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LegalWolf:
Lol
Of course, the same way the Bible is imperfect so also every human being (including the translators of the Quran). Go check preface to some of their editions, some acknowledge their imperfection. So that’s fine.

You are saying in other words that that you believe the Qur'an is ALSO imperfect!?

Your Imam must not hear that from you o!
LOL!!

LegalWolf:

Lol, you were not quoting directly any of the translators potential thief. Pray tell me EXACTLY which of them you quoted that translated the verse the way you did?

Muslims with changing NARRATIVES so that they can fight the resulting STRAWMAN! LOL!

I said:
But do you think these translators are Liars?
(Because you accused me of stating exactly their conclusion)

BUT,
You had to turn their conclusion into quote just so that you can turn around and ask me provide evidence of the non-existent quotes.

Alhaji LegalWolf, it's a new year o!
LOL!!

LegalWolf:

Lol, you and I know Yehoshua was not excreted, or was he? Neither was he vomited, am I wrong?

your God came out of the vagina of Mary Again, to repeat, Yehoshua came out of Mary’s vagina. If he could come out from there, what stops the spirit through which he was formed going through there?

Ehn potential thief

Of course, ALL humans come of from their mother's Farjah BUT not all adult humans put their mouth on the Farjah of women. If it happens, it is called MouthAction!

Let me ask you a question:
Is it beneath Allah to change his shape for humans to see?

MightySparrow:


Muslims can lie? If you qoute the Hadith they will say they don't bring that. If qoute Tasfir they will say they believe only in the Quran. If you qoute the Quran, they will say that version belongs to the other sect. The Quran Arabic is different from the modern standard one just like KJV is earliest of the common Bible translations.
If you qoute other references they have a smart way of dodging. Farjaha فرجها is the original word used. Jubril rocked the poonani of Islamic Maryam.

That's your Bible!
That's your Biblical analysis from Luke 1:35 you are using on the Qur'an.

The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.

1. What does "Come on you" mean?
2. episkiasei means to Overshadow or envelope aka tower above and cast a shadow over or appear more prominent or important than.
This is like having sex.
3. The end result now became son of God!

TenQ:

You are saying in other words that that you believe the Qur'an is ALSO imperfect!?

Your Imam must not hear that from you o!
LOL!!

LOL! At least we agree on two things:

a. The Bible is imperfect. Just to take it a nudge further from what we both agree on, the Bible is manifestly, inherently and grossly imperfect.

b. Point to any statement of mine that logically s this 'You are saying in other words that that you believe the Qur'an is ALSO imperfect!? . Pray, I beseech thee, just one!

LOL!

Muslims with changing NARRATIVES so that they can fight the resulting STRAWMAN! LOL!

BUT,
You had to turn their conclusion into quote just so that you can turn around and ask me provide evidence of the non-existent quotes.

Alhaji LegalWolf, it's a new year o!
LOL!!

?

Of course, ALL humans come of from their mother's Farjah BUT not all adult humans put their mouth on the Farjah of women. If it happens, it is called MouthAction!

Let me ask you a question:
Is it beneath Allah to change his shape for humans to see?

Your question is irrelevant. That has no basis to this conversation. [Even if it does, there is no evidence of Allah changing his form or shape. But what I do know is that yhwh changed his shape in order to wrestle with a human. Guess what: his own creation probably beat him blue black. Boxed his mouth with tough punches that he had to flee. yhwh ran like a thief at night. Walahi, I am not making this up. See Genesis 32: 24 - 26]

The point has been made, which you agree that:

1. Yehoshua that you worship came from a woman's vagina. . Again, let me put it in capital letter and highlight so you can see it very clearly, YEHOSHUA WHO YOU WORSHIP PROCEEDED FROM MARY'S VAGINA . So, what is wrong if the spirit through which he was formed through the same route that YOU ACKNOWLEDGE that he came from?

2. That the text of our Quran never made any reference to Jubril (whether in human or angelic form) blowing any spirit to Mary. Assuming he does, on a personal note, I see no problem (but that is irrelevant because we are discussing the text not what I did not see)

So that ends the conversation on your question and we should not be caught straying like the stray advocatejare. That's beneath me. And thank you again for you post re-affirming that the message of the gospel is nothing but human sacrifice.

Cheers and have a beautiful day hahahaha Lol

drlateef:
■Who wrote your bible story? And who revealed Quran? Who is the creator between the writer of bible and Quran?

1. Since you and where not there to confirm the identities of the author(s), what should matter more here is that each s speak of a different deity, different from the one recorded in the other book.

LegalWolf:


LOL! At least we agree on two things:

a. The Bible is imperfect. Just to take it a nudge further from what we both agree on, the Bible is manifestly, inherently and grossly imperfect.

b. Point to any statement of mine that logically s this 'You are saying in other words that that you believe the Qur'an is ALSO imperfect!? . Pray, I beseech thee, just one!

LOL!




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Your question is irrelevant. That has no basis to this conversation. [Even if it does, there is no evidence of Allah changing his form or shape. But what I do know is that yhwh changed his shape in order to wrestle with a human. Guess what: his own creation probably beat him blue black. Boxed his mouth with tough punches that he had to flee. yhwh ran like a thief at night. Walahi, I am not making this up. See Genesis 32: 24 - 26]

The point has been made, which you agree that:

1. Yehoshua that you worship came from a woman's vagina. . Again, let me put it in capital letter and highlight so you can see it very clearly, YEHOSHUA WHO YOU WORSHIP PROCEEDED FROM MARY'S VAGINA . So, what is wrong if the spirit through which he was formed through the same route that YOU ACKNOWLEDGE that he came from?

