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lawani(m): 5:14pm On Apr 22
dederocs:

Everyone knows first homosapiens were Africans due to fossils and remains discovered in East Africa/Ethiopia etc...

My point is we are not fully Homo sapiens. We have Neanderthal, Denisovan and etc ancestors and those are not native to Africa. West Africans even have what is called ghost DNA from an unidentified hominid
rapheal5(m): 11:23pm On Apr 22
[quote author=Fenrir post=134992848]

YOU GLORIFY YOUR ANCESTORS IN FAKE TRADITIONS THAT THEY WOULD BE INSULTED BY HOW YOU CHERRY PICK THEM TODAY NOT HONOURED AND THE BITTER TRUTH IS TO YOUR FUCKING ANCESTORS

NIGERIAN LIVES AND HUMAN LIVES MEANT VERY LITTLE

AND FYI STOP LYING ABOUT TRADITIONS AND TRADITIONAL WEDDINGS

NOTHING THAT A NIGERIAN FAMILY CALLS A TRADITIONAL WEDDING TODAY HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FUCKING TRADITIONS YOUR ANCESTORS STARTED

1) TRADITIONALLY A WOMAN NEVER GOT A CHOICE IN WHO SHE MARRIED OR WHEN, THE FATHER CHOSE A MAN WHOS FAMILY WOULD RAISE THEIR STATUS AND SHE WAS FORCED TO MARRY HIM

2) THE BRIDE PRICE WAS TO REFLECT THE EFFORT THE FATHER MADE IN RAISING HIS DAUGHTER

NOW YOU MEN MAKE NONE AND A WOMAN WITH A BODY COUNT OF 100 AND HER FATHER WILL STILL TRY TO RINSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FROM A GROOM AND HIS FAMILY

3) TRADITIONALLY IF A WOMAN HAD SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE OR WAS SEXUALLY ASSAULTED HER FAMILY WERE NOT ALLOWED A TRADITIONAL WEDDING AT ALL BECAUSE THEY DIDNT THEIR DAMN JOB

4) WHAT THE Bleep DO YOU THINK TRADITIONAL WEDDINGS WERE FOR TO YOUR ANCESTORS YOU FUCKING IDIOT MEN

THE BIGGER MORE POWERFUL TRIBE NEXT DOOR COULD WIPE YOU OUT OF THEY WANTED SO SELL THEM THE MOST BEAUTIFUL VIRGIN IN THE VILLAGE TO APPEASE THEM AND CALL IT A WEDDING

YOU GLORIFY ALL THIS SHIT BUT THE TRUTH IS YOU ARE CELEBRATING FAKE TRADITIONS TODAY BASED ON FEMALE SLAVERY
SELLING YOUR DAUGHTERS
AND CONTINUOUSLY BEING RAPED IN UNCONSENTUAL MARRIAGES

grow the Bleep up
Stop lying to yourselves
Stop lying to the world

Customary law doesn't fucking exist
No family in this country has a say in the wedding process at all

No family decides what happens or when


Are you the Vikings man who got marry to an Igbo lady?
Were you forced to marry her?
I have no issue with your ancestors enslaving the black, yes slave trade already existed before arrival of your ancestors but why did your ancestors enslave our deities/gods, your ancestors gave us religion and condemned our gods/deities..
Why the enslavement of our idol and why place it in the museum for people to see, it’s demonic yet your people took it why?
Kobojunkie: 11:26pm On Apr 22
rapheal5:
Are you the Vikings man who got marry to an Igbo lady? Were you forced to marry her? I have no issue with your ancestors enslaving the black, yes slave trade already existed before arrival of your ancestors but why did your ancestors enslave our deities/gods, your ancestors gave us religion and condemned our gods/deities.. Why the enslavement of our idol and why place it in the museum for people to see, it’s demonic yet your people took it why?
Enslavement of your idols? U no shame say people fit enslave your idols? Who did this evil to Una? undecided
rapheal5(m): 11:32pm On Apr 22
Kobojunkie:
Enslavement of your idols? U no shame say people fit enslave your idols? Who did this evil to Una? undecided

If that question is beyond your comprehension just , do not engage I repeat do not quote me…
Kobojunkie: 12:05am On Apr 23
rapheal5:
➜If that question is beyond your comprehension just , do not engage I repeat do not quote me…
See this one feigning intelligence still! 🙄🙄🙄
Fenrir(m): 6:38am On Apr 23
[quote author=rapheal5 post=135088578][/quote]

My ancestors enslaved everyone, no matter race or ethnicity and thry especially treated england like a fucking playground raiding every other week

The difference we dont lie about and play victim, and was it actually Norwegian? Or was it the Danish in the Norwegian name?

