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Zionmdde:

If they agreed with you then, by now they will need to change battery

Solar can never be cheaper than steady power supply from discos, not to talk of stability. November to February can be good for solar s, what of the rest of the year?

I have been using my system since 2020.

Not changed a thing

Mynd44:

I have been using my system since 2020.

Not changed a thing

Do you run absolutely off grid or is the solar a back up. Because if it's back up, then it can last several years without any changes

Zionmdde:

If they agreed with you then, by now they will need to change battery

Solar can never be cheaper than steady power supply from discos, not to talk of stability. November to February can be good for solar s, what of the rest of the year?

Investing in solar is one of the best investments anyone can make in Nigeria. If you’re living in Nigeria with all these solar energy wasting yet you don’t have solar, then that person isn’t smart at all.

I have been using solar since 2018 at my home. I upgraded in 2021 to tubular batteries and since then it has been serving perfectly. I only add distilled water to it periodically.

Nigerians aren’t as smart as they assume they are. If it’s Oyibo that lives in this country with all the sun and low grid supply, every single house would have been covered with solar s.

starpower:
solar no high na people one do themselves. I pump, use freezer, fridge, fan. I made sure my consistent loads no 400W/hr at night. Solar does most of the powering during the day. Some a buying car of 14m and have no solar. 5m will, 2.5m can do this. I understand under privileged ones buy middle class with my house. Will spend 10m and do 30kilowat storage and 10kw solar array. I don't use nepa since 2012.

i work for one man house for umuahia ...that house he spend over 500 million ...but when e reach time to do inverter e put 10kva Indian inverter and about 8 tubular battery ...when they load only all the lights e de read over 6kw....only lighting points....house wey get 21 AC

MrEverest:


Investing in solar is one of the best investments anyone can make in Nigeria. If you’re living in Nigeria with all these solar energy wasting yet you don’t have solar, then that person isn’t smart at all.

I have been using solar since 2018 at my home. I upgraded in 2021 to tubular batteries and since then it has been serving perfectly. I only add distilled water to it periodically.

Nigerians aren’t as smart as they assume they are. If it’s Oyibo that lives in this country with all the sun and low grid supply, every single house would have been covered with solar s.

Please, do you have an estimate of what the cost would be like now?

Zionmdde:

If they agreed with you then, by now they will need to change battery

Solar can never be cheaper than steady power supply from discos, not to talk of stability. November to February can be good for solar s, what of the rest of the year?

you will mix them...

MrEverest:


Investing in solar is one of the best investments anyone can make in Nigeria. If you’re living in Nigeria with all these solar energy wasting yet you don’t have solar, then that person isn’t smart at all.

I have been using solar since 2018 at my home. I upgraded in 2021 to tubular batteries and since then it has been serving perfectly. I only add distilled water to it periodically.

Nigerians aren’t as smart as they assume they are. If it’s Oyibo that lives in this country with all the sun and low grid supply, every single house would have been covered with solar s.

You tend to misunderstand my point

Now the topic is customers complaining about high tariff (not fuel or diesel ooo). And the advice was "invest in solar"

Now if you use solar as back up, then the advice is not applicable here. Unless you are asking the person to go completely off grid. And I know in places like aba, SE and SS, you will suffer with solar because you can go 4 days of constant rain

swagifted:
you will mix them...

Very good
Now look at the topic, and look at the advice to invest in solar, does it relate?

Note: these guys are kot complaining of fuel and diesel, but power supply

Zionmdde:

Very good
Now look at the topic, and look at the advice to invest in solar, does it relate?

Note: these guys are kot complaining of fuel and diesel, but power supply

depending on only one source of energy this days is too risky in any climate

Zionmdde:

That's a lie in cases where power supply in the area is up to 20hrs per day. Whether long run or short run. You can do the math yourself

Chief

Over a 15 year period solar is cheaper.

Before you say something is a lie, ask for the person's perspective

Zionmdde:

If they agreed with you then, by now they will need to change battery

Solar can never be cheaper than steady power supply from discos, not to talk of stability. November to February can be good for solar s, what of the rest of the year?

You are looking at it from the wrong perspective.
Agreed that most will likely change batteries now had they agreed with him then, the overall cost of the setup will still be far more less than using power from disco. Also factor that they will not be affected by grid breakdown or faulty transformers which may warrant them to use generators as backup.

