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@ElasmoBranchii

Thanks for your response. You've made my day.

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@imustsaymymindo

Thanks for your response.

ElasmoBranchii:


Which is why I said physically attractiveness doesn't rank high for women. What's more important to them is how you behave during pregnancy (whether the child is yours or not) and after pregnancy.
Women marry because that's the best option she has at the moment that can at least fulfill a part of her dual mating strategy

While we are on the same page with most sides of your assertions, especially the hypergamous and polygamous strategies, I feel the need to stress some points on the physical attractiveness side of things.

IMO, physical attractiveness and other possible traits that can be ed down in genes rank high for women majorly for the alpha f*cks side of things. It may not rank in marriage, or any form of exclusive relationship that is not just sex only, because women would oftentimes do that with the betas. Now both betas and alphas can be physically attractive, but women don't have any need for the physical attractiveness of a beta - they only need its bucks(security, provisioning, protection).

Same logic - qualities such as confidence, charm, responsibility, etc. are also qualities a beta who is fulfilling his beta bucks side of things could also possess. There are betas with confidence and charm and even could be better at taking responsibility.

So...Things just get easier when we rather define Alphas this way:

Alpha - the guy that every girl wants to f*ck, and every guy wanna be.

When you see it this way you'd understand physical attractiveness is important for women in their alpha f*cks i.e. any form of physicalities that makes every girl wanna f*ck him and every guy wanna be him e.g. muscles, height, whatever. The other esoteric things such as confidence, charms, etc come from options - being chosen by many - from abundance majorly, maybe also having the abundance mindset(the foundation of game).

Even though the Alpha possesses confidence which is nice to women - women don't need it tbh, the betas at the end of the day do most of the job of provisioning and protecting. The alpha's job is to f*ck and good genes. Physical attractiveness can be ed, those esoteric things like confidence and charm are not directly ed, but of course, can be an output of what was ed. For instance, someone with good genetic physical traits can't have confidence ed to him but could be confident as a result of physical attributes that was ed to him.

imustsaymymindo:


While we are on the same page with most sides of your assertions, especially the hypergamous and polygamous strategies, I feel the need to stress some points on the physical attractiveness side of things.

IMO, physical attractiveness and other possible traits that can be ed down in genes rank high for women majorly for the alpha f*cks side of things. It may not rank in marriage, or any form of exclusive relationship that is not just sex only, because women would oftentimes do that with the betas. Now both betas and alphas can be physically attractive, but women don't have any need for the physical attractiveness of a beta - they only need its bucks(security, provisioning, protection).

Same logic - qualities such as confidence, charm, responsibility, etc. are also qualities a beta who is fulfilling his beta bucks side of things could also possess. There are betas with confidence and charm and even could be better at taking responsibility.

So...Things just get easier when we rather define Alphas this way:

Alpha - the guy that every girl wants to f*ck, and every guy wanna be.

When you see it this way you'd understand physical attractiveness is important for women in their alpha f*cks i.e. any form of physicalities that makes every girl wanna f*ck him and every guy wanna be him e.g. muscles, height, whatever. The other esoteric things such as confidence, charms, etc come from options - being chosen by many - from abundance majorly, maybe also having the abundance mindset(the foundation of game).

Even though the Alpha possesses confidence which is nice to women - women don't need it tbh, the betas at the end of the day do most of the job of provisioning and protecting. The alpha's job is to f*ck and good genes. Physical attractiveness can be ed, those esoteric things like confidence and charm are not directly ed, but of course, can be an output of what was ed. For instance, someone with good genetic physical traits can't have confidence ed to him but could be confident as a result of physical attributes that was ed to him.

Okay if I understand correctly, in your opinion, the alpha f*ck side of the equation is mostly about physical attractiveness while the other three qualities don't matter as much right? Well I can only agree with you if you can explain why women shit test?

Also what do you think Rollo meant by "Women would rather share an alpha male than be with a faithful beta male"

Why do women start seeking betas just around the time alphas are no longer interested in messing around with them?

Secondly one thing you should understand is it's not how a man looks that makes him alpha. It's how he behaves. You said it yourself that both an alpha male and a beta male can be physically attractiven which is true. What separates them is their behavior and attitude.

