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Villa12:
this is what birth POVERTY. You can have children full house but poor while your friend has 1 or 2 small kids and very conformable. That your friend is better than you

How does this your quote relate to what I type?

Rich or poor, no one should have more than 2 kids as humans...

Drone95:
the vagina reaches it full maturity stage at 35.

And who made that research,abi na your Oluwole research Institute?

HappyNigerian:
So why are you with your SC?

Variety..
The spice of life..

Mrwhite09:
I,am 30 Years old, I am depressed cuz I am unmarried make Una help me get married

Make i drop my aza?

Mr man go and hustle..

You want people to donate for your marriage,na them go still donate for your feeding?

No Worry 55 is not too Late... Kolo

ThaThinka:


So, what if the person hadn't been lucky to find someone suitable at a younger age? I know at least a couple of such.

And another thing: God has the final say! We've heard of middle-aged women giving birth to healthy children, even back in those days.

Everyone don't always get what they want at their desired time. That's life and God knows best.

Well, the story might be different for people who kept marriage on hold when presented with perfect opportunities sha.

ThaThinka:


You're right. But I still believe there are some who were unlucky. For example, those who spent many years with men whom they thought cared but who really didn't.

They friendzoned the ones who cared while wasting time with one that doesn't.

Some younger women still have miscarriages, die during labour or even give birth to deformed babies due to complications during pregnancy.

A relative of mine died while in labour and she was only 22 years old and a friend of mine who got married at the age of 20 was only able to have one child since her marriage... She'd keep having miscarriages whenever they try for another child and she's now in her late 20s... Even with the first child, she had complications during her pregnancy.

You preferring younger women doesn't mean women in their 30s and 40s still can't have healthy children.

DarkJeddi:
The exception doesn't make the rule, knowing a couple of 50 year olds who should have been in their menopause, with healthy babies doesn't invalidate the truth..

Women 35 years and older are at risk of various issues and that has been scientifically proven..

Anyone telling women to wait till their mid 30s to start child bearing is being unrealistic..

Men prefer younger women,they are more fertile with higher chances of having healthy babies..

Moreover your money as a woman gives you no added advantage in securing a quality mate..

Samantha125:
I know two women who naturally had their last born children while in their 50s and the children are healthy.

So having children over the age of 40 might be risky, but it's still possible.

Or the woman can decide to have her eggs frozen until she's found the right man and then have a surrogate carry the children for her... We are far more wiser than our forefathers with the kind of technology we have today.

50??


you must've gotten the age wrong...

At that age, menopause should've kicked in ..

Samantha125:
I don't know.

I thought so. South Africa too: I doubt half the population can afford these things.

kingbee90:

It's either you are still a teenager or your body-count is not more than 7.
Guy,if you have actually bedded a good number of women regardless of their age bracket but not more than 49 yrs, you'll descover that some ladies of 35 have tighter and creamer pussies than some 19 yr Olds.
Age is not a yardstick for pussy measurement.

those are the ones that has long abstained from sex

Nigerian people and marriage age na 5&6

advanceDNA:
.women don start to dey advise their fellow women to be celibate and make their own money??


I never thought this day would come on nairaland....

Nlfpmod come and see something

Reality has dawned on them ..

All credits goes to t-pain ..


T-pain the brain resetter....

Villa12:
my cousin sister got married at 37 to her guy who's 41. Only on social media men don't want single mothers, 35+ women, divorcee etc not in real life

Men do want single mothers ... For fun.

Simps is what you are misconstruing for men ... There is a difference.

Men don't want damaged women only simps do.

Factcheck0001:
i get your point quite alright

But it's better a lady gets married early these days cos many now experience early menopause

Their menopause starts in their 30's

30 keh ..do you know how long your period has to be missing to term it a menopause ...

peri-menopause highest na 45 ... 30 ke ..

Samantha125:
In South Africa, it's illegal to be paying a surrogate mother after she's given birth.

You can only pay for her medical costs and anything related to the pregnancy while she's still pregnant... So it's not that expensive.

That's indeed the legal global standard... I didn't imply otherwise in my post. Just as you said, you can ONLY pay a surrogate mother before she gives birth because it's contractual.

