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lawani:

My brother, there is no hell. My research with the IFA oracle says spirits incarnate for food. The time spent on Earth and the good deeds done translate to time to be spent in heaven by spirits. Old spirits are always competing with themselves to incarnate. One thing is you can be delayed in heaven to be doing security work for your Earth family and they will feed you. The cause of that is if you did a whole lot of wrong in your last incarnation. All according to my research with IFA. Normally you will not be allowed to spend more than 151 years before you reincarnate and the lowest you can spend is 6.5 months

Where did you conduct this research with Ifa?

Truthseeker10:

Where did you conduct this research with Ifa?

In the privacy of my home

wirinet:

Yep. It does. You need to close your bible once a while and pick up other books, especially on biology, or better still subscribe to national geographic or other animal nature documentary channels. Whales and dolphins are known to have quite distinct languages and dialects, and so do many other animals.

I don't even understand what you mean by "So learning different also happen among animals, shey", as the question is so nonsensical. Even if you have ever raised raised a chicken, you will know than chick's learn from their mother (the hen).

So how come two different kinds of animals can't work together like humans if truly they learn languages and speak it among themselves?

lawani:


In the privacy of my home

😂😂😂I thought as much.

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂I thought as much.

IFA is not difficult to use if you understand the signs and your spirit is willing to help you. The key thing is for your spirit to be willing. Your spirit connects you to the billions of other spirits and there is no information impossible to access for it.

wirinet:

Science can - social science and biology.
Languages are systems of communication used by social groups of animals, enabling them to convey information and interact with one another. These systems can take various forms, including vocalizations, visual signals, auditory cues, olfactory (scent-based) signals, or even tactile and sensual communication. Each species, subspecies, or social group, such as a clan or family, develops its own distinct form of language tailored to its specific needs and environment.

Moreover, languages are dynamic and evolve over time to meet the changing needs of the society that uses them. The English language, for instance, is markedly different from what it was 200 years ago, and it is likely to continue evolving over the next 200 years, adapting to new cultural, technological, and social developments.

The myth of the whole world speaking one language is just that - a myth, a fable. We call it fàbu

So how did humans begin to speak different languages?

lawani:

IFA is not difficult to use if you understand the signs and your spirit is willing to help you. The key thing is for your spirit to be willing. Your spirit connects you to the billions of other spirits and there is no information impossible to access for it.

Where are these billions of other spirits and where did you get knowledge of them?

MaxInDHouse:

So how come two different kinds of animals can't work together like humans if truly they learn languages and speak it among themselves?

Guy educate urself abeg, ur ignorance stinks. How can someone ask this kind of dumb question in 2025. Ants, bees and termites that have ranks and heirachies between them, demonstrating complex social communication and organisation while building complex homes are what?! Wolves, Wild dogs even Lions that live in packs who cooperate and coordinate hunts together while demonstrating ranks in situations like who eats first and last are what?! Birds in flocks that communicate and cooperate to organise migration to far distances same period yearly while flying in a coordinated v shape, takng turns at the front to reduce aerodynamic drag and conserve energy are what?! Educate urself nau.

Omoawoke:


So when it comes to the making an unverified claim that marvel sells better than Bible, you are quick to quickly refer me to google… that’s quick to resolve

But chatgpt does it better so I checked it out..

Guess what I found, you are absolutely correct!!!
So easy! No argument… I accept I was wrong!!

Only a foolish person will refuse to change their mind and keep arguing despite overwhelming evidence

So I asked chatgpt again, is it true that the Bible ever claim that the whole world came from Noah ?

In fact I screenshot your post and pasted it straight to chatgpt….lolzz

Cc maxindhouse

As usual paxonel don score own goal again🤣

wirinet:

Science can - social science and biology.
Languages are systems of communication used by social groups of animals, enabling them to convey information and interact with one another. These systems can take various forms, including vocalizations, visual signals, auditory cues, olfactory (scent-based) signals, or even tactile and sensual communication. Each species, subspecies, or social group, such as a clan or family, develops its own distinct form of language tailored to its specific needs and environment.

