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monerozi5590: 7:37am On Jan 08
Isak is very much good on the ball. He can find his way out even in tight/close spaces.

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BlueRayDick: 7:48am On Jan 08
Kimbeast:
A player with over 200games as a left winger has suddenly become a striker. This guy needs to stop polluting this thread with his insane takes.
That's why I was asking him if he actually knows the player or he just checked Transfer market website and started calling him a striker.
Griffon: 7:57am On Jan 08
Oyarzabal a striker?

Victor Ikpeba-esque analysis grin

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drisham(m): 8:12am On Jan 08
I have said it a lot of times football have changed any average bum can score goals
But the quality in play has dropped


Which Is why you'll find many wingers these days with more goals than hazard but does it mean they were better than hazard?

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drisham(m): 8:12am On Jan 08
monerozi5590:
Isak is very much good on the ball. He can find his way out even in tight/close spaces.

A proper striker he is
popizaino(m): 8:33am On Jan 08
BlueRayDick:


You are confusing urself as per the bolded . Is the job of a striker not to put the ball at the back of the net ?

Which other irrelevant quality are u looking for in a striker if ur striker already does the job of putting the ball at the back of the net more often than old school striker does? Is it until the striker scores acrobatic goals every week or the striker scores zidane vs Leverkusen kinda volley every week ?

I don’t even understand . Una wan judge strikers of different eras and una no gree accept goals as metrics for measuring their performances , neither do u agree to use stats . So we should all rely on ur personal conviction of “Trust me bro , I no fit lie give u? “

Do you realise that there are some tiny details that determines goals,like goalkeeper playing out from the back in these has caused so many errors leading to cheap goals for some of this recent attackers?
Do you also realise that 4-4-2 formation was the common and preferred formation with most teams,were the goal scoring duty are shared by two strikers unlike now which is one.

The scoring more of recent strikers is not due to anything but this fact below that Strikers before now were scoring something out of nothing. Unlike Strikers now who scores out of something and even missing alot along.

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BlueRayDick: 8:43am On Jan 08
popizaino:


Do you realise that there are some tiny details that determines goals,like goalkeeper playing out from the back in these has caused so many errors leading to cheap goals for some of this recent attackers?
Do you also realise that 4-4-2 formation was the common and preferred formation with most teams,were the goal scoring duty are shared by two strikers unlike now which is one.

The scoring more of recent strikers is not due to anything but this fact below that Strikers before now were scoring something out of nothing. Unlike Strikers now who scores out of something and even missing alot along.




So u are just realizing the bolded abi? Were u not here last week when we mentioned that teams have since abandoned the traditional 4-4-2 formation for more modern formation that allowed for more the team to depend on not just the strikers for goals but also full backs, midfielders, and wingers?

As regards ur talk about errors due to playing from the back leading to more goals for strikers, u will need to provide stats to back that assertion up. U can't just assert without showing workings.
iamoyindamola(m): 8:57am On Jan 08
Griffon:
Oyarzabal a striker?

Victor Ikpeba-esque analysis grin
Stop na😂😂😂
DeeScan: 9:08am On Jan 08
Realtord43:
King James "ing Range and Creativity is not up to Alnold" una.

https://x.com/19_emmak/status/1874540317892137009?t=97aMHLDZ0c0bJucqvaJikQ&s=19


why is there still an argument on this .. if na defending you talk nw, we for say you get point but ing range and creativity.. No oo, nw...
DeeScan: 9:10am On Jan 08
PDPGuy:
Liverpool will miss Salah sha! Without his overall work rate, goals and assists, I bet Liverpool would be hustling for 7th position
lets watch and see ...
DeeScan: 9:12am On Jan 08
Kimbeast:

Stop waffling. Trent is competing with Odegaard and Palmer when it comes to creativity and ing not even James.
what do you mean competing with, those two are competing with him not the other way round...
popizaino(m): 9:33am On Jan 08
BlueRayDick:


So u are just realizing the bolded abi? Were u not here last week when we mentioned that teams have since abandoned the traditional 4-4-2 formation for more modern formation that allowed for more the team to depend on not just the strikers for goals but also full backs, midfielders, and wingers?

