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happney65: 7:06pm On Dec 06, 2024
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budaatum: 8:05pm On Dec 06, 2024
While noting the stock market is not the economy, this is so we can look back to check how greater America becomes.

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cococandy(f): 8:14pm On Dec 06, 2024
budaatum:
While noting the stock market is not the economy, this is so we can look back to check how greater America becomes.

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cococandy(f): 8:14pm On Dec 06, 2024
feedthenation:
---your MAGAT Daddy Drifter is selling perfume---

I bet it’s Musky. lol 😂

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IjeBos(m): 10:21pm On Dec 06, 2024
Good Read
https://mattlabash.substack.com/p/casting-a-wide-net

The cognitive dissonance of Trump ers never ceases to amaze me.

The same way Fox News trying to pretend it’s anti-establishment is a bad joke. Fox has been the establishment on the right for almost 30 years. They’ve been whipping CNN and MSNBC in the ratings for nearly as long. They make or break just about every Republican nominee. And Republicans now own the presidency, the House, the Senate, and the Supreme Court. But they’re going to rebel against themselves? And pretend they weren’t for all the things they espoused every step of the way, pre-Trump? (George W. Bush, interventionism, the Iraq War, et al. — things I was often against, by the way.)
Great section.

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armyofone(m): 10:51pm On Dec 06, 2024
feedthenation:
---@Uncle Basilico---your MAGAT Daddy Drifter is selling perfume---

The name grin grin

Imagine reaching Macy's or Sak 5th Ave, or Nordstrom etc and say
I'm looking for Fight, fight, fight perfume grin

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bemeruca: 11:33pm On Dec 06, 2024
happney65:
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Trump effect if this is not another one of their lies
AmazonTopaz(f): 11:49pm On Dec 06, 2024
budaatum:
While noting the stock market is not the economy, this is so we can look back to check how greater America becomes.

grin grin grin grin grin

There are reports of cutting social security and Medicare. I will not say anything about this yet, let me see how this plays out.

But if they succeed, I will be quiet for now. grin

A part of me wants to Orange Criminal in the White House now, I have expectations and January 20th is quite far. embarassed

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AmazonTopaz(f): 12:00am On Dec 07, 2024
happney65:
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When I read the accomplishments of Biden's istration, it's one of the reasons why I refuse to criticise him to running for re-election. He even won that primary with more delegates than Obama had for his re-election. Biden worked every single day for America and like every other President was well within his rights to seek re-election and he deserved it.

These accomplishments are why I cannot blame Biden for the loss. It wasn't on him it was on the dumb voters. How could the citizens not see this? Were they not seeing the new infrastructure projects, manufacturing jobs, student loans debt cancellations, expanding medicaid access and reducing the cost of some drugs? How could the viable option be a convicted felon who tried to overturn an election and was responsible for the deaths of over 600k People due to his mismanagement of the pandemic? That Biden's istration has to clean up.

How could people be so stupid? When I see takes blaming Biden and absorbing the voters I just shake my head. The American media and the electorate that it caters to are big fools. If we had such government in Africa they will be ruling for eternity. Americans took Biden for granted, they rewarded him with nothing. The working class that he worked for voted for Trump and I pray to God that they get everything they voted for.

There is a saying that "you don't value what you get until you lose it" that's what is going to happen when Orange Hitler takes office and I will be cheering him on. Lived experiences are sometimes the best teacher because they were warned and chose not to listen.

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basilico: 3:12am On Dec 07, 2024
AmazonTopaz:


When I read the accomplishments of Biden's istration, it's one of the reasons why I refuse to criticise him to running for re-election. He even won that primary with more delegates than Obama had for his re-election. Biden worked every single day for America and like every other President was well within his rights to seek re-election and he deserved it.

These accomplishments are why I cannot blame Biden for the loss. It wasn't on him it was on the dumb voters. How could the citizens not see this? Were they not seeing the new infrastructure projects, manufacturing jobs, student loans debt cancellations, expanding medicaid access and reducing the cost of some drugs? How could the viable option be a convicted felon who tried to overturn an election and was responsible for the deaths of over 600k People due to his mismanagement of the pandemic? That Biden's istration has to clean up.

How could people be so stupid? When I see takes blaming Biden and absorbing the voters I just shake my head. The American media and the electorate that it caters to are big fools. If we had such government in Africa they will be ruling for eternity. Americans took Biden for granted, they rewarded him with nothing. The working class that he worked for voted for Trump and I pray to God that they get everything they voted for.

There is a saying that "you don't value what you get until you lose it" that's what is going to happen when Orange Hitler takes office and I will be cheering him on. Lived experiences are sometimes the best teacher because they were warned and chose not to listen.


A prosecutor found him mentally unfit to stand trial
He is mentally fit to issue pardons.
basilico: 3:26am On Dec 07, 2024
cococandy:
Data from pub med shows that more than 80% of trans kids have considered suicide and 40% of them have attempted it. Further down the meta analyses, it shows that being accepted by family/ system including receiving gender affirming care significantly reduces the risk of suicidal ideation.

I won’t lie I’m also sometimes guilty of overlooking data that doesn’t show what I want it to. But that’s not the scientific method.

As for the infertility argument, I could reply saying that it’s only temporary infertility unless there’s removal of the gonads in which case then there’s infertility for sure but of course you’ll have a reply for that too. đŸ€Ł.
I don’t want to keep going back and forth.

