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Maeve7: 9:05pm On Feb 17
SpaceX:
There will always be people like this and that is how they live their lives, always unsure in taking decision. Meanwhile president Trump approval rating is up by 80% and he is delivering his mandate to a perfection.

At this point I'm already drunk off some liberals and it's Wailer's tears, I feel I'm about to drown.

Why not make it 90%? grin

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basilico: 9:17pm On Feb 17
IjeBos:


No need to force me to post anything.
I can easily back up whatever I say... that's the benefit of posting factual info and not being a mindless right wing drone.

It's always amazes me though, how to people like you the facts/court filings/confessions in court that are out there are lies and the lies without any facts behind them you take as Gospel truth.

Your mind is broken.

I plucked the section from the pertinent court filing.
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/s/2024/12/smirnov-plea-deal.pdf


Maybe you can let us know why almost all FBI agents are being asked to go away peacefully .
If they did their jobs to the letter there would be no backlash. In first term only a few top FBI were forced out.
Go ahead tell us FBI is the most trusted investigative agency in the World.
IjeBos(m): 9:20pm On Feb 17
SpaceX:
The repair shop owner confirmed that all allegation levelled against Hunter Biden was 100% true and even more that he is not allow to say. FBI made away with the laptop and never released it contents but the shop owner saw everything. The information is online.

The half blind repair shop owner confirmed that all allegations, including the one involving Hunter and Ukraine were 100% true?
Did he use his third eye to see this?

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basilico: 9:29pm On Feb 17
Trump wants sn agreement with Kiev ,but he is demanding $300 billion sent to Ukraine first.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/02/17/revealed-trump-confidential-plan-ukraine-stranglehold/
Zelensky said he only received $70 billion , where is the other $230? Stolen and routed back to America war hawks and political campaigns?

Unsaid part If Kiev won't agree to hand over their wealth incase of a peace deal with Russia, Trump won't lose sleep if Putin takes over all of Ukraine.
Both Trump and Putin are also calling for elections. Zelensky can't win an election the war has to go on ,no elections are to held in war time . Zelensky being president is tied to the west funding the war.

Trump plan is that no economic deal can be struck with any other country after a peace deal without Americans getting first priority. I think Trump is a bit greedy here.
In short this war will be over in a matter of months.

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Obrigardo: 9:31pm On Feb 17
cococandy:
Aren’t you the one who supposedly doesn’t insult people? Lol

I see that ignoring your trolling has caused you to abandon your facade.

I know nothing irks trolls more than being ignored.🤭🤭

Fúck him and every low quality braindead maga cultists in here. They are the absolute dumbest people in this century.

Just watch these fools make an argument for the rapist trump for this.

I'm gonna re-up my prediction again - the racist trump will die an horrible death by the hands of maga because maga seems to be hurt the most with the rapist's economic wars.
He thinks maga is going to listen to Nazi elon telling them to suck it up for two years.

He was "allegedly" almost killed by assassins (that we never hear of again), both republican and libertarian leaning chuds.

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cococandy(f): 9:38pm On Feb 17
We tried to tell them 🤷🏽‍♀️
Obrigardo:


maga seems to be hurt the most with the rapist's economic wars.

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basilico: 9:42pm On Feb 17
cococandy:
Aren’t you the one who supposedly doesn’t insult people? Lol

I see that ignoring your trolling has caused you to abandon your facade.

I know nothing irks trolls more than being ignored.🤭🤭
Generally I don't insult people unless they come at me. I'm a xtian but I don't turn the other cheek, I also didn't invent any word so I can freely use any choice insult I want.
I also dont suffer fools , I'll respond to any post I want.
I've repeated this for years, I use nairaland as my online bookmark site.I don't need you to agree with me on anything, but I won't let a lie go unchallenged. That is, if it's not from Ijebos the resident idiot. Obrigardo is beyond redemption,I periodically mention him as a caring brother to check that he hasn't killed himself.

