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IjeBos(m): 7:39pm On Oct 29, 2024
raumdeuter:
I thought tariffs were bad when Trump proposed it. Yet Biden has not taken those bad Trump tariffs off

Captain Intellectual Dishonesty strikes again.

No one has said tariffs are bad themselves.
The US has had various tariffs for decades.
The argument is how Trump is attempting to use them exp. saying he would use Tariffs to raise revenue use them instead of an income tax.

The level of dishonesty in your gaslighting is always staggering.
IjeBos(m): 7:45pm On Oct 29, 2024
armyofone:


Even the not funny joke about Latinos was horrible.

No decency! He shouldn't deny him like Judas - it was the gathering of like minded! This man should just go rest.

May madam (ma'am) wins this election so that things will clear out and we can hold hands again as one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.


You think things will change after the election?

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IjeBos(m): 7:47pm On Oct 29, 2024
kingbee90:

So you think all the 1,141,620 female voters who have voted more than men in the 7 swing states all voted for Harris?
These Left people are always high on whatever Kamala smokes.

The exit polls are consistent with that as well as the mood of the electorate.
Women are breaking by a wide margin for Kamala.
If the polling is wrong, I'd say it'd be because they underestimated the anger amongst women in the electorate and thus how many women come out to vote for Harris.

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ObaIgwe1: 7:51pm On Oct 29, 2024
raumdeuter:


What is the date on this news you posted cos this was just released today


So why was it bad when Trump proposed tariffs on Chinese products?

See, tariffs are not bad in itself, every country use it including African countries like Nigeria. The goal is to use it to protect or help local manufacturers on selected goods of National importance. But the general minimum 20% tariff on ALL imports that Trump is asking for is a call for disaster because US is not ready to produce every and all items being imported, so most of the tariff will just fall on consumers.

EU proposals here makes sense, it is specific on EVs not a general tariff on ALL China imports or All imports like Trump is proposing. The EU plan will help EU EVs productions by making the price equal or cheaper to China EVs.
LordReed(m): 7:53pm On Oct 29, 2024
raumdeuter:


What is the date on this news you posted cos this was just released today


So why was it bad when Trump proposed tariffs on Chinese products?

25 October 2024
bemeruca: 8:01pm On Oct 29, 2024
IjeBos:


Fact Check:
A shadow Senator is not a US Senator.
There are 100 US Senators. 2 from each State.
Puerto Rico is not a US State even though the residents are American Citizens.

So a shadow Senator has no power, cannot vote, is not a constitutional position and again is not a US Senator.

Yeah, the sky is blue guys... New information discovered
ObaIgwe1: 8:15pm On Oct 29, 2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do2oTKK1MB8

George W. Bush’s Daughter Barbara Bush Endorses and Campaigns For Kamala Harris

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IjeBos(m): 8:22pm On Oct 29, 2024
ObaIgwe1:


See, tariffs are not bad in itself, every country use it including African countries like Nigeria. The goal is to use it to protect or help local manufacturers on selected goods of National importance. But the general minimum 20% tariff on ALL imports that Trump is asking for is a call for disaster because US is not ready to produce every and all items being imported, so most of the tariff will just fall on consumers.

EU proposals here makes sense, it is specific on EVs not a general tariff on ALL China imports or All imports like Trump is proposing. The EU plan will help EU EVs productions by making the price equal or cheaper to China EVs.

This thread always feels like rational informed people trying to explain to Trump ers basic facts.

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IjeBos(m): 8:25pm On Oct 29, 2024
The polling seems to look good for the blue wall states.

raumdeuter: 8:31pm On Oct 29, 2024
IjeBos:


Captain Intellectual Dishonesty strikes again.

No one has said tariffs are bad themselves.
The US has had various tariffs for decades.
The argument is how Trump is attempting to use them exp. saying he would use Tariffs to raise revenue use them instead of an income tax.

The level of dishonesty in your gaslighting is always staggering.