2. That the text of our Quran never made any reference to Jubril (whether in human or angelic form) blowing any spirit to Mary. Assuming he does, on a personal note, I see no problem (but that is irrelevant because we are discussing the text not what I did not see)

So that ends the conversation on your question and we should not be caught straying like the stray advocatejare. That's beneath me. And thank you again for you post re-affirming that the message of the gospel is nothing but human sacrifice.

Cheers and have a beautiful day hahahaha Lol

I never discussed with you about the perfection or imperfection of the bible. It was you that brought it up. Secondly, you said:

LegalWolf:
Lol
Of course, the same way the Bible is imperfect so also every human being (including the translators of the Quran). Go check preface to some of their editions, some acknowledge their imperfection. So that’s fine.

What does the highlighted mean other than what I re-echoed?

TenQ:

You are saying in other words that that you believe the Qur'an is ALSO imperfect!?

Unfortunately for you, your Thief, Lying and Schizophrenic Criminal you adopted as a prophet totally disagree with you.

Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 38, Number 4434 Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar:
A group of Jews came and invited the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) to Quff. So he visited them in their school.
They said: AbulQasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them. They placed a cushion for the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: I believed in thee and in Him Who revealed thee.


I can understand that Allah is so afraid of the toilet that he abandons you to the hands of satan anytime you are pressed.

You seem to forget that anything that God touches becomes Holy, hence there is no reason to say anything more on this.

HOWEVER,
We see Allah (according to you not Jubril) putting his mouth on Mary's Farjah for MouthAction in order to impregnate her.

Or maybe anything Allah put his mouth inside become holy: then he would have no sin.


But the issue is

TenQ:

I am glad you said Allah does whatever he wills and this brings my third question.


We can see that Jubril could appear in another form by the permission of Allah and still remain Jubril.

Can Allah appear in another form and still remain Allah?

1. Allah has the power to do all things!

2. Who told you Allah was in a particular form before for Him to appear in another form?

TenQ:

I never discussed with you about the perfection or imperfection of the bible. It was you that brought it up.

But FxMasterz brought it up and you did try to deflect the question didn't you? Your cry is music to my hears! LOL

Secondly, you said:



What does the highlighted mean other than what I re-echoed?

Here is what I said:

the same way the Bible is imperfect so also every human being (including the translators of the Quran).

LOL! It is insanity at this point. So Quran = Human being (including its translators from Arabic to other languages)? Ehn Potential Thief?

Unfortunately for you, your Thief, Lying and Schizophrenic Criminal you adopted as a prophet totally disagree with you.

Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 38, Number 4434 Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar:
A group of Jews came and invited the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) to Quff. So he visited them in their school.
They said: AbulQasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them. They placed a cushion for the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: I believed in thee and in Him Who revealed thee.

What exactly are you trying to say here? Where are you coming from, where are you goint to?

I can understand that Allah is so afraid of the toilet that he abandons you to the hands of satan anytime you are pressed.

You seem to forget that anything that God touches becomes Holy, hence there is no reason to say anything more on this.

HOWEVER,
We see Allah (according to you not Jubril) putting his mouth on Mary's Farjah for MouthAction in order to impregnate her.

Or maybe anything Allah put his mouth inside become holy: then he would have no sin.


But the issue is

Again, your sanity has taken the front drive....What is the issue? Did your Yehoshua come out from the vagina of a woman?

Until you learn to converse in a civil manner, I am going to be your nemesis by painting the PICTURE until it burns in your brain!

If you want to know, Jesus was born not by CS but by normal birth though Mary's Farjah!

LegalWolf:


But FxMasterz brought it up and you did try to deflect the question didn't you? Your cry is music to my hears! LOL

Here is what I said:

the same way the Bible is imperfect so also every human being (including the translators of the Quran).

LOL! It is insanity at this point. So Quran = Human being (including its translators from Arabic to other languages)? Ehn Potential Thief?



What exactly are you trying to say here? Where are you coming from, where are you goint to?



Again, your sanity has taken the front drive....What is the issue? Did your Yehoshua come out from the vagina of a woman?

Let me even ask you a scientific and common sense question ?

1. What makes the Vagina IMPURE?
2. When Allah moulded Adam from Mud according to the Qur'an , did he touch the penis and vagina of the creatures?
3. Does that make Allah impure?


Did you come out from the VJ of a woman?
And this made you impure!?

If Jesus was the Word from Allah and a spirit from him according to the Qur'an, did He become UNHOLY after he was Born?

However, it is unfathomable that a so called Allah is (according to you) putting his mouth on the Farjah of a woman in performing MouthAction to impregnate her!

Tell me, who had orgasm first ?
Mary or Allah?
Like I said:
Until you learn to be civil, you deserve no iota of mercy!

I discuss with other Muslims here on NL and it doesn't degenerate to mudslinging!

TenQ:
Until you learn to converse in a civil manner, I am going to be your nemesis by painting the PICTURE until it burns in your brain!

LOL! a potential thief too is talking?

If you want to know, Jesus was born not by CS but by normal birth though Mary's Farjah!



Let me even ask you a scientific and common sense question ?

1. What makes the Vagina IMPURE?
2. When Allah moulded Adam from Mud according to the Qur'an , did he touch the penis and vagina of the creatures?
3. Does that make Allah impure?

Irrelevant

Did you come out from the VJ of a woman?
And this made you impure!?

If Jesus was the Word from Allah and a spirit from him according to the Qur'an, did He become UNHOLY after he was Born?

However, it is unfathomable that a so called Allah is (according to you) putting his mouth on the Farjah of a woman in performing MouthAction to impregnate her!

Still irrelevant....

Tell me, who had orgasm first ?
Mary or Allah?
Like I said:
Until you learn to be civil, you deserve no iota of mercy!

I discuss with other Muslims here on NL and it doesn't degenerate to mudslinging!

Probably yhwh. Since he rests and wrestles like man... what stops him from copulating and having orgasm?

