NewStats: 3,263,600 , 8,180,703 topics. Date: Friday, 06 June 2025 at 06:13 PM 1n5a48

Some clips from the NY times story
It's crazy that the El Salvadorian president was the one seeking assurances of who he was receiving.

Behind Trump’s Deal to Deport Venezuelans to El Salvador’s Most Feared Prison
New details deepen questions about the deportations, showing that El Salvador’s president pressed for assurances that the migrants were really of the Tren de Aragua gang.

As part of the agreement with the Trump istration, Mr. Bukele had agreed to house only what he called “convicted criminals” in the prison. However, many of the Venezuelan men labeled gang and terrorists by the U.S. government had not been tried in court.

Mr. Bukele wanted assurances from the United States that each of those locked up in the prison was of Tren de Aragua, the transnational gang with roots in Venezuela, according to people familiar with the situation and documents obtained by The New York Times.

The matter was urgent, a senior U.S. official warned his colleagues shortly after the deportations, kicking off a scramble to get the Salvadorans whatever evidence they could.

Mr. Bukele’s demands for more information about some of the deportees, which has not been previously reported, deepen questions about whether the Trump istration sufficiently assessed who it dispatched to a foreign prison.
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In Mr. Bukele, the White House had a willing ally, albeit one with specific demands, including a list of high-ranking MS-13 gang leaders he wanted sent back to El Salvador as part of the deal.

That stoked alarm among some U.S. law enforcement officials. The Justice Department has spent years building cases against MS-13 leaders for criminal activities in the United States, alleging that the gang has been protected by the Salvadoran government.

Some U.S. law enforcement officials were alarmed over the prospect of sending back leaders of MS-13 now facing charges for alleged crimes in the United States. Both the Treasury Department and Justice Department have accused Mr. Bukele’s government of making a secret pact with MS-13, offering its leaders behind bars special privileges to keep homicides down in El Salvador. Mr. Bukele has denied the claims.
“What Bukele is desperate for is to get these guys back in El Salvador before they talk in U.S. court,” said Douglas Farah, an El Salvador expert who between 2018 and 2022 collaborated with the Justice Department “Vulcan” task force, which targeted MS-13, as a U.S. military contractor.
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During an internal State Department briefing about issues related to Latin America, some employees were dismayed to hear that weeks earlier, American spy agencies had assessed that Tren de Aragua was not actually controlled by the Venezuelan government — which was the premise for invoking the Alien Enemies Act.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/30/us/politics/trump-deportations-venezuela-el-salvador.html

ObaIgwe1:


If Trump had talked about the images tattooed on Abrego , no one will have issue with him. The journalist, also said that there are tattoos on his body that might mean he is a member of MS13, but he is not an expert on those things, neither am I... But Trump kept dragging the journalist that MS13 is boldly tattooed on Abrego's knuckles; that my friend is the cause of his ridicule. Even you know that the MS13 on Abrego's knuckles is fake, is it not?

Why do you guys like deflecting from the main issue to another when you ran out of words to defend the main issue? Accept the fact that your lord Trump is dumb for being unable to recognize a badly made photoshop.

Nobody knows whether Garciahas tattoos are of ms-13. Assume Trump was wrong about tattoos.That means Garcia is not a gang member?

basilico:


Nobody knows whether Garciahas tattoos if ms-13. Assume Trump was wrong about tattoos.That means Garcia is not a gang member?

No. What it means is that he deserved due process. That’s literally the standard way to determine who does or doesn’t deserve life in prison. If nobody knows whether or not he’s a gang member, then the correct thing would be to certify that in all absolute certainty before sentencing him to life/death in prison.

That is the simple common sense argument you people have been jumping all over the place pretending not to understand.