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basilico: 9:47pm On Feb 17
Obrigardo:


Fúck him and every low quality braindead maga cultists in here. They are the absolute dumbest people in this century.

Just watch these fools make an argument for the rapist trump for this.

I'm gonna re-up my prediction again - the racist trump will die an horrible death by the hands of maga because maga seems to be hurt the most with the rapist's economic wars.
He thinks maga is going to listen to Nazi elon telling them to suck it up for two years.

He was "allegedly" almost killed by assassins (that we never hear of again), both republican and libertarian leaning chuds.

Why you never hear about the assassins?
Why? Because the investigating body was part of the plan or because the attempts didn't happen as reported?

About food prices. I don't know what will happen
basilico: 9:56pm On Feb 17
IjeBos:


The half blind repair shop owner confirmed that all allegations, including the one involving Hunter and Ukraine were 100% true?
Did he use his third eye to see this?
Not only that . When FBI raided Giuliani and took all his electronics, he told them to take disks with copies of Hunter Bidens laptop .He told them there was Child porn in those disks.
They refused and confiscated everything else they could leaving the disks.

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basilico: 10:36pm On Feb 17
Trump Executive Order on DOGE was well crafted and cast in stone. DOGE predecessor USDS had direct access to all federal IT systems as crafted by its creator Obama.
DOGE is operating within the legal framework of USDS.
Those suing DOGE are wasting their time and donor funds

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Android17: 10:39pm On Feb 17
IjeBos:


No need to force me to post anything.
I can easily back up whatever I say... that's the benefit of posting factual info and not being a mindless right wing drone.

It's always amazes me though, how to people like you the facts/court filings/confessions in court that are out there are lies and the lies without any facts behind them you take as Gospel truth.

Your mind is broken.

I plucked the section from the pertinent court filing.
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/s/2024/12/smirnov-plea-deal.pdf

The mistake you keep making is replying, rather than hiding like all you ninnies do when nabbed. Now we don't even suspect you are a spastic numpty, we have proof for it here.

Stop posting this fluff about a freaking petition conjured by the corrupt DOJ and FBI. Hello The same FBI that got 51 of their ex and current staffers to swear an oath against the verisimilitude of the laptop? Even though, they had received it for months on end and could the contents?

Do you even know why that laptop was discovered? You think Hunter randomly forgot it? Do you think Ashley's diary was randomly leaked? You're so naive, I feel like calling you a fool. Hunter intentionally forgot the laptop at the repair shop and never went back to retrieve it even after the repair man had reached out repeatedly!

Hunter wanted to get back at his father! Another fact you TDS denialists will have to deal with as you cape for Biden.

Back to Smirnov, lol, please allow me lay out how stupid what you posted is;

- Hunter's laptop had his emails and texts
- Hunter's laptop had payment receipts from Burisma and co
- Hunter's laptop had the sharing formula
- Hunter's laptop had names many of which confirmed the exchanges (proving they were real)
- Hunter's laptop had Tony Bobulinski's name ( a Navy Seal and successful business man)
-Tony Bobulinski confirmed meeting Joe in meetings and hearing Hunter name drop his father in their dealings with Burisma and co
-Tony confirmed Joe was the big guy who got 10%
- I'm not bringing up the hard drugs, prostitutes, underage women and so on.

Biden is on video saying he threatened to withhold $1 bln of Ukraine foreign aid if the chief prosecutor investigating Burisma was not removed.
Biden called the prosecutor a son of a bitch. All on video.

The prosecutor was removed. (Fun fact: Trump was impeached first time for withholding aid from Ukraine even though he only threatened to. He still released the money without Ukraine doing what he asked for).

IjeDross wants you to ignore everything above, and settle for the fact that an FBI informant (meaning said person used to work for the corrupt FBI by proxy) who was not related to the case, made some fabrications about it. Then they sentenced him and made it look like it proved Joe had no role in his son's dealings. Think of it.