So I’ve noted all you said. And I agree with you that trans adults can do whatever they want with their bodies while maintaining NO to surgery for trans kids. On the rest I’m going to agree to disagree.

At the end of the day, you and I don’t have personal experience with this. So, objectively we are out of our depth in this conversation. If I knew a trans person in real life, I’d have loved to pick their brain and see what I can actually understand based on their lived experience.

I don’t even talk about this in real life because it’s a conversation that doesn’t come up. My main reason for often jumping in on NL is because of the misrepresentation of American school systems and health care systems around the LGBTQ topic.

Cheers.
Cococandy.Abortion is now defined as parental care of something like that.
Puberty blockers, castration chemically, hormone therapy etc are defined as gender affirming care
The left using nice sounding words to entrench an evil. They have data to prove to their objectives.
There is a lot of research data available under every topic under the sun.
Example.
Carbon dioxide levels is getting to sn existential threat yet greenhouses pump CO2 to accelerate plant growth.
However.
https://extension.okstate.edu/fact-sheets/greenhouse-carbon-dioxide-supplementation.html

In general, CO2 supplementation is the process of adding more CO2 in the greenhouse, which increases photosynthesis in a plant. Although benefits of high CO2 concentration have been recognized since the early 19th century, growth of the greenhouse industry and indoor gardening since the 1970s has dramatically increased the need for supplemental CO2. The greenhouse industry has advanced with new technologies and automation.

Researchers will come up with data that s any position or disapproves another.
There are cases of trans in sports where males who when defeated by fellow males suddenly become female and dominate the sport claiming and never transition. There are trans are guys in jail who claim to be women then end up impregnating female prisoners through osmosis.
If one can change their sex then they can change their age and have sex with minors .

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cococandy(f): 10:57am On Dec 07, 2024
basilico:

Cococandy.Abortion is now defined as parental care of something like that.

I don’t argue with men on the internet about abortion. If you want to be the exception, explain to me in your own words the difference between the luteal phase and the follicular phase. What kind of changes would you expect and how would a woman cope with each phase?


Puberty blockers, castration chemically, hormone therapy etc are defined as gender affirming care
The left using nice sounding words to entrench an evil.


refer to my previous posts.

They have data to prove to their objectives.
There is a lot of research data available under every topic under the sun.
There’s a way to get reliable data. 1) See if the sample used in the study is big enough to be a true presentation of the population being studied. How was the sample selected? Is the study peer reviewed?
If I want to quote a website or blog page on here, I read to the bottom of their page to see how they get their information. Statistics is a REQUIRED course in every reputable undergraduate program. And it teaches you how to sift real information from sound bites.


Example.
Carbon dioxide levels is getting to sn existential threat yet greenhouses pump CO2 to accelerate plant growth.
However.
https://extension.okstate.edu/fact-sheets/greenhouse-carbon-dioxide-supplementation.html

In general, CO2 supplementation is the process of adding more CO2 in the greenhouse, which increases photosynthesis in a plant. Although benefits of high CO2 concentration have been recognized since the early 19th century, growth of the greenhouse industry and indoor gardening since the 1970s has dramatically increased the need for supplemental CO2. The greenhouse industry has advanced with new technologies and automation.
Thank you so much! I am so glad you’re bringing this up. Do you know elevated CO2 levels AKA the green house effect is the main driver of climate change? I’m surprised you acknowledge that CO2 is rising to the level of existential threat but you Trump who shits on climate scientists and calls climate change a hoax.

Which is it Basilico? Is climate change real or not? Will it only get real when Trump finally acknowledges it? He pulled us out of the Paris climate accord that was formed to tackle climate change. He calls climate restoration actions part of woke mind virus because it threatens his environmentally toxic billionaire buddies. You guys have to know what you before lending all your voice and effort to it.



Researchers will come up with data that s any position or disapproves another.
in other words, scientific evidence is no longer trustworthy. And there ladies and gentlemen is how fascism works. Only the one true leader (Trump) knows the truth. If it doesn’t something he says, then it can’t be true.

There are cases of trans in sports where males who when defeated by fellow males suddenly become female and dominate the sport claiming and never transition. There are trans are guys in jail who claim to be women then end up impregnating female prisoners through osmosis.

You guys don’t care about women. If you did, Trump wouldn’t be your choice. Trans women in prisons and in sports might be a minute 0.0000001 of the general population but you harp on it because it’s a talking point for you. It’s not an issue of actual concern about the safety of women for you. If you were concerned, you’d be talking about the fact that just this year alone over 460 thousand women have been sexually abused in the USA alone (RAINN.org).

You cannot scare a reasonable woman into being afraid of trans women when in real life the people we are afraid of are men who don’t take no for an answer. I might feel bamboozled, intrigued or confused when I see a trans woman in real life, but one thing I’ll never be is afraid. You are gonna have to do better by showing us cold hard facts that corroborate how much more trans women are a danger to us than men already are.
When men love and want to protect us, your actions will show it. Words are not enough. And so far y’all’s actions haven’t been taken in of women’s wellbeing.


If one can change their sex then they can change their age and have sex with minors .
And in the same vein, you don’t actually care about children. You’re concerned about an impossible hypothetical situation of someone changing their age to molest children but the real life cases of actual child sexual assault cases don’t get your attention. If anything, you the men who have credible cases of child sexual assault cases against them. You were in of Matt Gaetz a few pages back. Pls don’t play with my intelligence.