I know you are retardded and unable to keep up with the Bulshiitt you spew

IjeBos:


Another is the tariffs. You say you care about high prices but tariffs would be inflationary in the short term as companies would have to open up and hire to start producing those goods.


raumdeuter: 8:32pm On Oct 29, 2024
LordReed:


25 October 2024

The Yahoo news I posted is from today which has overtaken the Oct 25 news
raumdeuter: 8:34pm On Oct 29, 2024
ObaIgwe1:


See, tariffs are not bad in itself, every country use it including African countries like Nigeria. The goal is to use it to protect or help local manufacturers on selected goods of National importance. But the general minimum 20% tariff on ALL imports that Trump is asking for is a call for disaster because US is not ready to produce every and all items being imported, so most of the tariff will just fall on consumers.

EU proposals here makes sense, it is specific on EVs not a general tariff on ALL China imports or All imports like Trump is proposing. The EU plan will help EU EVs productions by making the price equal or cheaper to China EVs.

This was you a few weeks ago on the tariff issue

ObaIgwe1:


You are not getting the full picture. Let me break it down for you as simple as I can.

Raising import tariffs is a 2 edged sword and not something you just do with a temperament of someone like Trump, else you will only hurt the people, because the extra tariff will be added to the price of the product and Americans instead of China will be paying more.

Raising tariffs is only effective when you are trying to discourage imports of certain products AFTER you have empowered your local manufacturers to meet ALL available demands of those products. And where this is successful, imports will drop and consequently Government will make nothing or less from those tariffs.

The problem with Trump proposal is that he is talking about raising tariffs and not saying anything about improving local manufacturers. Also he is budgeting on the high income that will come from the high tariffs, those were the figures he was talking about when talking about meeting child care costs (even though he missed the core of the question on child care).

Bottom line is that you cannot expect your local productions to grow and still expect great income from high tariffs. It's one or the other. If he gets the income he is expecting from those tariffs, American will be paying it and not China. And this will also increase inflation he wishes to bring down.

Hope you get it now, else forget about it.

And Trump proposal on tariff is to encourage local production and create jobs in the country

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ObaIgwe1: 8:50pm On Oct 29, 2024
bemeruca:


And this
Cc: Obrigardo, feedthenation, Obalgwe1 and ijebos



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4EgGi3i_fg

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bemeruca: 8:52pm On Oct 29, 2024
ObaIgwe1:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4EgGi3i_fg

if he is on CNN it is because he is irrelevant grin grin

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Obrigardo: 8:53pm On Oct 29, 2024
Rapist fascist trump is so exhausted and tired. A swanky old man still on Adderalls, obese and a vulgar small man, a weak man's version of a strong man.

He's rolling jan 6th again. That's how he started in 2017 questioning the vote and it all ended with stop the steal in 2020.

This was how basilico loco started spreading election fraud conspiracy theories.

Watch - https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1851285599455457725?t=EGgEzcHQ5oQRVTD8ZvlBWA&s=19

Obrigardo: 8:56pm On Oct 29, 2024
For those of us in the real world, seeing how things are playing out with real time data, I would say this tracks to all I've been saying.

This race will not be close.

ObaIgwe1: 8:58pm On Oct 29, 2024
raumdeuter:


This was you a few weeks ago on the tariff issue



And Trump proposal on tariff is to encourage local production and create jobs in the country

There is no difference in the 2 posts. My point is that tariff has to be used effectively to achieve a certain objective. But when it is generally applied just for the purpose of raising revenue instead of it as a measure of encouraging local production, it becomes a call for disaster.

You cannot impose a blanket tariff on ALL imports when you cannot produce or meet all your local demand internally. It will not work, that is simply common sense economics.

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Obrigardo: 9:06pm On Oct 29, 2024
Imagine basilico loco and his maga cultists worship and raves in the presence of a rapist fascist felon who joyed and made jokes about this attack on Nancy's husband.

You are a weak man if the rapist trump is your standard. Weak! Like a flaccid dick!

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ObaIgwe1: 9:07pm On Oct 29, 2024
Obrigardo:
For those of us in the real world, seeing how things are playing out with real time data, I would say this tracks to all I've been saying.