It's is of my opinion that no man can possess all those three characteristics and still be a beta male. Most people who are seen as alpha in any sector in life exhibit this characteristics in that sector e.g very successful C.E.O, leaders, very wealthy business men etc. but it doesn't mean they have those characteristics when it comes to women. They just have those characteristics in their line of work that's why they are seen as alphas there.

Also when I say "Responsibility" I don't mean financial responsibility I think I mentioned that before.

"Alpha - the guy that every girl wants to f*ck, and every guy wanna be"

This statement alone contains many things that at first are not at obvious to the eyes.

For example why do you think this quote didn't include " and a guy that wants to f*ck other girls"? Was it a coincidence or was he trying to tell you where the line is?

You might have the intention to f*ck other girls but the moment you say it with your mouth you have failed. You can demonstrate but don't tell. That's where the "Charming" quality comes in. Women want you to have standards but they also want to fit into those standards so they can feel special. When you decide to pay attention to her when you could have decided to give it to someone else.

This is why sometimes women give shit test like
"I bet you say that to other girls" or "How many girls have you slept with" once they suspect you are a player and you fail once you give them an honest answer.

That's why it's better to frame things as other girls are chasing you than for you to frame it as you are chasing other girls.

Honestly my thoughts are all over the place and it's not easy to break all this things down over text so let me just pause here. I'm not sure I'm mentally able to touch on all the things you said in just one post.

ElasmoBranchii:


Honestly my thoughts are all over the place and it's not easy to break all this things down over text so let me just pause here. I'm not sure I'm mentally able to touch on all the things you said in just one post.

Yes. It's kinda all over the place. You kinda brought different perspectives in this last post that I would have loved to align with the original physical attractiveness discussion better - or maybe it is because it is through text like you said.

imustsaymymindo:


Yes. It's kinda all over the place. You kinda brought different perspectives in this last post that I would have loved to align with the original physical attractiveness discussion better - or maybe it is because it is through text like you said.

Ask specific questions let me see what I can do.

imustsaymymindo:


Yes. It's kinda all over the place. You kinda brought different perspectives in this last post that I would have loved to align with the original physical attractiveness discussion better - or maybe it is because it is through text like you said.

Like for example I asked why do you think women shit test or do you think they don't shit test alphas too.

A product stress test is a method of testing a product's reliability and resilience by subjecting it to controlled, accelerated stresses.

It's like after creating Adam, God sat down and said to himself:

Now that I've created man, how do I stress test him? Ah, yes! A woman

ElasmoBranchii:


Like for example I asked why do you think women shit test or do you think they don't shit test alphas too.

Women shit-tests constantly to know where to place you in the hypagamy. Either as the beta bucks or Alpha f*cks.

There are alphas who have becomes beta, most times in marriage or relationships, and shit testing helps to constantly know which part you are on in the current run to know how to deal with you.

So to answer your question. Women shit test anything alpha, beta, omega lol. It's just a tool that helps the hypergamous ideal. Just as men can use dread or other tools to aid their abundance or polygamous ideal.

So my question now would be, how do you relate this to the original topic on physical attractiveness?

ElasmoBranchii:


Okay if I understand correctly, in your opinion, the alpha f*ck side of the equation is mostly about physical attractiveness while the other three qualities don't matter as much right? Well I can only agree with you if you can explain why women shit test?

Yes bro. Alpha f*cks is about her physical needs - f*cking. So the man's physicalities matter.
Beta bucks is about her non-physical needs: provisioning, security, , jokes, and any other one you can think of....

imustsaymymindo:


Women shit-tests constantly to know where to place you in the hypagamy. Either as the beta bucks or Alpha f*cks.

There are alphas who have becomes beta, most times in marriage or relationships, and shit testing helps to constantly know which part you are on in the current run to know how to deal with you.

So to answer your question. Women shit test anything alpha, beta, omega lol. It's just a tool that helps the hypergamous ideal. Just as men can use dread or other tools to aid their abundance or polygamous ideal.

So my question now would be, how do you relate this to the original topic on physical attractiveness?

I'm not really satisfied with your answer.
If alpha f*ck is really based only on physical attractiveness, why do women need to shit test men when physical attractiveness is pretty obvious, as in you know when someone is fine or not. You don't need to do a test for that.

Why does she shit test men when she is in her alpha f*ck phase? After all, in your opinion, she is just looking for someone with good genes. If she is just looking for a guy with good genes why does she need to shit test him especially when she hasn't seen him with other women.