Moreover, languages are dynamic and evolve over time to meet the changing needs of the society that uses them. The English language, for instance, is markedly different from what it was 200 years ago, and it is likely to continue evolving over the next 200 years, adapting to new cultural, technological, and social developments.

The myth of the whole world speaking one language is just that - a myth, a fable. We call it fàbu

Some common sense to educate these uncivilized mfs. Watch em take extra steps to remain ignorant and dense.

Lucifyre:

Guy educate urself

Why is it that it's only few that were like programmed to do certain things?
I'm asking of animals like monkey and goats work together after speaking the same language?

MaxInDHouse:

Why is it that it's only few that were like programmed to do certain things?
I'm asking of animals like monkey and goats work together after speaking the same language?

Which few?! Virtually most animals are like that as its a necessary tool for survival, even monkeys form social groups and have clans similar to human familial structures, so what are you saying. They even have lookouts for predators who gives the signal that a predator is in the area so the others in the clan can escape. Same applies to goats, cats, etc so what are you saying?! If you want to survive you work together, very simple. To the extent sometimes even solitary animals form alliances to hunt for food or even friendships. This is honestly embarrassing.

Lucifyre:

Which few?! Virtually most animals are like that as its a necessary tool for survival, even monkeys form social groups and have clans similar to human familial structures, so what are you saying. They even have lookouts for predators who gives the signal that a predator is in the area so the others in the clan can escape. Same applies to goats, cats, etc so what are you saying?! If you want to survive you work together, very simple. To the extent sometimes even solitary animals form alliances to hunt for food or even friendships. This is honestly embarrassing.

Do monkeys speak with gorillas?

MaxInDHouse:


Do monkeys speak with gorillas?

Yes they can communicate, same way my dog communicates with my cat.🤦🏾 Oga go and educate urself abeg.

Lucifyre:


Like i always tell you its your children i pity for. To have to constantly call a dedicated oaf like you father would weigh heavily on the mind.

💀💀💀💀💀

Omoawoke:


Okay, for the sake of making progress… let us assume you are right

So it means we aren’t descendants of Noah, Tower of Babel is not literal….. according to you.

So it’s safe to say the Bible is a story of certain people in certain part of the world… The Jews actually..

Exactly!
It literally includes the surrounding world of the current middle East and part of Africa such as Egypt and Ethopia.

So what’s my business, a Yoruba person, an African man… what is my business with the Bible stories then?

if you go to Europe to talk about your Yoruba African culture, it shouldn't be their business?

Everyone is entitled to learn something new from anywhere around the world.

So as I don’t have any interest in the Bible,

it's very ok, it's your choice.
But another Yoruba person will happily want to

does that make me evil?

not at all

And deserving to burn in hell?

ofcourse, you will burn in hell

I have my own ancestors and my own stories just that a bad job was done in keeping good records… so if I were to be interested in finding history, it should be about the history of myself and identity… not reading about the Jews and their stories…
What do you think ??

I think the choice is yours to make.
The world is open for anyone to read anything and choose where to follow

paxonel:
Exactly!
It literally includes the surrounding world of the current middle East and part of Africa such as Egypt and Ethopia.
if you go to Europe to talk about your Yoruba African culture, it shouldn't be their business?

Everyone is entitled to learn something new from anywhere around the world.
it's very ok, it's your choice.
But another Yoruba person will happily want to
not at all
ofcourse, you will burn in hell

I think the choice is yours to make.
The world is open for anyone to read anything and choose where to follow

So you really think I deserve to burn in hell for not BELIEVING a story?

Hahahaha…..

Okay few more questions please….
Please don’t dribble around, answer confidently with your full chest

Are you a descendant of Adam? Yes or no

Are you, Paxonel , a descendant of Noah, yes or no?

I

Omoawoke:



So you really think I deserve to burn in hell for not BELIEVING a story?

Hahahaha…..

it does not depend whether i think so or not.
Moreover, burning in hell does not necessarily mean you will burn in hell like the misconception religion is teaching even till today.
It simply means when you die, you are gone forever. No resurrection for you.