This race will not be close.

You could be right, the polls underestimated Democrats by 4 points in the swing states during the midterm election of 2022, they predicted red wave that didn't happen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXqkj-q7zks&t=587s

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IjeBos(m): 9:14pm On Oct 29, 2024
ObaIgwe1:


You could be right, the polls underestimated Democrats by 4 points in the swing states during the midterm election of 2022, they predicted red wave that didn't happen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXqkj-q7zks&t=587s

Some of that were a lot of these Republican polls they put out to muck up the averages so Dems could spend money where they didn't need to and not in places they should have.

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Obrigardo: 9:16pm On Oct 29, 2024
ObaIgwe1:


You could be right, the polls underestimated Democrats by 4 points in the swing states during the midterm election of 2022, they predicted red wave that didn't happen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXqkj-q7zks&t=587s

The rapist has so many things working against him now than for him
They are just getting to witness the visceral reaction of voters. I can tell you confidently that second time voters for the rapist are changing their votes. I guess voters have had enough.

My edge was on the silent voters, the never and anti maga republicans, a sizeable number of at least nikki Haley voters 35% of 300k+. I'll bet the number has grown. But now I'm thinking the Latino vote could be a significant deathknell when the exit polls are read.

There's no way the rapist fascist is winning new votes. Nope.
IjeBos(m): 9:21pm On Oct 29, 2024
This is so disrespectful of Harris. She is the Vice President
Rogan never wanted to interview her or he would have went to her for even an hour if that's what she wanted.
I believe when she did the Call me Daddy podcast, they build a set in a hotel room to accommodate Harris's schedule.

Obrigardo: 9:21pm On Oct 29, 2024
IjeBos:


Some of that were a lot of these Republican polls they put out to muck up the averages so Dems could spend money where they didn't need to and not in places they should have.

Kamala never took the bait. I'll bet she has a security team that knows what the rapist dirty deeds are. They know what corey lewandoski can do.
Corey has openly implied they did this polling fraud in 2016.

But Kamala kept waltzing through the Blue wall to reel in disaffected republicans. That is more than what President Biden did in 2020 and what Clinton never did in 2016 yet she won the popular vote.

So what I'm saying is that the rapist racist fascist trump is a confirmed sore loser. I'll be making a deal with the DOJ like yesterday if I were him.

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IjeBos(m): 9:34pm On Oct 29, 2024
Great listen:
A caller calls in and the Radio Host asks them "When was America Great".
https://x.com/BmbEmpower/status/1851088248237670851

I just saw this picture and whenever I think of Make America Great again, it's what I'll think of.
Because when was America Great for Black people?
Because for Black people in the US, a future that holds the dream of equality and progress is where America is better.

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raumdeuter: 10:15pm On Oct 29, 2024
bemeruca: 10:41pm On Oct 29, 2024
raumdeuter:
Well said by Mayor Adams

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1851306466763747387

the fascists dictators are gonna jail him
Obrigardo: 11:13pm On Oct 29, 2024
Where is our voter fraud expert, basilico loco, when you need his expertise?

Obrigardo: 11:17pm On Oct 29, 2024
The old swanky man should start storing up diapers for his jail cell.

LordReed(m): 11:25pm On Oct 29, 2024
bemeruca:


Go and edit wiki

This is the list of all of Congress:
https://www.congress.gov/

Her name is not there but keep arguing, dumdum.
LordReed(m): 11:31pm On Oct 29, 2024
Meanwhile, Elon is hoping for the US economy to crash.

bemeruca: 11:39pm On Oct 29, 2024
LordReed:


This is the list of all of Congress:
https://www.congress.gov/

Her name is not there but keep arguing, dumdum.

Where did I claim she is a formal senator of the United States?
try not to deceive yourself. Wiki says she is a shadow Senate (A kind of senator)
write Wikipedia and tell them you are not happy and they are wrong
bemeruca: 11:40pm On Oct 29, 2024
LordReed:
Meanwhile, Elon is hoping for the US economy to crash.

Liar

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