Why does physical attractiveness in male (apart from facial structure) mostly consist of broad shoulders, deep voice, v-taper, height (mostly things that evolutionarily shows that he can provide) why not fat ass, sexy hips, soft voice etc?

ElasmoBranchii:


I'm not really satisfied with your answer.
If alpha f*ck is really based only on physical attractiveness, why do women need to shit test men when physical attractiveness is pretty obvious, as in you know when someone is fine or not. You don't need to do a test for that.

Why does she shit test men when she is in her alpha f*ck phase? After all, in your opinion, she is just looking for someone with good genes. If she is just looking for a guy with good genes why does she need to shit test him especially when she hasn't seen him with other women.

Why does physical attractiveness in male (apart from facial structure) mostly consist of broad shoulders, deep voice, v-taper, height (mostly things that evolutionarily shows that he can provide) why not fat ass, sexy hips, soft voice etc?

You lost me here, bro. Still don't see the shit test connection. I can't speak further on this.

imustsaymymindo:


You lost me here, bro. Still don't see the shit test connection. I can't speak further on this.

Let me be sure we are on the same page. Did you read the initial post I wrote that prompted Martinez to ask me those questions?

ElasmoBranchii:


Let me be sure we are on the same page. Did you read the initial post I wrote that prompted Martinez to ask me those questions?

I did bro. I even gave you a like on it.

Because I liked how you corrected Jeshal, I think, on dual-mating strategy Vs mate-switching. I also liked how you made it clear about some things like money that can't explicitly make you alpha. And my point is those things plus many other things including physical attractiveness, confidence,charm etc. doesn't make you alpha/Beta neither. In short - No particular thing or trait makes you Alpha/Beta. Both worlds have men with those traits.

The simple definition - Alpha- every girl wanna f, every guy wanna be.

Whatever trait that makes you fit this definition - good for you. Be it money, muscles, game.

But physical attractiveness even though doesn't explicitly make you alpha is very important to fulfil the Alpha f*cks side of things - which is f*cking and ing good genes. So obviously, it is important to women when optimizing Alpha f*cks.

The things that make alpha as always been a source of argument amongst the manosphere and even the females have their definition which kinda align with the whole confidence,charm, and responsibility tbh. So the whole shit-tests texts which then followed the confidence, charm thing as the basis of alpha misplaced me.

When I tell you people men are the problem some clowns will want to argue , below is a picture of the credit alert a woman on twitter received just because one man wanted to get her attention, Men will keep inflating the egos of women with acts like this and then wonder why women are disrespectful, when you keep treating these women like they are the prize they will have no option than to see themselves that way.

jayAjoku:
When I tell you people men are the problem some clowns will want to argue , below is a picture of the credit alert a woman on twitter received just because one man wanted to get her attention, Men will keep inflating the egos of women with acts like this and then wonder why women are disrespectful, when you keep treating these women like they are the prize they will have no option than to see themselves that way.

I can't believe it.
Is that not 1 million naira.
Wow. Just to have sex or us it love with a woman.
ABA Maybe it is a lie and the oerson just made it up. 1 million just to get a strangers attention.
Dangote sef no dey spend like rgat on top woman.
I refuse to believe its true

Philosopher1979:


I can't believe it.
Is that not 1 million naira.
Wow. Just to have sex or us it love with a woman.
ABA Maybe it is a lie and the oerson just made it up. 1 million just to get a strangers attention.
Dangote sef no dey spend like rgat on top woman.
I refuse to believe its true

Some men do more than this* especially in Nigeria. Where do you guyz think most of the nations looted funds go to.

I don't have a problem with what anybody does with his money but to go and use public funds on top these lads is another level of foolishness that has to be studied.

Some men(lecturers) go to the extent of threatening ladies with an F if they don't oblige to their advances. Some deny qualified ladies to get a job if no knacks.

Some deny qualified men to give unqualified women work because of knacks.

There's on popular hookup site like that. I don't want to mention name. You need to see the high price tag those girl's put.

I ran some experiment and guess what? When I asked for short time quickies from 50/100K and above quotation at first; quoted 10K, to them obliging and wanting to come for the 10K after we've video called, establishing social trust and giving off an aura of high value. Depending on how you go about it some can even come for free. Finally, left their chats on read and they pinging back to what seem like I have lost interest already. And truly I did. Perhaps in the future I may hit them again. I'm pretty sure a lot of guyz have been parting with that amount. Why won't hookup culture become mainstream since they've made it lucrative. Like they said, if demand is high price will be high.