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GloriousGbola: 12:23pm On Dec 07, 2024
cococandy:
I don’t argue with men on the internet about abortion. If you want to be the exception, explain to me in your own words the difference between the luteal phase and the follicular phase. What kind of changes would you expect and how would a woman cope with each phase?



refer to my previous posts.


There’s a way to get reliable data. 1) See if the sample used in the study is big enough to be a true presentation of the population being studied. How was the sample selected? Is the study peer reviewed?
If I want to quote a website or blog page on here, I read to the bottom of their page to see how they get their information. Statistics is a REQUIRED course in every reputable undergraduate program. And it teaches you how to sift real information from sound bites.

Thank you so much! I am so glad you’re bringing this up. Do you know elevated CO2 levels AKA the green house effect is the main driver of climate change? I’m surprised you acknowledge that CO2 is rising to the level of existential threat but you Trump who shits on climate scientists and call climate change a hoax.

Which is it Basilico? Is climate change real or not? Will it only get real when Trump finally acknowledges it? He pulled us out of the Paris climate accord that was formed to tackle climate change. He calls climate restoration actions part of woke mind virus because it threatens his environmentally toxic billionaire buddies. You guys have to know what you before lending all your voice and effort to it.


in other words, scientific evidence is no longer trustworthy. And there ladies and gentlemen is how fascism works. Only the one true leader (Trump) knows the truth. If it doesn’t something he says, then it can’t be true.



You guys don’t care about women. If you did, Trump wouldn’t be your choice. Trans women in prisons and in sports might be a minute 0.0000001 of the general population but you harp on it because it’s a talking point for you. It’s not an issue of actual concern about the safety of women for you. If you were concerned, you’d be talking about the fact that just this year alone over 460 thousand women have been sexually abused in the USA alone (RAINN.org).

You cannot scare a reasonable woman into being afraid of trans women when in real life the people we are afraid of are men who don’t take no for an answer. I might feel bamboozled, intrigued or confused when I see a trans woman in real life, but one thing I’ll never be is afraid. You are gonna have to do better by showing us cold hard facts that corroborate how much more trans women are a danger to us than men already are.
When men love and want to protect us, your actions will show it. Words are not enough. And so far y’all’s actions haven’t been taken in of women’s wellbeing.

And in the same vein, you don’t actually care about children. You’re concerned about an impossible hypothetical situation of someone changing their age to molest children but the real life cases of actual child sexual assault cases don’t get your attention. If anything, you the men who have credible cases of child sexual assault cases against them. You were in of Matt Gaetz a few pages back. Pls don’t play with my intelligence.

the biggest irony about the pearl clutching over sex with minors is that the average nigerian conservative men, muslim or christian, really does not see anything wrong with sex with females under the age of 18. we saw a so called conservative on this thread defending a man caught in the uk soliciting sex from a minor. the same brigade that want to 'protect' children from raging child molesting transexuals have no problem with going after the same children - who then become temptresses who led good men into sin.

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Maeve7: 12:38pm On Dec 07, 2024
cococandy:
I don’t argue with men on the internet about abortion. If you want to be the exception, explain to me in your own words the difference between the luteal phase and the follicular phase. What kind of changes would you expect and how would a woman cope with each phase?



refer to my previous posts.


There’s a way to get reliable data. 1) See if the sample used in the study is big enough to be a true presentation of the population being studied. How was the sample selected? Is the study peer reviewed?
If I want to quote a website or blog page on here, I read to the bottom of their page to see how they get their information. Statistics is a REQUIRED course in every reputable undergraduate program. And it teaches you how to sift real information from sound bites.

Thank you so much! I am so glad you’re bringing this up. Do you know elevated CO2 levels AKA the green house effect is the main driver of climate change? I’m surprised you acknowledge that CO2 is rising to the level of existential threat but you Trump who shits on climate scientists and calls climate change a hoax.

Which is it Basilico? Is climate change real or not? Will it only get real when Trump finally acknowledges it? He pulled us out of the Paris climate accord that was formed to tackle climate change. He calls climate restoration actions part of woke mind virus because it threatens his environmentally toxic billionaire buddies. You guys have to know what you before lending all your voice and effort to it.


in other words, scientific evidence is no longer trustworthy. And there ladies and gentlemen is how fascism works. Only the one true leader (Trump) knows the truth. If it doesn’t something he says, then it can’t be true.



You guys don’t care about women. If you did, Trump wouldn’t be your choice. Trans women in prisons and in sports might be a minute 0.0000001 of the general population but you harp on it because it’s a talking point for you. It’s not an issue of actual concern about the safety of women for you. If you were concerned, you’d be talking about the fact that just this year alone over 460 thousand women have been sexually abused in the USA alone (RAINN.org).

You cannot scare a reasonable woman into being afraid of trans women when in real life the people we are afraid of are men who don’t take no for an answer. I might feel bamboozled, intrigued or confused when I see a trans woman in real life, but one thing I’ll never be is afraid. You are gonna have to do better by showing us cold hard facts that corroborate how much more trans women are a danger to us than men already are.
When men love and want to protect us, your actions will show it. Words are not enough. And so far y’all’s actions haven’t been taken in of women’s wellbeing.

And in the same vein, you don’t actually care about children. You’re concerned about an impossible hypothetical situation of someone changing their age to molest children but the real life cases of actual child sexual assault cases don’t get your attention. If anything, you the men who have credible cases of child sexual assault cases against them. You were in of Matt Gaetz a few pages back. Pls don’t play with my intelligence.

