. Include their alternate s if you sabi am.
AndroBlaze: 1:39am On May 03
numericalguy:
Good evening gurus in the house,

I am intending to buy LiFePO4 inverter battery but I have seen two types and I am confused on their differences, their advantages and disadvantages over each other

TYPE A LiFePO4 inverter battery
looks rather simple with no obvious BMS and no digital display


TYPE B LiFePO4 inverter battery
Looks complex and seems to have better design even with digital display


How can both be LiFePO4 inverter battery yet with obvious physical differences


cc:
Dam5reey1
Omotoda
brightk
AndroBlaze
bassdow
Nteogwuija
clevermugu
OgogoroFreak

Well the quick answer to this is type A and type B are designed to serve different markets, with type B clearly targeting a more market.

Also the pic of type A clearly shows a scancode with the words smart BMS, so I wonder why you would assume no BMS? A quick google lens scan confirms a Bluetooth BMS so no need for display when you have this.

Not used the battery before so can't give any recommendations, but personally I prefer having the basics compared to "sophistication", so I'd be eyeing type A over Type B, and the cost difference will only help my decision.

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AndroBlaze: 1:55am On May 03
Ahyjo:
I no too get load like that but e dey hard to see grid in 40 - 43 degrees weather. I know I’ll not discharge it much and I’m starting with a 5kw array for now and we have on average 7hrs blazing sunlight. I live in one of the driest and hottest parts of this country (sokoto).

Well with the way Nigeria is going it makes sense to go future proof sha. The bigger the inverter though, the more likely the idle and low draw is higher, so if one really wants to maximise their battery it makes sense to go for smaller inverters (3.5kw if no AC).

But big inverters do prove to be more power efficient carrying bigger loads and usually can charge the batteries faster and take more s......so it's all good.
oaice: 3:39am On May 03
Selling used solar setup. Selling as a complete set.
Dm me on whatsapp if interested. 091324fourtwosixfivethree.
still available

obinna37(m): 4:26am On May 03
Flash sale

EAsun power puresinwave 4000w inverter continues power is 2500w) it can power your fridge or freezer and others

Owner is upgrading

Price #120k fix

08034034206

Nteogwuija(m): 5:33am On May 03
bassdow:
First things first, have you ensured it's not Dust that's covering surface of the Solar s ?

Also, the longer the distance between the Solar s and the battery , the more looses you incur due to wastes.

Another is to ensure all wires are correctly tightened and none is loose.

Another is to ensure all the Solar s are in good condition.

Except we know these things, really can't easily tell if its shade or not and you know what, if SHADing ain't the issue, the extra money and stress would all be a waste.

You didn't state capacity of the individual solar s BUT 1,050w is should be 3 pcs or less.

Not sure it's gonna worth the steep costs of quality copper cables.

You didn't even state if it's a 12volts or 24volts or 36volts or 48volts system as those determines the thickness of the cable also.

See eh, if you must buy a cable, just buy the cable I have often advocated for. Even the most expensive one is much cheaper than a slim copper wire.

Thanks for responding. First, it's a 12v system. The array is 350w(x3).

Secondly, I'd assume the s are still in good condition cuz I still get around 73 volt from a possible 77.1 volt at times.

Also, it's a 2 storey building and the landlord doesn't like the idea of me having the s on the roof, so I had to make a stand and mounted it beside the house.

When I first installed it, the location it was mounted would get sunlight until it was 2PM. And I do get around 500w during those peak periods.

But few weeks ago I started observing that once it's 12PM, these days it's even worse - 11PM, the sun moves directly above the building, and then the building shades the sun away from the s.

And then the PV's production drops to around 100w.
Gshems: 6:41am On May 03
Are you using an mppt charge controller or a glorified pwm?
Are you sure your ain't fake?

My guess is that you bought fake . s that are not up to it's rated capacity.

No matter how bad the shading can be you shouldnt be getting 100watts from a 1050 watts .. If you have the picture of your charge controller and your s, post them here.
Nteogwuija:


Thanks for responding. First, it's a 12v system. The array is 350w(x3).