PS: All your emotional blackmail and attempt to stop me from calling you a potential is doomed to fail. I have engaged several christians on Nairaland and offline, none of them is a pathetic and senile liar like you. As long as you live, I will call you a future thief. And is it mudslinging calling you by your essence - a potential thief destined to rob?

LegalWolf:


LOL! a potential thief too is talking?



Irrelevant



Still irrelevant....



Probably yhwh. Since he rests and wrestles like man... what stops him from copulating and having orgasm?

PS: All your emotional blackmail and attempt to stop me from calling you a potential is doomed to fail. I have engaged several christians on Nairaland and offline, none of them is a pathetic and senile liar like you. As long as you live, I will call you a future thief. And is it mudslinging calling you by your essence - a potential thief destined to rob?

And nothing you've said is relevant!

We see Allah (according to you not Jubril) putting his mouth on Mary's Farjah for MouthAction in order to impregnate her.

Tell me, who had orgasm first ?
Mary or Allah?

TenQ:

And nothing you've said is relevant!

We see Allah (according to you not Jubril) putting his mouth on Mary's Farjah for MouthAction in order to impregnate her.

Tell me, who had orgasm first ?
Mary or Allah?

Certainly yhwh had Orgasm first

Does that answer your question

LegalWolf:


Certainly Allah had Orgasm first

Does that answer your question

We have nothing like that in our literatures but you do.

Didn't you concede that Allah (not Jubril)
putting his mouth on Mary's Farjah for MouthAction in order to impregnate her?

TenQ:

We have nothing like that in our literatures but you do.

Didn't you concede that yhwh (not Gabriel)
putting his mouth on Mary's Farjah for MouthAction in order to impregnate her?

Concede? 'putting his mouth on...' . Where was that said potential thief

Modified: Potential Thief TenQ for your attention

LegalWolf:


Concede? 'putting his mouth on...' . Where was that said potential thief . [size=8pt][/size]D
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Modified: Potential Thief TenQ for y
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If it wasn't Jubril that put his mouth in the Farjah of Mary to blow inside it, who did?
Allah said "we blew into..." I have assumed like other Muslims that Jubril carried out the order of Allah and it wasn't Allah that came down to do the blowing UNTIL you were proving yourself wise at asking a deceitful question.

Did Jubril do the blowing or was it Allah himself that did it?

You caused whatever problem that existed on this!

Just curious how do you get Jubril from Gabriel

TenQ:

If it wasn't Jubril that put his mouth in the Farjah of Mary to blow inside it, who did?
Allah said "we blew into..." I have assumed like other Muslims that Jubril carried out the order of Allah and it wasn't Allah that came down to do the blowing UNTIL you were proving yourself wise at asking a deceitful question.

Did Jubril do the blowing or was it Allah himself that did it?

You caused whatever problem that existed on this!

So what your “intelligent” brain tells u is blowing = putting mouth on? If I blow air into your eye,
I’m putting my mouth on your eye ehn, potential thief Lawrence Aninih, Oh TenQnih 😝

LegalWolf:


So what your “intelligent” brain tells u is blowing = putting mouth on? If I blow air into your eye,
I’m putting my mouth on your eye ehn, potential thief Lawrence Aninih, Oh TenQnih 😝

How can one blow INTO it without putting mouth on it. After all, it is not about blowing ON it

Simple logic!

TenQ:

How can one blow INTO it without putting mouth on it. After all, it is not about blowing ON it

Simple logic!

Lol! Your logic is dumb and that’s one reason why I call you a potential thief.

You cannot blow into something WITHOUT putting your mouth on it?

Really, Potential Thief TenQ?

LegalWolf:


Lol! Your logic is dumb and that’s one reason why I call you a potential thief.

You cannot blow into something WITHOUT putting your mouth on it?

Really, Potential Thief TenQ?

Describe how YOU would have blown INTO it without touching it.

LOL!

TenQ:

Describe how YOU would have blown INTO it without touching it.

LOL!

Lol, I should “ Describe how YOU would have blown INTO it without touching it.”?

Insanity!

LegalWolf:

Lol, I should “ Describe how YOU would have blown INTO it without touching it.”?

Insanity!

Okay LegalWolf,
Enough of fighting each other .

Agreed as per the issue of Religion and Faith, we are immiscible. However, this shouldn't be a fight to promote hatred and bitterness amongst eac other.

I TenQ, without any iota of doubt believe in the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ as the ONLY way to Salvation AND that Islam as a religion is set up to directly counter the way of Salvation. My purpose is to expose Islam for what it is to both Christians and Muslims this opening your eyes to guaranteeing your place in paradise.

On the other hand,

You LegalWolf, without any iota of doubt believe that Islam through the shahada is the only way to salvation AND that Christians have strayed away from the path of true faith. I may not be able to say exactly what your purpose is except probably to convert as many Christians as possible to Islam.

We can both be on opposite sides of the fence while debating INTELLECTUALLY, LOGICALLY and FACTUALLY on positions we both hold differently.


At the End of the day, let the TRUTH prevail.



This being said:
I pray for you to know why JESUS is an Enigma amongst all living being. WHY!?
Once you know why Jesus has all His attributes, Salvation becomes yours!

Shalom.

Wawu! 🙆‍♀️🙆‍♀️🙆‍♀️🙆‍♀️

Never in a million years would I assume remotely that TenQ would come to this point. Nah. This is interesting!

TenQ:

Okay LegalWolf,
Enough of fighting each other .

💯 Endorsed!

But just to clarify - it’s more fun for me than actually fighting you. Like what’s there to gain?

Agreed as per the issue of Religion and Faith, we are immiscible. However, this shouldn't be a fight to promote hatred and bitterness amongst eac other.