A couple of Westerners (Europeans and Americans) visit India and Thailand for instance to get linked up to potential surrogate mothers because it's much cheaper for them. I was listening to a BBC radio program back in the early 2000s (I ed the podcast on my then older home office PC in order to listen over again) and this Irish couple flew to India and got linked to an Indian surrogate mother who eventually helped them to carry their baby to full term. The Irish lady had some long-term fertility issues and I was impressed by the incredible her Irish spouse gave her. He didn't feel emasculated by what was unfolding.

The BBC further reported that the money the Indian surrogate mother got paid by the Irish couple enabled her to build a brand new house in India, send her kids to school, buy some cows to produce milk and lift her family above the poverty line. It just BLEW me away to realize just how a woman living in India could assist in bringing joy into the lives of an Irish couple living thousand of miles away at a cheaper cost than what obtains in Europe or America, while also changing her own life. Such services are NOT to be taken for granted by mankind tbh.

By the way, what's the average cost (in Rands or USD) of getting a surrogate mother through a fertility clinic in Mzansi?

Late; and be avoided.... Not to have or, live the belief it is not too late. Nb.

Sapasenator:


Don't mind the myopic guy.

yep .. my uncle did 5 before popping out two kids ..

If you're poor, then you shouldn't be thinking about children in the first place, especially when you're still young.

JuanDeDios:

I thought so. South Africa too: I doubt half the population can afford these things.

kingbee90:

It's either you are still a teenager or your body-count is not more than 7.
Guy,if you have actually bedded a good number of women regardless of their age bracket but not more than 49 yrs, you'll descover that some ladies of 35 have tighter and creamer pussies than some 19 yr Olds.
Age is not a yardstick for pussy measurement.

I disagree with u sir.u don’t know what is a teenager Toto.No talk this thg again else I go fight u

Lonestar124:
35years is too far for women to get married oo, to avoid bearing disformed and hormonal imbalance children..

Let's stop misleading our younger generation, we are not wiser than our fore fathers.

Na you be God na...

Samantha125:
Some younger women still have miscarriages, die during labour or even give birth to deformed babies due to complications during pregnancy.

A relative of mine died while in labour and she was only 22 years old and a friend of mine who got married at the age of 20 was only able to have one child since her marriage... She'd keep having miscarriages whenever they try for another child and she's now in her late 20s... Even with the first child, she had complications during her pregnancy.

You preferring younger women doesn't mean women in their 30s and 40s still can't have healthy children.

My sympathies over the transition of your female relative.

Indeed, these "permutations" are NOT set in stone. Some older women above 30 just pop babies anyhow, while younger women in their 20s with narrow birth canals or something else just have a hard time giving birth and vice versa. Doing comprehensive medical checks at the Obgyn and more can help to detect any problems that can complicate future pregnancies.

Samantha125:
If you're poor, then you shouldn't be thinking about children in the first place, especially when you're still young.

The poor should stay off having kids - leave it for the rich. Brilliant idea, if you ask me. Let's add eugenics while we're at it - we might finally achieve a perfect society! Samantha for president!

Last time I checked, there were no average costs for getting a surrogate mother through a fertility clinic... Because the woman has to do it voluntarily so, given that she's well taken cared of during the pregnancy.

I don't know if the laws have now changed.

Konquest:

That's indeed the legal global standard... I didn't imply otherwise in my post. Just as you said, you can ONLY pay a surrogate mother before she gives birth because it's contractual.

A couple of Westerners (Europeans and Americans) visit India and Thailand for instance to get linked up to potential surrogate mothers because it's much cheaper for them. I was listening to a BBC radio program back in the early 2000s (I ed the podcast on my then older home office PC in order to listen over again) and this Irish couple flew to India and got linked to an Indian surrogate mother who eventually helped them to carry their baby to full term. The Irish lady had some long-term fertility issues and I was impressed by the incredible her Irish spouse gave her. He didn't feel emasculated by what was unfolding.

The BBC further reported that the money the Indian surrogate mother got paid by the Irish couple enabled her to build a brand new house in India, send her kids to school, buy some cows to produce milk and lift her family above the poverty line. It just BLEW me away to realize just how a woman living in India could assist in bringing joy into the lives of an Irish couple living thousand of miles away at a cheaper cost than what obtains in Europe or America, while also changing her own life. Such services are NOT to be taken for granted by mankind tbh.