Adam and Eve sinned from the beginning death came. But Christ resurrected such that we too will resurrects after we die and continue to live eternally on this earth.
Now, what are the evidences that all these are true?
The evidences are fulfilment of prophecies.
We saw that prophecies written in the bible thousands of years ago came to existence in this present time exactly the way the prophecies were written, and it becomes an overwhelming common trend today.

So, if it was written in bible thousands of years ago. How did the writers know that these trend was going to happen?
And according to what was written that we have read, there was a consistent pattern and signs to show from generation to generation, from era to era, that it will happen until it eventually happened and we are seeing what has happened that it is present with us today, affecting our world political systems and our various individual interests unknowingly, and as evidence to relate it with what was written thousands of years ago

There has never been any such thing in the history of mankind.

For this reason, the book is currently the best selling book in the whole world because a lot of people want to know what exactly is inside the book in order to grasp or understand it content, because they are sensing something strange,influencial and unique about it that no one can deny till this moment.

Okay few more questions please….
Please don’t dribble around, answer confidently with your full chest

Are you a descendant of Adam? Yes or no

Are you, Paxonel , a descendant of Noah, yes or no?

I

ok, when you say descendant, what exactly do you mean?
Are you saying descendant by evolutionary trend or you are saying that Adam and Eve or Noah are directly my ancestors?

Just imagine the variation
The geographical distance between Africa where i am and were these people could possibly exist in their time.
It is not possible that Adam or Noah could be anyone's Ancestors of today.

And for your information, there are evidence in the bible to show that other humans were already living in some places on earth as at the time the bible documented that Adam and Eve were crested

paxonel:
it does not depend whether i think so or not.
Moreover, burning in hell does not necessarily mean you will burn in hell like the misconception religion is teaching even till today.
It simply means when you die, you are gone forever. No resurrection for you.

Adam and Eve sinned from the beginning death came. But Christ resurrected such that we too will resurrects after we die and continue to live eternally on this earth.
Now, what are the evidences that all these are true?
The evidences are fulfilment of prophecies.
We saw that prophecies written in the bible thousands of years ago came to existence in this present time exactly the way the prophecies were written, and it becomes an overwhelming common trend today.

So, if it was written in bible thousands of years ago. How did the writers know that these trend was going to happen?
And according to what was written that we have read, there was a consistent pattern and signs to show from generation to generation, from era to era, that it will happen until it eventually happened and we are seeing what has happened that it is present with us today, affecting our world political systems and our various individual interests unknowingly, and as evidence to relate it with what was written thousands of years ago

There has never been any such thing in the history of mankind.

For this reason, the book is currently the best selling book in the whole world because a lot of people want to know what exactly is inside the book in order to grasp or understand it content, because they are sensing something strange,influencial and unique about it that no one can deny till this moment.
ok, when you say descendant, what exactly do you mean?
Are you saying descendant by evolutionary trend or you are saying that Adam and Eve or Noah are directly my ancestors?

Just imagine the variation
The geographical distance between Africa where i am and were these people could possibly exist in their time.
It is not possible that Adam or Noah could be anyone's Ancestors of today.

And for your information, there are evidence in the bible to show that other humans were already living in some places on earth as at the time the bible documented that Adam and Eve were crested

Okay, cool

We are heading somewhere

So you aren’t a descendant of Adam and Eve….

Hmmmm

I’m really curious now and I want to understand

So the fall of Adam and Eve, the entire story of Adam committing a sin, going against Gods original plan… and Jesus coming to die for their redemption…

Since we Africans aren’t connected to this guys, then what’s our business with their stories?

We have our own history as Africans, why can’t we invest in our own and write our own history….

What’s my business as a Yoruba person with Noah and co?

Lucifyre:

Yes they can communicate, same way my dog communicates with my cat.🤦🏾 Oga go and educate urself abeg.

I can communicate with other creatures through my actions too what i'm asking you is:
Do these creatures have a language that they are learning among themselves like humans do speak common language e.g English?

Omoawoke:

MaxindHouse

I will rather name my child Orunmila than Abraham or Elijah or any Bible names.