Using myself as a case study, I have been on solar for 4years counting, though I must say my batteries are not as optimal as when they were new, I still get 24hr supply keeping my sun down load to 400w. but when sun is up, I use all appliance in my house with reckless abandonment

Even if there is need to change my batteries today, I will gladly do without looking back, and those are even tubular batteries. If I go lithium, worries on batteries will be less as it has a longer life span.

Zionmdde:

Alright your 1st paragraph might be correct.
But the second paragraph can only be believed by someone who doesn't use solar

I use solar, and I know that during the wet season, your solar cannot comfortably take you non stop for 3days. And please don't mention the capacity of inverter, most people install based on their required capacity. So if I install like 2 5kvA, I mean it cannot take my intended load for 2 days non stop

So solar is good, but solar is mostly a back up to power supply

I talk of daily use. On the second note, who uses power non-stop for 3 days? Maybe some do. Even for grid power, I don't use it non-stop for 2 days even when it's available. Your assertion connotes round-the-clock.

I know I use my solar 16 hours with juice still left before I switch it off to go and sleep. It can be a backup power supply as well as off-grid power supply. It's your choice.

Mynd44:
I when I told close friends like 3 years ago to go solar when solar installments were quite cheap. They laughed it off.

Now petrol and diesel prices are high, power cost is also high but the price for solar installations is also high.

Nigerians are one of the most short-sighted people ever. It cost me only N200,000 to install a 3- solar, with inverters, batteries and all in 2018. It would cost about 2.8m to have the same installation done today.

Nigerians you lots done see beyond your nose.

I can accurately predict what Nigeria would be like in the next 10years, but I give advise based on that, they will laugh it off and then cry when reality hits them 10 years from now.

MemphitzDgreat1:

Please, do you have an estimate of what the cost would be like now?

No, I don’t know how much it would cost now that inflation is over the roof.

As for the June /July deep raining season, you may have a point, but then let's tell ourselves the truth also when you said 4 days of consistent rain. Fine, but is it not the time when discos too often do anyhow...poles or some faults happen often due to storm, etc. 3 days, light no go dey. Then people will say dem dey dry wire (I no hear that one before).

Anyway, they both have their pros and cons, especially in a country like Nigeria or the US areas that are prone to hurricanes and tsunamis.

Dalohad:


Nigerians are one of the most short-sighted people ever. It cost me only N200,000 to install a 3- solar, with inverters, batteries and all in 2018. It would cost about 2.8m to have the same installation done today.

Chai, what an inflation! I could have invested in it instead of buying a gen at the time.

Proudlyngwa:


Chief

Over a 15 year period solar is cheaper.

Before you say something is a lie, ask for the person's perspective

15years too far oga, In less than 5 years the cost of power from grid at band A will nil out the initial setup cost of any solar installation.

SULBELL:


15years too far oga, In less than 5 years the cost of power from grid at band A will nil out the initial setup cost of any solar installation.

I was being economical

I got the smaller solar of 300k early last year for my wife's shop to carry just fan and 50w TV/decoder plus gadget charging during intense sunlight and only light points during evening time and I have saved a lot.

MY shop Nepal bill is 5k, which I do pay, but don't need to, because I can equally get blocks for drinks at 300naira

5k times 12months times 5 years is that 300k and the light is very not constant.

B4 now I spent minimum of 2k on gas or fuel at least five times a week, 4k on oil and changed half engine every six months.

That is why I said Solar is very Cheap, but not affordable.

tunjijones:
I thought aba has 24 hours electricity supply. Why am I now seeing comments contrary to this.

When igbos finish deceiving and lying to themselves, that's when real progress will begin in south east.

I’m in this same Aba, and there has actually been light over 24 hours during the holidays.

Infact, there was interrupted power from Thursday or Friday, till yesterday evening.
And upon return, there has been light since last night till now.

Ask anyone who stays close to the teaching hospital how the light has been this holidays. 🙏

Zionmdde:

You tend to misunderstand my point

Now the topic is customers complaining about high tariff (not fuel or diesel ooo). And the advice was "invest in solar"

Now if you use solar as back up, then the advice is not applicable here. Unless you are asking the person to go completely off grid. And I know in places like aba, SE and SS, you will suffer with solar because you can go 4 days of constant rain

I’m talking about Nigerians generally, not you. Yes, I’ve been off the grid totally since I installed my solar. It carries everything in my home except AC. Fans, fridge, freezer, solar iron, blender, washing machine etc. It carries all.

