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maiunguwar:
The core northern states are battling with desert encroachment, there land can only produce millet and sorghum, crops that require two or three months of rainfall annually and una they compare with south a tropical rainforest that can produce a host agricultural products.Make una thank God for Nigeria,una for be like una sahelian neighbors

how about Erosion trying to wipe out Biafra

wizelink:


Kindly provide evidences, official statistical data if possible to your assertion.
You can't just be in the comfort of your room and be making unsubstantiated claims.

Am from The North and I assert I never depend on anything food crop produce in the south.
Simple look round your kitchen your will see food crop produce In the North even na Onion

Educationalserv:
I know your worship oyinbo.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/30/world/europe/cooking-oil-shortage-ukraine.html&ved=2ahUKEwj9qOyujP2KAxWAUUEAHf7cNmMQFnoECCsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1MXS40Fs36ftP7JHZ5az2F

What has what you sent me have to do with health benefits of palm oil or sunflower oil?

Educationalserv:
name how it will effect person in the North ? The most less diverse location in Nigeria

The south is the market for northern produce, remove this market and see the northern farmers become paupers overnight.They must sell those perishables fast enough or they get spoilt.The man with cash has his options.Obasanjo government once allowed the importation of beans from Burkina Faso and the northern middle men that hoarded beans suffered immense losses

maiunguwar:
The south is the market for northern produce, remove this market and see the northern farmers become paupers overnight.They must sell those perishables fast enough or they get spoilt.The man with cash has his options.Obasanjo government once allowed the importation of beans from Burkina Faso and the northern middle men that hoarded beans suffered immense losses

off topic Consolations

Educationalserv:
how about Erosion trying to wipe out Biafra

Erosion is mostly an urban man-made problem because of inadequate drainage it doesn't really affect the hinterland where agriculture takes place

Educationalserv:
Am from The North and I assert I never depend on anything food crop produce in the south.
Simple look round your kitchen your will see food crop produce In the North even na Onion

This is termed self righteousness. You dey your house come dey speak for another. Let me inform you that my family and I depend comfortably solely on our numerous farms. So stop making unsubstantiated statements. Good bye

Educationalserv:
I Challenge Any person to Name any Food Crop since morning no body
Personally I have any eaten any food Crop Produce in the south and sold in the North

I assume you are from the North.I can tell you that the North is the most blessed region by the size of its land.The region is far best region to live and raise a family. I am an Abusite.The northerners are more accommodating. The reason you have more igbos thr.Though some times we had religious crises which was never triggered by northerner Muslims.
I know the northerner states more than other state because I am kaduna boy.
The unfortunate thing happened which was insecurity as a result of boko haram .The northern leaders shouldn't have allowed boko haram and by extension insecurity have that strong hold in the North to gain politicallyThe person who sold that idea did the north worst thing. I how you could travel from kd-zaria-giwa-katsina-zamfara-sokoto or you go towards brinin kebbi all the way to kamba the border
Then zaria- makarifi-Kona dangora-garda tamparawa -kano
Kaduna-panbaqwa-saminaka Jos divert to bauchi--then the corner corner road to gombe -adamawa
Brenin gwari -tegina-niki to kwara .You go to these places without fear.We go to remote villages to buy farm products. You sleep and eat without envy like you see in the SW and and sometimes in the east


All the North needs is align with SE to take back nigeria from SW President and break the monopoly of lagos. The revenue should come to the center Abuja for equity sharing. Move all company head quarters to abj.Decentralize the see port and airports to different regions. Have good dry port for all imports heading kano.All oil companies head office moved to the centre..abj.Why should bank head offices be in lagos when more business transactions happen up north.The foreign embassies should move to the center,Abuja.

Then restore the good old days of North for proper farming and animal husbandary.I am igbo but born and raised in the north

ElSudani:


Palm oil sign of poverty? Then the north truly has a long way to go.
Anyway, tons of palm oil are still going up north as we speak. What you do with it is your business.