I need to save this masterpiece for future reference.

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cococandy(f): 12:41pm On Dec 07, 2024
GloriousGbola:


the biggest irony about the pearl clutching over sex with minors is that the average nigerian conservative men, muslim or christian, really does not see anything wrong with sex with females under the age of 18. we saw a so called conservative on this thread defending a man caught in the uk soliciting sex from a minor. the same brigade that want to 'protect' children from raging child molesting transexuals have no problem with going after the same children - who then become temptresses who led good men into sin.

Exactly. A disturbing number of them have credible sexual assault allegations or inappropriate behavior around kids.

If we all were to get on board with caring about children sincerely and wholeheartedly, a lot of people won’t be conservatives. Or at least what the Conservative Party stands for will change. EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN LAWMAKER voted against common sense gun control legislation. After they reviewed information that clearly showed gun violence to be the number cause of death for American kids years in a row. It’s people that don’t live in America or those who have other stuff to benefit from being republican who believe them when they start their hypocritical caring about the kids rhetoric.

They vote against free lunches for kids in schools, they vote against healthcare that can benefit kids from poor families. They vote against anything that will help underserved kids get a foothold in life so they can measure up to others. It’s an endless list of things they’ve done to give the middle finger to kid’s wellbeing.

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cococandy(f): 12:46pm On Dec 07, 2024
Maeve7:


I need to save this masterpiece for future reference.
🙃

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happney65: 12:51pm On Dec 07, 2024
bemeruca:


Trump effect if this is not another one of their lies

Henhen?

DJ UK Mule.. grin

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DeepSight(m): 1:17pm On Dec 07, 2024
cococandy:
🙃

A real masterpiece.

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bemeruca: 3:12pm On Dec 07, 2024
GloriousGbola:


the biggest irony about the pearl clutching over sex with minors is that the average nigerian conservative men, muslim or christian, really does not see anything wrong with sex with females under the age of 18. we saw a so called conservative on this thread defending a man caught in the uk soliciting sex from a minor. the same brigade that want to 'protect' children from raging child molesting transexuals have no problem with going after the same children - who then become temptresses who led good men into sin.

What you saw is your inability to comprehend a simple thing.
When you talk about defending sex with minors, you may want to look at your side. Start with budaatum then work your way from there.

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raumdeuter: 3:12pm On Dec 07, 2024
cococandy:

You guys don’t care about women. If you did, Trump wouldn’t be your choice. Trans women in prisons and in sports might be a minute 0.0000001 of the general population but you harp on it because it’s a talking point for you. It’s not an issue of actual concern about the safety of women for you. If you were concerned, you’d be talking about the fact that just this year alone over 460 thousand women have been sexually abused in the USA alone (RAINN.org).

44% of US women think Trump cares about them and voted for him in the last election. Not only men harp on this women as well harp on this even notable feminists like JK Rowlings and Martina Navratilova are prominent female voices against the concerns of trans in women spaces

You cannot scare a reasonable woman into being afraid of trans women when in real life the people we are afraid of are men who don’t take no for an answer. I might feel bamboozled, intrigued or confused when I see a trans woman in real life, but one thing I’ll never be is afraid. You are gonna have to do better by showing us cold hard facts that corroborate how much more trans women are a danger to us than men already are.
When men love and want to protect us, your actions will show it. Words are not enough. And so far y’all’s actions haven’t been taken in of women’s wellbeing.

There are many female who are concerned about the influence of trans people in their spaces and are pushing for it as well



If biological men(trans) can compete in female sports, then why do we need a category for female sports?

This is an example of such lawsuits by former and current athletes against the NCAA for allowing trans to compete with females

More than a dozen current and former collegiate female athletes filed a lawsuit with a US District Court in Georgia on Thursday, alleging that the NCAA “serially violated Title IX in 2022 by purposefully adopting and amending policies” to allow transgender swimmer Lia Thomas to compete with the UPenn women’s swim team during NCAA competitions.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/15/sport/ncaa-title-ix-violations-transgender-spt-intl/index.html

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bemeruca: 3:21pm On Dec 07, 2024
cococandy:
I don’t argue with men on the internet about abortion. If you want to be the exception, explain to me in your own words the difference between the luteal phase and the follicular phase. What kind of changes would you expect and how would a woman cope with each phase?



refer to my previous posts.


There’s a way to get reliable data. 1) See if the sample used in the study is big enough to be a true presentation of the population being studied. How was the sample selected? Is the study peer reviewed?
If I want to quote a website or blog page on here, I read to the bottom of their page to see how they get their information. Statistics is a REQUIRED course in every reputable undergraduate program. And it teaches you how to sift real information from sound bites.

Thank you so much! I am so glad you’re bringing this up. Do you know elevated CO2 levels AKA the green house effect is the main driver of climate change? I’m surprised you acknowledge that CO2 is rising to the level of existential threat but you Trump who shits on climate scientists and calls climate change a hoax.

Which is it Basilico? Is climate change real or not? Will it only get real when Trump finally acknowledges it? He pulled us out of the Paris climate accord that was formed to tackle climate change. He calls climate restoration actions part of woke mind virus because it threatens his environmentally toxic billionaire buddies. You guys have to know what you before lending all your voice and effort to it.


in other words, scientific evidence is no longer trustworthy. And there ladies and gentlemen is how fascism works. Only the one true leader (Trump) knows the truth. If it doesn’t something he says, then it can’t be true.