Simps are a big problem to the world. To hookup industry, to dating pool, to marriages, to institutions, to public funds and to the entire society.

Simps see marriage as a "I love you forever" kinda shit.
Women see marriage as a business proposal
She has to settle down with just one guy after years and years of having fun.
In her mind, that's her sacrificing a lot for the greater good however for the main time,she it as love.

Marriage in itself is a contract,a business dealing between two parties.
Problem occurs when you misunderstand the basic concept of marriage and start mixing business with pleasure, involving feelings which almost never ends well.

To the woman: Man do your part, I'll behave myself.
To the man: Woman do your part, I'll comply (although for the men ,they most times sacrifice more bcuz they're simps obviously)

Anyways,the analogy is one of a business frame.

The question is why mix love with business?


When you don't meet up her expectations, which is more frequent than not, she'll opt for the next best thing that'll make her feel alive.

If you understand you're g a contract with a woman,then you won't go wailing about when she shows you shege.

But most men don't get the idea, they've been conditioned to think it's a forever happy ending.
The blowback is as tantamount as their level of delusion.

Anyways we'll all be alright one way or the other except the SIMPle guys of course, those guys never learn.

Philosopher1979:


I can't believe it.
Is that not 1 million naira.
Wow. Just to have sex or us it love with a woman.
ABA Maybe it is a lie and the oerson just made it up. 1 million just to get a strangers attention.
Dangote sef no dey spend like rgat on top woman.
I refuse to believe its true

lol 😂 bro Niggas are actually doing stuff like this , you no know say thirsty boys plenty and they have the ways and means.

JESHAL007:

This is the reason women have a lot of sex with their boyfriends/fiances but once the dotted lines are signed, sex dwindles.

hopefulLandlord:
...

You'll soon be told it's data from the matrix.

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Lolz

Streak47:


Some men do more than this* especially in Nigeria. Where do you guyz think most of the nations looted funds go to.

I don't have a problem with what anybody does with his money but to go and use public funds on top these lads is another level of foolishness that has to be studied.

Some men(lecturers) go to the extent of threatening ladies with an F if they don't oblige to their advances. Some deny qualified ladies to get a job if no knacks.

Some deny qualified men to give unqualified women work because of knacks.

There's on popular hookup site like that. I don't want to mention name. You need to see the high price tag those girl's put.

I ran some experiment and guess what? When I asked for short time quickies from 50/100K and above quotation at first; quoted 10K, to them obliging and wanting to come for the 10K after we've video called, establishing social trust and giving off an aura of high value. Depending on how you go about it some can even come for free. Finally, left their chats on read and they pinging back to what seem like I have lost interest already. And truly I did. Perhaps in the future I may hit them again. I'm pretty sure a lot of guyz have been parting with that amount. Why won't hookup culture become mainstream since they've made it lucrative. Like they said, if demand is high price will be high.

Simps are a big problem to the world. To hookup industry, to dating pool, to marriages, to institutions, to public funds and to the entire society.

So painful, bro. Some also do these things as a means to launder stolen funds.

This thread has been a lot less lively as of late, but quite helpful nonetheless. Perhaps it just reflects the hardships being experienced in these periods and, to be honest, if things aren't getting better then things are likely to get worse. Even outside the country things aren't rosy.

But every cloud has a silver lining - and men are not made from good times. Suffering is not sweet, but it is necessary. To quote renowned psychologist Sigmund Freud:
"One day, in retrospect, the years of struggle will strike you as the most beautiful."

Many didn't get to see the earth make a full revolution around our sun, but here we are kicking and hale. That alone is worth being thankful for.
To all the comrades, around and scarce:
Skepticus Martinez39s heartofcity12 Streak47 JESHAL007 Karlifate Philosopher1979 Smartb0y emmaodet Lordisaac Elasmobranchii luminouz ubunja Pukkalolo RedpillAdviser traware Kipaji bashiii etcetera.

This 2025 is to the strength for what we want and perseverance to keep aiming for it.

Happy New Year.

@ Elasmobranchii Are you done with your playful banter post? Please do tag me if you drop it.

