NewStats: 3,261,260 , 8,173,559 topics. Date: Wednesday, 28 May 2025 at 05:32 PM 26h4x

Mugu44:


Again, we were created by one god on behalf of several gods. We were created in their image and likeness.

I don't want to repeat what I typed in my last comment.

The one you call "God" is one of them. He wasn't even the highest ranking of them.


Now let me ask you a question.
If you say "God" created us, why would he allow us to sin and be eventually destroyed like some sadistic game?

OR
Why would his own creation - Satan - rebel against him & keep "causing havoc" while he just stands by and watch?

Answer this question because I can if you don't.

See how you have ed 2. different topics together i.e your confusion of multiple creators (gods) creating and owning one creation which is even the main topic here but now you are ing it and departing from the topic to why and how a creation exercises the powers that it has been given by God, his Creator?

Whereas ordinary common sense and nature has already shown you that creations and lessers are always queried and held able for whatever they do. whether they want to or not.

So if you do not want to be judged and punished or praised, then make sure you create yourself from non existence. But too late for you, you are already owned, so just like your phone and car and mannequin, you are liable to judged and condemned or praised.

Mugu44:


...then will destroy man because of the evil of the freewill He gave man.

Complete your theory.


I ask you again, does this sadistic game make any sense to you?

Even for saying this are you not qualified for destruction?

Is it not your fellow man who is destroying Farotimi because he said something in exercise of his own freewil?

You are just being foolish, sorry to say for we know you are saying all this rubbish because you see that you are qualified to be destroyed by God, Whom the Christians show and prove that He is indeed the only God. thus, you are now wishing God had not given you freewill.

Still not learning from your phones and cars that they are still liable to be destroyed when they do not please their owners.. So there is no escaping destruction whether you have freewill or not.

So, blame yourself for your destruction if you you find that God has marked you up as one of those things He plans on destroying. You could have followed other people like Noah, Daniel and Job to do only the right and good thing.

OKOATA:
Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

my best comment so far . Thank you for the Bible scripture and sharing your knowledge . You really understand

Mugu44:


Again, we were created by one god on behalf of several gods. We were created in their image and likeness.

I don't want to repeat what I typed in my last comment.

The one you call "God" is one of them. He wasn't even the highest ranking of them.


Now let me ask you a question.
If you say "God" created us, why would he allow us to sin and be eventually destroyed like some sadistic game?

OR
Why would his own creation - Satan - rebel against him & keep "causing havoc" while he just stands by and watch?


Answer this question because I can if you don't.

The one true God created us
And gave us free will
Free will to feel all emotions
Free will to be tempted by all emotions
Free will to do what is right and still do what is wrong. The devil is trying to prove to God that with the free will we have we will never do the right thing if situations don’t go our way. So in truth he isn’t standing by to watch
He is standing by to mark our test results.
Just like job just like Abram just like Jesus the list goes on, the devil will come to try to prove his point to God but it’s up to us to overcome

Antwan99:
From this point, I know you don't understand what is meant by freewill which God bestowed onto man after creating him.

It's just like, imagine it was one person who designed the first car. A car is meant to move from one place to another. The direction, location, route, speed, etc are not prescriptive by the designer. It is the driver who determines these.

Simplified, knowing good and evil are characteristics incorporated in a man by God. However, choosing between the two is a capability bestowed upon man without God's interference. That's what the concept of freewill is all about.

Thank you for ing in . Your contributions have been invaluable so far , you have very good understanding

Mugu44:


So "God" created man.
Gave man freewill.
Then kill man for exercising the freewill He gave man.

As an educated person, does this make sense to you?

Yes it does and it’s very simple. As an Educated person I expect it to make sense to you.

Now let’s do this .
I create a being I want that being to be kind and good.
So I only put kind and good in that being programming
Question?
Is that being really kind and good?.
That being is only kind and good because no matter how hard it tries it doesn’t know anything else.

