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typicalgamer:


The fact that the most view clip from copa America was vini showboating and that Argentina player that catch leg

Euros and copa have been nothing sort of underwhelming

I've enjoyed Copa highlights than Euro.

There are some Euro highlights I've watched which are so watery. I feel a rush more energy when I see a Copa highlights or is it the fiery commentary and mad tackles. I've enjoyed Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil. There's this Brighton boy in Paraguay, Enciso, boy is so good.

mostob:
You think so?

I believe a country with three continental titles should be placed above a country with 1 world cup title . Also considering that they've only reached a final twice ( one in the WC they won and the Euros final against Italy the second one).

Amedino99:
I believe a country with three continental titles should be placed above a country with 1 world cup title . Also considering that they've only reached a final twice ( one in the WC they won and the Euros final against Italy the second one).

True...

So Spain played TIKI TAKA today.🤣

What happened to Spain ditching Tiki Taka.

TheSuperNerd:
Spain really showing Champions Potential. Their winger choices of Yamal and Nico since the tournament began show a switch to pacy, powerful, tricky and direct wing threats. No more of the predominantly tippy tappy 1-2s from the channels. Their wingers will drive directly at your defense. No time!!!

Georgia punched well against their weight against Portugal to get here but it was always gonna be their last busstop.

When I said Spain were more direct now, Joe took up arms

This is the first time since 2010WC I'd be rooting for Spain

TheGoodJoe:
So Spain played TIKI TAKA today.🤣

What happened to Spain ditching Tiki Taka.

Which tikitaka

Odunayaw:
Which tikitaka

TheGoodJoe:

Make police no carry the two of us from here

Odunayaw:
Make police no carry the two of us from here

😃😅😃🤣

I will just Chinese kick you and the police.

Odunayaw:
When I said Spain were more direct now, Joe took up arms

This is the first time since 2010WC I'd be rooting for Spain

There is a difference between playing direct football and being more direct. No the difference and have peace of mind.

Goke7:


was that game an upset or not?

Not it’s not saw it coming from a mile away

TheGoodJoe:
So Spain played TIKI TAKA today.🤣

What happened to Spain ditching Tiki Taka.

which tiki taka ??

So England hold more possession over Slovakia is tiki taka too ?

TheGoodJoe:


There is a difference between playing direct football and being more direct. No the difference and have peace of mind.

What is this

typicalgamer:
which tiki taka ??

So England hold more possession over Slovakia is tiki taka too ?

My description of Tiki Taka is heavy possession football. The emphasis is on possession. You can't have heavy possession without playing the possession ing game.

Secondly, people keep talking about fast wingers. Biko nu, what does Guardiola do with Bernardo Silva and Doku on the wings?

I have said it before, different coaches have different variants. What is key are the principles of build up play. Transitioning faster does not take the principles away.

Odunayaw:
What is this

Just learn before you collect axe kick. I am in a violent mood this night.

Odunayaw:
What is this

Luis Enrique is more direct in his transition and attacking play than Guardiola. That does not mean that Enrique is not a heavy possession coach. This also does not mean Enrique plays direct football.

Guardiola is more direct at Manchester City than he was at Barcelona. That does not mean Guardiola is playing direct football at Manchester City.

TheSuperNerd:
Spain really showing Champions Potential. Their winger choices of Yamal and Nico since the tournament began show a switch to pacy, powerful, tricky and direct wing threats. No more of the predominantly tippy tappy 1-2s from the channels. Their wingers will drive directly at your defense. No time!!!

Georgia punched well above their weight against Portugal to get here but it was always gonna be their last busstop.

Yeah that is the issue. Spain don't use explosive wingers/strikers. That is why they sometimes struggle to score. They should leave the ing to their midfielders. In the last third of the pitch you have to explode and try and score.
I don't think it is a total abandonment of tiki taka but a modification.
I may be wrong as u have not really watched them in this euro but what is your opinion

Fisayo to Lazio done and dusted!!!

Starboytwo:
For comparism sake.

I was of the opinion that Afcon was more sweeter. Good Football, Goals, ion etc.

I have not really put body for this Euro, only livescore, highlights and news. A friend here disagree and feels this Euro dwarf the afcon with e. G level of football. He said all small European teams are not small again. Every nation now na baller etc.

But we've seen less goal overall in Euro, Big teams not sparking etc.

Your opinions pls.

Afcon was sweeter. Euro 2020 was sweeter than this current Euro

TheGoodJoe:


My description of Tiki Taka is heavy possession football. The emphasis is on possession. You can't have heavy possession without playing the possession ing game.

Secondly, people keep talking about fast wingers. Biko nu, what does Guardiola do with Bernardo Silva and Doku on the wings?

I have said it before, different coaches have different variants. What is key are the principles of build up play. Transitioning faster does not take the principles away.

This is where I disagree with you. For you possession football = tiki taka.

Is it tiki taka that Klopp plays?

Mujtahida:

This is where I disagree with you. For you possession football = tiki taka.

Is it tiki taka that Klopp plays?

We have possession football. That is where Tiki Taka and it's modifications fall under. Also, other possession dominant system. Playing to dominate possession and keep the ball is possession football. Even Klopp plays possession football.

Tiki Taka has a higher emphasis on keeping the ball. From Pep Guardiola's statement. He who controls the ball, controls the game. That is why I used the term Heavy possession football to describe Tiki Taka.

From my theory, 60% and above is Tiki Taka because it takes a lot of ing play to get to that regards.

This is an overview. There is still more to it.

Finito.