You guys don’t care about women. If you did, Trump wouldn’t be your choice. Trans women in prisons and in sports might be a minute 0.0000001 of the general population but you harp on it because it’s a talking point for you. It’s not an issue of actual concern about the safety of women for you. If you were concerned, you’d be talking about the fact that just this year alone over 460 thousand women have been sexually abused in the USA alone (RAINN.org).

You cannot scare a reasonable woman into being afraid of trans women when in real life the people we are afraid of are men who don’t take no for an answer. I might feel bamboozled, intrigued or confused when I see a trans woman in real life, but one thing I’ll never be is afraid. You are gonna have to do better by showing us cold hard facts that corroborate how much more trans women are a danger to us than men already are.
When men love and want to protect us, your actions will show it. Words are not enough. And so far y’all’s actions haven’t been taken in of women’s wellbeing.

And in the same vein, you don’t actually care about children. You’re concerned about an impossible hypothetical situation of someone changing their age to molest children but the real life cases of actual child sexual assault cases don’t get your attention. If anything, you the men who have credible cases of child sexual assault cases against them. You were in of Matt Gaetz a few pages back. Pls don’t play with my intelligence.

This your emotional rant is laughable. The only time your side care about women is when they want to use them to take down a republican with a rape allegation or whenever they want to win election with abortion.

From men in women sports men, In women bathrooms; the left is anti women

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raumdeuter: 3:28pm On Dec 07, 2024
cococandy:


Exactly. A disturbing number of them have credible sexual assault allegations or inappropriate behavior around kids.

If we all were to get on board with caring about children sincerely and wholeheartedly, a lot of people won’t be conservatives. Or at least what the Conservative Party stands for will change. EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN LAWMAKER voted against common sense gun control legislation. After they reviewed information that clearly showed gun violence to be the number cause of death for American kids years in a row. It’s people that don’t live in America or those who have other stuff to benefit from being republican who believe them when they start their hypocritical caring about the kids rhetoric.

Gun control laws do not apply to criminals as they do not operate under the law, these laws instead handicap law abiding citizens from protecting themselves. Solution is not in banning guns but enforcing already existing laws, addressing mental health challenges that make people want to shoot others and increasing school security where potential attackers view as soft targets

cococandy:
They vote against free lunches for kids in schools, they vote against healthcare that can benefit kids from poor families. They vote against anything that will help underserved kids get a foothold in life so they can measure up to others. It’s an endless list of things they’ve done to give the middle finger to kid’s wellbeing.
Why should govt be in the position to be feeding kids for an extended period? The welfare of children should lie mostly on the parent. You gave birth and brought a child to life because you wanted to and believe you can care for them, Do people birth children to do the govt a favor or for govt to help you care for?

Govt run welfare programs should be very short term temporary and very specific set of people. The problem with long-term reliance on welfare can discourage self-sufficiency and personal responsibility which is a core value of conservatives.
Its a party of personal responsibility. The help should be to empower families economically so they can raise and cater for the kids the way they desire, Govt did not force anyone to have families. This is why I am personally pro abortion. Only birth kids you can care for economically and emotionally

The only people that can care for children effectively is the immediate family not govt, strong family units as the primary system for children. conservative Policies favor traditional family values, parental rights in education which are vital for children’s well-being. The breakdown in family structure is the origin of societal problems and the more govt take over the responsibilities of families the worse the society gets

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cococandy(f): 4:52pm On Dec 07, 2024
Gun control laws are not about banning guns. Gun control is about limiting the ability of criminals to access guns especially assault rifles. If all states had equal gun control measures, a criminal who’s prohibited from owning guns in California will not be able to cross over to Florida and obtain them easily. That’s why everyone has to be equally on board or it won’t work.

I own 3 guns. I’m not a bleeding-heart-no-violence-ever liberal. If I need to defend myself, I’m prepared to do that. But at the same time, I’m not emotionally attached to my guns. I also know that gun control measures are not formed against law abiding citizens. That’s a conservative lie than is told to keep people voting for them.

We’re not the only 1st world country in the world yet we’re the ones with highest gun violence and it’s all because of ample access to guns. Americans aren’t inherently more violent. Our lax laws/enforcement just make it easy for criminals to get guns.

Yes I agree with strict enforcement of already existing laws. I also agree with addressing mental health issues. But do you know why our mental health system is worse than it was in the past? Because republicans vote against healthcare access to everyone. As recently as 2022, 205 republican lawmakers voted against mental health access to school children (of course). These kids are the ones shooting up their fellow students. I know they’ll call it welfare. We need to stop seeing things that help people and the society at large as bad because it was made accessible to everyone and paid by tax dollars.

Food for kids in schools is an investment in the future of the country. Children are not expected to be self reliant and personally responsible. Punishing them for their parent’s actions solves nothing. Instead they go hungry and don’t learn. You’re not teaching the parents anything and the kid misses out on opportunities to learn because they’re busy being hungry. That’s a no brainer to me. We can clearly see the difference in countries who do this versus America.

Everything you said in bold sounds good but the problem is that the party you is the opposite of that. It’s one thing to say it but their actions have been anything but consistent with that.

Republican leaders over and over do not show that they have strong family values, they do not endeavors that empower families to provide and also spend more time with their children. They’re the worse at wages. Hence parents have to consistently work 2-3 jobs to put a roof over their heads. Who’s spending time with their kids if they’re working for slave wages? Not people in poor red states I can assure you of that.