As regards ur talk about errors due to playing from the back leading to more goals for strikers, u will need to provide stats to back that assertion up. U can't just assert without showing workings.

I am of the opinion that you can still use 4-4-2 to your own advantage. 4-3-3 is not the only formation to winning or scoring more goals if you know what you are doing as a coach.

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BlueRayDick: 9:42am On Jan 08
popizaino:


I am of the opinion that you can still use 4-4-2 to your own advantage. 4-3-3 is not the only formation to winning or scoring more goals if you know what you are doing as a coach.

There are various formations coaches use nowadays that have rendered 4-4-2 obsolete.

While u have 4 players in midfield using 4-4-2, the teams using 4-5-1, 4-2-3-1, 3-4-2-1, etc will overload midfield and overwhelm ur players . Nobody will tell u to ditch 4-4-2 when u see that ur two front men rarely get served becuase ur 4 midielders lose the midfield battle almost at every point in the game.
Ibime(m): 10:36am On Jan 08
swiz123:
Make una forgive BlueRayDick. Mentioning modern strikers outscoring older strikers when Havertz, Jesus and recently Nketiah are his team's strikers points to nothing but PTSD.

Get over yesterday's loss and look forward to a brighter future. If you ever need anyone to talk to to ease your pain, you can inbox me.

Shey Havertz no be generational player to you again? I will take this as your ission of being a generational mumu

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swiz123(m): 10:38am On Jan 08
Ibime:


Shey Havertz no be generational player to you again? I will take this as your ission of being a generational mumu

Aturu Awusa.

Is Havertz a striker?

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Ibime(m): 10:40am On Jan 08
swiz123:


Aturu Awusa.

Is Havertz a striker?

He's a generational flop as a midfielder everywhere he went with his only redeeming quality being an average striker, so you are only compounding your foolishness. Which team will accept Havertz as midfielder in this day and age. You were scammed and bamboozled by Leverkusen who played him as a striker most times and scammed the world by selling him to be a goalscoring midfielder. He has zero skillset of a midfielder

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popizaino(m): 10:58am On Jan 08
BlueRayDick:


We are saying the same thing . Benin knows that if u want to export goods from Nigeria to Ivory Coast through sea or air border it will cost u a fortune so they know u would opt for land boarder which requires u to through Benin before getting to Ivory Coast from Nigeria .

Knowing how poor they are as a country , they decide to eat out of whatever profit u intend to make exporting ur goods to Ivory Coast ; so they come up with all sorts of levies, taxes and duties on those goods .

You are right that they are exploiting u as a businessman but u can’t blame them for trying to lookout for themselves out of ur potential profit . Business is war . Irrespective of AFCTA, they still need to generate revenue for their government .

Should a country's law supercede regional law?
Ballzproblem2: 11:00am On Jan 08
This transfer window boring I dey forget most timees.
BlueRayDick: 11:34am On Jan 08
popizaino:


Should a country's law supercede regional law?

Most countries don't just adopt international treaties/agreements just like that. Most countries would have to make the international treaty through their legislature before such international treaties/agreements becomes law in their country.

I don't have an inkling about the Legal frame work/legal system of Republic of Benin as it concerns trade agreements in the West African region, but I won't be surprised if their local laws don't agree with some of those trade agreeements. Maybe that's why u get smooth age of goods through other countries within the corridor while the opposite is the case in Benin.
BlueRayDick: 11:36am On Jan 08
Ibime:


He's a generational flop as a midfielder everywhere he went with his only redeeming quality being an average striker, so you are only compounding your foolishness. Which team will accept Havertz as midfielder in this day and age. You were scammed and bamboozled by Leverkusen who played him as a striker most times and scammed the world by selling him to be a goalscoring midfielder. He has zero skillset of a midfielder

Havertz is not even generational anything ;He's just an average player

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Kimbeast: 12:04pm On Jan 08
BlueRayDick:

That's why I was asking him if he actually knows the player or he just checked Transfer market website and started calling him a striker.
Even transfermarkt will show you he is predominantly a left winger that has been used in other positions.