You're missing his point, though he did exaggerate.

He's saying the North could probably live without palm oil; maybe the main buyers up North are Southerners who moved there and some businesses.

Could the South do without food from the North? I doubt it.

Yeah, the South grows some food, but not nearly enough for its huge population.

Educationalserv:
off topic Consolations

You guys should really thank your stars , Northern Nigeria would have exactly turned out like Niger republic.There is no human or natural resources to sustain a productive population

You're right

I witness this myself with my eyes because it's my field

I always wonder how they cultivate same plot of land and it's still fertile.

I noticed they use fertilizer more in the North anyway

Bandirao:
yes but if you study geography you will know that not is more fertile lend me tell you some geographical facts that proves north is more fertile.
* the tropical rain forest is good and very fertile in it virgins due to heavy leaf fall and accumulated humus but it yields deteriorate rapidly due to the heavy rain off that washed away minerals especially since the soil is mainly Ferralitic, this is we the common farming in the rain forests is shifting cultivation unlike in the savanna grasslands were farmers cultivated the same plot of land for generations with little need to shift,due to the fact that the savanna rainfall is seasonal and also the plains are flooded with silt waters during rainy season and the dust laden harmattan and bush fires greatly brought out minerals to the farmers

maiunguwar:
The Igbos have been attempting to break this evil country since time immemorial so you aboki people can have your onions, tomatoes and disease infected cows to una self but una no gree.The mention of Biafra they give una sleepless night.In life there is always an alternative to any and everything.We can do without the north

You people are educated but you lack wisdom. You don't know when to observe and when to attack or defend. You always get involved in everything and turn around to cry that you are hated. Learn to exercise restraint!

Educationalserv:
the North don't depend on Palm oil for any thing . They why it dead cheap . Compare to ororo .
Depend mean if no Plam oil there be not oil soup in North
Palm oil is very a sign a poverty up North
Wealthy Northern eat low cholesterol vegetable oil , soya bean oil and sun flowers oil

See you.
The soaps
The animal feed and plenty more.
Oga palm oil is way more expensive in the north than in the south.

Streetinvestor2:
I assume you are from the North.I can tell you that the North is the most blessed region by the size of its land.The region is far best region to live and raise a family. I am an Abusite.The northerners are more accommodating. The reason you have more igbos thr.Though some times we had religious crises which was never triggered by northerner Muslims.
I know the northerner states more than other state because I am kaduna boy.
The unfortunate thing happened which was insecurity as a result of boko haram .The northern leaders shouldn't have allowed boko haram and by extension insecurity have that strong hold in the North to gain politicallyThe person who sold that idea did the north worst thing. I how you could travel from kd-zaria-giwa-katsina-zamfara-sokoto or you go towards brinin kebbi all the way to kamba the border
Then zaria- makarifi-Kona dangora-garda tamparawa -kano
Kaduna-panbaqwa-saminaka Jos divert to bauchi--then the corner corner road to gombe -adamawa
Brenin gwari -tegina-niki to kwara .You go to these places without fear.We go to remote villages to buy farm products. You sleep and eat without envy like you see in the SW and and sometimes in the east


All the North needs is align with SE to take back nigeria from SW President and break the monopoly of lagos. The revenue should come to the center Abuja for equity sharing. Move all company head quarters to abj.Decentralize the see port and airports to different regions. Have good dry port for all imports heading kano.All oil companies head office moved to the centre..abj.Why should bank head offices be in lagos when more business transactions happen up north.The foreign embassies should move to the center,Abuja.

Then restore the good old days of North for proper farming and animal husbandary.I am igbo but born and raised in the north

Your contribution has zero correlation with the topic.

LivingSage:
You're right

I witness this myself with my eyes because it's my field

I always wonder how they cultivate same plot of land and it's still fertile.