Question 2
Now I create another being
And I put both kind ,good , evil and hate in that being
And I give that being free will

Then of course I put challenges along the way that will make that being decide each time
Which he wants to use
But that being chooses “kind and good each time “

Other forces meet me and say my challenges weren’t deep enough and still challenge that being with choices

But yet that being still chooses “kind and good” amidst its other choices.

Now which being will you be proud of
The one that only had kind and good programming
Or the one that had kind , good , evil and hate programming but used his free will to always pick kind and good
Answer?

Dtruthspeaker:


Whom God wants to destroy He first makes mad!

Since when did destroying a damaged property become evil? or since when did destroying a thing which destroys other things become evil?

Op, once again, you are finished. It was better you were not born, but too late now, you are over.

The first quote you made shows you’re making reference to the gods .
It’s all right thanks for ing in nonetheless. You can ask your questions without adding any slur or inciteful statements and I or anyone will gladly shed more light . Thank you

Dtruthspeaker:


If you saw properly. then you would have seen that creations. andt properties are only owned by one person eg your house, car, phone, mannequins.

So, there is only one God! People are just referring to Him in their dialects or fabricating their own as the golden calf proves since they do not want Him.

This will lead to my next thread.
Cause why won’t God want to distinguish himself from all these frauds, why won’t he perform a modern miracle through one of his prophets , e.g manna fall from the heavens or multiply bread. And have this caught live on camera. So they will be no arguing the fact of who is the true God

Dtruthspeaker:


Even for saying this are you not qualified for destruction?

Is it not your fellow man who is destroying Farotimi because he said something in exercise of his own freewil?

You are just being foolish, sorry to say for we know you are saying all this rubbish because you see that you are qualified to be destroyed by God, Whom the Christians show and prove that He is indeed the only God. thus, you are now wishing God had not given you freewill.

Still not learning from your phones and cars that they are still liable to be destroyed when they do not please their owners.. So there is no escaping destruction whether you have freewill or not.

So, blame yourself for your destruction if you you find that God has marked you up as one of those things He plans on destroying. You could have followed other people like Noah, Daniel and Job to do only the right and good thing.

Bro please let’s refrain from using inciteful words even while enlightening others , so we don’t derail the thread and also respect one another

Perversion. You call good evil, and evil good. Sorry for you.

Treborblue:

Bro please let’s refrain from using insightful words even while enlightening others , so we don’t derail the thread and also respect one another

Inciteful.

BondRiv:
Perversion. You call good evil, and evil good. Sorry for you.

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Good is good
Evil is evil
I don’t know what gave you that context but hope I’ve clarified it for you
Thanks for ing

BondRiv:


Inciteful.

Thank you for the correction
Let me modify my posts

YOU BE MUSLIM or CHRISTIAN
I wan confirm something.

seanery:
YOU BE MUSLIM or CHRISTIAN
I wan confirm something.

Christian
What do you wanna confirm

Op, you're 100% correct judging by what I know. These guys are too scared or far behind to understand you. Just leave them alone

Treborblue:

Bro please let’s refrain from using inciteful words even while enlightening others , so we don’t derail the thread and also respect one another

Sorry, i am not trying to ignite anyone but the topic is already incitting and thus it must be countered equally sharply, especially as his grounds are full of obvious holes. Holes that even ordinary nature has filled already

Treborblue:


This will lead to my next thread.
Cause why won’t God want to distinguish himself from all these frauds, why won’t he perform a modern miracle through one of his prophets , e.g manna fall from the heavens or multiply bread. And have this caught live on camera. So they will be no arguing the fact of who is the true God

There is nothinh to distinguish.

Look at the phone or device you are using, if someone was of really claiming ownership, you would not be able to use it comfortably.

But, because it is free from encumberance therefore, whether anyone says it belongs to another person, both you and the phone are in peace as it continues to doing all that you have commanded.