They need to be consistent with empowerment projects. Pay livable wages, affordable healthcare (the one you guys just voted against đŸ«Ł), paid parental leave that helps family bonding time. You know, they need to walk the talk. That’s what we want to see. Strong family values is not about having mistresses and voting against women’s rights to leave abusive marriages.
raumdeuter:


Gun control laws do not apply to criminals as they do not operate under the law, these laws instead handicap law abiding citizens from protecting themselves. Solution is not in banning guns but enforcing already existing laws, addressing mental health challenges that make people want to shoot others and increasing school security where potential attackers view as soft targets


Why should govt be in the position to be feeding kids for an extended period? The welfare of children should lie mostly on the parent. You gave birth and brought a child to life because you wanted to and believe you can care for them, Do people birth children to do the govt a favor or for govt to help you care for?

Govt run welfare programs should be very short term temporary and very specific set of people. The problem with long-term reliance on welfare can discourage self-sufficiency and personal responsibility which is a core value of conservatives.
Its a party of personal responsibility. The help should be to empower families economically so they can raise and cater for the kids the way they desire, Govt did not force anyone to have families. This is why I am personally pro abortion. Only birth kids you can care for economically and emotionally

The only people that can care for children effectively is the immediate family not govt, strong family units as the primary system for children. conservative Policies favor traditional family values , parental rights in education which are vital for children’s well-being. The breakdown in family structure is the origin of societal problems and the more govt take over the responsibilities of families the worse the society gets

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cococandy(f): 4:54pm On Dec 07, 2024
Your response to my well thought out post is that it’s an emotional rant? grin

Is it because I’m a woman?

bemeruca:


This your emotional rant is laughable. The only time your side care about women is when they want to use them to take down a republican with a rape allegation or whenever they want to win election with abortion.

From men in women sports men, In women bathrooms; the left is anti women

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cococandy(f): 5:07pm On Dec 07, 2024
raumdeuter:


44% of US women think Trump cares about them and voted for him in the last election.
what they believe and what’s real are not always the same thing though is it?
They also believe women are having abortions up until the birth and beyond. Belief ≠ fact

Not only men harp on this women as well harp on this even notable feminists like JK Rowlings and Martina Navratilova are prominent female voices against the concerns of trans in women spaces.

There are many female who are concerned about the influence of trans people in their spaces and are pushing for it as well


And they can speak. To me their opinion holds more weight because I can understand their thought process even if I don’t agree with them. Better than a man who suddenly cares about women’s spaces.



If biological men(trans) can compete in female sports, then why do we need a category for female sports?

This is an example of such lawsuits by former and current athletes against the NCAA for allowing trans to compete with females


Mind you I haven’t said that all trans women should go and compete in women’s sports. I’m telling you that it’s not the burning issue to all women as you guys want us to believe it is. If conservatives cared about women they would have shown with their actions before now that they care about women. This is red herring if I’ve ever seen one. Distract us with a non-issue while we vote against our future and freedoms

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raumdeuter: 5:21pm On Dec 07, 2024
cococandy:
Gun control laws are not about banning guns. Gun control is about limiting the ability of criminals to access guns especially assault rifles. If all states had equal gun control measures, a criminal who’s prohibited from owning guns in California will not be able to cross over to Florida and obtain them easily. That’s why everyone has to be equally on board or it won’t work.

Most criminals will get guns in America if they want to, These laws do not affect them. Its the regular folks who get hindered by these laws. Its a United state. Each states have varying differences so we cannot have a one size fits all legislation for firearms.

cococandy:
I own 3 guns. I’m not a bleeding-heart-no-violence-ever liberal. If I need to defend myself, I’m prepared to do that. But at the same time, I’m not emotionally attached to my guns. I also know that gun control measures are not formed against law abiding citizens. That’s a conservative lie than is told to keep people voting for them.

Glad to know you are a gun owner, But you have not gone out to commit crimes with your guns. This shows that guns are not the problem, Guns in the hand of law abiding citizens are not the problem. Criminals do not care about laws, If they do, we wont have crimes. No one is emotionally attached to their guns beyond how they are attached to any item of defence or any item that makes your life easier/ better


cococandy:
We’re not the only 1st world country in the world yet we’re the ones with highest gun violence and it’s all because of ample access to guns. Americans aren’t inherently more violent. Our lax laws/enforcement just make it easy for criminals to get guns.

Yes I agree with strict enforcement of already existing laws. I also agree with addressing mental health issues. But do you know why our mental health system is worse than it was in the past? Because republicans vote against healthcare access to everyone. As recently as 2022, 205 republican lawmakers voted against mental health access to school children (of course). These kids are the ones shooting up their fellow students. I know they’ll call it welfare. We need to stop seeing things that help people and the society at large as bad because it was made accessible to everyone and paid by tax dollars.

Why is every liberal solution to any problem has to involve more government? Mental health starts from the home, having a stable family, having community , Not just more and more govt. You have guns, most of your neighbors have guns, gun violence usually increase in areas of poverty and low family involvement in kids lifes and this goes back again to erosion of family values which liberals and democrats like to mock consistently

cococandy:
Food for kids in schools is an investment in the future of the country. Children are not expected to be self reliant and personally responsible. Punishing them for their parent’s actions solves nothing. Instead they go hungry and don’t learn. You’re not teaching the parents anything and the kid misses out on opportunities to learn because they’re busy being hungry. That’s a no brainer to me. We can clearly see the difference in countries who do this versus America.

