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forgiveness: 9:43am On Feb 06
chrisooblog:
Yes where are Ajagun and Kayode these days? grin


At 31 years old, are you still expecting miracles from them? That 31 years fit bi football age.

Nevertheless, did they have a decent career or not?

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Amedino99(m): 10:01am On Feb 06
forgiveness:


At 31 years old, are you still expecting miracles from them? That 31 years fit bi football age.

Nevertheless, did they have a decent career or not?
ajagun has had a very underwhelming career to be honest. Kayode at least played for girona and is in turkey but ajagun's own was not decent at all.

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forgiveness: 10:15am On Feb 06
Amedino99:
ajagun has had a very underwhelming career to be honest. Kayode at least played for girona and is in turkey but ajagun's own was not decent at all.

Underwhelming career from winning NPL with Dolphin straight to Panathinaikos to Eredivisie to Belgium pro league, considering he played as an Attacking midfielder, right?

Show me one Nigerian Attacking midfielder in his era that had a better career.
Amedino99(m): 11:16am On Feb 06
forgiveness:


Underwhelming career from winning NPL with Dolphin straight to Panathinaikos to Eredivisie to Belgium pro league, considering he played as an Attacking midfielder, right?

Show me one Nigerian Attacking midfielder in his era that had a better career.
your measurement of a decent career is too low please. look at it from a general angle not from his peers. Four years in Greece with 67 appearances is not decent at all.
ChrisKels: 11:20am On Feb 06
forgiveness:
Mbappe vs Iheanacho debate was in 2016/2017 season and Mbappe was far better but some people blinded with sentiment thought otherwise.

I could they called me names because of that. Now, let us look back and see now all the players I vouched for. From Lookman, Dele, Simon, Ajagun, Solanke, Eze, etc did they not have a good career?

Well, me no dey do sentiments. By the grace of God, I go soon establish football academy in few months time. Na free but based on your talent. grin

When I tell dem about Nwakali and Iheanacho, dem think say I bi hater. grin

Those boys are indeed talented but they have areas that showed they can't really achieve greater height.

Some of you are really funny. So, others were wrong about Iheanacho and you were right about the names you reeled out? So, which of those names have had a better career than Iheanacho?

you said Dele Alli was better than Iwobi, but where are those two today?

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ChrisKels: 11:27am On Feb 06
forgiveness:


Underwhelming career from winning NPL with Dolphin straight to Panathinaikos to Eredivisie to Belgium pro league, considering he played as an Attacking midfielder, right?

Show me one Nigerian Attacking midfielder in his era that had a better career.

Ajagun and Nwakali have had same career trajectory.

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chrisooblog: 11:49am On Feb 06
Hasn't Iheanacho had a decent career too yet you're dragging him.

forgiveness:


At 31 years old, are you still expecting miracles from them? That 31 years fit bi football age.

Nevertheless, did they have a decent career or not?

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zuchyblink(m): 12:02pm On Feb 06
Iheanacho's secondary school classmates are 33 this year. I don't want to get into that discussion now because of his career.
kingphilip(m): 12:13pm On Feb 06
zuchyblink:
Iheanacho's secondary school classmates are 33 this year. I don't want to get into that discussion now because of his career.
Wow that's an intelligent observation.

So during your secondary school - if you attended one- all of you in class were agemates?

I am not siding his age neither do I know his actual age as I am neither his parents or siblings but this your logic be as e get. It is either you no think am well or you need to exercise your brain more.

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andrewbaba44: 12:23pm On Feb 06
zuchyblink:
Iheanacho's secondary school classmates are 33 this year. I don't want to get into that discussion now because of his career.

There is nothing to discuss

We know a lot of things here ,either we say it or not it won’t affect iheanacho career ,he has been successfully already and made a lot of money grin
TheGoodJoe(m): 12:26pm On Feb 06
Karlovich:
Don't forget "Onyekuru is more intelligent than Mahrez" hype too.