So even if Mugu's devotees claim it is not your own, you are not bothered nor do you open your mouth to foolishly start arguing with them. because it is already proven beyond all doubt by fact and fiction Law that the phone you are using is yours.

Mugu44:


1. Mankind was created by one (of the) gods although they were all in agreement on our creation.
However, a few of the gods did procreate with man to give birth to unique humans. Same homo sapien but having superior gifts due to their direct god progenitor.

Adam, Noah & possibly Jesus are examples of these offsprings. And yes, Mary was not impregnated by man (story for another day).


2. So knowing these, now try to understand why the gods will be biased towards certain people who are descendants of their offspring.

To identify your own god, you will need to trace your roots which mankind's history has greatly distorted. Your best bet is to just follow whatever god is worshipped in your hometown.


3. They were definitely created too. They have a higher force that they fear. As a matter of fact, creating us was illegal, it went against the laws of nature/their creator initially.

Amongst our creators, they have ranks and the highest ranking one will usually prevail over the lesser ones though not 100% guaranteed. It is possible for a lower god to defeat his elder depending on the circumstances. Use Man City vs Monaco for example, Man City will win most times but Monaco will spring surprises a few times.


I hope I explained enough to answer your questions.
Your questions are kind of intertwined.

Very wise

BondRiv:
Perversion. You call good evil, and evil good. Sorry for you.

Big Perversion.

Treborblue:

Question 2
Now I create another being
And I put both kind ,good , evil and hate in that being
And I give that being free will

Since you claim "Christian" then you ought to have seen that God created man very very Good.

And that another extra good and evil were outside the man

And that one evil thing got woman to put evil in her and she gave her husband, the evil to put in himself.

So, God did not put any evil in man, it is woman who put evil in herself and got man to do the same.

So you see you are not a Christian but clearly a blasphemous devil the bible foretold us will come up speaking blasphemies against God!

Treborblue:

I like your submission. Very good take. So we weren’t created by the same god.
2. How do we identify our own god
3. If there are multiple gods then that means they were created and also have a superior.


The fact is there is one God above them all

In Odinani (Igbo religion), we believe the following
1. Chi-ukwu (Big god) created everything but does not interfere. His role is simply to create. That is why he is also called chi n'eke (god that creates)

2. Chukwu created Alusi (oracles). They are divine beings that interfere in the affairs of men and aliens and over-sees gods creations. Every people have their own Alusis. Jesus is possibly the Alusi of the European. While Mohammed is possibly the Alusi of the Arabs. And Buddah is also Alusi for his own people. So on.

3. The Alusis that governs Igbo land is Ala (earth). She is the most important being created by the creator and has the role of giving life, death etc. She is aided by the Sun, Amadioha who brings thunder and justice, Ikenga who gives intelligence, good fortune and wealth, and Ekwensu who embodies the evil in creation.

Odinani religion gives a better description of God than Christianity and Islam.

Treborblue:

Cause why won’t God want to distinguish himself from all these frauds, why won’t he perform a modern miracle through one of his prophets , e.g manna fall from the heavens or multiply bread. And have this caught live on camera. So they will be no arguing the fact of who is the true God

First know that buda is an atheist. There are no gods.

"Prophets" perform miracles everyday, and they are not only caught on camera, you regularly benefit and use the results of those miracles everyday.

When Prophet Surgeon takes out your defective liver or heart and replaces it with a functioning one, they have performed a miracle so that you may live.

When you transmit your voice from wherever you are and are heard by people on the other side of the earth, you are using what Prophet Phone Creator miraculously created.

When you fly in a plane and cover immense space to get to where you can not walk to, you are using what Prophet Transport Maker miraculously created.

Unfortunately, many can not understand that all these everyday things of today are greater things than He did.