Again govt should not replace the role of parents. You gave birth to say 2 kids because that's what you can legit care for financially, emotionally and otherwise. Did you give birth to dump them on govt t provide feeding housing and otherwise? The money that will be used is not coming from the sky, its coming from parents who took personal responsibility to have kids they can cater for and cared to be present in the life of their kids. Cococandy has 2 kids, Ramdeter want to have 15 kids because cococandy will be taxed to care for my 15.. If you want to care for 15kids then you will go ahead and have 15 yourself. When we consistently expand govt spending, the country will go broke

cococandy:
Everything you said in bold sounds good but the problem is that the party you is the opposite of that. It’s one thing to say it but their actions have been anything but consistent with that.

Republican leaders over and over do not show that they have strong family values, they do not endeavors that empower families to provide and also spend more time with their children. They’re the worse at wages. Hence parents have to consistently work 2-3 jobs to put a roof over their heads. Who’s spending time with their kids if they’re working for slave wages? Not people in poor red states I can assure you of that.
You have it upside down here. Caring for families start with having the number of kids you can cater for knowing your income, your lifestyle. Your health. You cannot have capacity for 2 kids have 7 and say your income cannot cater for it so employers have to pay you more than your skill level because you have kids or employers have to bend their company policies for you because you have kids.
An example your job ends by 6pm will you say your employer must allow you to leave work by 3pm because you have kids? Having kids and raising them is a choice you made and the society does not have to bend to your choices

They need to be consistent with empowerment projects. Pay livable wages, affordable healthcare (the one you guys just voted against đŸ«Ł), paid parental leave that helps family bonding time. You know, they need to walk the talk. That’s what we want to see. Strong family values is not about having mistresses and voting against women’s rights to leave abusive marriages.


I will not go into how people live their individual lives. They can choose to do whatever they want whether having 100 mistresses, or stay in marriages. As long as they know they are responsible for whatever outcomes they get. You dnt plant maize and reap cassava. Democrats Republicans men women all have affairs as long as you are okay with the risks and benefits
raumdeuter: 5:25pm On Dec 07, 2024
cococandy:
what they believe and what’s real are not always the same thing though is it?
They also believe women are having abortions up until the birth and beyond. Belief ≠ fact

The belief was not plucked from air, its based on policies in states. While I dont argue abortion and I am pro abortion there are states that do not have a limit on when you can abort

And they can speak. To me their opinion holds more weight because I can understand their thought process even if I don’t agree with them. Better than a man who suddenly cares about women’s spaces.

Men and women make laws, Women dont live alone. If these women care about about it, they can co-opt their husbands, brothers sons to also help fight for it

Mind you I haven’t said that all trans women should go and compete in women’s sports. I’m telling you that it’s not the burning issue to all women as you guys want us to believe it is. If conservatives cared about women they would have shown with their actions before now that they care about women. This is red herring if I’ve ever seen one. Distract us with a non-issue while we vote against our future and freedoms

Women group are saying its an issue, you say its a red herring. Are you invalidating their concern? Everyone has a right to be concerned about whatever issue is burning them. Its disrespectful to say some people's concerns are distraction or non issues

What keeps one person up at night is different and my issues are not superior to the other perso
basilico: 5:56pm On Dec 07, 2024
cococandy:
I don’t argue with men on the internet about abortion. If you want to be the exception, explain to me in your own words the difference between the luteal phase and the follicular phase. What kind of changes would you expect and how would a woman cope with each phase?



refer to my previous posts.


There’s a way to get reliable data. 1) See if the sample used in the study is big enough to be a true presentation of the population being studied. How was the sample selected? Is the study peer reviewed?
If I want to quote a website or blog page on here, I read to the bottom of their page to see how they get their information. Statistics is a REQUIRED course in every reputable undergraduate program. And it teaches you how to sift real information from sound bites.

Thank you so much! I am so glad you’re bringing this up. Do you know elevated CO2 levels AKA the green house effect is the main driver of climate change? I’m surprised you acknowledge that CO2 is rising to the level of existential threat but you Trump who shits on climate scientists and calls climate change a hoax.

Which is it Basilico? Is climate change real or not? Will it only get real when Trump finally acknowledges it? He pulled us out of the Paris climate accord that was formed to tackle climate change. He calls climate restoration actions part of woke mind virus because it threatens his environmentally toxic billionaire buddies. You guys have to know what you before lending all your voice and effort to it.


in other words, scientific evidence is no longer trustworthy. And there ladies and gentlemen is how fascism works. Only the one true leader (Trump) knows the truth. If it doesn’t something he says, then it can’t be true.



You guys don’t care about women. If you did, Trump wouldn’t be your choice. Trans women in prisons and in sports might be a minute 0.0000001 of the general population but you harp on it because it’s a talking point for you. It’s not an issue of actual concern about the safety of women for you. If you were concerned, you’d be talking about the fact that just this year alone over 460 thousand women have been sexually abused in the USA alone (RAINN.org).

You cannot scare a reasonable woman into being afraid of trans women when in real life the people we are afraid of are men who don’t take no for an answer. I might feel bamboozled, intrigued or confused when I see a trans woman in real life, but one thing I’ll never be is afraid. You are gonna have to do better by showing us cold hard facts that corroborate how much more trans women are a danger to us than men already are.
When men love and want to protect us, your actions will show it. Words are not enough. And so far y’all’s actions haven’t been taken in of women’s wellbeing.

