NewStats: 3,262,279 , 8,176,708 topics. Date: Sunday, 01 June 2025 at 05:26 PM 4x6e55

Adeboye wan cheat my guy. No gree oo

AdesegunSanni89:
Maybe not but he mobilized the funds that built the church. Many of the rich church attend that parish because of him so that edifice is his handiwork

Not so correct. A lot of people would contribute because it is RCCG. Has nothing to do with personal relationships. The edifice is his handiwork not GOD's? Thank GOD for Solomon in the Bible.

dalitigator:


Is it allowed to go outside a particular ministry God placed you? From my experience, it is not allowed. But you are allowed to educate my ignorance.

Is RCCG a ministry or a business centre?

Didi2d:


Lol..

This reminds me of a story I read some years back about big time winners church pastor anchoring a Ghana branch.
I think the Ghana branch was big and doing so well, almost same issue occurred and the and this pastor stops sending tithes and other information to the headquarters in Nigeria.
Daddy sent emissaries, Senior pastor to Ghana, just to remind this said pastor, still he refuses.

After everything, the pastor went to court, won the case and now he has re name that branch, making it his own church.

You can Google it, to get the full story

For those looking for the end of this story.

Oyedepo was never of the law suit. The Pastor did win the case but was asked to return all church properties acquired within a period

Anyways at the end, He still came to apologize. Real Pastoral work cannot be done in the energy of the flesh, baba must have seen it.

These people are theives. How can Nigeria progress while some fools donate to these theives.

Didi2d:


Lol..

This reminds me of a story I read some years back about big time winners church pastor anchoring a Ghana branch.
I think the Ghana branch was big and doing so well, almost same issue occurred and the and this pastor stops sending tithes and other information to the headquarters in Nigeria.
Daddy sent emissaries, Senior pastor to Ghana, just to remind this said pastor, still he refuses.

After everything, the pastor went to court, won the case and now he has re name that branch, making it his own church.

You can Google it, to get the full story

I ed that story. A similar incident happened to MFM Church in the US too, but I believe they won the case.

Events like these gave church owners the sense to duly their churches with the appropriate authorities and also obtain a certificate of occupancy for any of their buildings.

Jagaban2012:
Idowu Iluyomade reg ...

I know ID ...he is so proud of himself, he is a GO of himself in that particular church ....perhaps he is coming back to send RCCG away from that big Edifice.....he is a lawyer he can decide to institute a law suite against RCCG. but whatever contrary efforts he is making against the RCCG God will turn it to foolishness....
RCCG brought him to.lightlime. And he should also be read to serve in a remote area.....

Gospel work is not only about Ikoyi, VI ...and other fine places ....there are many pastor colleagues in the bush area and villages....even Jesus went to Bethsida to preach ....this is a remote area where low income people stay in Israel ....

ID must be able to be flexible and adaptable to all terrain if truly he is serving God ...and not for personal gain

A Law Suit on what grounds?

He was transferred, he didn't like it, he resigned. Case closed.

Skydivine:
People would say he proposed the parish under the grace of the GO . However, they must be something in him that attracts super rich people.
Someone that has dined and wine with mighty of the society is not just an everyday guy. He is not a push over.
Envy is the bedrock of this backlash. So many woujd want that position but a very few can sustain it .
May God not let us build for another to occupy.

Jesus is the source but he uses men...if u take the man the sheep scatters...but that is why men of God are advised to marry rightly..cos ur wife's can end up being a torn in the flesh and it ur Ministry short.

ekhai:
THIS IS THE QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK. HOW CAN THE DEATH OF SOMEBODY AFFECTS THE PLAN OF ANOTHER PERSON. THAT MEANS IN THE RCCG, CLASS MATTERS. I PITY THE FINANCIALLY POOR OF THE CHURCH WHOSE DEATH WON'T BE NOTICED.

Some of you lots lack empathy, people would have called for the same for the poor member suppose there are evidences he was instrumental in some ways to the success of the place. It's not about Wigwe being Rich, there are other rich people that do not assist people with their money. It's about his philanthropy to the place , that's why people said he should have been shown some honor

gtassure:

Se o wun lo pa man yen ni! Yes they are insensitive, but they do not owe anybody sensitivities! They've had a plan for birthday bash and they felt the need to celebrate regardless, it's nobody's business!
They may be rebuked but you can not take away their freedom to decide for their lives neither should anyone take church away from them!