What's to say, they did not bribe that fake informant to make up those statements just so they could attach him to the case. Then by finding him guilty, they absolved sleepy Joe. What's to say that did not happen.

Afterall, Joe pardoned that son as well as the rest of his family from 2014 (when Burisma issue started).

The DNC does not rate their party ers and loyalists. They treat you guys like fools. See the type of botched job IjeDross is needing to do here. That's rough.

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IjeBos(m): 11:24pm On Feb 17
Android17:
The mistake you keep making is replying, rather than hiding like all you ninnies do when nabbed. Now we don't even suspect you are a spastic numpty, we have proof for it here.

The prosecutor was removed. (Fun fact: Trump was impeached first time for withholding aid from Ukraine even though he only threatened to. He still released the money without Ukraine doing what he asked for).

IjeDross wants you to ignore everything above, and settle for the fact that an FBI informant (meaning said person used to work for the corrupt FBI by proxy) who was not related to the case, made some fabrications about it. Then they sentenced him and made it look like it proved Joe had no role in his son's dealings. Think of it.

The DNC does not rate their party ers and loyalists. They treat you guys like fools. See the type of botched job IjeDross is needing to do here. That's rough.

Ahh, so I thought you'd expose me if I posted the court documents? Guess not.
Just another mentally ill rant.
Next you will be talking about how the aliens abducted you as a child... and they all looked like Hunter Biden.

You mean that Smirnov whose allegations were central to the House impeachment of Joe Biden was not central to the Burisma case?
You sound more and more like a nut.
When Basilico has gone silent trying to defend it, you should probably know you've lost.

And it's so odd that you still revive this multiply debunked lie that somehow Biden tried to get the Ukrainian prosecutor fired for investigating his son. It's a lie for particularly stupid people which you seem to be one.
The Ukrainian prosecutor wasn't investigating corruption. Hence why everyone, from the International community to Ukrainians wanted him gone. Joe Biden was just delivering that message which was a bipartisan US message.

I love when people reveal themselves as nuts real time.
The right wing echo machine has done real damage to minds of people like you.
This shit is easy to read and research.
But it's like up is down and left is right.

And fyi, stop trying so hard to sound witty. You're not.
Reading your feigned intelligence is cringe.

Prosecutor was not investigating Burisma at the time Joe Biden called for his removal
Burisma Holdings was not under scrutiny at the time Joe Biden called for Shokin to be removed, per the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine, an independent agency that has worked closely with the FBI.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/

As a result, Biden leveraged $1 billion in aid as "a stick to move Ukraine forward," Kupchan said. "He was acting alongside our European allies. Everybody was of a single mind that this prosecutor was not the right guy for the job."

Daria Kaleniuk, the co-founder and executive director of the Anti Corruption Action Centre in Kyiv, Ukraine, credited Biden, the International Monetary Fund — which threatened to delay $40 billion in aid for similar reasons — and others with the prosecutor's removal.
"Civil society organizations in Ukraine were pressing for his resignation," Kaleniuk said, "but no one would have cared if there had not been voices from outside this country calling on him to go."

After Shokin left the Prosecutor General's Office, Jan Tombinski, the ambassador from the European Union to Ukraine, called it "an opportunity to make a fresh start."

"I hope," Tombinski said, "that the new Prosecutor General will ensure that the Office of the Prosecutor General becomes independent from political influence and pressure and enjoys public trust."

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raumdeuter: 11:28pm On Feb 17
Obrigardo:


Fúck him and every low quality braindead maga cultists in here. They are the absolute dumbest people in this century.

Just watch these fools make an argument for the rapist trump for this.

I'm gonna re-up my prediction again - the racist trump will die an horrible death by the hands of maga because maga seems to be hurt the most with the rapist's economic wars.
He thinks maga is going to listen to Nazi elon telling them to suck it up for two years.

He was "allegedly" almost killed by assassins (that we never hear of again), both republican and libertarian leaning chuds.