I noticed they use fertilizer more in the North anyway

yes organic fertilisers from livestocks, in the past when farmers and herders are in peace farmers leave the stalks in the farms for Fulani cows which feeds and drops organic fertilisers in the farms and almost every Hausa rural homes have alot of goats and few cattles their manures also help a lot and what is more northern farmers practiced crop rotation mixed farming crossing grains like Guinea corn with legumes like beans or groundnuts it was an ancient custom that was later found to have scientific advantages the grains consume a lot of nitrogen while the legumes have nitrogen fixating bacteria in their root nodules which balance the farms.

This is the more reason we should de-almagamate. The regions are self sufficient,
we're not one people in aspirations

Educationalserv:
I Challenge Any person to Name any Food Crop since morning no body
Personally I have any eaten any food Crop Produce in the south and sold in the North

Educationalserv:
the North don't depend on Palm oil for any thing . They why it dead cheap . Compare to ororo .
Depend mean if no Plam oil there be not oil soup in North
Palm oil is very a sign a poverty up North
Wealthy Northern eat low cholesterol vegetable oil , soya bean oil and sun flowers oil

Palm oil , a sign of poverty?
I can now see where the problem of the north started from.

A very acutely poor region fight tax reform calling a very vital source of forex exchange via export a sign of poverty means the north has a mindset issue.

CodeTemplarr:
Can the parasites farm if they dont get N1Tr in intervention yearly? Answer that?

we are farming long before the advent of oil money or even one Nigeria.
Below is the groundnut pyramids in the north I challenge you to show me an equivalent of it down south

maiunguwar:
The core northern states are battling with desert encroachment, there land can only produce millet and sorghum, crops that require two or three months of rainfall annually and una they compare with south a tropical rainforest that can produce a host agricultural products.Make una thank God for Nigeria,una for be like una sahelian neighbors

you are not a good student of geography other wise you will know that desert encroachment is artificial man-made due to felling of trees and that too much rain in the south is more a disaster rather than a blessing.

Educationalserv:
Sir Ojukuw snr Became a billionaire selling Palm oil in Kano to trade internationally to Chad , Cameron,Niger
We have grounds pyramids and 1000s of oil mills we prefer groundnutoil and soya bean oil
Palm oil can be used in soap making
We don't depend on it . DEPEND ! LIKE YOUR DEPEND ON ONION NO ALTERNATIVE

Onions, tomatoes, cows and other farm products can easily be grown in the south lands in the southern region are more fertile than ur lands up north. Your leaders who knew better than you knows that it's almost impossible for you guys up north to survive alone without southern resources that's why they are vehemently opposed to either division or restructuring of nigeria.

Educationalserv:
1 hour No Single Educated Southerners that claim the North is parasite can Name a single food Item the North Depends on the South For

Just 1
A Comedian even Name kolanut ..

You must be really deluded if u think the more fertile lands in the south can't grow whatever farm produce u grow up north southerners are not into farming because their lands are very rich in oil and gas which the whole country depends on. Take ur crops and allow the south to be on their own and see if the south will lack or miss ur farm products whatever they lack can easily be imported from other countries with money from their booming economy.

Educationalserv:
I Challenge Any person to Name any Food Crop since morning no body
Personally I have any eaten any food Crop Produce in the south and sold in the North

We produce your best delicacy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Goro, Gbanja Abata, Kolanut

Mrexcell:





You must be really deluded if u think the more fertile lands in the south can't grow whatever farm produce u grow up north southerners are not into farming because their lands are very rich in oil and gas which the whole country depends on. Take ur crops and allow the south to be on their own and see if the south will lack or miss ur farm products whatever they lack can easily be imported from other countries with money from their booming economy.

Ekiiti rich in oil as Gas just hearing

benzion72:


We produce your best delicacy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Goro, Gbanja Abata, Kolanut

kolanut is not Food crop

Consumables going from south to North is also plenty. Kola nuts, oranges, palm kernel oil, palm oil and etc. We also import food. Whatever the south gets from the North is paid for by what the North gets from the south.