Even during rainy season there are no issues, you only mind your usage of appliances. during rainy season freezers get chilled faster and also retains ice, same with fan that won’t need much pressure to rotate since air is less dense at this time. Also, your s would be free of dust thus maximizing solar charge input. It’s only during the “7 days” around June/July that you will be affected.

My brother, any home or business that ain’t using solar in Nigeria aren’t smart. Except they can’t afford it.

Since they wanted to increase tariff, I expected them to meter every 🏠 instead of going on estimated bill which the NERC has seriously warned them about. Pulling the cart before the horse copied from BAT syndrome

SULBELL:


You are looking at it from the wrong perspective.
Agreed that most will likely change batteries now had they agreed with him then, the overall cost of the setup will still be far more less than using power from disco. Also factor that they will not be affected by grid breakdown or faulty transformers which may warrant them to use generators as backup.

Using myself as a case study, I have been on solar for 4years counting, though I must say my batteries are not as optimal as when they were new, I still get 24hr supply keeping my sun down load to 400w. but when sun is up, I use all appliance in my house with reckless abandonment

Even if there is need to change my batteries today, I will gladly do without looking back, and those are even tubular batteries. If I go lithium, worries on batteries will be less as it has a longer life span.

Please leave this solar talk, I know an office that invested heavily in solar and it was largely unreliable for them, even tho they stay in a high irradiation area. We shouldn't be running away from the problem, but confronting it.

Will industries also run on solar? How can people be turning off light, fridge and ac because one greedy investor has bribed nerc to keep hiking tariff unnecessarily? So what will heavy duty industries now do? Is that not economic sabotage?

There's a reason why serious nations don't leave their critical infrastructure like energy, defence, etc in the hands of capitalist. You will kill your country.

If this is from any of the discos companies...dem for don use their tribal bias to call federal govt many stvpid names

Zionmdde:

Alright your 1st paragraph might be correct.
But the second paragraph can only be believed by someone who doesn't use solar

I use solar, and I know that during the wet season, your solar cannot comfortably take you non stop for 3days. And please don't mention the capacity of inverter, most people install based on their required capacity. So if I install like 2 5kvA, I mean it cannot take my intended load for 2 days non stop

So solar is good, but solar is mostly a back up to power supply

What are you people even saying?
Solar this,solar that,why can't solar advocates just tell people to get Solar without making childish and clearly false comparisons with National or state grid supply!
Can your solar,no matter the inverter grade iron your clothes,power your freezer,fridge,your electric hot plate daily without sufffering "convulsions" for a week,talkless a month?
Can it power your 2 or 3 ACs without breaking down,so what's this rubbish noise everytime to go for solar?
Can it pump your water borehole,which many houses use,daily for a month without breakdown?
Then this issue of battery.It's just like telling a car owner he would use the same battery fof his car without needing a change after 5 years at most.
Any electrical, mechanical component that uses battery must have that battery changed,no matter if its lead or the modern types because all battery types usually lose efficiency at a point in time,2- 5yrs,depending on usage.
Solar too is now very expensive,so its not like a common man facility you can instal with 100-500k.But with National grid,depending on the neighbourhood and level of development of an area,with 100-300k,in fees and development levy,you are already connected to your electric line power line.
Solar is only good as a backup for mainly light and low duty appliances and for limited hours in the day,otherwise,every month you would be crying and when you check your expenses to fix or replace one thing or the other,you find you are spending 3x what you should pay as electricity bill.
Even generator,asides the noise and need for fuelling,is far better economics wise than same power rating of solar installed.

MasterJayJay:
The increment is much. I used to pay 70 naira and they have increased it to 180 naira.

The band classification is even wrong for our side. Ukwa 33 should be Band E. But they deliberately classified it under band c.

5,000 naira gave me 65.8 kWh on December. So if I want to buy 65.8kwh today, I have to pay 11,844 naira.

Na to adjust seriously. No more ceiling fan, heat no go kill me.

Even the 2 watts, 5 watts energy bulbs I dey leave on at night, I go dey off am.

Rain go soon start your problem solved

MasterJayJay:

I can only speak for my area. My feeder is ukwa 33. Light only comes at night and they take it by 6am.

Few areas do have better supply than ours.

The fact is that with all the hype about Abapower commissioning a powerplant, we thought things could have improved much better. But that's not the case.