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Altern8tor: 12:19pm On Jan 08
Kimbeast:

Liverpool will have to lose 6matches and City will have to win all their games till the end of May. It's over for 115charges.
If Liverpool draw 9 Matches nko grin cheesy
swiz123(m): 12:31pm On Jan 08
Ibime:


He's a generational flop as a midfielder everywhere he went with his only redeeming quality being an average striker, so you are only compounding your foolishness. Which team will accept Havertz as midfielder in this day and age. You were scammed and bamboozled by Leverkusen who played him as a striker most times and scammed the world by selling him to be a goalscoring midfielder. He has zero skillset of a midfielder

Take your trash and feed it to your low IQ sheep. Havertz was solid for Arsenal as a midfielder and above average as a false 9. He is not a striker and I am sure you can see that clearly even in your foolishness.

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BlueRayDick: 12:51pm On Jan 08
swiz123:


Take your trash and feed it to your low IQ sheep. Havertz was solid for Arsenal as a midfielder and above average as a false 9. He is not a striker and I am sure you can see that clearly even in your foolishness.

Each time Havertz plays in midfield in Arsenal colors he plays rubbish ; he's an average false 9 at best.

If you dispute this, please mention 5 games u watched him play for Arsenal as a midfielder and he was solid.

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drisham(m): 1:00pm On Jan 08
Kimbeast:

Even transfermarkt will show you he is predominantly a left winger that has been used in other positions.

Someone that I him flanking isak and sorloth at a point is who they are calling a striker

Nawa
Unlimited22: 1:08pm On Jan 08
airmark:



Nothing like moving on from using a striker, Spain were not stupid by taking two strikers to the Euros despite their average qualities.

Spain were drawing the match until a striker scored the winner for them where it mattered most - final.


Mikel Oyarzabal, a striker?

Haba now

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swiz123(m): 1:10pm On Jan 08
BlueRayDick:


Each Havertz plays in midfield in Arsenal colors he plays rubbish ; he's an average false 9 at best.

If you dispute this, please mention 5 games u watched him play for Arsenal as a midfielder and he was solid.

Havertz plays rubbish in midfield but somehow, Arsenal's midfield was solid and miles better than Chelsea's in 2023. Continue backstabbing your players just to conform to a baseless opinion.
Unlimited22: 1:13pm On Jan 08
swiz123:


Havertz plays rubbish in midfield but somehow, Arsenal's midfield was solid and miles better than Chelsea's in 2023. Continue backstabbing your players just to conform to a baseless opinion.

Lol my guy. No allow stanship choke your neck.
There's a reason Havertz has been chased away from midfield at every club he's played in

So Havertz played the whole midfield alone to make Arsenal's midfield better than Chelsea's own?

Haba now, my guy

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Unlimited22: 1:14pm On Jan 08
drisham:


Someone that I him flanking isak and sorloth at a point is who they are calling a striker

Nawa
Maybe one day in the future, because of what's happened this season and last one, we will be making arguments and someone will call Diogo Jota and Luis Díaz strikers.

Based on how City played pré-Haaland someone will hold on to it and call Raheem Sterling a striker.

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Ballzproblem2: 1:23pm On Jan 08
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BlueRayDick: 1:24pm On Jan 08
swiz123:


Havertz plays rubbish in midfield but somehow, Arsenal's midfield was solid and miles better than Chelsea's in 2023. Continue backstabbing your players just to conform to a baseless opinion.

This ur submission just shows u don't watch Arsenal matches grin

Havertz made Arssenal midfield solid? Lmao grin grin grin grin

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BlueRayDick: 1:29pm On Jan 08
Unlimited22:


Lol my guy. No allow stanship choke your neck.
There's a reason Havertz has been chased away from midfield at every club he's played in

So Havertz played the whole midfield alone to make Arsenal's midfield better than Chelsea's own?

Haba now, my guy

Lolz.

Let him be whining himself. He said Havertz made Arsenal midfield solid cheesy; Somebody that was chased upfront to allow real midfielders do their job while he feeds off their hardwork. Sometimes he will still play shot directly at goalkeeper after those ones must have toiled in midfield and set him up to score cheap goals. The Same Havertz that can't even well; in fact he doesn't have the ing ability of any of our midfielders. Wingers like Trossard even play midfield better than Havertz the so called solid midfielder.

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