And in the same vein, you don’t actually care about children. You’re concerned about an impossible hypothetical situation of someone changing their age to molest children but the real life cases of actual child sexual assault cases don’t get your attention. If anything, you the men who have credible cases of child sexual assault cases against them. You were in of Matt Gaetz a few pages back. Pls don’t play with my intelligence.

I'll be brief and these are things I've posted herebyearbon year out.
Basically your views are the same ones I watch on MSNBC it CNN. I also watch 24, Sky, RT , at the same time , different perspectives same story.
Abortion to me is only necessary if lives are in danger. Lefties talk about it like it's another family planning option of over 20 methods freely available to prevent conception. And yes married conservative women are more very likely to get pregnant and abort.
Liberals are like the whole society has to change to accommodate the feelings of a tiny percentage.

Matt Gaetz. I posted a threadreader X summary of exactly what happened. If you are objective and not swayed by liberal bias this should have you fuming at lawfare.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1859748387291107797.html

Climate change is real but it's not from CO2. It's a cyclic pattern I pointed out that greenhouses pump CO2 to make plants grow and produce faster In the Iceage the same scientists say CO2 was much higher than today and dinosaurs being huge and voracious eaters could survive . More CO2 more greening and food from photosynthesis. Summary .All that talk about climate change is crap and a power grab from big oil. Why do you have to stop eating meat, live on 15 minute cities, drive EVs, get digital ID to calculate your carbon footprint, reduce enger flights , have ESG forced on companies .. I could go on

On abortion, Planned parenthood is nothing but a baby murder operation. If a school has to have unisex washrooms to accomodate an individual why should people who don't approve abortions taxes fund abortions?

In 2021-22, abortions made up 97.1 percent of Planned Parenthood’s pregnancy resolution services, while prenatal services, miscarriage care, and adoption referrals ed for only 1.6 percent (6,316), 0.9 percent (3,604), and 0.4 percent (1,721), respectively,” according to the institute’s analysis.

At the same time, American Life League’s STOPP International 2023 Report on Planned Parenthood CEO Compensation shows, using the latest available data, that the total compensation paid to all Planned Parenthood CEOs increased from $13.3 million in 2015 to $16.8 million in 2020 — a 26.3-percent increase.
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bemeruca: 6:01pm On Dec 07, 2024
cococandy:
Your response to my well thought out post is that it’s an emotional rant? grin

Is it because I’m a woman?


What's well thought out about what you posted?
To the bold, You can victimize yourself if you want that's why you guys are losing.

Nobody believes the wolf is coming. Stop crying.

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basilico: 6:17pm On Dec 07, 2024
armyofone:


The name grin grin

Imagine reaching Macy's or Sak 5th Ave, or Nordstrom etc and say
I'm looking for Fight, fight, fight perfume grin

Trump is just trolling. Let's assume that a deep state actor was involved in the attempted assassination. How you think he is feeling right now .
You don't have to warn somebody directly , you can act stupidly but send an ominous warning.
Of all the criminals , how come we still know nothing about that dead shooter? No recent photos . Nothing.
This. https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/12/06/dem-rep-crow-fbi-doj-are-stonewalling-on-first-trump-assassination-attempt/

This guy who shot the health insurance boss. They have terabytes of CCTV footage from the streets, hotels etc already. The moment they catch him., they will dig up who his nanny was in a few days.
basilico: 6:26pm On Dec 07, 2024
happney65:
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Feel free to challenge this.

These numbers are from the household survey at the Department of Labor.

Civilian labor force, Nov. 2023: 168.1 million. Nov 2024: 168.3 million. Up a minuscule 200,000. That is weak.

Labor participation rate, Nov. 2023: 62.8 percent. Nov. 2024: 62.5 percent. Down 0.3 percent. That is weak.

Number of people employed, Nov. 2023: 161.9 million. Nov. 2024: 161.1 million. Down 800,000, not up 2 million, as we are told. That is extremely weak.


Number of unemployed, Nov. 2023: 6.3 million. Nov. 2024: 7.1 million, up 800,000. That is weak.

Unemployment rate, Nov. 2023: 3.7 percent. Nov. 2024: 4.2 percent. That is weak.


Number of people not in the labor force, Nov. 2023: 99.7 million. Nov. 2024: 101.2 million. A drop of 1.5 million. That is very weak

Unemployment rate, adult men over 20, Nov. 2023: 3.7 percent. Nov. 2024, 3.9 percent. That is weak.
Unemployment rate, adult women over 20, Nov. 2023: 3.1 percent. Nov. 2024: 3.9 percent. That is very weak.

Unemployment rate, teenagers, Nov. 2023: 11.4 percent. Nov. 2024: 13.2 percent. Very weak.


White unemployment, Nov. 2023: 3.3 percent. Nov. 2024: 3.8 percent. Weak.

Black unemployment, Nov. 2023: 5.8 percent. Nov. 2024: 6.4 percent. Very weak.

Asian unemployment, Nov. 2023: 3.5 percent. Nov. 2024: 3.8 percent. Weak.

Hispanic unemployment, Nov. 2023: 4.6 percent. Nov. 2024: 5.3 percent. Very weak.

budaatum: 6:36pm On Dec 07, 2024
IjeBos:
Good Read
https://mattlabash.substack.com/p/casting-a-wide-net

The cognitive dissonance of Trump ers never ceases to amaze me.

when you were scared and I kept telling you I had faith in you (the people)?

In a way there weren't enough of you but my faith is unwavering (despite the fact Democrats might lose the next election too).

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