Iheanacho is older than Mbappe with over 2 years, it was the the season shortly before the 2018 World Cup and I the argument persisting here.

It was only during the tournament and subsequently that everyone making such claims had to face reality. Even then Mbappe had more goals than Iheanacho at club level with Monaco.

Iheanacho stats at Man City: 64app 21 goals
Mbappe stats at Monaco: 60app 27 goals

Yet to some Iheanacho was deadlier.

Very funny.

Are you comparing the minutes played? Mbappe was playing virtually all games while Iheanacho was having cameo appearances in a lot of games. I we had players like Bony, later Negredo, and still Aguero. I think Jovetic was also in that window. So with the minutes Iheanacho was playing, he was putting good numbers.

Using appearances is just to runaway from the fact.

No one said Iheanacho was better. It was about his finishing which was rated high by even foreign papers.

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TheGoodJoe(m): 12:27pm On Feb 06
zuchyblink:
Iheanacho's secondary school classmates are 33 this year. I don't want to get into that discussion now because of his career.

Not true.

Iheanacho in 2010 and 2016 with Coach Ahmed Yusuf.


cc: kingphillip, andrewbaba44

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Napoleon55(m): 12:38pm On Feb 06
kingphilip:

Wow that's an intelligent observation.

So during your secondary school - if you attended one- all of you in class were agemates?

I am not siding his age neither do I know his actual age as I am neither his parents or siblings but this your logic be as e get. It is either you no think am well or you need to exercise your brain more.
Beside his unfounded claims,
we all saw Iheanacho from Nigeria U15 junior team,and he went through MRI screening.
This argument about Iheanacho age does not worth it,if Iheanacho's age was tampered by 1 or 2 yrs which is highly unlikely, it's by his sponsors.
The Iheanacho and Nwakali's set were truly young.

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jihday(m): 12:39pm On Feb 06
maidaboi:
that season it was merited

Mbappe = Monaco
Nacho = Man city

abegggg
Mujtahida: 1:35pm On Feb 06
GMBOFASIA:
Another wonderful goal by boniface sometimes I wonder if it same boniface that plays for super eagles
To score for Nigeria hard am sha
forgiveness: 1:57pm On Feb 06
chrisooblog:
Hasn't Iheanacho had a decent career too yet you're dragging him.


Iheanacho's case is not about having a decent career but the unnecessary hype.
forgiveness: 2:00pm On Feb 06
ChrisKels:


Some of you are really funny. So, others were wrong about Iheanacho and you were right about the names you reeled out? So, which of those names have had a better career than Iheanacho?

you said Dele Alli was better than Iwobi, but where are those two today?

Dele Ali was far far better than Iwobi.
forgiveness: 2:02pm On Feb 06
Amedino99:
your measurement of a decent career is too low please. look at it from a general angle not from his peers. Four years in Greece with 67 appearances is not decent at all.

Who told you he spent 4 seasons in Greece? This one dey use wikipedia to get his information. grin

My measurement of decent players can't be compared to hypers.

My record here is here for all to see.
forgiveness: 2:06pm On Feb 06
ChrisKels:


Some of you are really funny. So, others were wrong about Iheanacho and you were right about the names you reeled out? So, which of those names have had a better career than Iheanacho?

you said Dele Alli was better than Iwobi, but where are those two today?

Apart from Ajagun, are you kidding me about the rest? grin


You people should be apologizing to me by now for calling me names. Shame no de catch una? grin

Even Aina wey dem curse me for still dey do well.

Me no dey do sentiment for football. I watch players closely before given my own verdict.
Karlovich: 3:03pm On Feb 06
TheGoodJoe:


Very funny.

Are you comparing the minutes played? Mbappe was playing virtually all games while Iheanacho was having cameo appearances in a lot of games. I we had players like Bony, later Negredo, and still Aguero. I think Jovetic was also in that window. So with the minutes Iheanacho was playing, he was putting good numbers.