By the way, what's the average cost (in Rands or USD) of getting a surrogate mother through a fertility clinic in Mzansi?

Me become a president? People say I'll become a dictator and subject the entire country to oppression if I happen to become a president one day...

So I don't think that position is for me... But people really shouldn't be thinking about children when poor because they'll only increase the poverty rate.

JuanDeDios:

The poor should stay off having kids - leave it for the rich. Brilliant idea, if you ask me. Let's add eugenics while we're at it - we might finally achieve a perfect society! Samantha for president!

ellizy:

Amen
You're a wonderful brother
Let extend our friendship
Zero703four8five87one9

Will hit you up on WhatsApp later

Merry100:
I advise you to strive for your own financial independence as a woman. Even if you plan to marry a wealthy man, you may still face several disadvantages, as a man can be wealthy yet uncaring and stingy.

Here are a few steps to take:

1. Avoid all forms of distractions during your youth; success should be your only goal. In fact, don't start dating until you are twenty-four or twenty-five, unless you achieve success before then.

2. Either remain celibate or use very effective contraceptives to avoid pregnancy. No matter what you do, try as much as possible to prevent unplanned pregnancies.

3. Don’t allow anyone to pressure you; wait until you are established and successful enough to get married.

Here are a few disadvantages of rushing into marriage as a woman:

1. While you should be comfortably managing your responsibilities, you will end up viewing them as burdens.

2. Your children will not receive the best care.

3. Your husband might perceive you as a burden.

Sometimes, I wonder where these ideologies stem from.

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with a woman striving for financial independence—it’s commendable. But the real question is: what’s the motive?

Take a moment to reflect on this.

A financially independent woman faces her own set of challenges. The reality is, as a woman gets older, her pool of viable options in the dating and marriage market tends to shrink. Add significant wealth into the equation, and the options narrow even further. Men in higher socioeconomic classes typically have their own choices, and this dynamic can complicate relationships.

After dedicating so much time to building financial independence, time may no longer be on her side. Unfortunately, this often places her lower in the proverbial pecking order.

Moreover, many men naturally assess their steps carefully when they find themselves with a partner who is wealthier than they are. While some women might dismiss this as insecurity, let’s be honest—every man wants to feel secure and respected in his own home. He’s not looking for potential conflicts rooted in ego clashes with an “independent” woman.

A real man faces immense challenges daily, negotiating a demanding world to provide and protect. When he returns home, he seeks peace—a sanctuary to recharge for the next battle, not a battleground where his position is questioned or his worth diminished.

Ultimately, the essence of a fulfilling partnership is balance, understanding, and respect—not dominance or competition. Financial independence is a great tool, but without the right perspective and intentions, it can easily become a barrier rather than a blessing.

LordIsaac:

Spice...variety....boredom....

Makes logical sense now.

Villa12:
unfortunately this your mentality is wrong and dead on arrival. Women are not meant to love but respect and be submissive. Men are meant to love unconditionally which supercedes respect.

I get your point. To me respect and submissive should be a default setting in woman. Got no time to start expecting or demanding that.

Samantha125:
Last time I checked, there were no average costs for getting a surrogate mother through a fertility clinic... Because the woman has to do it voluntarily so, given that she's well taken cared of during the pregnancy.

I don't know if the laws have now changed.

Alright then, that's quite revealing. I'll dig up some more specifics on this later today.
I enjoyed reading some of you insights on this thread.

Ciao.

DAramis:


I get your point. To me respect and submissive should be a default setting in woman. Got no time to start expecting or demanding that.

Default setting?

Well as long as love and honour are a default setting with you then thats fine

Lonestar124:
35years is too far for women to get married oo, to avoid bearing disformed and hormonal imbalance children..

Let's stop misleading our younger generation, we are not wiser than our fore fathers.

It’s male old age that causes deformity in children not female old age.

That fact that you have over 200 likes for this comment shows that a lot of people still have some learning to do.

Villa12:
which menopause start for 30s? You be comedian

I b comedian true true