It is a known fact that Herbert Wigwe facilitated and significantly approved loans and donations which were used to build the City of David edifice.

So are you telling me that if an uncle or godfather who has been pivotal in your life suddenly dies with his wife and first son in an accident you will throw a party and start dancing Azonto simply because you have been planning the party since?

We Saw This Coming... May God Be With Both Parties.

dalitigator:
Christianity and her Pastors are very funny.

God calls a Pastor in a ministry and the Pastor is attached to a church. Pastor faces disciplinary actions and then resigns God's calling. How are we certain God called these Pastors before?

Oga reg from a particular church doesn't mean he resign from God's calling.

Did he tell you he stop preaching the gospel?

This clearly shows who is in control of his family..
When you allow woman to do the thinking.
Women are naturally selfish in nature.
They careless and don't give a damn..
She's pushing him around and when the going get tough, she go just port.

Bamss1:

Am not trying to judgement o, and mind you flavor is one of my favourite musician especially from the igbo origin, him and phyno.

But should flavours kind of music give a pastor happiness in whatever situation?

Pastors are humans! We tend to elevate these men beyond logic!

LastProphet:
In the pastor's mind the Wigwes didn't have enough anointing, or they were not just having enough grace like him and his beautiful 60yr old wife, otherwise they shouldn't have perished like that. That's why they had no empathy to feel for the Wigwes. The moment you meet anyone that thinks they have a special sort of grace on their head, remind the dullard that they will never have half the grace of Myles Munroe and yet he perished like the Wigwes. The worst foooolishness is self delusion

Ironically I witnessed Myles Munroe preach @ the City of David some months earlier before he died in the tragic plane crash.

SavageResponse:


Well the church leadership is not angry with him because he invited Flavour to his wife's birthday bash, the main reason they are angry with him is the timing and flamboyance of the birthday party considering the fact that a major financial pillar of the church died in an accident less than a month before the party.

That party was very insensitive and disrespectful considering that almost the entire family of a very important parishioner was wiped out in one fell swoop!

I can't say why the woman did that, perhaps maybe they have some unsettled grudges with the deceased that is not obvious to the Media , maybe the deceased offend them, We never can say. But even if that's the case , they could have at least show some sensitivity for the Sake of their Reputation

dalitigator:
Christianity and her Pastors are very funny.

God calls a Pastor in a ministry and the Pastor is attached to a church. Pastor faces disciplinary actions and then resigns God's calling. How are we certain God called these Pastors before?

There is no biblical ordination for pastors and there is no Biblical anchorage to substantiate the man made position of GO .

It is also an aberration completely without scriptural basis to have a pastor leading elders.

So if what you are doing is not Biblical can you be doing it for God .❓❓

Boyjaco:
birthday arrangement dey don dey place and it cannot be cancel na wa oo

I suspect there is some conflict between the deceased and this Pastors Family low key that prompted the supposed lack of empathy.

udemzyudex:


Oga reg from a particular church doesn't mean he resign from God's calling.

Did he tell you he stop preaching the gospel?

The man has tried for them right from his days @ King’s Court Chapel on Olosa Crescent, Victoria Island.

He go launch his own church soon. Business must continue.

Jagaban2012:
Idowu Iluyomade reg ...

I know ID ...he is so proud of himself, he is a GO of himself in that particular church ....perhaps he is coming back to send RCCG away from that big Edifice.....he is a lawyer he can decide to institute a law suite against RCCG. but whatever contrary efforts he is making against the RCCG God will turn it to foolishness....
RCCG brought him to.lightlime. And he should also be read to serve in a remote area.....

Gospel work is not only about Ikoyi, VI ...and other fine places ....there are many pastor colleagues in the bush area and villages....even Jesus went to Bethsida to preach ....this is a remote area where low income people stay in Israel ....

ID must be able to be flexible and adaptable to all terrain if truly he is serving God ...and not for personal gain

What does how and where Jesus preached have anything to do with what your pastors do now?...pls chastise him if you want but don't bring Jesus in, none of your pastor's actions imitate him or the early apostles

Newcastle2023:
The way some of us that should know better think and talk in the public space is very disturbing.

I very prominent man in your country that happens to be a Deacon in one's church tragically lost his life alongside his wife and first son, and you think the right thing to do in such an unfortunate circumstance is not to at least postpone the birthday party until after the burial of the deceased?

Let's endeavour to put ourselves in the shoes of others please.