Tonnyray:
You'll soon be told it's data from the matrix.

Lmao! I this what they say when they can't counter someone's point (s)

Streak47:


Some men do more than this* especially in Nigeria. Where do you guyz think most of the nations looted funds go to.

I don't have a problem with what anybody does with his money but to go and use public funds on top these lads is another level of foolishness that has to be studied.

Some men(lecturers) go to the extent of threatening ladies with an F if they don't oblige to their advances. Some deny qualified ladies to get a job if no knacks.

Some deny qualified men to give unqualified women work because of knacks.

There's on popular hookup site like that. I don't want to mention name. You need to see the high price tag those girl's put.

I ran some experiment and guess what? When I asked for short time quickies from 50/100K and above quotation at first; quoted 10K, to them obliging and wanting to come for the 10K after we've video called, establishing social trust and giving off an aura of high value. Depending on how you go about it some can even come for free. Finally, left their chats on read and they pinging back to what seem like I have lost interest already. And truly I did. Perhaps in the future I may hit them again. I'm pretty sure a lot of guyz have been parting with that amount. Why won't hookup culture become mainstream since they've made it lucrative. Like they said, if demand is high price will be high.

Simps are a big problem to the world. To hookup industry, to dating pool, to marriages, to institutions, to public funds and to the entire society.

You are right. Simps are the bane of the earth. I have seen men do way more than that. I have seen an oyinbo simp pay 50k dollars for a woman's pee, her bath water and her spit. One paid another woman 1k dollars to shiit on him. That's why it's good as a man to not be judgemental when talking to ladies and they will reveal so much than you imagine.

Imagine paying a woman to shiit on you, when the shiit is even free.

But the Ajoku nigga is still capping bullshhiiit...by not making women take responsibility. That mûmû girl could have returned that money but she kept it...so she is a hoe and is priced as one.

JESHAL007:
Lolz

Facts!!!

Dizzyyish:
This thread has been a lot less lively as of late, but quite helpful nonetheless. Perhaps it just reflects the hardships being experienced in these periods and, to be honest, if things aren't getting better then things are likely to get worse. Even outside the country things aren't rosy.

But every cloud has a silver lining - and men are not made from good times. Suffering is not sweet, but it is necessary. To quote renowned psychologist Sigmund Freud:
"One day, in retrospect, the years of struggle will strike you as the most beautiful."

Many didn't get to see the earth make a full revolution around our sun, but here we are kicking and hale. That alone is worth being thankful for.
To all the comrades, around and scarce:
Caveadullam Skepticus Martinez39s heartofcity12 Streak47 JESHAL007 Kalrifate Philosopher1979 Smartb0y emmaodet Lordisaac Elasmobranchii luminouz ubunja Pukkalolo RedpillAdviser traware Kipaji bashii etcetera.

This 2025 is to the strength for what we want and perseverance to keep aiming for it.

Happy New Year.

Thanks bro ... We are hopeful for the new year....

Dizzyyish:
This thread has been a lot less lively as of late, but quite helpful nonetheless. Perhaps it just reflects the hardships being experienced in these periods and, to be honest, if things aren't getting better then things are likely to get worse. Even outside the country things aren't rosy.

But every cloud has a silver lining - and men are not made from good times. Suffering is not sweet, but it is necessary. To quote renowned psychologist Sigmund Freud:
"One day, in retrospect, the years of struggle will strike you as the most beautiful."

Many didn't get to see the earth make a full revolution around our sun, but here we are kicking and hale. That alone is worth being thankful for.
To all the comrades, around and scarce:
Caveadullam Skepticus Martinez39s heartofcity12 Streak47 JESHAL007 Kalrifate Philosopher1979 Smartb0y emmaodet Lordisaac Elasmobranchii luminouz ubunja Pukkalolo RedpillAdviser traware Kipaji bashii etcetera.

This 2025 is to the strength for what we want and perseverance to keep aiming for it.

Happy New Year.

Thanks bro....wishing us all the very best of the new year!

When you are broke, DON'T date a broke girl, work on your hustle and get that money......when you get rich, DON'T also date a broke girl. That is the game 🎯

AlphaNugget:
When you are broke, DON'T date a broke girl, work on your hustle and get that money......when you get rich, DON'T also date a broke girl. That is the game 🎯

Ok sir