Using appearances is just to runaway from the fact.

No one said Iheanacho was better. It was about his finishing which was rated high by even foreign papers.
So Iheanacho had better finishing but was still on the bench and getting less games at Man City, while Mbappe will also be on the bench at City at the same period. How did that work out for him after moving to Leicester and during the 2018 World Cup with his deadly finishing?

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TheGoodJoe(m): 3:33pm On Feb 06
Karlovich:
So Iheanacho had better finishing but was still on the bench and getting less games at Man City, while Mbappe will also be on the bench at City at the same period. How did that work out for him after moving to Leicester and during the 2018 World Cup with his deadly finishing?

I personally was one who kicked against Iheanacho going to Leicester City because of their style of play. I believed it would not suit him, coupled with Jamie Vardy at the club.

And yes, Mbappe would have been on the bench at that time if he was at Manchester City. It was a very tough team then for youngsters. Even Bernado Silva who was also astonishing at Monaco benched for a while at Manchester City.

By the way, Iheanacho was up against Aguero and Negredo. I wonder how you expect a youngster to get steady run of games against such players.

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chrisooblog: 3:34pm On Feb 06
What's unnecessary hype about a player who bar Ighalo and Osimhen is the SE highest goal scorer over the past 9-10 years?

forgiveness:


Iheanacho's case is not about having a decent career but the unnecessary hype.

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andrewbaba44: 3:42pm On Feb 06
TheGoodJoe:


Not true.

Iheanacho in 2010 and 2016 with Coach Ahmed Yusuf.


cc: kingphillip, andrewbaba44

Oya nah no wahala
Karlovich: 3:47pm On Feb 06
TheGoodJoe:


I personally was one who kicked against Iheanacho going to Leicester City because of their style of play. I believed it would not suit him, coupled with Jamie Vardy at the club.

And yes, Mbappe would have been on the bench at that time if he was at Manchester City. It was a very tough team then for youngsters. Even Bernado Silva who was also astonishing at Monaco benched for a while at Manchester City.

By the way, Iheanacho was up against Aguero and Negredo. I wonder how you expect a youngster to get steady run of games against such players.
Negredo only spent one season at Man City 2013/2014 and Iheanacho wasn't there. He only had Aguero ahead of him at the start of 2016/2017 season until Jesus was signed in January 2017. The season before that he had Aguero and Bony in 2015/2016. Mbappe will certainly have been able to bench Bony and Jesus at the time and would certainly have had higher numbers.

Mbappe also had Falcao who had just returned from disappointing spells with Man Utd and Chelsea to compete with yet got games and both led Monaco to the league title before Mbappe left for PSG.
comodo: 4:18pm On Feb 06
TheGoodJoe:


Not true.

Iheanacho in 2010 and 2016 with Coach Ahmed Yusuf.


cc: kingphillip, andrewbaba44
You dey mind peeps wey dey engage in Akuko mama ngozi na ndi yard.

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charlesemeka85(m): 4:21pm On Feb 06
ChrisKels:


Some of you are really funny. So, others were wrong about Iheanacho and you were right about the names you reeled out? So, which of those names have had a better career than Iheanacho?

you said Dele Alli was better than Iwobi, but where are those two today?
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TheGoodJoe(m): 4:23pm On Feb 06
Karlovich:
Negredo only spent one season at Man City 2013/2014 and Iheanacho wasn't there. He only had Aguero ahead of him at the start of 2016/2017 season until Jesus was signed in January 2017. The season before that he had Aguero and Bony in 2015/2016. Mbappe will certainly have been able to bench Bony and Jesus at the time and would certainly have had higher numbers.

Mbappe also had Falcao who had just returned from disappointing spells with Man Utd and Chelsea to compete with yet got games and both led Monaco to the league title before Mbappe left for PSG.

