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Botragelad:

This statement is really silly! Paying bride price is a cultural tradition, not a way to buy a person. It's like a wedding gift, not a purchase.

When parents accept gifts or money, it doesn't mean they're giving up their child's freedom. It's a kind gesture, not a contract. And with goats and chickens being mentioned, do you really think the number of animals traded decides how much control someone has? That's ridiculous! Get rid of such outdated way of thinking.

like you so said wedding is a gift so, you use your own earn money to pay for gifts abi if your not told when you pay for something you own it that's the rule, is like going to the market to buy a cloth after paying for it someone is saying it's a gift and culture does that make sense to you at all 🤔 hope ur normal.

Botragelad:

This statement is really silly! Paying bride price is a cultural tradition, not a way to buy a person. It's like a wedding gift, not a purchase.

When parents accept gifts or money, it doesn't mean they're giving up their child's freedom. It's a kind gesture, not a contract. And with goats and chickens being mentioned, do you really think the number of animals traded decides how much control someone has? That's ridiculous! Get rid of such outdated way of thinking.

Bride price is not a wedding gift. Please stop!

Its an obligation that a man must perform to the bride's family in order for them to consent to the marriage.

If they later divorce, the bride price is sent back to the groom's family.

This tells you it is not a gift.

Antoeni:
Ladies f you are not ready to be LOYAL AND SUBMISSIVE to a man, stay single and be m!ser@ble.

If a man can't tell you what to do, stay in your father's house and suffer with a Love Machine every night for the rest of your life

lexy2014:


how is what you responded to a comment?

when did questions become comments?

dont you know the difference?

If you own children, does that mean they are your slaves?

oboy,, your wife is not your slave, is it your children that will be your slave? Please use your own head small and stop asking silly Questions...

If we are to be honest,what he said is nothing but the simple truth!

Let me also shock you that no woman will ever rate or value any man who is not incharge or in control of a relationship or marriage!

Botragelad:
Do people actually give credence to what these individuals say? How laughable!

Marriage is intended to be a partnership, distinct from the ownership and control inherent in slavery, I believe. Yet, individuals like this perpetuate sexist ideologies that blur these lines.

If someone finds themselves in a volatile and abusive relationship, where they feel 'owned' or controlled by their spouse, how can they possibly escape? Does he not comprehend the fundamental human rights that are violated by 'owning' another person?

Marriage is not a partnership the two people involved do not have equal rights

heniford2:
like you so said wedding is a gift so, you use your own earn money to pay for gifts abi if your not told when you pay for something you own it that's the rule, is like going to the market to buy a cloth after paying for it someone is saying it's a gift and culture does that make sense to you at all 🤔 hope ur normal.

A wedding gift is a symbolic gesture, not a transactional exchange. It's akin to a graduation present, not a purchase.

Again, your market analogy is a straw man argument. In a market transaction, ownership is transferred through a mutually agreed-upon exchange. In a wedding, the "gift" is a token of celebration, not a purchase agreement. Apples and oranges, my dear fellow!

To be sincere, your reliance on simplistic "rules" and analogies betrays a lack of intellectual curiosity. The world is not reducible to binary platitudes. Context, nuance, and cultural understanding are essential to meaningful discourse.

By the way, you are incoherent. Work on your vocabulary.

What any pastor says is irrelevant tho.

Some pastor are not to speak on some issues

Most men that have this opinion are threatened by women and religion is their way of masking it.

Just like the Arabs that do everything to subjugate their women and keep power out of their hands.

Too many men with fragile egos.

SSpeter:
Marriage is not a partnership the two people involved do not have equal rights

Looking at what the Bible says.... The two shall become one...
Though after the eating of the fruit... God's verdict says he will be your head...
Wife respect your husband, husband love your wife.
You can respect without love but you can't love without respect.

If you're claiming no equal right which I don't love to, they don't truly but your wife is your help meet... Majority of the work is on you

pastor be mixing up doctrines, truths and laws.

Botragelad:

This statement is really silly! Paying bride price is a cultural tradition, not a way to buy a person. It's like a wedding gift, not a purchase.

When parents accept gifts or money, it doesn't mean they're giving up their child's freedom. It's a kind gesture, not a contract. And with goats and chickens being mentioned, do you really think the number of animals traded decides how much control someone has? That's ridiculous! Get rid of such outdated way of thinking.