If someone who we’re not exactly sure of what they did wrong can be sentenced in such a way, anyone can. Guilt or innocence doesn’t matter anymore. It’s that simple.

cococandy:

No. What it means is that he deserved due process. That’s literally the standard way to determine who does or doesn’t deserve life in prison. If nobody knows whether or not he’s a gang member, then the correct thing would be to certify that in all absolute certainty before sentencing him to life/death in prison.

That is the simple common sense argument you people have been jumping all over the place pretending not to understand.

If someone who we’re not exactly sure of what they did wrong can be sentenced in such a way, anyone can. Guilt or innocence doesn’t matter anymore. It’s that simple.

He already got it twice. He was ordered to be removed. What due process do you want again?

Trump’s proposal to remove federal income taxes for individuals earning less than $150,000/year would impact 93% of Americans aged 15 and over, who earn less than that in a year…

IF (and that’s a big if, considering that we are no longer hearing the “no tax on tips” proposal 😂) the Republican Congress eventually es this measure, and Trump signs it into law, just watch his poll numbers significantly rebound.

GloriousGbola:


dayo right now - greed is no longer good - austerity is now good

He will tell you to buy the dip..

Donald "2 Dolls" Trump. My new name for the US president. LoLz.

PDPGuy:
Trump’s proposal to remove federal income taxes for individuals earning less than $150,000/year would impact 93% of Americans aged 15 and over, who earn less than that in a year…

IF (and that’s a big if, considering that we are no longer hearing the “no tax on tips” proposal 😂) the Republican Congress eventually es this measure, and Trump signs it into law, just watch his poll numbers significantly rebound.

Even the ridiculous DOGE miscreants failed woefully while costing taxpayers $1.3bn. Then the ra.pist trump is overspending like crazy.
I don't think that will change how americans view this lawless and uncouth demagogue.

PDPGuy:
Trump’s proposal to remove federal income taxes for individuals earning less than $150,000/year would impact 93% of Americans aged 15 and over, who earn less than that in a year…

IF (and that’s a big if, considering that we are no longer hearing the “no tax on tips” proposal 😂) the Republican Congress eventually es this measure, and Trump signs it into law, just watch his poll numbers significantly rebound.

He just says whatever sounds good in the moment so he can buy himself one week of goodwill at a time.
When his horde of followers forget. He goes back to regularly scheduled programming.

No tax on tips
No tax on overtime
No tax on social security benefits
Man just keeps talking

cococandy:

No. What it means is that he deserved due process. That’s literally the standard way to determine who does or doesn’t deserve life in prison. If nobody knows whether or not he’s a gang member, then the correct thing would be to certify that in all absolute certainty before sentencing him to life/death in prison.

That is the simple common sense argument you people have been jumping all over the place pretending not to understand.

If someone who we’re not exactly sure of what they did wrong can be sentenced in such a way, anyone can. Guilt or innocence doesn’t matter anymore. It’s that simple.

Throw your biases out of the window while reading this article by Megyn Kelly.

https://www.megynkelly.com/2025/04/16/megyn-kelly-dismantles-corporate-media-narratives-in-kilmar-abrego-garcia-deportation-case/

If you would mind living in the same suburbs with him , be pretty sure a lot more Americans also would. Why you want others to live with terrorists but not you and your family?
Let's say it was a fuq up. So what ? He is an illegal, gang member , human trafficker,wife badger whose sole reason for being in America had been overtaken by events , his fellow gang are in custody and don't exist in the streets any more.
Due process. Joe Biden imported at least 7 million illegals without due process .Now they have to appear before an immigration judge who are 700 in continental America .To fully satisfy the due process is impossible. Who benefits by demanding everyone gets due process that can last several generations? The clamour for due process is a sledgehammer to beat Trump promise of deporting illegals .Simple as that.

I think judges there are just crazy A Tesla arsonist facing 20 years in jail has been ordered out of jail because he has depression and might not be able to get the hormonal treatment for his intended gender transition. Just crazy rulings.

cococandy:

He just says whatever sounds good in the moment so he can buy himself one week of goodwill at a time.
When his horde of followers forget. He goes back to regularly scheduled programming.