Treborblue:
So i will be starting a series . To enlighten the minds of many on who the creator is.
Please bear a open mind
And a sincere heart the truth shall be revealed. Feel free to ask questions and say your mind . Afterall that’s what I’m here for

Just like the topic says . Yes
Chapter1
God IS EVIL

Now let’s do some quick test
Close your eyes and imagine a color that doesn’t exist.
Well you can’t without mixing already existing colors together.
Okay let’s do another test
Get a remote control then press a button that isn’t on the remote control. Well that’s also impossible right
So how therefore do you think
People or let’s say the devil are able to manifest bad if the programming wasn’t in them.
Now I’m a strong believer of God and his son Jesus Christ and Ived followed the Bible and Christianity closely, but it pains me to see that many people don’t know so many truths.
“Why do you fear he who can only destroy the body but not he who can destroy both the body and the soul”
That’s one scripture where God tells us plainly that I am evil.
Well if Adam and Eve haven’t disobeyed and ate that fruit all will be well. lol the fruit in the garden was a game always has been.
Devil proving to God
That humans aren’t better off the fallen angels . The devil and the lord for lack of better
Are friends
The devil is an acc that has fallen short of Gods love
And he trying to make God believe nothing he creates that shares the emotions of God can be “good”
Yes all the emotions we feel God feels them too
Anger, love , pain , lust , happiness. Etc any emotion you feel God feels it to
And it’s possible he feels other emotions he didn’t program for us to feel.
Now back to the story.
Devil keeps on corrupting man
Making God destroy man time and time again
Because the devil is trying to prove that man isn’t better than them (The fallen angels).
That why the sodom and Gomorrah God asked Abram to bring just 10good men. Knowing they weren’t even up to. But the consequences of making a deal with God are far more worse than the consequences of making a deal with the devil or demons. If you make a deal with God and break it . Your suffer would be far greater , worse so that you may not bear the suffer on earth . But that’s where God is different he forgives cause he feels it all.in order for him to forgive you , you have to be genuinely repentant like David was.

Today is Christmas and there are Christians you that will die today of starvation true or false ?
Next topic we will break the barrier of religion and open your eyes to understand the creator
But first do you agree with me that God is Evil.?

Good, OP is waking up, do your research about Demurge

Bede2u:

In Odinani (Igbo religion), we believe the following
1. Chi-ukwu (Big god) created everything but does not interfere. His role is simply to create. That is why he is also called chi n'eke (god that creates)

2. Chukwu created Alusi (oracles). They are divine beings that interfere in the affairs of men and aliens and over-sees gods creations. Every people have their own Alusis. Jesus is possibly the Alusi of the European. While Mohammed is possibly the Alusi of the Arabs. And Buddah is also Alusi for his own people. So on.

3. The Alusis that governs Igbo land is Ala (earth). She is the most important being created by the creator and has the role of giving life, death etc. She is aided by the Sun, Amadioha who brings thunder and justice, Ikenga who gives intelligence, good fortune and wealth, and Ekwensu who embodies the evil in creation.

Odinani religion gives a better description of God than Christianity and Islam.

That is the very paganism of the old civilisations like the movies Atiila, Odysseus, sinbad have shown you, and Abraham too was from them, yet he knew something was wrong which was why God called him and used him to put down His own Way so that we would not be destroyed by the pagan ways since you would claim that you did not know that your pagab way was not God's Way.

So now you know, yet you continue to choose the way of your ancestors, when God comes and finds you guilty, you have no excuse.