What happened to all your pre election predictions?

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IjeBos(m): 11:41pm On Feb 17
Android17:

The prosecutor was removed. (Fun fact: Trump was impeached first time for withholding aid from Ukraine even though he only threatened to. He still released the money without Ukraine doing what he asked for).

Your posts are always fill so many lies it's hard to hit them all.
It's amazing that someone can write a post that i close to 100% inaccurate. Well done, that's an achievement.

The above is one of many many I found esp. brain dead.

Trump was not just impeached for withholding Military aid. He was impeached for withholding aid for Ukraine for a corrupt motive.
The corrupt motive being he wanted Ukraine to open an investigation into Joe Biden and announce it.
Not necessarily investigate, just announce they were opening an investigation. (It's no surprise that shortly after Smirnov made his now false allegations about Joe biden bribery in Ukraine)
In the US Legal system that corrupt motive can separate legal actions from illegal actions.

Recap:
Legal to withhold aid from countries.
Illegal to withhold aid from countries if they don't open an investigation into your political rivals.

It's a minor distinction that requires a little bit of brain power and thought.
No wonder you are having a hard time with it. That thought part seems to be a struggle for you.

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cococandy(f): 1:42am On Feb 18
It hasn’t even been a full month yet

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Android17: 1:45am On Feb 18
IjeBos:


Ahh, so I thought you'd expose me if I posted the court documents? Guess not.
Just another mentally ill rant.
Next you will be talking about how the aliens abducted you as a child... and they all looked like Hunter Biden.

You mean that Smirnov whose allegations were central to the House impeachment of Joe Biden was not central to the Burisma case?
You sound more and more like a nut.
When Basilico has gone silent trying to defend it, you should probably know you've lost.

And it's so odd that you still revive this multiply debunked lie that somehow Biden tried to get the Ukrainian prosecutor fired for investigating his son. It's a lie for particularly stupid people which you seem to be one.
The Ukrainian prosecutor wasn't investigating corruption. Hence why everyone, from the International community to Ukrainians wanted him gone. Joe Biden was just delivering that message which was a bipartisan US message.

I love when people reveal themselves as nuts real time.
The right wing echo machine has done real damage to minds of people like you.
This shit is easy to read and research.
But it's like up is down and left is right.

And fyi, stop trying so hard to sound witty. You're not.
Reading your feigned intelligence is cringe.

IjeDunce, a petition is not a ruling. The petition is the argument made by the DOJ against Smirnov. Read a book or something.

You said Smirnov was central to what case, IjeDunce? He was central to the flimsy DOJ case to exculpate Biden. Not the case to discuss Hunter's laptop and its content. Again, stop pretending you know what the case was about. You're just so poorly put together as a human being if you want to wear a cape for the Biden's, even when you don't know what they did. Something has to be wrong with you mentally. Seriously.

Biden was . . .IjeDunce is trying to tell YOU not to listen to what Biden said even though there is a video online but he will tell you to ignore what Trump actually said, so he will be the Fuhrer they claim he is. Post the video so others can watch it. Then they can decide if they are as stupid as you. Simple.

FYI, 3 things are needed to prove a bribe. The briber, bribee and the objective of the bribe.

Burisma needed the prosecutor off the case. They had the motive to bribe. Hunter was involved with Burisma. He needed the protection of his father. Biden got 10% and needed to protect his son and family name.

Was the prosecutor, removed? Yes. Which means the objective of the bribe was met.

You, silly stupid dummy you, want us to believe the prosecutor was removed at the request of Biden for being corrupt. LOL. It doesn't matter if a prosecutor is corrupt, e-diot. What does that have to do with the laptop content? IjeEdiot.

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bemeruca: 1:52am On Feb 18
cococandy:
It hasn’t even been a full month yet

cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

coco has gone nuts

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Android17: 1:53am On Feb 18
IjeBos:


Your posts are always fill so many lies it's hard to hit them all.
It's amazing that someone can write a post that i close to 100% inaccurate. Well done, that's an achievement.