I TenQ, without any iota of doubt believe in the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ as the ONLY way to Salvation AND that Islam as a religion is set up to directly counter the way of Salvation. My purpose is to expose Islam for what it is to both Christians and Muslims this opening your eyes to guaranteeing your place in paradise.

On the other hand,

You LegalWolf, without any iota of doubt believe that Islam through the shahada is the only way to salvation AND that Christians have strayed away from the path of true faith. I may not be able to say exactly what your purpose is except probably to convert as many Christians as possible to Islam.

I’m still curious on why you had a change of mind. Nevertheless, and in addition to what you wrote, I think Salvation in Christianity is nothing other than human sacrifice - a proposition that annoys the very fibre of my being!

With respect to my purpose, I think I must have told you countless times. I’m not on Nairaland to convert Christians. In fact, you are the ONLY HUMAN I majorly discuss matters of faith with. My posts are mostly political, academic or cultural.

What I do seek to achieve on religious section is:
- to fault YOUR logic [and in extension Christianity) to those discerning AND
- make you have a feel of your harassment.

I have no issues with you writing any post on Islam based on your hallucinations BUT mentioning ANY Muslim to that post is where I draw the line.

That does not mean if you mention me, I won’t heed your call. I promise I will ALWAYS answer till I die, to the extent I have time.

We can both be on opposite sides of the fence while debating INTELLECTUALLY, LOGICALLY and FACTUALLY on positions we both hold differently.


At the End of the day, let the TRUTH prevail.

Of course! In addition, we can be debate on opposing sides without the need to tell DELIBERATE FALSEHOOD, INVENT STORIES, FABRICATE STATEMENTS AND ATTRIBUTE IT TO OTHERS, OR CLEARLY MISREPRESENTING UNAMBIGUOUS TEXTS OF SCRIPTURES!

This being said:
I pray for you to know why JESUS is an Enigma amongst all living being. WHY!?
Once you know why Jesus has all His attributes, Salvation becomes yours!

Shalom.

Hissplendor and I once ended on this note. It’s been fun for me actually and one part of me is sad that this chapter of mine is drawing to an end.

Anyways, I sincerely pray you know Islam - the beauty of the religion, magnificence of the Almighty and simplicity of the Prophet’s message. Your life would take a radical turn for good if you’re fortunate to encounter that in your life.

Salaam alaikum!

LegalWolf:
Wawu! 🙆‍♀️🙆‍♀️🙆‍♀️🙆‍♀️

Never in a million years would I assume remotely that TenQ would come to this point. Nah. This is interesting!

💯 Endorsed!

Very Good to hear that.

LegalWolf:

But just to clarify - it’s more fun for me than actually fighting you. Like what’s there to gain?

I’m still curious on why you had a change of mind. Nevertheless, and in addition to what you wrote, I think Salvation in Christianity is nothing other than human sacrifice - a proposition that annoys the very fibre of my being!

You want to know why?
By nature I am not the Caustic type: unfortunately, you brought out that which is alien to my nature. You can check throughout my posts to ANYONE on Nairaland if we trade words like with you.

If Jesus was just a human being, then, you'll be correct that it is human sacrifice: but Jesus is NOT human.

If Jesus is a Spirit from Allah and a Word from Allah, did he stop being both Word and Spirit when He became a Man?
I think it is you Muslims who cannot explain WHY Jesus was an ENIGMA. Once you understand the Why, Salvation is at your doorstep!

LegalWolf:

With respect to my purpose, I think I must have told you countless times. I’m not on Nairaland to convert Christians. In fact, you are the ONLY HUMAN I majorly discuss matters of faith with. My posts are mostly political, academic or cultural.

What I do seek to achieve on religious section is:
- to fault YOUR logic [and in extension Christianity) to those discerning AND
- make you have a feel of your harassment.

I have no issues with you writing any post on Islam based on your hallucinations BUT mentioning ANY Muslim to that post is where I draw the line.

Unfortunately, there is no way I will write a post on Islam without mentioning a few Muslims on NL: impossible.

Isn't it a free world? 90% of Muslims invited to the thread do not show up. It's okay as nothing is by force. At least they've read my objection or question about Islam.

I've also been called into threads when the OP feel that I should have something to say about the topic. Hence, don't be surprised in my next post where I will still invite my usual circle of invitees (including you)

LegalWolf:

That does not mean if you mention me, I won’t heed your call. I promise I will ALWAYS answer till I die, to the extent I have time.

Cool!

LegalWolf:

Of course! In addition, we can be debate on opposing sides without the need to tell DELIBERATE FALSEHOOD, INVENT STORIES, FABRICATE STATEMENTS AND ATTRIBUTE IT TO OTHERS, OR CLEARLY MISREPRESENTING UNAMBIGUOUS TEXTS OF SCRIPTURES!

This was entirely your fabrication and you started it all by your deliberate slanders and character assassination. You can check out our first engagement to confirm.

https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/7494226/according-islam-mohammed-failed-cardinal#119387228

LegalWolf:

Hissplendor and I once ended on this note. It’s been fun for me actually and one part of me is sad that this chapter of mine is drawing to an end.

Anyways, I sincerely pray you know Islam - the beauty of the religion, magnificence of the Almighty and simplicity of the Prophet’s message. Your life would take a radical turn for good if you’re fortunate to encounter that in your life.

Salaam alaikum!

You know I told you that I nearly recited the shahada some years ago. When a person sincerely questions the claims of Islam, the truth of the matter is that the CLAIMS break down. I noticed very early on that Islam accepts most things from Christianity BUT rejects ANYTHING that has to do with Salvation. This is especially disturbing!

Do you know why as Muslims you DODGE and AVOID answering many Questions?
I think you know that answering those questions EXPOSE the fundamental flaws in the CLAIMS of Islam as a Religion. Your AVOIDANCE is just strategies of PROTECTING Islam.