And you talk about force, no one can force you to do anything here

You demand and thats all

You demand respect for your fake cultures
You demand respect for your fake traditions
You demand respect for your disgusting elders that believed disgusting stuff like 15 year old girls should get married, that they cut the genitals of daughters up
You demand respect for your hierarchical society when any old cunt distantly related to you automatically demands respect eventhough were not part of your lives and did Bleep all to help you growing up

Its just demand, demand, demand, demand but you dont understand people just say "no, Bleep you" and do what they want, I do and did

Show me the law that says any of your little demands must be done at all

You men keep bitching on about how important your history is but most of you are taught real history and what good is that history when you men are still scum and pond life now?
dederocs(m): 8:11am On Apr 23
lawani:


My point is we are not fully Homo sapiens. We have Neanderthal, Denisovan and etc ancestors and those are not native to Africa. West Africans even have what is called ghost DNA from an unidentified hominid
First real humanoid were homosapiens, the others emanated from euroasia etc. homosapiens, the man that stands upright and started using basic tools emanated from Africa.
PrinceofAgoAre(m): 9:56am On Apr 23
Fenrir:
Mate im not Nigerian

Type English please or i don't bloody understand you

I understand a lot of languages but the ones here have always broken my brain


You're British but you write I'm as Im ..


Bloody fake ass ..


This one is not British ... He's either suffering from psychosis or personality disorder ..
Fenrir(m): 2:16pm On Apr 23
PrinceofAgoAre:


You're British but you write I'm as Im ..


Bloody fake ass ..


This one is not British ... He's either suffering from psychosis or personality disorder ..

I've said multiple times im not British and I have never claimed to be British

I am Scandinavian specifically Norwegian

And as for my typing im dyslexic and a form dyslexia that impacts typing
PrinceofAgoAre(m): 2:25pm On Apr 23
Fenrir:


I've said multiple times im not British and I have never claimed to be British

I am Scandinavian specifically Norwegian

And as for my typing im dyslexic and a form dyslexia that impacts typing


Crap ..


Post a picture of you touching your nose
Kobojunkie: 2:55pm On Apr 23
PrinceofAgoAre:
➜I'm waiting Mr fenrir .. Show us a picture of you any more of identification you got on you .. You shouldn't have a problem doing that if you really are some white fvck , do you 😕😕😕😕
What about you? Post a picture of yourself and maybe your children as identification first.
Kobojunkie: 2:56pm On Apr 23
PrinceofAgoAre:
➜Crap .. Post a picture of you touching your nose
Where is your picture of you, and the current Nairaland page as identification? Why do you require him to post his identification on a forum that allows individuals to chat without any such requirement? What in particular is the matter with you folks? undecided
Gloriagee(f): 3:16pm On Apr 23
You try too hard....
PrinceofAgoAre(m): 3:38pm On Apr 23
Kobojunkie:
Where is your picture of you, and the current Nairaland page as identification? Why do you require him to post his identification on a forum that allows individuals to chat without any such requirement? What in particular is the matter with you folks? undecided


Why do I get the feeling it's you behind that acct 😕😕😕

He claims to be something yet sounds otherwise . Now for us to really take him as who he is , he needs to prove it ..

Maybe only then would be get the attention he needs..


But I can bet my balls , that fellow is just some deranged fellow and not who he claims to be ..
RedboneSmith(m): 4:03pm On Apr 23
Kobojunkie:
Where is your picture of you, and the current Nairaland page as identification? Why do you require him to post his identification on a forum that allows individuals to chat without any such requirement? What in particular is the matter with you folks? undecided

I can’t quite decide if you are an asslicker or his alternative .
Kobojunkie: 4:04pm On Apr 23
RedboneSmith:
➜I can’t quite decide if you are an asslicker or his alternative .
LOL...You lot will believe anything to keep avoiding the issues raised on the thread by the OP, right? What will the ignorant not resort to all so he can get around broaching the issue at hand? grin
RedboneSmith(m): 4:21pm On Apr 23
Kobojunkie:
LOL...You lot will believe anything to keep avoiding the issues raised on the thread by the OP, right? What will the ignorant not resort to all so he can get around broaching the issue at hand? grin