Onions does very well in Edo State.

Jorussia:
I just went through your ridiculous previous thread.Let me speak of Edo State which is where i am from.Every food that comes from the north can be grown here in Edo State.Tomstoes,Potatoes, Watermelon, Cucumber, Beans, Rice,Yams etc can be grown here in Edo State.I know for a fact that we have home grown cattles in orhionmwon LGA that is bigger than your malnutriched cattles from the north.Na only onion I can't confirm if it can be grown here.Yes the north offers nothing to Nigeria as a country.Boys for Niger Delta cause wahala for the for some time,but everybody enter house for the sake of the country.But una own since 2008 boko haram bandits,killer herdsmen,una nor want rest.

I even 20years ago for my house here for Benin city,nor be village o, we dey plant beans for our compound and the beans grow well.even hausa ground nut full everywhere.Groundnut dey Edo North,Rice nor be problem for Edo State,the state govt just need to partner private sector for Rice mill.Common Tax reform Aboki dey make noise everywhere,what if the govt come say make we do birth control and 60% resource derivation wetin una go come do? Una go burn down the country?

Educationalserv:
which South? The one fellow southerner recently sold a chicken for at 30k for xmas or the South Yoruba president is appointmenting only Yorubas to position will be good over night .no na over mornings
You have Millions of Owomida harassing your lives in Lagos then overnight it will disappear

What was that got to do with VAT?

The south that contributes over 90% of the money that goes into the Federation to be shared to the states to fund the budget of the Northern States and Local Government Areas?

Is Kano State budget funded from the proceeds of Tomato and onions sales or remittances from Cow receipts?

Again what has all that crap got to do with VAT ?

lawani:
Consumables going from south to North is also plenty. Kola nuts, oranges, palm kernel oil, palm oil and etc. We also import food. Whatever the south gets from the North is paid for by what the North gets from the south.

Food crop .when kolanut turn Crop ? palm oil sold to Millions of southerners up North is not a menu in Average Northern Man Foods
Oranges Benue North is the Main supplier in Nigeria

Gajagojo:
What was that got to do with VAT?

The south that contributes over 90% of the money that goes into the Federation to be shared to the states to fund the budget of the Northern States and Local Government Areas?

Is Kano State budget funded from the proceeds of Tomato and onions sales or remittances from Cow receipts?

Again what has all that crap got to do with VAT ?

please give us Data that show it? Federal = Firs Collection+ Custom Duty + Income Taxes + Mineral Tax + Vat + Privatizing proceeds + Loans + Recovery fund .

Red oil, Kola nut, Garri, cashew and the nut, cocoa etc

Educationalserv:
please give us Data that show it? Federal = Firs Collection+ Custom Duty + Income Taxes + Mineral Tax + Vat + Privatizing proceeds + Loans + Recovery fund .

None of those things come from tomatoes or Onions which is the topic of this thread so that diversionary tactic will only work with illiterates like you

So you acknowledge that your onions and Tomato contribute Zero to the Federation ?

Good

On this thread we are discussing VAT and agriculture of which the North contributes next to nothing e.g there is data that 10 states in the North
10 Northern states contribute N13.69bn to VAT pool — allocated N59.17bn in August 2024

https://tribuneonlineng.com/10-northern-states-contribute-n13-69bn-to-vat-pool-allocated-n59-17bn-in-august-2024/



YOU ARE PARASITES

Bandirao:
we are farming long before the advent of oil money or even one Nigeria.
Below is the groundnut pyramids in the north I challenge you to show me an equivalent of it down south

When you were farming did you share the proceeds with us in the south?

It is your business

What we are saying is let everybody mind his business and control his groundnuts

Continue your farming and keep the proceeds

If we make money from breweries let us keep the proceeds