Do you agree with me that:
If ANY CLAIM cannot stand INQUISITION by Speaking the TRUTH, they must be based on Fallacies

LOL! I will be very brief in my response to your posts/allegations.

TenQ:

Very Good to hear that.


You want to know why?
By nature I am not the Caustic type: unfortunately, you brought out that which is alien to my nature. You can check throughout my posts to ANYONE on Nairaland if we trade words like with you.

If Jesus was just a human being, then, you'll be correct that it is human sacrifice: but Jesus is NOT human.

If Jesus is a Spirit from Allah and a Word from Allah, did he stop being both Word and Spirit when He became a Man?
I think it is you Muslims who cannot explain WHY Jesus was an ENIGMA. Once you understand the Why, Salvation is at your doorstep!

When I posed a question to you that Yehoshua proceeded from his mother's vagina, do you remeber your response?

It goes like this 'Of course, ALL humans come of from their mother's Farjah'
Impliedly, you have told us that Jesus was human. Now its surprising that your changing your view on the same subject. Anyways, the Gospel of Matthew and Luke provided us with two irreconcialable geneologies of Jesus.

Pray, I beseech thee, that it is Spirit that have geneologies?

Unfortunately, there is no way I will write a post on Islam without mentioning a few Muslims on NL: impossible.

Isn't it a free world? 90% of Muslims invited to the thread do not show up. It's okay as nothing is by force. At least they've read my objection or question about Islam.

I've also been called into threads when the OP feel that I should have something to say about the topic. Hence, don't be surprised in my next post where I will still invite my usual circle of invitees (including you)

That you see some men forcefully have their way with women is no reason for you to do same. What is wrong is wrong. I have read your posts a lot (before deciding it's worth my serious attention) and I could see where some people clearly expressed displeasure in you mentioning them (either through questions or what not). TenQ please don't play dumb. And you still go ahead to mention them again in YOUR next posts! It doesn't make sense.

Off the top of my head, I you wrote a thread on Jehovah Witnesses? Why don't you mention every christian you've engaged or even JW's you know?

Anyways, it is impossible for me to stop my usual jabs. In fact, I find it difficult seeing you in another perspective from what I know you. So don't be surprised in my response when I call you a potential thief or TenQnih or any of those names.

PS: I reckon I saw your other comment on SC Judgment. You are not just someone I can have such conversations with, my sincere apologies!

Cool!


This was entirely your fabrication and you started it all by your deliberate slanders and character assassination. You can check out our first engagement to confirm.

https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/7494226/according-islam-mohammed-failed-cardinal#119387228

I have gone through the posts and I can clearly see my rebuttal. So there is no reason for me to repeat myself. Mind you, I can go ahead and least at least 10 instances you invented stories or fabricated non-existent things (without evidence) in order to push your narrative. Is it here:

TenQ:


Case File Introduction:
1. Mohammed the Prophet of Allah was accused of Stealing a Piece of very beautiful RED sheet/garment/cloth that was ired by many of the followers of Mohammed. Everyone who last saw the cloth saw it with Mohammed and by his antecedent, knew that Mohammed stole the cloth. Mohammed denied stealing the cloth but he had not a single evidence to back himself with. Those who saw him amongst his followers kept insisting that their Prophet STOLE the garment.
2. The story was getting out of hand with everyone insisting that their prophet STOLE the Red garment that Mohammed had to call on his (fictitious) Allah to rescue him.

(underlined mine)

Just the first two paragraphs of a post ooo, and I can point to at least three fabrications. Outright lies that you know within you to be false. I have not run through other similar posts. And you tell me I slander you? Really?

You know I told you that I nearly recited the shahada some years ago. When a person sincerely questions the claims of Islam, the truth of the matter is that the CLAIMS break down. I noticed very early on that Islam accepts most things from Christianity BUT rejects ANYTHING that has to do with Salvation. This is especially disturbing!

Do you know why as Muslims you DODGE and AVOID answering many Questions?
I think you know that answering those questions EXPOSE the fundamental flaws in the CLAIMS of Islam as a Religion. Your AVOIDANCE is just strategies of PROTECTING Islam.

Do you agree with me that:
If ANY CLAIM cannot stand INQUISITION by Speaking the TRUTH, they must be based on Fallacies

Let me answer your question, I only answer questions that are relevant and logical. And I bet you do the same. I asked you that in place of salvation, would yhwh take cassava, garri, or agbado and you never responded till now. And I have asked you so many questions that are off-topic that you clearly deviated from (including your rapist-defending lawyer friend). That is the way I see your question.

What claim exactly cannot stand inquisition? I'm curious! And hope you know that because you answer questions does not necessarily mean your answers are valid in reason or logic. I can go ahead and list countless instances of where you provided answers that are just plain stupid (my apologies as I do not mean to be rude). We've seen people attempting ALL the questions in an exam and still failing, or haven't we?

PS: I did not intend to write this long, but pardon my overly long write-up

LegalWolf:
LOL! I will be very brief in my response to your posts/allegations.
When I posed a question to you that Yehoshua proceeded from his mother's vagina, do you remeber your response?

It goes like this 'Of course, ALL humans come of from their mother's Farjah'
Impliedly, you have told us that Jesus was human. Now its surprising that your changing your view on the same subject. Anyways, the Gospel of Matthew and Luke provided us with two irreconcialable geneologies of Jesus.

Pray, I beseech thee, that it is Spirit that have geneologies?

Have you never heard Christians say that Jesus was Fully God as He was Fully Man?
That was why I asked you the (still unanswered question):
When Jubril came as a perfectly formed Man to Mary, was he an Angel or a Man?

LegalWolf:

That you see some men forcefully have their way with women is no reason for you to do same. What is wrong is wrong. I have read your posts a lot (before deciding it's worth my serious attention) and I could see where some people clearly expressed displeasure in you mentioning them (either through questions or what not). TenQ please don't play dumb. And you still go ahead to mention them again in YOUR next posts! It doesn't make sense.