Abapower is still getting most of its supply from another GENCO.

Most igbos like noise too much, it was just a hype to show Otti is performing. They know the situation of light over there. The thrive in propaganda. Landmark beach owner is not claiming again, about his investment worth 200m dollars but now 30m dollars. Maybe before the end of the month, he will say it is not worth 1m dollars.

Mynd44:
I when I told close friends like 3 years ago to go solar when solar installments were quite cheap. They laughed it off.

Now petrol and diesel prices are high, power cost is also high but the price for solar installations is also high.

Let's blame your friend, while we ignore the current disastrous managers of the nation's economy.

GigFc:


Please leave this solar talk, I know an office that invested heavily in solar [/b]and it was largely unreliable for them, even tho they stay in a high irradiation area. We shouldn't be running away from the problem, but confronting it.

Will industries also run on solar? How can people be turning off light, fridge and ac because one greedy investor has bribed nerc [b]to keep hiking tariff unnecessarily? So what will heavy duty industries now do? Is that not economic sabotage?

There's a reason why serious nations don't leave their critical infrastructure like energy, defence, etc in the hands of capitalist. You will kill your country.

Well, tarrif should stabilise; however, truth be told, there is no where the cost of electricity is cheap in the world. I am not talking of the direct consumers (that is, us). I am talking of investing in energy generation and distribution. It involves heavy capital. Until those idiats start investing billions of dollars in it rather than funding useless wars, then it will remain like that for a long time.

Nikola Tesla envisioned a world where electricity is free, but do they made it happen? Human greed knows no bound. To know that energy too is capital intensive is putting up a solar installation...now imagine it on a large scale, because these things are built to last, not with inferior materials. Now, I am talking of thermal or hydro plants.

So, the investor will want to recoup the money. These guys are not Father Christmas but sharks. Now you will understand when people for obodo oyinbo go shout on you when you turn heater or anything like that because of the bills. You go think say wetin dey there sef...now you know.

Someone once said on X or so years back that Nigerians cannot afford 24/7 electricity supply if government decides to provide it. Now, it appears na true with all these Band A wailings.

As for the office, I can't speak for them or what they do. If they use quality products and know what they are doing, it will work for them but if they just rely on giving out the contracts without personal research and some knowledge about it, dem go use dem chop wella. If research labs in universities in this country could use solara nd it works for them, why not the office.

Of course, industries, because for me, the breakthrough in solar technology is not here yet. We are still like the computer generation where 2MB storage is like big shelf in the 60s...

Zionmdde:

If they agreed with you then, by now they will need to change battery

Solar can never be cheaper than steady power supply from discos, not to talk of stability. November to February can be good for solar s, what of the rest of the year?

Not true, you decided to buy the cheap battery, use a good lithium battery, and you don't need to talk about buying batteries for the next 18years+ which is a plus.

I am a solar engineer, I have been using solar since the past 4years, for everything in my house, I pump water anytime I like, my Ac is inverter AC, I run it, and j don't use gas cooker, I use inverter electric cooker that consumes only 1000W, be it raining season or be it dry season, my solar works very fine and also other client I did solar for, if your solar is oversized, both dry or raining season, your systems go still dey blaze...... Make una dey dere dey complain about disco that, Genco this..... Run to solar, we recently installed a 5kw solar systems that powers a household and their fish pond, they usually spend 12hours say pumping a 1.5hp bore hole every 2days, electricity and fuel to run the ponds non let them dey see their profits..... But it's going to 5months now since they went solar,

seborrhic:

What are you people even saying?
Solar this,solar that,why can't solar advocates just tell people to get Solar without making childish and clearly false comparisons with National or state grid supply!
Can your solar,no matter the inverter grade iron your clothes,power your freezer,fridge,your electric hot plate daily without sufffering "convulsions" for a week,talkless a month?
Can it power your 2 or 3 ACs without breaking down,so what's this rubbish noise everytime to go for solar?
Can it pump your water borehole,which many houses use,daily for a month without breakdown?
Then this issue of battery.It's just like telling a car owner he would use the same battery fof his car without needing a change after 5 years at most.
Any electrical, mechanical component that uses battery must have that battery changed,no matter if its lead or the modern types because all battery types usually lose efficiency at a point in time,2- 5yrs,depending on usage.
Solar too is now very expensive,so its not like a common man facility you can instal with 100-500k.But with National grid,depending on the neighbourhood and level of development of an area,with 100-300k,in fees and development levy,you are already connected to your electric line power line.
Solar is only good as a backup for mainly light and low duty appliances and for limited hours in the day,otherwise,every month you would be crying and when you check your expenses to fix or replace one thing or the other,you find you are spending 3x what you should pay as electricity bill.
Even generator,asides the noise and need for fuelling,is far better economics wise than same power rating of solar installed.