The above is one of many many I found esp. brain dead.

Trump was not just impeached for withholding Military aid. He was impeached for withholding aid for Ukraine for a corrupt motive.
The corrupt motive being he wanted Ukraine to open an investigation into Joe Biden and announce it.
Not necessarily investigate, just announce they were opening an investigation. (It's no surprise that shortly after Smirnov made his now false allegations about Joe biden bribery in Ukraine)
In the US Legal system that corrupt motive can separate legal actions from illegal actions.

Recap:
Legal to withhold aid from countries.
Illegal to withhold aid from countries if they don't open an investigation into your political rivals.

It's a minor distinction that requires a little bit of brain power and thought.
No wonder you are having a hard time with it. That thought part seems to be a struggle for you.
Not who is always correcting people's posts for errors? Ha ha ha.

I want it on record that I was ashamed I responded to this monstrosity of a post.

First, nobody mentioned military aid.
Second, Trump did not withhold any aids to Ukraine
Third, there was no corrupt motive. He simply told them he knew Joe Biden was colluding with Burisma via Hunter and he wanted the tea otherwise he wouldn't release the funds.

- he did not withhold the funds
- nothing was provided to him about Biden, yet he still released the funds
- as POTUS, he had the rights to withhold those funds
- turns out Biden was colluding with Burisma
- Trump was impeached even though he didn't withhold the funds.
- Biden was protected. First by denying the laptop story. I could go on and on.

Think of it, you deranged Trumpist. Trump was impeached for something Biden ACTUALLY did. But you hate one and defend the other. Shame on you.

Tueh.

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IjeBos(m): 2:22am On Feb 18
Android17:
IjeDunce, a petition is not a ruling. The petition is the argument made by the DOJ against Smirnov. Read a book or something.

Huh?
Holy shit @ this statement.
I can't.
It was a plea agreement that was accepted by the court (Judge) and Smirnov was sentenced to 6 years in jail.
I get why you wanted me to post the Supreme Court ruling on the Student Relief Case now. You have no idea what it is.
You should really stop talking about things you have 0 idea about.
Lol @ telling someone to read a book while spouting off nonsense you are clearly wrong about.

So for the record, you have proven:
- You have 0 idea how the US government works and the role the Supreme Court plays
- You have 0 idea at how Us Courts work and how defendants make deals and are sentenced.
Here, this may help you with some of it:
Courts 101: An Understanding of the Court System
https://ijis.org/wp-content/s/2022/01/ijis_wp_courts_101_understan.pdf

As for the rest of the nonsense in your post.
I can't make any sense of it as it doesn't make sense.
It's clear you have 0 idea or understanding about what you are talking about here either.

Does bullshiting and rambling like this work for you in real life?
IjeBos(m): 2:31am On Feb 18
Android17:

First, nobody mentioned military aid.

Of course you didn't because as I keep saying you're an idiot who doesn't know what you are talking about.
What fuxing type of aid did you think he was withholding, cookies and crackers?
It was military aid approved by congress Ukraine needed to fend off Russia.
Lol.
God you are a dumbass

Trump istration broke law in withholding Ukraine aid, watchdog says as Senate prepares for impeachment trial
The Trump istration broke the law by witholding congressionally approved military aid to Ukraine over the summer “for a policy reason,” a top government watchdog said.
The report by the Government ability Office came a day after the House of Representatives sent articles of impeachment of President Donald Trump to the Senate for conduct related to the withholding of that aid to Ukraine.
Trump held back the funds while pressuring Ukraine’s new president to announce investigations by that country of former Vice President Joe Biden, the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/16/trump-istration-broke-law-in-withholding-ukraine-aid.html

Android17:

Second, Trump did not withhold any aids to Ukraine
Third, there was no corrupt motive. He simply told them he knew Joe Biden was colluding with Burisma via Hunter and he wanted the tea otherwise he wouldn't release the funds.