Do you know Ọ̀rúnmìlà's lifestyle?
Ọmọ i will give my child a name that i can give the child a reason why i choose that particular name for him.
If you like name your child anything that pleases you i'm less concerned!

Omoawoke:

And if you ever say it is evil again, then may your Orun never la. … say amen !

You are really funny walahi talahi!
Ọmọ those names belongs to DEMONS i challenged lawani to a open debate that will expose those demons but he ran away knowing fully well that Max is fully competent to destroy his Ọ̀rúnmìlà with knowledge and wisdom.
Why not tell him to take up the challenge instead of talking rubbish?
I have humbled all your ego, at first you said it is written in the Quran that Muhammad splited the moon and put it in his pocket but when i asked you to quote it you became silent, you also said it's written in the Bible that the earth is flat and again i proved you wrong.
So my advice for you is to make sure of all things and hold firmly on to what is fine not just speculating when you don't have all the facts! 1Thessalonians 5:21

MaxInDHouse:

Do you know Ọ̀rúnmìlà's lifestyle?
Ọmọ i will give my child a name that i can give the child a reason why i choose that particular name for him.
If you like name your child anything that pleases you i'm less concerned!

So what’s Orunmila lifestyle? The one your colonizers told you?

I heard of Elijah and he’s a terrible human being… an evil murderer that was painted like a hero

Or Abraham, the one that almost used his son for sacrifice ( imagine someone almost slaughtering their son in the name of obeying a daft god)

Is it not Abraham that fuvked his wife’s maid…

And they painted them like heros… bros, all na packaging… nollywood script

I repeat, if you are sure…. Say to yourself that your Orun will not la!

Omoawoke:

So what’s Orunmila lifestyle? The one your colonizers told you?
I heard of Elijah and he’s a terrible human being… an evil murderer that was painted like a hero. Or Abraham, the one that almost used his son for sacrifice ( imagine someone almost slaughtering their son in the name of obeying a daft god) Is it not Abraham that fuvked his wife’s maid… And they painted them like heros… bros, all na packaging… nollywood script I repeat, if you are sure…. Say to yourself that your Orun will not la!

Ọmọ Ọ̀rúnmìlà is a DEMON!
That's why you can't say anything about his lifestyle unlike real humans who lived normal lives that you and i can relate with.
So i repeat again if you want name your child whatever you wish but i will give my child a name that makes sense to me!

@ Omoawoke
You have the right to question anything brought to you whether local or foreign that is wisdom but fighting in of your local deities simply out of jealousy is confirmed stupidity that's what i just showed you.

Omoawoke:


Okay, cool

We are heading somewhere

So you aren’t a descendant of Adam and Eve….

Hmmmm

I’m really curious now and I want to understand

So the fall of Adam and Eve, the entire story of Adam committing a sin, going against Gods original plan… and Jesus coming to die for their redemption…

Since we Africans aren’t connected to this guys, then what’s our business with their stories?

We have our own history as Africans, why can’t we invest in our own and write our own history….

What’s my business as a Yoruba person with Noah and co?

There is a common factor about all humans.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God

The story of Adam and Eve is just an illustration to show that all have sinned. Everyone have their own story about what sin that they have done. Only that Adam and Eve own was documented in the bible as an illustration to show what happens generally

paxonel:

There is a common factor about all humans.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God

The story of Adam and Eve is just an illustration to show that all have sinned. Everyone have their own story about what sin that they have done. Only that Adam and Eve own was documented in the bible as an illustration to show what happens generally

This we are all sinners rhetoric serves to make the society even worse. I am not a sinner. I do only rational things

lawani:

This we are all sinners rhetoric serves to make the society even worse. I am not a sinner. I do only rational things

You can only fool unintelligent people in your neighborhood not wise individuals online.
Your problem is jealousy as those religious leaders are making millions and living large while you with your own spirituality scam can't make customers out of those mugus in the society so you wish all those religions should be banned for your Ifá to have no competitor.
If you're sure of your Ifá i put it to you again that your useless, worthless, hopeless Ifá is nothing but the same scam like what those religious yahoo big boys are into.
So if you want to quote anyone on this forum you're free but never again should you quote me (MaxInDHouse) with your nonsense and ingredients Ifá!

lawani:


This we are all sinners rhetoric serves to make the society even worse. I am not a sinner. I do only rational things

And your irrational things be it consciously or unconsciously are affecting other people so long you interact with them. How will you explain that this is not sin?