Why I get your frustrations and to each its owns...yes, it can power iron, hot plates, air fryer. It depends on the capacity of what you invest in. It can power ACs (that is why we have inverter air conditioners). No one is advocating for anything for anyone.

If you can't pay the BAND A price, go fuel your stuff with either a petrol/diesel generator or use CNG generator. At least, the latter will minimise your cost. Why will it breakdown when it is what is built to last? It is like comparing apple products with Transsion. It depends on the quality you go for. Use it as prescribed by the witch doctor. E no cause fight.

No, this is not true, generator is not better economic-wise. I switched because of this last year when I calculated how much I spent on fuel and I can't even use it as I like. With the present cost of fuel, it is a no-go area. I use my solar power for more than 17 hours, but I can't try it with gen and not be in serious financial wahala.

I think I will have to rest here because I can see that you have not really been into solar stuff, and these statements of yours are unfounded. People use solar off-grid and have been like that for years. You may need to check the solar thread on NL and read all to get a better picture.

WARNING: When you taste it, you won't want to go back. It is addictive like a wet p**sy

twosquare:
Well, tarrif should stabilise; however, truth be told, there is no where the cost of electricity is cheap in the world. I am not talking of the direct consumers (that is, us). I am talking of investing in energy generation and distribution. It involves heavy capital. Until those idiats start investing billions of dollars in it rather than funding useless wars, then it will remain like that for a long time.

Nikola Tesla envisioned a world where electricity is free, but do they made it happen? Human greed knows no bound. To know that energy too is capital intensive is putting up a solar installation...now imagine it on a large scale, because these things are built to last, not with inferior materials. Now, I am talking of thermal or hydro plants.

So, the investor will want to recoup the money. These guys are not Father Christmas but sharks. Now you will understand when people for obodo oyinbo go shout on you when you turn heater or anything like that because of the bills. You go think say wetin dey there sef...now you know.

Someone once said on X or so years back that Nigerians cannot afford 24/7 electricity supply if government decides to provide it. Now, it appears na true with all these Band A wailings.

As for the office, I can't speak for them or what they do. If they use quality products and know what they are doing, it will work for them but if they just rely on giving out the contracts without personal research and some knowledge about it, dem go use dem chop wella. If research labs in universities in this country could use solara nd it works for them, why not the office.

Of course, industries, because for me, the breakthrough in solar technology is not here yet. We are still like the computer generation where 2MB storage is like big shelf in the 60s...

It's fallacious that energy must be expensive in Nigeria, because it's expensive in the UK or US. The facilities that they are currently extracting energy for the so called band A distribution has already been built and financed from tax payers money. Also, the fuel (gas and hydro) are readily available in Nigeria, within the control of the government and nature, so what then is responsible for this hike, if not greed? Greed at the detriment of an industrialized nation.

If a home is struggling to keep lights and AC on, of less than 2hp, how will industries cope? The ones that can, won't the also inflate the cost of their goods and services? And who then bears the final brunt of it all?

Solar should only remain a backup and never a main source of power.

chiefkpokp:


Not true, you decided to buy the cheap battery, use a good lithium battery, and you don't need to talk about buying batteries for the next 18years+ which is a plus.

I am a solar engineer, I have been using solar since the past 4years, for everything in my house, I pump water anytime I like, my Ac is inverter AC, I run it, and j don't use gas cooker, I use inverter electric cooker that consumes only 1000W, be it raining season or be it dry season, my solar works very fine and also other client I did solar for, if your solar is oversized, both dry or raining season, your systems go still dey blaze...... Make una dey dere dey complain about disco that, Genco this..... Run to solar, we recently installed a 5kw solar systems that powers a household and their fish pond, they usually spend 12hours say pumping a 1.5hp bore hole every 2days, electricity and fuel to run the ponds non let them dey see their profits..... But it's going to 5months now since they went solar,

You are a solar engineer, so you have made it. @bolded, you sound absolutely insensitive. How many households can afford 5M to invest in solar. Is lithium battery one naira?