TheGoodJoe:


Luis Enrique is more direct in his transition and attacking play than Guardiola. That does not mean that Enrique is not a heavy possession coach. This also does not mean Enrique plays direct football.

Guardiola is more direct at Manchester City than he was at Barcelona. That does not mean Guardiola is playing direct football at Manchester City.

No wound me with talk

https://theanalyst.com/na/2024/06/spain-free-of-tiki-taka-shackles-euro-2024/

Sweet AFCON

Left to Caf to tilt all this positive vibes and use it to make AFCON a even more better tournament with a commercial leaning than before.

V Spain... Pk loading. But if na Kai wan use win the match... 16 clear cut and biggest chances, 17missed, score 1.

This Swiss team will give England bigggg problems. Their set up is way more fluid and play up well.

🇳🇬 Victor Osimhen’s plan is still to leave Napoli this summer as movement is expected soon.

After quiet June, Napoli expect proposals to arrive for Osimhen as he could be on the move; the release clause is around €120m.

Preference for Premier League but story still open.

#fabrizioromano

mostob:
If not for NFF, Nigeria would have been more successful than England. Na the EPL dey give them mouth.

who stone me?

Which Nigerian player will enter the England team I don't see one ❓

Englands problem is a dead boring manager who Lacks innovation he is conservative and too emotive with his players selection.

TheGoodJoe:


We have possession football. That is where Tiki Taka and it's modifications fall under. Also, other possession dominant system. Playing to dominate possession and keep the ball is possession football. Even Klopp plays possession football.

Tiki Taka has a higher emphasis on keeping the ball. From Pep Guardiola's statement. He who controls the ball, controls the game. That is why I used the term Heavy possession football to describe Tiki Taka.

From my theory, 60% and above is Tiki Taka because it takes a lot of ing play to get to that regards.

This is an overview. There is still more to it.

Finito.

It is specifically that tiki taka variant of possession football that disgusts me not possession football per se. Like I like maize but not white maize. Gerrit?

After weeks of thinking about the Super Eagles my final conclusion is we need to forget this dream of playing beautiful football and just try to win games. Basically what I'm saying is we need to get back to ABF

Mujtahida:

It is specifically that tiki taka variant of possession football that disgusts me not possession football per se. Like I like maize but not white maize. Gerrit?

Is there really any difference between tiki-taka and posession football?

Tiki-taka is just a slang that emerged as dominant teams started to retain possession for as long as possible while moving the attack forward to break heavy defenses of smaller teams since 'negative football' started becoming an effective counter measure for them. The most efficient way to break a compact defense is a compact attack.

And tbh, this idea of team patterns doesn't even make a lot of sense. A lot of it is just being propagated by the media. You'll never hear any top manager talking about playing pattern or style. Football is dynamic and is mostly based on exploitative and reactive strategies, and that depends a lot team/individual skills and that of the opponent you're playing. In fact most of the strategy coaches employ goes unnoticed by the fans and media. Only trained eyes can catch it. All football teams play that 'tiki-taka' at one point or the other when the flow of the game makes it possible.

By trying to hold possesion in your opponents half, you out them and create attacking chances that can be exploited. It is easier to do that than to try to dribble your way through. In fact, most dribbles only work after the chances have been created by es.

JohnBullMySon:


Is there really any difference between tiki-taka and posession football?

Tiki-taka is just a slang that emerged as dominant teams started to retain possession for as long as possible while moving the attack forward to break heavy defenses of smaller teams since 'negative football' started becoming an effective counter measure for them. The most efficient way to break a compact defense is a compact attack.

And tbh, this idea of team patterns doesn't even make a lot of sense. A lot of it is just being propagated by the media. You'll never hear any top manager talking about playing pattern or style. Football is dynamic and is mostly based on exploitative and reactive strategies, and that depends a lot team/individual skills and that of the opponent you're playing. In fact most of the strategy coaches employ goes unnoticed by the fans and media. Only trained eyes can catch it. All football teams play that 'tiki-taka' at one point or the other when the flow of the game makes it possible.

By trying to hold possesion in your opponents half, you out them and create attacking chances that can be exploited. It is easier to do that than to try to dribble your way through. In fact, most dribbles only work after the chances have been created by es.

Does Klopp play possession football? Yes. Does he play tiki taka? No!

Samba was a joyful, exhilarating possession style of football. Was it tiki taka? No!

Tiki taka is that mechanistic, atomized style of football where es more than an any other aspect of the game predominate.

BascoVanVeli:
After weeks of thinking about the Super Eagles my final conclusion is we need to forget this dream of playing beautiful football and just try to win games. Basically what I'm saying is we need to get back to ABF

Ya eyes don open Abi?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Odunayaw:
No wound me with talk

https://theanalyst.com/na/2024/06/spain-free-of-tiki-taka-shackles-euro-2024/

I will read the article later but from a glance, he is rooting his point on Spain's average possession being lower than some teams. However, the writer likely is missing out factors like other teams getting better in defending heavy possession and the lack of control Spain had against Croatia.

Losing out in possession is not ditching the system. It meant the Croatians played it better.

Ditching means abandoning the system and De La Fuente is actually a heavy possession coach, but with a more attacking variant.

Not that Spain has ditched the system.

Odunayaw:
No wound me with talk

https://theanalyst.com/na/2024/06/spain-free-of-tiki-taka-shackles-euro-2024/

My point is that Spain did not ditch Tiki Taka but play it in a more attacking variant. However, in the game against Croatia, Spain were dominated possessively and not ditched the system.