To prove that there were other people on earth at the time of creation.

Genesis 12:11 And it came to , when he was come near to enter into Egypt, that he said unto Sarai his wife, Behold now, I know that thou art a fair woman to look upon:

This shows that Egygt has been in existence during creation

MaxInDHouse:


You can only fool unintelligent people in your neighborhood not wise individuals online.
Your problem is jealousy as those religious leaders are making millions and living large while you with your own spirituality scam can't make customers out of those mugus in the society so you wish all those religions should be banned for your Ifá to have no competitor.
If you're sure of your Ifá i put it to you again that your useless, worthless, hopeless Ifá is nothing but the same scam like what those religious yahoo big boys are into.
So if you want to quote anyone on this forum you're free but never again should you quote me (MaxInDHouse) with your nonsense and ingredients Ifá!

Why are you irritable?. I am sorry to get on your nerves. I am against only toxic spiritualities ie religions meaning Christianity and Islam. Islam don't have mega Imams like mega Pastors but I am still against them. Alfas operate like Babalawos. They work for you and you pay but their beliefs and what they teach is a problem to humanity and that causes me to be against them. I started this fight unknowingly with poems in 2000 and I have survived several attempts on my life from Christians and Muslims. If you don't want to engage me just stay off my mentions too. It takes two to tango.

lawani:

Why are you irritable?. I am sorry to get on your nerves. I am against only toxic spiritualities ie religions meaning Christianity and Islam. Islam don't have mega Imams like mega Pastors but I am still against them. Alfas operate like Babalawos. They work for you and you pay but their beliefs and what they teach is a problem to humanity and that causes me to be against them. I started this fight unknowingly with poems in 2000 and I have survived several attempts on my life from Christians and Muslims. If you don't want to engage me just stay off my mentions too. It takes two to tango.

I'm not interested in whatever you want to say this is what i want you to address.

MaxInDHouse:

This is Oxford dictionary definition of KNOWLEDGE.

*The fact of knowing about something; general understanding or familiarity with a subject, place, situation.

*Awareness of a particular fact or situation; a state of having been informed or made aware of something

*Intellectual understanding; the state of appreciating truth or information.

The spirituality i subscribe to which is BIBLE teaches me that any other forms of spirituality is scam and falsehood.

Of course i never swallowed that hook line and sinker since Bible itself is a book written by humans like me but one thing i found really strange about the Bible is how it answers questions having to do with our existence on this planet:

*How did life begin?
*Why are we here?
*Why do innocent people suffer?
*What happens when a person dies?
*If everyone wants peace, why is there so much war?
*What will happen to the earth in the future?

There is no form of spirituality that can adequately address these issues like the Bible so i realized that what the Bible says about all other sources of divine guidance is true, they are all scam or falsehood.

But if you disagree let us pick those questions one after the other you should present answers your Ifá gives so that everyone following this thread can while i will use my Bible.

Are you ready?

Meanwhile note that despite your Ifá stupidity worshipers of your Ifá still wage war against themselves due to politics but the Bible God said that is because what you people trust is a demon that's only interested in worship but can't help you people!

lawani:

If you don't want to engage me just stay off my mentions too.

I'm 100% sure that you will die if you try to stop mentioning me because i have no need of you in any way since my own business is to interact with interested persons it's you who is dying due to the success of other religions around you while your Ifá starves because it has no customers!

MaxInDHouse:

I'm 100% sure that you will die if you try to stop mentioning me because i have no need of you in any way since my own business is to interact with interested persons it's you who is dying due to the success of other religions around you while your Ifá starves because it has no customers!

IFA priests have customers. It is a well established spirituality globally. What I am seeking is the stability and progress of humanity