Treborblue:


This is where you’re wrong.
They are beings that rule us but none are our creator.
We were created by God in his own image.
They are beings that will give you grace supernatural edge . When you worship them . But they are all lesser gods. The one true God
The creator of the universe . Is the sole owner of both Good and evil
All the rest of us do is imitate .
And of course Mary wasn’t impregnated by man lol who doesn’t know that . Mary was “good”.
Now alll these lesser gods are biased to their subjects . But the one true creator loves and cherishes all the same . Hope you understand and stop mixing it up

So, according to your analysis,god created blacks and forgot till the whites decided to come and use us as slaves.
He left us for thousands of years for the devil to torture us.
Does that sound like a good God.
He ordered Israelites to attack their neighbors because they were not serving him, even helped Israel to conquer and kill thousands of people, children, women, pregnant women and he calls himself their creator/Father.
Will your father assist your siblings in defeating you if you don't love him enough,will you call your father a good father.
I know that you will come up and say "you cannot compare God with earthly father"
Jesus said "Let it be on earth as it is in heaven"

Treborblue:

The first quote you made shows you’re making reference to the gods .
It’s all right thanks for ing in nonetheless. You can ask your questions without adding any slur or inciteful statements and I or anyone will gladly shed more light . Thank you

You ask that he not say anything inciteful yet your header and topic in itself is inciteful and full of hate and wickedness.

You have started the incitefullness already and in response thereto I say you are very very evil and the most hateful and evil being in all the Universe!

Your post in itself is full of rants and incoherence and clearly calling God evil for the evil and clear and direct acts of others and then for dishing out to them the consequences of their actions.

You did not blame the man who exercised his freewill wrongly and in such a way that brings the bad consequences to him neither did you blame the Devil who did the direct evil but rather God who did no evil in any of this, guy, you evil gon gon and you neva see suffer!

You will suffer eh, when suffering is mentioned, you shall be the poster boy!

Treborblue:
my best comment so far . Thank you for the Bible scripture and sharing your knowledge . You really understand

So because He creates Evil therefore He is Evil? See how big a fool you are! And you think you have sense!

Is rat poison not evil to the rat? Does that make the creator of rat poison evil?

Or the creator of anti virus evil?

The fact that a person creates Evil doesn't make a person evil but rather that he does evil, that is where the Judgment is!

budaatum:


First know that buda is an atheist. There are no gods.

"Prophets" perform miracles everyday, and they are not only caught on camera, you regularly benefit and use the results of those miracles everyday.

When Prophet Surgeon takes out your defective liver or heart and replaces it with a functioning one, they have performed a miracle so that you may live.

When you transmit your voice from wherever you are and are heard by people on the other side of the earth, you are using what Prophet Phone Creator miraculously created.

When you fly in a plane and cover immense space to get to where you can not walk to, you are using what Prophet Transport Maker miraculously created.

Unfortunately, many can not understand that all these everyday things of today are greater things than He did.

See the devil that was prophecied to come confirming exactly what the bible foretold that devils will praise the creation rather than the Creator. Romans 1:25

FayaBall:


So because He creates Evil therefore He is Evil? See how big a fool you are! And you think you have sense!

Is rat poison not evil to the rat? Does that make the creator of rat poison evil?

Or the creator of anti virus evil?

The fact that a person creates Evil doesn't make a person evil but rather that he does evil, that is where the Judgment is!

Or Soap or acid used in batteries. No where has he said the maker of Persil detergent is evil nor the makers of Hypo

Abrahamweb:

So, according to your analysis,god created blacks and forgot till the whites decided to come and use us as slaves.
He left us for thousands of years for the devil to torture us.
Does that sound like a good God.
He ordered Israelites to attack their neighbors because they were not serving him, even helped Israel to conquer and kill thousands of people, children, women, pregnant women and he calls himself their creator/Father.
Will your father assist your siblings in defeating you if you don't love him enough,will you call your father a good father.
I know that you will come up and say "you cannot compare God with earthly father"
Jesus said "Let it be on earth as it is in heaven"

You should do yourself a favour and remove the Abraham from your name for you know not God as he did.

Did Israel's neighbours not attack them first and you think God will not respond? You people must think God does nothing when you attack His people and then when he responds, you all come out shouting

First to do no dey pain! Hissssss

Dtruthspeaker:


Or Soap or acid used in batteries. No where has he said the maker of Persil detergent is evil nor the makers of Hypo

Hissssss. Very stupid people