- he did not withhold the funds
- nothing was provided to him about Biden, yet he still released the funds
- as POTUS, he had the rights to withhold those funds
- turns out Biden was colluding with Burisma
- Trump was impeached even though he didn't withhold the funds.
- Biden was protected. First by denying the laptop story. I could go on and on.

Think of it, you deranged Trumpist. Trump was impeached for something Biden ACTUALLY did. But you hate one and defend the other. Shame on you.

Tueh.

The rest is a reiteration of the nonsense you have been posting ed by nothing.
Do you see the difference between what I do and you do.
You write nonsense, uned by anything but that clearly disturbed mind of yours.
I write posts ed by articles and court documents or things people call facts.

#FactsoverMentallyDeranagedNonense

Android17: 3:06am On Feb 18
IjeBos:


Huh?
Holy shit @ this statement.
I can't.
It was a plea agreement that was accepted by the court (Judge) and Smirnov was sentenced to 6 years in jail.
I get why you wanted me to post the Supreme Court ruling on the Student Relief Case now. You have no idea what it is.
You should really stop talking about things you have 0 idea about.
Lol @ telling someone to read a book while spouting off nonsense you are clearly wrong about.

So for the record, you have proven:
- You have 0 idea how the US government works and the role the Supreme Court plays
- You have 0 idea at how Us Courts work and how defendants make deals and are sentenced.
Here, this may help you with some of it:
Courts 101: An Understanding of the Court System
https://ijis.org/wp-content/s/2022/01/ijis_wp_courts_101_understan.pdf

As for the rest of the nonsense in your post.
I can't make any sense of it as it doesn't make sense.
It's clear you have 0 idea or understanding about what you are talking about here either.

Does bullshiting and rambling like this work for you in real life?
Why were you posting what Smirnov was charged with? What does that have to do with the court's interpretation about how the guilty judgment was arrived at?

Hope you're not deceiving anyone with your antics. It is clear you want nothing to do with the initial argument you started with.

That should teach you to stop commenting on issues that are clearly above your pay grade.

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Android17: 3:15am On Feb 18
IjeBos:


Of course you didn't because as I keep saying you're an idiot who doesn't know what you are talking about.
What fuxing type of aid did you think he was withholding, cookies and crackers?
It was military aid approved by congress Ukraine needed to fend off Russia.
Lol.
God you are a dumbass





The rest is a reiteration of the nonsense you have been posting ed by nothing.
Do you see the difference between what I do and you do.
You write nonsense, uned by anything but that clearly disturbed mind of yours.
I write posts ed by articles and court documents or things people call facts.

#FactsoverMentallyDeranagedNonense
When you are done wasting your own time, you will point out where in my post I called it military aid.

If you cannot, will you accept that you typed rubbish? If I ask you to prove that that aid is exclusively military aid, you will run away. Always indulging in topics that he is clearly at sea with.

Grow up. You sound childish.

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IjeBos(m): 3:21am On Feb 18
Android17:
When you are done wasting your own time, you will point out where in my post I called it military aid.

If you cannot, will you accept that you typed rubbish? If I ask you to prove that that aid is exclusively military aid, you will run away. Always indulging in topics that he is clearly at sea with.

Grow up. You sound childish.

You didn't call it military aid.
But it was military aid. Hence the big issue.
It was military aid intended to help them fend off Russia.
You don't even understand what you are posting on.
Reflect on your own statement on wasting your time.

The Trump istration’s 55-day halt this summer of hundreds of millions of dollars in military assistance and weapons sales to Ukraine was initially unpublicized . What’s now known is that the Defense and State departments, along with an overwhelming majority in Congress, strongly ed assisting Ukraine — a country attempting to fend off Russia’s inroads on its territory.
https://publicintegrity.org/national-security/timeline-how-trump-withheld-ukraine-aid/
IjeBos(m): 3:37am On Feb 18
[quote author=Android17 post=134187973]Why were you posting what Smirnov was charged with? What does that have to do with the court's interpretation about how the guilty judgment was arrived at?