Secondly, I'd assume the s are still in good condition cuz I still get around 73 volt from a possible 77.1 volt at times.

Also, it's a 2 storey building and the landlord doesn't like the idea of me having the s on the roof, so I had to make a stand and mounted it beside the house.

When I first installed it, the location it was mounted would get sunlight until it was 2PM. And I do get around 500w during those peak periods.

But few weeks ago I started observing that once it's 12PM, these days it's even worse - 11PM, the sun moves directly above the building, and then the building shades the sun away from the s.

And then the PV's production drops to around 100w.



numericalguy(m): 7:56am On May 03
AndroBlaze:


Well the quick answer to this is type A and type B are designed to serve different markets, with type B clearly targeting a more market.

Also the pic of type A clearly shows a scancode with the words smart BMS, so I wonder why you would assume no BMS? A quick google lens scan confirms a Bluetooth BMS so no need for display when you have this.

Not used the battery before so can't give any recommendations, but personally I prefer having the basics compared to "sophistication", so I'd be eyeing type A over Type B, and the cost difference will only help my decision.

I was asking for clarification so that I would not buy a wrong item. Money is not easy these days and I cannot afford to make a mistake. Also, I didn't assume no BMS, what I said is that type A battery didn't have an obvious BMS
numericalguy(m): 8:03am On May 03
bassdow:
Wait Ooo, so as you tag us finish, make we use our data do the convincing, then you take the money go give people wey no follow invest See eh, as you manage tag Dam5reey1 , also tag that Valto guy and all others wey get advert to make. Include their alternate s if you sabi am.


Hmmm... My brother, to save money for this economy no easy and I cannot afford to make a mistake and buy a wrong battery.

Sorry that I am asking all these questions. Some of the information people like us get here may make a big difference.

Please, I would like you to still answer the original question
AndroBlaze: 8:06am On May 03
numericalguy:


I was asking for clarification so that I would not buy a wrong item. Money is not easy these days and I cannot afford to make a mistake. Also, I didn't assume no BMS, what I said is that type A battery didn't have an obvious BMS

It's fine, but its extremely unusual to find any commercially available lithium battery that doesn't have a BMS. The issue is usually whether the BMS is communicable with or not (Smart) but this was discernable on the image.

It's always good to ask sha, and as you said and I fully agree with, money should not be wasted in the country we find ourselves in currently.

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brightk(m): 8:40am On May 03
numericalguy:



Hmmm... My brother, to save money for this economy no easy and I cannot afford to make a mistake and buy a wrong battery.

Sorry that I am asking all these questions. Some of the information people like us get here may make a big difference.

Please, I would like you to still answer the original question
u just de run from pillar to post.buy ur battery from trusted sellers here n take some chill pills

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Dam5reey1(m): 8:51am On May 03
This is our Testing Rig..

We also do Reviews. Not only Marketing and installations..
Coming soon..

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HeavenlyBang(m): 9:13am On May 03
Dam5reey1:
This is our Testing Rig..

We also do Reviews. Not only Marketing and installations..
Coming soon..

Good work with the capacity tests, man. You're probably the only in the country with this sort of content.

Men mount for that Haisic battery test.

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HeavenlyBang(m): 11:54am On May 03
Replacement battery for rechargeable fan. 14.8v 9.8aH li-ion.

Will provide updates if/when I receive it.

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mctfopt: 12:03pm On May 03
HeavenlyBang:
Replacement battery for rechargeable fan. 14.8v 9.8aH li-ion.

Will provide updates if/when I receive it.

Bought a lead acid 7ah last week for ₦16,500. This would've made a better alternative. Assuming paper specs match real world spec
HeavenlyBang(m): 12:19pm On May 03
mctfopt:


Bought a lead acid 7ah last week for ₦16,500. This would've made a better alternative. Assuming paper specs match real world spec

The last lead acid 12v 7ah I bought from Jumia didn't even last two months before it stopped powering the fan for up to an hour.

Decided to never buy a lead acid replacement again.

I don't expect this to actually be 9.8aH, but even at 6aH or so I'd be satisfied.

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