No tax on tips
No tax on overtime
No tax on social security benefits
Man just keeps talking

Which is worse ...
This
June 6, 2009: "If you like the plan you have, you can keep it. If you like the doctor you have, you can keep your doctor, too. The only change you’ll see are falling costs as our reforms take hold."

Or

I'll lower eggs and grocery prices day one, then takes 100 days to do exactly that.

I never have a problem with anyone here, who can occasionally comment honestly.

Addenda. From Grok.Obamacare resulted in lower health plans for at most 30% of the population.The other 70% who pay higher s to prop up the 30% have seen the following annualized increases in s.

2010: Initial s varied widely; many plans were not yet adjusted under ACA regulations.
2011: Average increase of 9.5%.
2012: Average increase of 3.8%.
2013: Average increase of 4.5%.
2014: Average increase of 2.4% (first year of ACA implementation).
2015: Average increase of 4.0%.
2016: Average increase of 3.4%.
2017: Average increase of 20% (due to market adjustments).
2018: Average increase of 29% (significant hikes in many states).
2019: Average increase of 4%.
2020: Average increase of 2.6%.
2021: Average increase of 3.5%.
2022: Average increase of 4.2%.
2023: Average increase of 7.0%.
2024: Median proposed increase of 6%.
2025: Projected increase of around 7%.


When I went to school we was taught that socialism is also where you tax the rich more to prop up the poor.

Those poor when they come to Nigeria brag about spending thousands of $$$ at Kempinski and getting free WIFI and Latte Coffee at MTN Prestige Lounge

Obama pledge to have healthcare costs go down "...as our reforms take hold" was not just a lie Its equivalent to crimes against humanity.

I thought they were only concerned about illegal immigration?
Those of you African immigrants that them, why not show your full and just do what they want you to do? That is to leave. Since you love them so much and you want to help the country save money, just pack your bags, get on a flight and go. No need waiting for the deportation to happen. You can save them the cost of deporting you and make America a little whiter.

ObaIgwe1:


If Trump had talked about the images tattooed on Abrego , no one will have issue with him. The journalist, also said that there are tattoos on his body that might mean he is a member of MS13, but he is not an expert on those things, neither am I... But Trump kept dragging the journalist that MS13 is boldly tattooed on Abrego's knuckles; that my friend is the cause of his ridicule. Even you know that the MS13 on Abrego's knuckles is fake, is it not?

Why do you guys like deflecting from the main issue to another when you ran out of words to defend the main issue? Accept the fact that your lord Trump is dumb for being unable to recognize a badly made photoshop.

So the hullabaloo is only about a mistake he wasn't aware of .
I assume you know a lot , are there ms-13 gang tattoos on his knuckles? Yes or No. Back it up with evidence.
If you don't know, forever hold your peace and be glad Kilmar Garcia baby mama wont be bashed any more, she raised over $200K from GoFundMe and Garcia is with his bossom buddies in El Salvador.
SCOTUS ordered Trump system to facilitate his return. In other words if El Salvador wants to release him from jail and Garcia needs to go back to America, Trump Force One will airlift him. ,😆😆

How we all were deceived by this man and the media. He was born in Kenya but the dad was never a black dad. Actions happening now and during his reign makes sense when we add the dots together.

descarado:
How we all were deceived by this man and the media. He was born in Kenya but the dad was never a black dad. Actions happening now and during his reign makes sense when we add the dots together.

I believe he was born in Hawaii. I am aware that his father had been given a scholarship to America during the cold war . He got the kid and went back to Kenya, became an economist, got fired and took to alcohol dying quite young
Obama was raised by his white mother who got married to an Indonesian , and lived there for awhile. Indonesia is Muslim majority his father was also raised as one , but he became an atheist.
Obama is the consummate appeaser , appealing to everyone . He however has deep sympathies for Muslims . His mentor was Saul Alinsky, a community chaos expert. He doesn't like Jews and I also think he detests xtians.