Off the top of my head, I you wrote a thread on Jehovah Witnesses? Why don't you mention every christian you've engaged or even JW's you know?

Anyways, it is impossible for me to stop my usual jabs. In fact, I find it difficult seeing you in another perspective from what I know you. So don't be surprised in my response when I call you a potential thief or TenQnih or any of those names.

PS: I reckon I saw your other comment on SC Judgment. You are not just someone I can have such conversations with, my sincere apologies!

JW are on the general Religious section of Nairaland: whether you invite them or not, they will respond in full force.

I wish you could give me example of one person who says I shouldn't mention them and I did. LOL!
Even then, Nairaland is a FACELESS FORUM and thus is a free space and ANYONE including me can be mention by ANYBODY: It is NOT compulsory to respond to ANY mention. Anyone who doesn't want to be mentioned should not be on Nairaland.

Do you ASK for people permission to mention them on Nairaland?

If you Muslims have not requested for your own separate section where people like me would first have to swear allegiance to Mohammed and Allah, there would be no iota of reason to specially mention a collection of Muslims. Until, that changes, I will continue to mention you o!

LegalWolf:

I have gone through the posts and I can clearly see my rebuttal. So there is no reason for me to repeat myself. Mind you, I can go ahead and least at least 10 instances you invented stories or fabricated non-existent things (without evidence) in order to push your narrative. Is it here:

(underlined mine)

Just the first two paragraphs of a post ooo, and I can point to at least three fabrications. Outright lies that you know within you to be false. I have not run through other similar posts. And you tell me I slander you? Really?

If your underlined is what you call fabrications, too bad!
BUT
Even you know too well that this is NOT a fabrication of any of your islamic literatures.

Let me find you one of your quotes

When I posed a question to you that Yehoshua proceeded from his mother's vagina, do you your response?

Can you show me a SINGLE christian literature that said the underlined?
Will you consider this a Fabrication?

LegalWolf:

Let me answer your question, I only answer questions that are relevant and logical. And I bet you do the same. I asked you that in place of salvation, would yhwh take cassava, garri, or agbado and you never responded till now. And I have asked you so many questions that are off-topic that you clearly deviated from (including your rapist-defending lawyer friend). That is the way I see your question.

What claim exactly cannot stand inquisition? I'm curious! And hope you know that because you answer questions does not necessarily mean your answers are valid in reason or logic. I can go ahead and list countless instances of where you provided answers that are just plain stupid (my apologies as I do not mean to be rude). We've seen people attempting ALL the questions in an exam and still failing, or haven't we?

PS: I did not intend to write this long, but pardon my overly long write-up

I think with the underlined, you have a very LAME excuse to escape ANSWERING Questions that expose the weakness of your belief?
You have no right to selectively determine what you consider as even in the court of law objections to a question being asked can only be allowed or overruled by the Arbitrator or Judge.

To a very large extent, I answer all your questions except if missed it or it got buried in multitudes of texts UNLIKE you.

If you want the Question of Agbado or Cassava be answered, the answer is CAPITAL NO!

Even if my answers to you seem stupid, at least I did not DODGE answering in order to ESCAPE facing the conclusion.

Too many Questions you won't answer like:
Is it True Dhulkhanein found the sun setting in the murky waters?
Is it true that a man's Semen come from his backbone and that the women's reproductive fluids come from her rib cage?
Is it true Allah says a Muslim can marry and divorce a female who has not yet menstruated?
Even though the answers are simple and direct, you would not respond in the next 100 posts. It has nothing to do with the 'stupidity'
of the question but escape from the embarrassment the true answer represent.


Cheers!

LOL!

TenQ:

Have you never heard Christians say that Jesus was Fully God as He was Fully Man?
That was why I asked you the (still unanswered question):
When Jubril came as a perfectly formed Man to Mary, was he an Angel or a Man?

Saying I did not answer that question is dishonest as I clearly adopted the answer adopted by someone else. Anyways, we agree that Jesus was human (whether in part or in full, right), Right? That lends to my argument that Salvation = Human Sacrifice

JW are on the general Religious section of Nairaland: whether you invite them or not, they will respond in full force.

I wish you could give me example of one person who says I shouldn't mention them and I did. LOL!
Even then, Nairaland is a FACELESS FORUM and thus is a free space and ANYONE including me can be mention by ANYBODY: It is NOT compulsory to respond to ANY mention. Anyone who doesn't want to be mentioned should not be on Nairaland.

Do you ASK for people permission to mention them on Nairaland?

If you Muslims have not requested for your own separate section where people like me would first have to swear allegiance to Mohammed and Allah, there would be no iota of reason to specially mention a collection of Muslims. Until, that changes, I will continue to mention you o!

Lol, I have more important things to do than to start digging for your old posts. As far as I’m concerned, mention any Muslim and I’ll call by your nature o!

If your underlined is what you call fabrications, too bad!
BUT
Even you know too well that this is NOT a fabrication of any of your islamic literatures.

If it is not fabrication, please quote a single strand of evidence to it? Just one!

Let me find you one of your quotes

Can you show me a SINGLE christian literature that said the underlined?
Will you consider this a Fabrication?

I think with the underlined, you have a very LAME excuse to escape

I think you’ve forgotten I proceeded with my assumption (which YOU AGREED TO). Let me remind you: I said that you and I know that Yehoshua wasn’t excreted neither was he vomited. He came out from the vagina. This was my point which YOU TENQ agreed to.

It would have been a question of debate if you said Yehoshua was vomited or excreted. But you did not as YOU agreed to the only possible manner in which he was birthed. So what’s the basis of your questions

ANSWERING Questions that expose the weakness of your belief?
You have no right to selectively determine what you consider as even in the court of law objections to a question being asked can only be allowed or overruled by the Arbitrator or Judge.