Sorry to say but you don't know how stupid you sound by saying bride price is like wedding gift, gifts that you will mandate someone to pay or he won't marry your daughter,i assume you have not witnessed the bargaining aspect, especially when you meet a greedy hungry father in-law, infact what's the meaning of bride price?

Ooooh Boy!!!

Gbambastically

Botragelad:

A wedding gift is a symbolic gesture, not a transactional exchange. It's akin to a graduation present, not a purchase.

Again, your market analogy is a straw man argument. In a market transaction, ownership is transferred through a mutually agreed-upon exchange. In a wedding, the "gift" is a token of celebration, not a purchase agreement. Apples and oranges, my dear fellow!

To be sincere, your reliance on simplistic "rules" and analogies betrays a lack of intellectual curiosity. The world is not reducible to binary platitudes. Context, nuance, and cultural understanding are essential to meaningful discourse.

By the way, you are incoherent. Work on your vocabulary.

Kizzygentle:
I don't this in every form. This man should be stripped from been a pastor abeg. I'm a guy and this is the worst thing I have heard his year. Women may want equality with men which is wrong but u saying women are owned by theor husband and should not be friends with the husband is totally unacceptable. Please drop the mic and never climb a pulpit again..

He was talking to Worshipers , he wasn’t talking to the whole world ..

It’s like saying you don’t like to hear preachers asking for money, when the Holy book emphasizes giving.

If you ain’t a Christian , it’s not for you.
Take a seat

saddler:


Bride price is not a wedding gift. Please stop!

Its an obligation that a man must perform to the bride's family in order for them to consent to the marriage.

If they later divorce, the bride price is sent back to the groom's family.

This tells you it is not a gift.

The return of the bride price in case of divorce doesn't necessarily imply ownership, but rather serves as a symbolic reversal of the union, acknowledging the dissolution of the marriage bond. Correct?

My analogy aimed to highlight the distinction between a cultural tradition (bride price) and a transactional exchange (ownership). Hence the wedding gift example. Understood?

nlfpmod:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWhPaSoIyuA

I own my wife!

Botragelad:

A wedding gift is a symbolic gesture, not a transactional exchange. It's akin to a graduation present, not a purchase.

Again, your market analogy is a straw man argument. In a market transaction, ownership is transferred through a mutually agreed-upon exchange. In a wedding, the "gift" is a token of celebration, not a purchase agreement. Apples and oranges, my dear fellow!

To be sincere, your reliance on simplistic "rules" and analogies betrays a lack of intellectual curiosity. The world is not reducible to binary platitudes. Context, nuance, and cultural understanding are essential to meaningful discourse.

By the way, you are incoherent. Work on your vocabulary.

all this grammar you typed here for simple logical stuff which even ur forefather s are aware of even the creation of earth are aware of when you pay for a service you get the service, you buy something you own it.

it doesn't become a gift, never if you pay for a land it becomes your property your own so your wife.

it's your property believe it or leave it you own it unless you never paid for it either on traditional way or any way as far as money was done and an agreement was ed forget it, you cam twist it but that's end game

Botragelad:
Do people actually give credence to what these individuals say? How laughable!

Marriage is intended to be a partnership, distinct from the ownership and control inherent in slavery, I believe. Yet, individuals like this perpetuate sexist ideologies that blur these lines.

If someone finds themselves in a volatile and abusive relationship, where they feel 'owned' or controlled by their spouse, how can they possibly escape? Does he not comprehend the fundamental human rights that are violated by 'owning' another person?

They are just ignoramuses, preaching to ignorant people.


Why would a man even wanna own his wife? The man must be hopeless and low esteemed.

Botragelad:
Do people actually give credence to what these individuals say? How laughable!

Marriage is intended to be a partnership, distinct from the ownership and control inherent in slavery, I believe. Yet, individuals like this perpetuate sexist ideologies that blur these lines.

If someone finds themselves in a volatile and abusive relationship, where they feel 'owned' or controlled by their spouse, how can they possibly escape? Does he not comprehend the fundamental human rights that are violated by 'owning' another person?