Falcao was washed up and Mbappe was playing as a side forward. Falcao was never in contention to keep Mbappe on the bench. Mbappe was a regular in Monaco and Monaco is not Manchester City.

Either way, we had Jesus Navas, Kevin De Bruyne, Mahrez, Sterling, Sane. At that time, these were established stars and a young Mbappe would not have walked in and kept any on the bench. the squad still had David Silva that would make the starting 11. While Iheanacho still had Aguero to deal with. I am just restricting the window to Guardiola's first two seasons.

Mbappe would have never had a regular starting 11 at City. In that first few seasons of Guardiola, because I was walking with Pellegrini's window. Mbappe would never have walked in.

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Karlovich: 4:38pm On Feb 06
TheGoodJoe:


Falcao was washed up and Mbappe was playing as a side forward. Falcao was never in contention to keep Mbappe on the bench. Mbappe was a regular in Monaco and Monaco is not Manchester City.

Either way, we had Jesus Navas, Kevin De Bruyne, Mahrez, Sterling, Sane. At that time, these were established stars and a young Mbappe would not have walked in and kept any on the bench. the squad still had David Silva that would make the starting 11. While Iheanacho still had Aguero to deal with. I am just restricting the window to Guardiola's first two seasons.

Mbappe would have never had a regular starting 11 at City. In that first few seasons of Guardiola, because I was walking with Pellegrini's window. Mbappe would never have walked in.
It's obvious you don't know what you are talking about, did Mahrez play with Iheanacho at Man City? Were DeBryne, Sane, Sterling and Jesus Navas playing as center forwards from Man City.

So all of them ed City and benched the deadly Iheanacho such that he couldn't get game time .

First it was Negredo now you are deflecting.
TheGoodJoe(m): 4:55pm On Feb 06
Karlovich:
It's obvious you don't know what you are talking about, did Mahrez play with Iheanacho at Man City? Were DeBryne, Sane, Sterling and Jesus Navas playing as center forwards from Man City.

So all of them ed City and benched the deadly Iheanacho such that he couldn't get game time .

First it was Negredo now you are deflecting.

I am talking about Mbappe not walking into Manchester City starting eleven.
TheGoodJoe(m): 4:57pm On Feb 06
Karlovich:
It's obvious you don't know what you are talking about, did Mahrez play with Iheanacho at Man City? Were DeBryne, Sane, Sterling and Jesus Navas playing as center forwards from Man City.

So all of them ed City and benched the deadly Iheanacho such that he couldn't get game time .

First it was Negredo now you are deflecting.

The fact is that the Mbappe Stats has to do with him being a regular, and Iheanacho was not a regular. Even the debate of him breaking into the starting eleven or not is even a deviation from the point.

The point is that the debate was Iheanacho was a better finisher than Mbappe, not a better player. With the minutes he had, he was having healthy scoring stats.

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TheGoodJoe(m): 5:00pm On Feb 06
Karlovich:
It's obvious you don't know what you are talking about, did Mahrez play with Iheanacho at Man City? Were DeBryne, Sane, Sterling and Jesus Navas playing as center forwards from Man City.

So all of them ed City and benched the deadly Iheanacho such that he couldn't get game time .

First it was Negredo now you are deflecting.
Iheanacho was not a regular. Mbappe was a regular, so you can not use that as criteria. The point of Iheanacho's praise was minutes to goal ratio, which was high.

It is you that actually deflected with Mbappe would have started and Iheanacho not performing at Leceister.
TheGoodJoe(m): 5:03pm On Feb 06
Karlovich:
Iheanacho stats at Man City: 64app 21 goals
Mbappe stats at Monaco: 60app 27 goals


Yet to some Iheanacho was deadlier.

The bolded is the point of the debate. Mbappe was a regular and had far more minutes than Iheanacho. Iheanacho's appearances was with far less minutes.

When it came to converting chances, the point was that at that time, many believed Iheanacho was better at it. The stats ed that.

Finito.

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