That should teach you to stop commenting on issues that are clearly above your pay grade.[/quote]

It was a plea agreement.
Google 'plea agreement' and you may answer your own quesiton.

Again, take your own advice on "commenting on issues that are clearly above your pay grade".
Android17: 3:39am On Feb 18
IjeBos:


You didn't call it military aid.
But it was military aid. Hence the big issue.
It was military aid intended to help them fend off Russia.
You don't even understand what you are posting on.

You will learn to look both ways before crossing me.

This is culled from your link:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/16/trump-istration-broke-law-in-withholding-ukraine-aid.html

It is called a Security Assistance. And before you say it is merely semantics, this is the disparity between the 2. One is a subset of the other.

So stop trying to feed us waffles for supper. grin

Do you even know why the lying media and retards at CNBC called it military aid? It was to hoodwink foolish people like you. Buahahahahaha. Keep parroting their talking points. You look and read, silly.

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Android17: 3:51am On Feb 18
IjeBos:
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They are all petitions, silly.

The petition, charge, case or argument against Smirnov is brought forward by the prosecutor- DOJ

The person who defends himself against the charge is called the defendant.

It is the defendant (Smirnov) that comes to a plea agreement.

What in the world of mad people are you talking about?

I asked you to post how the court came to sentencing Smirnov for 6 years after finding him guilty. Let's see if he played any role with respect to the laptop and all the other pieces of evidence that linked Biden to Burisma. grin

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IjeBos(m): 4:20am On Feb 18
Android17:
You will learn to look both ways before crossing me.

This is culled from your link:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/16/trump-istration-broke-law-in-withholding-ukraine-aid.html

It is called a Security Assistance. And before you say it is merely semantics, this is the disparity between the 2. One is a subset of the other.

So stop trying to feed us waffles for supper. grin

Do you even know the lying media and retards at CNBC called it military aid? It was to hoodwink foolish people like you. Buahahahahaha. Keep parroting their talking points. You look and read, silly.

This guy is going to die on the hill of semantics he doesn't even understand.
What the fux are you even talking about.
Did you even read the shit you linked?

He blocked two tranches, aid the Defense Department was supposed to deliver and aid the State department was supposed to deliver.
Both tranches were for military spending, thus the military aid.

In June, the Pentagon announced plans to provide $250 million to Ukraine in security cooperation funds for additional training, equipment and advisory efforts to build the capacity of Ukraine’s armed forces. The U.S. State Department separately planned to provide $141 million in aid.
...
The Defense Department’s tranche was set to include sniper rifles, rocket-propelled grenade launchers, counter-artillery radars, electronic warfare detection and secure communications, night vision equipment, and military medical supplies and treatment. The department previously included counter-sniper equipment, Humvees and tactical drones as well.

The State Department funding included $115 million for a broad array of purposes, to buy American-produced weapons through the Foreign Military Financing program, but also to provide advisers and training to boost Ukraine’s NATO interoperability: English language labs, medical equipment and improvised bomb simulators. The funds could also pay for spare parts, sustainment and training for previously purchased U.S. gear.
https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2019/09/25/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-us-aid-package-to-ukraine-that-trump-delayed/

This is going to be my last post on this.
You're following the Bemeruca, Raumdeuter path on this. Gaslighting and lying some more when you get called out for Bullshitting.
You've reached the, "you are an idiot with nothing intelligent to say" level for me.
Android17: 4:27am On Feb 18
IjeBos:


This guy is going to die on the hill of semantics he doesn't even understand.
What the fux are you even talking about.
Did you even read the shit you linked?