This is the useless definition from woke lunatics. Little wonder marriages don't last nowadays. People are divorcing every now and then.

Marriage is not a partnership. Women should submit and worship their husbands. God created marriage and defined the , but woke lunatics are redefining it to suit their narratives. Marriage isn't meant for everyone.

Botragelad:
Do people actually give credence to what these individuals say? How laughable!

Marriage is intended to be a partnership, distinct from the ownership and control inherent in slavery, I believe. Yet, individuals like this perpetuate sexist ideologies that blur these lines.

If someone finds themselves in a volatile and abusive relationship, where they feel 'owned' or controlled by their spouse, how can they possibly escape? Does he not comprehend the fundamental human rights that are violated by 'owning' another person?

Please quote Bible ages that your opinion

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When the moniker you quoted wrote suffer with a love machine ,honestly I just bursted out laughing because some of this love machines are better champions than some men.

If only he knows that there are women who have faked orgasm's for 30 years and have never experienced it from a husband.He won't even go that route.

A healthy relationship between a man and a woman is beautiful but men should never think a woman cannot do without them.Its the height of stupidity.

Badexx:


Sorry to say but you don't know how stupid you sound by saying bride price is like wedding gift, gifts that you will mandate someone to pay or he won't marry your daughter,i assume you have not witnessed the bargaining aspect, especially when you meet a greedy hungry father in-law, infact what's the meaning of bride price?

IWhen I likened the bride price to a wedding gift, I was attempting to highlight the symbolic nature of the practice, rather than its literal interpretation.

In many cultures, the bride price represents a token of appreciation, and unity between families, much like a wedding gift symbolizes love and commitment between partners. That was my point.

Botragelad:

Were you forced? Simple sense. 😂

You see how dumb you sound, in a simple English, what's the meaning of bride price?

Botragelad:

Yes, the Bible!
In your head you think everyone practice the same faith as yourself! Lol

😏 First of, you need to sharpen your comprehensive skills to detect sacarsm better. Secondly, the man is reading to you from a play book where women where offered up to be raped instead of the men and you expect his pov not to be misogynistic?! Thirdly, yes "good christains" force everyone else to view the world through their narrow minded POVs.

No human can own another human.

Botragelad:

IWhen I likened the bride price to a wedding gift, I was attempting to highlight the symbolic nature of the practice, rather than its literal interpretation.

In many cultures, the bride price represents a token of appreciation, and unity between families, much like a wedding gift symbolizes love and commitment between partners. That was my point.

And I'm telling you that you're my property once I paid your bride price, that's my understanding and that's final

heniford2:
all this grammar you typed here for simple logical stuff which even ur forefather s are aware of even the creation of earth are aware of when you pay for a service you get the service, you buy something you own it.

it doesn't become a gift, never if you pay for a land it becomes your property your own so your wife.

it's your property believe it or leave it you own it unless you never paid for it either on traditional way or any way as far as money was done and an agreement was ed forget it, you cam twist it but that's end game

Cave man. A wife is not a commodity to be owned, but a partner in a mutually consenting relationship.

heniford2:
all this grammar you typed here for simple logical stuff which even ur forefather s are aware of even the creation of earth are aware of when you pay for a service you get the service, you buy something you own it.

it doesn't become a gift, never if you pay for a land it becomes your property your own so your wife.

it's your property believe it or leave it you own it unless you never paid for it either on traditional way or any way as far as money was done and an agreement was ed forget it, you cam twist it but that's end game

I didn't know your forefathers sold humans or bought their wives. So you want to carry on buying and selling wives in 2024

No worries, how many daughters do you have? I would like to come buy all of them, shall we start bargaining the prices of each of your daughters now or when i see them to make sure they are worth atleast $300 or less.


You are soooo backwards, man!

Badexx:



And I'm telling you that you're my property once I paid your bride price, that's my understanding and that's final

Your understanding is limited. Not final.

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Twoclans:


When the moniker you quoted wrote suffer with a love machine ,honestly I just bursted out laughing because some of this love machines are better champions than some men.

If only he knows that there are women who have faked orgasm's for 30 years and have never experienced it from a husband.He won't even go that route.

A healthy relationship between a man and a woman is beautiful but men should never think a woman cannot do without them.Its the height of stupidity.

Same way men can do without you people too