To a very large extent, I answer all your questions except if missed it or it got buried in multitudes of texts UNLIKE you.

If you want the Question of Agbado or Cassava be answered, the answer is CAPITAL NO!

Even if my answers to you seem stupid, at least I did not DODGE answering in order to ESCAPE facing the conclusion.

Too many Questions you won't answer like:
Is it True Dhulkhanein found the sun setting in the murky waters?
Is it true that a man's Semen come from his backbone and that the women's reproductive fluids come from her rib cage?
Is it true Allah says a Muslim can marry and divorce a female who has not yet menstruated?
Even though the answers are simple and direct, you would not respond in the next 100 posts. It has nothing to do with the 'stupidity'
of the question but escape from the embarrassment the true answer represent.


Cheers!

Now who is the judge in this context? And who told you that you cannot refuse to respond to irrelevant points or issues in law? Was it your rapist-defending lawyer friend? Or stray advocatejare?

Anyways, I have the unfettered right to cherry-pick which questions that are relevant and which that are not and I wouldn’t spend my time arguing. On some occasions, I’ll ask you to tell me why you think the question is relevant and you’ll be mute.

So if we are debating and you think a question is relevant and I think otherwise, please convince me of its relevancy. Otherwise fa fa fa…. Foul!

Lastly, would you sleep better at night if you think your questions ‘exposes the weakness of my belief’? Because, if that’ll make you sleep better or increase your balance, please let me know o

LegalWolf:
LOL!
Saying I did not answer that question is dishonest as I clearly adopted the answer adopted by someone else. Anyways, we agree that Jesus was human (whether in part or in full, right), Right? That lends to my argument that Salvation = Human Sacrifice

I literally forced you to adopt AntiChristians statement, you never said it was your own position.

You've still not answered this Question
If Jesus is the Word from Allah AND a Spirit from Allah
When Jesus became Human, did He stop being both the Word and Spirit from Allah?
Would it be Wrong Also that (according to you) Salvation = Sacrifice of the Word from Allah AND Sacrifice of the Spirit from Allah ?

LOL!

LegalWolf:

Lol, I have more important things to do than to start digging for your old posts. As far as I’m concerned, mention any Muslim and I’ll call by your nature o!

Even if you hold a slaughter knife on my neck, I will mention WHOEVER I will.

LegalWolf:

If it is not fabrication, please quote a single strand of evidence to it? Just one!

Like I said:

If your underlined is what you call fabrications, too bad!

If you think its a fabrication, bring your evidence, because youll have a lot of questions to answer as per WHY the companions assumed Mohammed took the red velvet cloth.

LegalWolf:

I think you’ve forgotten I proceeded with my assumption (which YOU AGREED TO). Let me remind you: I said that you and I know that Yehoshua wasn’t excreted neither was he vomited. He came out from the vagina. This was my point which YOU TENQ agreed to.

It would have been a question of debate if you said Yehoshua was vomited or excreted. But you did not as YOU agreed to the only possible manner in which he was birthed. So what’s the basis of your questions

So, it is okay with you to read between the lines with the birth of Jesus!?
I need a single reference from Christian literatures.

How do you know that Jesus wasn't excreted nor vomited? Did ANY christian literature discuss this?
Your evidence sir!
Were you just fabricating statements that Jesus came out of a vagina?

LegalWolf:

Now who is the judge in this context? And who told you that you cannot refuse to respond to irrelevant points or issues in law? Was it your rapist-defending lawyer friend? Or stray advocatejare?

Anyways, I have the unfettered right to cherry-pick which questions that are relevant and which that are not and I wouldn’t spend my time arguing. On some occasions, I’ll ask you to tell me why you think the question is relevant and you’ll be mute.

So if we are debating and you think a question is relevant and I think otherwise, please convince me of its relevancy. Otherwise fa fa fa…. Foul!

Lastly, would you sleep better at night if you think your questions ‘exposes the weakness of my belief’? Because, if that’ll make you sleep better or increase your balance, please let me know o

In a debate of this nature, if everyone decides to ignore RESPONSE to legitimate questions then it is as good as there was no debate in the first place.

This is why in the court of law the JUDGE moderates by compelling the Accused or Respondent to ANSWER a question thrown to them by the Advocates of the respective sides of the case.
It is NOT up to you to decide the Questions you should respond to just as it is not up to me to decide which question you post that I should respond to.

Even in the court of law, one of the reasons why objections is made to responding to some questions is because the answer may be damaging to the case. It is the Judge's duty to ascertain if the question is valuable to the case or not.

LIKE I SAID:
Too many Questions you won't answer like:
Is it True Dhulkhanein found the sun setting in the murky waters?
Is it true that a man's Semen come from his backbone and that the women's reproductive fluids come from her rib cage?
Is it true Allah says a Muslim can marry and divorce a female who has not yet menstruated?

Even though the answers are simple and direct, you would not respond in the next 100 posts. It has nothing to do with the 'stupidity'
of the question but escape from the embarrassment the true answer represent.

Like I once said, you’re too used to stray humans and it’s not my duty to teach you

TenQ:

I literally forced you to adopt Anti.Christians statement, you never said it was your own position.

You've still not answered this Question
If Jesus is the Word from Allah AND a Spirit from Allah
When Jesus became Human, did He stop being both the Word and Spirit from Allah?
Would it be Wrong Also that (according to you) Salvation = Sacrifice of the Word from Allah AND Sacrifice of the Spirit from Allah ?

LOL!

Just to clarify so it doesn’t go under the rug, you never forced me to adopt anyones position. You asked me a question and I told you someone else has answered it and I don’t see the need to repeat the response.