Many people walking the streets of Nigeria do not have empathy.

W0t0w0toman:


Agbado and corruption dey like bread and tea

I know one idiot will bring tribalism into this discussion!

In Everything a man will be doing in this life, He must be very sensitive enough never grant all the wishes of the woman or women in his life. One thing we all fail to realize is that Pastor Iluyomade's wife pushed him into all these problems. The problem would have been evaded if the birthday was done on a low-key. Another I'm sure catalysed the whole saga is Flavor ( hip-hop artist ) that was the guest minister instead of the likes of Dunsin Oyekan 😆😆😆.

Blitzking:

Jesus is the source but he uses men...if u take the man the sheep scatters...but that is why men of God are advised to marry rightly..cos ur wife's can end up being a torn in the flesh and it ur Ministry short.

Separate topic. I see this comment increasingly being pushed around that GOD uses men and people tend to mean in all things he uses men. For me that is a dangerous comment, limiting GOD. When Paul and Silas were freed, did he use man to free them? When the ram was provided for Abraham and Isaac, did he use man? GOD may use man at times to accomplish works and people but he can take a direct hand via angels or other beings.

Segzy19:
See as this man just allowed his wife to land him into shame. All because he couldn't control his wife. I am very sure that it was his wife that personally wanted Flavour to sing at the party...

Men, this is a big lesson for you. No be everything you go dey allow your wife. These women ain't always objective and reasonable.... Take major decisions always as a man... Only allow your wife's decisions to stand if they are reasonable and objective.... Otherwise you will end in shame.

Now, it's the man that is at the centre of the shame, not the wife

No doubt @ bolded.

Good advice

This is similar to men who listen to women that tells them " let's marry like that, we will manage " , the moment she got the wedding she wanted, and he can't provide. People call for the head of the man and ask him why he married when he knows he can't provide. The man bears the shame

Livadesh:
In Everything a man will be doing in this life, He must be very sensitive enough never grant all the wishes of the woman or women in his life. One thing we all fail to realize is that Pastor Iluyomade's wife pushed him into all these problems. The problem would have been evaded if the birthday was done on a low-key. Another I'm sure catalysed the whole saga is Flavor ( hip-hop artist ) that was the guest minister instead of the likes of Dunsin Oyekan 😆😆😆.

Interestingly RCCG ed a directive this year that all ministers invited for any RCCG church program should be of RCCG. Permission must now be sought if the guest minister is not from the church. In my opinion, it is about time they did such.

Pastorpreneur

Druss:


Wigwe is not his parent and there is nothing wrong with the timing of the event. What it shows is that the families were not close friends. Also if the Wigwes were not rich, would you have an issue? As a pastor, I would postpone my celebrations if any member of my church dies. However if someone less famous had died in the past and no one batted an eyelid, it would be hypocritical of them to postpone it. It is GOD that gives the power to make wealth.

The issue I have with the pastor is the unnecessary behaviours he and his wife has shown in that role. They have forgotten their position and duties and allowed the fame to go to their head. To invite Flavour as a senior member of redeemed was a bad example of proper behaviour especially when you contrast the wife with most RCCG pastors' wives. Then again I have my own thoughts on spouses of church people being given a role based on their copulation.

The bolded sound credible, perhaps there might even be some grudge between both Families

blowjohn:
Iluyomade was until last week, the pastor of the hugely 'successful branch'


I don't understand that part, 'successful branch'


How do u describe a church as being successful?

Is it in soul winning or number of attendees or what?

I think it's s wrong way to describe a church.
Makes it look like a business.

Bro 90% of Nigerian churches are business centres. I'm telling you this from experience. I don't need to reveal my identity.

AdesegunSanni89:
This man should go further and convert that VI church into his own ministry. Redeem likes to use and dump. Oga no gree for them o

I feel your pain but try and get to the root of the matter before ing judgement on the church. This man resigned willingly and not under compulsion. He may have his personal reasons for doing that which could be connected or unconnected with happenings in the city of David. Don't forget that the man fell ill seven years and his sickness was hypertension related.

Let's all calm down and hear from this man before condemning RCCG or anyone.

blowjohn:
Iluyomade was until last week, the pastor of the hugely 'successful branch'


I don't understand that part, 'successful branch'


How do u describe a church as being successful?

Is it in soul winning or number of attendees or what?

I think it's s wrong way to describe a church.
Makes it look like a business.

It's a business venture now, it brings huge revenue to Adeboye