Have not seen much but Zelensky and Trump have agreed to a mineral deal. What Biden gave Zelensky is not repayable though . Was formalized during the Vatican meeting that Macron wanted in but was told ,No,nyet by Trump

Very soon the media will criticize the deal . EU should also start squealing against the mineral deal.
It sounds an investment deal . Big America companies like Blackrock bidding for $$ to rebuild Ukraine wont be very happy too.

GloriousGbola:


dayo right now - greed is no longer good - austerity is now good

Greed will always be good because it brings innovation. This is the time to rebuild US economy and bring more PROSPERITY

Ukraine signs a mineral deal in exchange for US investment and build back

All things that used to be given free in the past

Glad to have a president who puts American first

Christian girl with GPA 4.76 being denied chance to graduate because she refused a lbgtq indoctrination class.

https://www.worldtribune.com/maryland-student-cant-graduate-from-high-school-because-she-refused-lgbtq-class/

...The teacher guide also allegedly provides teachers with a list of “privileged” and “oppressed” people groups, in which it names “Christians” as privileged and “Non Abrahamic Religions/Spiritualities” as oppressed.....
She is in the privelleged group

China is now saying they are willing to work with Boeing again. Hand for touch them as the US can easily ground are large amount of their planes by refusing to sell them parts.

starts a crackdown on Chinese products especially from temu. They called on the EU to do more on Chinese products

bemeruca:
starts a crackdown on Chinese products especially from temu. They called on the EU to do more on Chinese products

What will the crackdown look like? How are they planning to crackdown? Through tariffs?
When will the French citizens start crying about cheap goods

raumdeuter:


What will the crackdown look like? How are they planning to crackdown? Through tariffs?
When will the French citizens start crying about cheap goods

There is a reason China steals IP and sell to the west their own altered products for cheap. They want to slowly kill the west.

is following Donald Trump’s lead to crack down on cheap outlets.

The EU plans to scrap its duty-free treatment of packages ordered online that are worth less than 150 euros ($171), but not until 2028, so 's proposal of handling fees is a transitory measure to help fund tighter customs screening.

National security advisor Mike Walt resigned

Straight to my vault.
Ivermectin as part of oncology treatment. Peer reviewed journal


More here

https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/new-study-ivermectin-shows-striking

Budaatum will obviously poke holes because Ivermectin had Drumph when Faucci discouraged it

cococandy, you might be interested.

bemeruca:
China is now saying they are willing to work with Boeing again. Hand for touch them as the US can easily ground are large amount of their planes by refusing to sell them parts.

Would you cross the Atlantic if you knew the airplane is built by Chinese? Better still how many Chinese are willing to fly their own home grown commercial jet.
Note. Chinese have their own space station and satellites in orbit. And a lot of military jets, helicopters, drones and ballistic missiles . Commercial travel is another animal all together.

basilico:


Would you cross the Atlantic if you knew the airplane is built by Chinese? Better still how many Chinese are willing to fly their own home grown commercial jet.
Note. Chinese have their own space station and satellites in orbit. And a lot of military jets, helicopters, drones and ballistic missiles . Commercial travel is another animal all together.

China is trying to look tough. The advantages they once had are gone. Samsung is pulling out production from China, Apple is going to India and other countries. Slowly China will fall behind, but the democrats are baboons, see how they chill for MS13, they will do the same for China

Oshey miracle drug.

First Covid now cancer. Not to mention its main role as a parasitic worm medicine.

basilico:


cococandy, you might be interested.

basilico:
Straight to my vault.
Ivermectin as part of oncology treatment. Peer reviewed journal.

I wonder when dump will take charge of the United States Food and Drug istration and write his own recommendations.

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/ivermectin-and-covid-19

😂😂😂

He has got to lie to himself for the rest of his life. Poor dude