“Oh, look at me, Massa. I is not like them negroes. I agrees with you. Dem negroes is stupid.” grin grin grin
Kobojunkie: 4:47pm On Apr 23
RedboneSmith:
✓ “Oh, look at me, Massa. I is not like them negroes. I agrees with you. Dem negroes is stupid.” grin grin grin
I nailed it, didn't I? 🤔

You lot will resort to any tactic to keep yourselves from directly attacking the subject put forth by the OP on the thread! 🙄🙄🙄
lawani(m): 4:52pm On Apr 23
Kobojunkie:
I nailed it, didn't I? 🤔

You lot will resort to any tactic to keep yourselves from directly attacking the subject put forth by the OP on the thread! 🙄🙄🙄

I have responded to him. I told him it is wrong to blame all white people for what the British or the French did with their colonial empires. I agreed with him. People are divided into ethnicities and nations and not into colors. I also said if he does not like the mega show of respect by the groom on wedding days during Yoruba weddings he should talk to his Yoruba fiancee if his fiancee is Yoruba. What more to add?. There is nothing harmful in Yoruba culture even if the respect is excessive. We can't change for him.

I also talked about how inter ethnic rivalry is a root cause of Nigeria's go slow
Kobojunkie: 5:14pm On Apr 23
lawani:
✓ I have responded to him. I told him it is wrong to blame all white people for what the British or the French did with their colonial empires. I agreed with him. People are divided into ethnicities and nations and not into colors. I also said if he does not like the mega show of respect by the groom on wedding days during Yoruba weddings he should talk to his Yoruba fiancee if his fiancee is Yoruba. What more to add?. There is nothing harmful in Yoruba culture even if the respect is excessive. We can't change for him.
✓ I also talked about how inter ethnic rivalry is a root cause of Nigeria's go slow
Nonsense! There is everything harmful about the culture as is highlighted by the facts of life and living in yorubaland even today. Stop making generalized statements out of ignorance/blindness abeg! undecided

2. Inner ethnic rivalry that exists even between those who claim to be Yorubas, you conveniently ignore,abi? Nonsense! Stop trying to shift blame, abeg . undecided
lawani(m): 5:50pm On Apr 23
Kobojunkie:
Nonsense! There is everything harmful about the culture as is highlighted by the facts of life and living in yorubaland even today. Stop making generalized statements out of ignorance/blindness abeg! undecided

2. Inner ethnic rivalry that exists even between those who claim to be Yorubas, you conveniently ignore,abi? Nonsense! Stop trying to shift blame, abeg . undecided


The major reason he hates Yoruba men is they expect to be prostrated to during the wedding of their daughters. Marriages here even last longer than global average so the other issues about marital rape etc that he raised can be contested. I don't accept that it occurs more here.

I agree that there is rivalry between Yoruba subgroups and that we can deal with the rivalry in Nigeria no matter how long it takes but it will still be a colonial state using English. It will still be a successor of the British empire. The Hausa, Yoruba, Igbo etc are big enough to stand on their own two feet in the United Nations using their own languages. However the rivalry among Yoruba subgroups is not unhealthy. The rivalry in Nigeria is totally unhealthy. There are often fatal clashes and etc. Security first.
Kobojunkie: 6:19pm On Apr 23
lawani:
✓ The major reason he hates Yoruba men is they expect to be prostrated to during the wedding of their daughters. ✓ Marriages here even last longer than global average so the other issues about marital rape etc that he raised can be contested. I don't accept that it occurs more here.
✓ I agree that there is rivalry between Yoruba subgroups and that we can deal with the rivalry in Nigeria no matter how long it takes but it will still be a colonial state using English. It will still be a successor of the British empire. The Hausa, Yoruba, Igbo etc are big enough to stand on their own two feet in the United Nations using their own languages. However the rivalry among Yoruba subgroups is not unhealthy. The rivalry in Nigeria is totally unhealthy. There are often fatal clashes and etc. Security first.
1. And? undecided

2. Nonsense! What in the world do you mean they can be contested? undecided

3. Focus! This thread isn't about Nigeria but about issues the OP raised of his research and observations about the Yorubas culture and belief systems. Stop deviating. undecided
lawani(m): 7:53pm On Apr 23
Kobojunkie:
1. And? undecided

2. Nonsense! What in the world do you mean they can be contested? undecided

3. Focus! This thread isn't about Nigeria but about issues the OP raised of his research and observations about the Yorubas culture and belief systems. Stop deviating. undecided