He blocked two tranches, aid the Defense Department was supposed to deliver and aid the State department was supposed to deliver.
Both tranches were for military spending, thus the military aid.


https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2019/09/25/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-us-aid-package-to-ukraine-that-trump-delayed/

This is going to be my last post on this.
You're following the Bemeruca, Raumdeuter path on thins. Gaslighting and lying some more when you get called out for Bullshitting.
You've reached the, "you are an idiot with nothing intelligent to say" level for me.

My friend sharrap and stop trying to deflect.

Do you know why it is called a security assistance rather than a military aid?

Do you know why the eediots you listen to at CBNC and the rest of the legacy media conveniently framed it a military aid vs security assistance?

Stop pretending you even understand what is being discussed. I'm talking A and you are bringing up countries to change the topic.

When you find out that the person on the other end knows more than you and can write down everything you know on a mustard seed, learn to shut up.

Like shut the fvck up already.

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IjeBos(m): 4:32am On Feb 18
Android17:
They are all petitions, silly.
Hey dumbfuck, a plea agreement is not a petition.
Noone is petitioning the court for anything.

Android17:

The petition, charge, case or argument against Smirnov is brought forward by the prosecutor- DOJ
The person who defends himself against the charge is called the defendant or plaintiff.
Do you even understand who a plaintiff is in relation to a defendant?
You would be embarrassed to have written this if you had even an iota of understanding what you were talking about.
You continuously write the dumbest shit and smile in your ignorance.

Android17:

It is the defendant (Smirnov) that comes to a plea agreement.

What in the world of mad people are you talking about?

I asked you to post how the court came to sentencing Smirnov for 6 years after finding him guilty. Let's see if he played any role with respect to the laptop and all the other pieces of evidence that linked Biden to Burisma. grin

I've given you everything you need to educate yourself and not sound like a fool.
If you want to continue to sound like a fool that is your business.
If you want to learn about how the US courts work, plea agreements or what really happened in the Biden case, all you have to do is read.
It seems you prefer bullshitting and sounding stupid instead.
basilico: 4:43am On Feb 18
Republican makes the bold announcement . There is a paper trail of money that has been sent out as aid flowing back into Washington to politicians and corruptocrats.

https://x.com/RepTimBurchett/status/1891286347362496561

There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth once DOGE is finally unburdened by what has been.

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Android17: 4:44am On Feb 18
IjeBos:

Hey dumbfuck, a plea agreement is not a petition.
Noone is petitioning the court for anything.


Do you even understand who a plaintiff is in relation to a defendant?
You would be embarrassed to have written this if you had even an iota of understanding what you were talking about.
You continuously write the dumbest shit and smile in your ignorance.



I've given you everything you need to educate yourself and not sound like a fool.
If you want to continue to sound like a fool that is your business.
If you want to learn about how the US courts work, plea agreements or what really happened in the Biden case, all you have to do is read.
It seems you prefer bullshitting and sounding stupid instead.
Can you show where I said a plea agreement is a petition?

Funny enough. Thanks for helping me catch the error in my post. Yes. I just meant the defendant defends himself against the charge, petition, argument brought. So he is the one that signs the plea agreement. Not the plaintiff or prosecutor.

See, it is easy for me to it my mistakes because they are rare and inconsequential.

Now tell us why you presented a plea agreement as evidence in Hunter's defense? Do you see why I told you your arguments are circular and dumb?

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IjeBos(m): 4:51am On Feb 18
Android17:

Do you know why it is called a security assistance rather than a military aid?
Do you know why the eediots you listen to at CBNC and the rest of the legacy media conveniently framed it a military aid vs security assistance?
Stop pretending you even understand what is being discussed. I'm talking A and you are bringing up countries to change the topic.
I assume Fox NEws is legacy media as well...
But we all can see how well listening to "non legacy media" is working out for you
😂😂😂😂😂

Android17:

When you find out that the person on the other end knows more than you and can write down everything you know on a mustard seed, learn to shut up.
Like shut the fvck up already.

Why would I shut up when schooling you is soo much fun?
Are you not embarrassed yet?

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