I mean I don't agree that marriages here are the worst in the world.
Then the discussion is about Nigeria. He pointedly said Nigerian men have made a mess of the country and I pointed out that the mess is a colonial mess and the rivalry among ethnic groups is a contributory factor to the malaise. I agree with him that if a country is bad you blame the men but I pointed out an important causative factor.
Kobojunkie: 8:00pm On Apr 23
lawani:
➜I mean I don't agree that marriages here are the worst in the world.
➜ Then the discussion is about Nigeria.
➜ He pointedly said Nigerian men have made a mess of the country
➜ and I pointed out that the mess is a colonial mess and the rivalry among ethnic groups is a contributory factor to the malaise.
➜ I agree with him that if a country is bad you blame the men, but I pointed out an important causative factor.
1. It is OK to hold an opinion, but denying the facts is something entirely different. Marriages in even Yoruba land— since this discussion is about Yorubaland— are in terrible straits. The abandonment rate reveals this to anyone paying attention. undecided

2. No, since Yorubaland does not make up the whole of Nigeria. undecided

3. Yes, he did say that, but made sure to telescope down to the Yoruba culture, not Bini, Efik, Hausa, Egbira, etc.— in particular. undecided

4. The Colonial mess is an attempt by folks like you to shirk responsibility for the mess created by your ancestors, and current traditional and religious leaders. He was clear, you all need to stop doing that nonsense already! undecided

5. You did no such thing! undecided
lawani(m): 8:14pm On Apr 23
Kobojunkie:
1. It is OK to hold an opinion, but denying the facts is something entirely different. Marriages in even Yoruba land— since this discussion is about Yorubaland— are in terrible straits. The abandonment rate reveals this to anyone paying attention. undecided

2. No, since Yorubaland does not make up the whole of Nigeria. undecided

3. Yes, he did say that, but made sure to telescope down to the Yoruba culture, not Bini, Efik, Hausa, Egbira, etc.— in particular. undecided

4. The Colonial mess is an attempt by folks like you to shirk responsibility for the mess created by your ancestors, and current traditional and religious leaders. He was clear, you all need to stop doing that nonsense already! undecided

5. You did no such thing! undecided


Well, he probably did research, so he maybe right if the research was well done about marriages in Yoruba land but I know that in a place like the USA, Nigerians are known for their strong family values.

I meant that I pointed out ethnic rivalry as a causative factor for the malaise in Nigeria. I believe it is, maybe you dont.

Would you say was not looming over Francophone west Africa until recently?. If you say Britain has not been looming over Nigeria you would be wrong. I am doing my best that I can offer for the country and overtime I have learnt many things. I used to think we over flog the issue of neo colonialism but I was wrong.
We stand on the mistakes and exploits of our ancestors. There were great men and faulty men among them.
Kobojunkie: 8:26pm On Apr 23
lawani:
➜Well, he probably did research, so he maybe right if the research was well done about marriages in Yoruba land but I know that in a place like the USA, Nigerians are known for their strong family values.
➜ I meant that I pointed out ethnic rivalry as a causative factor for the malaise in Nigeria. I believe it is, maybe you dont.
➜ Would you say was not looming over Francophone west Africa until recently?. If you say Britain has not been looming over Nigeria you would be wrong. I am doing my best that I can offer for the country and overtime I have learnt many things. I used to think we over flog the issue of neo imperialism but I was wrong.
We stand on the mistakes and exploits of our ancestors. There were great men and faulty men among them.
Stop telling that nonsense lie! Divorce trends in the USA for Nigerians are similar to divorce rates among other ethnicities also living in the USA. In some cases, it is suspected to be higher depending on what you look at. https://doi.org/10.20849/ajsss.v4i2.608

2. This is the Culture section, so leave Nigeria out of this while you focus entirely on the issues raised on the Yoruba culture, issues which you still continue to dance around. undecided

3. Stop with the frustrating deviations already! Focus on the subject at hand, which is cultural issues identified by him that exist to this day in Yorubaland. undecided

4. So, absolutely no intentions of seeing those mistakes rectified or corrected, right? Why didn't you simply say this from the start instead of dragging this on unnecessarily? undecided
lawani(m): 8:30pm On Apr 23
One thing is if Fenrir did his sampling among very poor people, he will record more failed marriages and spouse abuse. All my family have stable marriages and their children are doing well.

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