Now, this is where it gets interesting. Simple answer to your question is NO. But I don’t know the word or spirit of God has blood which is needed by God to forgive. Please point it to me

Even if you hold a slaughter knife on my neck, I will mention WHOEVER I will.

Even if a gun is pointed to my head, I’ll call you a potential thief!

Like I said:

If you think its a fabrication, bring your evidence, because youll have a lot of questions to answer as per WHY the companions assumed Mohammed took the red velvet cloth.

I should bring evidence to prove what you asserted . You made a statement without proof and you expect me to look for proof for you?

You are really “smart”!

So, it is okay with you to read between the lines with the birth of Jesus!?
I need a single reference from Christian literatures.

How do you know that Jesus wasn't excreted nor vomited? Did ANY christian literature discuss this?
Your evidence sir!
Were you just fabricating statements that Jesus came out of a vagina?

Despite the fact that I consider my debate with you as cruise and waste of time, I think I’ve thought you something valuable. That were a source never mentions something, you don’t go on hallucinating like mad men with your version of the story.

To answer your question:
1. We have evidence that Jesus was the son of Mary , a female specie of human race.
2. We have evidence that Mary was a human being and not a spirit;
3. We know that the only natural way things of substance (outside liquid) comes out from a female is through mouth, anus or vagina
4. Evidence abounds, and which you itted that humans reproduce by coming ouT of their mother’s vagina
5. Since Mary is a human (female), her birth of Jesus could only possibly be through the vagina.

That’s a combo of inductive and deductive logic. The stray advocatejare may expand further on it or FxMasterz may write an epistle to explain if he knows it.

In a debate of this nature, if everyone decides to ignore RESPONSE to legitimate questions then it is as good as there was no debate in the first place.

This is why in the court of law the JUDGE moderates by compelling the Accused or Respondent to ANSWER a question thrown to them by the Advocates of the respective sides of the case.
It is NOT up to you to decide the Questions you should respond to just as it is not up to me to decide which question you post that I should respond to.

Even in the court of law, one of the reasons why objections is made to responding to some questions is because the answer may be damaging to the case. It is the Judge's duty to ascertain if the question is valuable to the case or not.

(underlined mine, apparently)

Who told you judges compel accused/respondent to answer questions. 🙆‍♀️ Was it the stray advocatejare 😝😝😝😝 or your rapist defending lawyer-friend?

LIKE I SAID:
Too many Questions you won't answer like:
Is it True Dhulkhanein found the sun setting in the murky waters?
Is it true that a man's Semen come from his backbone and that the women's reproductive fluids come from her rib cage?
Is it true Allah says a Muslim can marry and divorce a female who has not yet menstruated?

Even though the answers are simple and direct, you would not respond in the next 100 posts. It has nothing to do with the 'stupidity'
of the question but escape from the embarrassment the true answer represent.

If you think your question embarrasses me, would that make you sleep better at night? Ehn! Lol

LegalWolf:
Like I once said, you’re too used to stray humans and it’s not my duty to teach you

Just to clarify so it doesn’t go under the rug, you never forced me to adopt anyones position. You asked me a question and I told you someone else has answered it and I don’t see the need to repeat the response.

Now, this is where it gets interesting. Simple answer to your question is NO. But I don’t know the word or spirit of God has blood which is needed by God to forgive. Please point it to me

Jubril is a spirit, HOWEVER
When Jubril came as a perfect man to Mary, was he with or without blood?

As usual, "they" don't know the answer!

LegalWolf:

Even if a gun is pointed to my head, I’ll call you a potential thief!

O, you scared me!
I am shivering in fear now! Okay, I've REPENTED, don't do that pleeeeaaase!

Do you want me to send some emissaries to beg you?

So, you acknowledge that I am doing enough damage you'll rather want to curtail? Just hear yourself giving a threat like a primary school boy!
LOL

LegalWolf:

I should bring evidence to prove what you asserted . You made a statement without proof and you expect me to look for proof for you?

You are really “smart”!

Proofs go both ways my dear; you didn't learn that in law school!?

LegalWolf:

Despite the fact that I consider my debate with you as cruise and waste of time, I think I’ve thought you something valuable. That were a source never mentions something, you don’t go on hallucinating like mad men with your version of the story.

To answer your question:
1. We have evidence that Jesus was the son of Mary , a female specie of human race.
2. We have evidence that Mary was a human being and not a spirit;
3. We know that the only natural way things of substance (outside liquid) comes out from a female is through mouth, anus or vagina
4. Evidence abounds, and which you itted that humans reproduce by coming ouT of their mother’s vagina
5. Since Mary is a human (female), her birth of Jesus could only possibly be through the vagina.

That’s a combo of inductive and deductive logic. The stray advocatejare may expand further on it or FxMasterz may write an epistle to explain if he knows it.

(underlined mine, apparently)

You think it if fair to you to infer and connect the dots in the Christians narrative of the birth of JESUS but I can't do the same!?

You see your life?

That was why I asked you to present ANY Christian literature that mentioned that Jesus was born through the vagina of Mary!

LegalWolf:

Who told you judges compel accused/respondent to answer questions. 🙆‍♀️ Was it the stray advocatejare 😝😝😝😝 or your rapist defending lawyer-friend?


If you think your question embarrasses me, would that make you sleep better at night? Ehn! Lol

I'm sure in the court of law you have heard the phrases
"Objection OVERRULED!"
Or
"Objection SUSTAINED!"

Of course, the questions embarrass you that you will feign there wasn't any questions in the first place.

If not

LIKE I SAID:
Too many Questions you won't answer like:
Is it True Dhulkhanein found the sun setting in the murky waters?
Is it true that a man's Semen come from his backbone and that the women's reproductive fluids come from her rib cage?
Is it true Allah says a Muslim can marry and divorce a female who has not yet menstruated?

Even though the answers are simple and direct, you would not respond in the next 100 posts. It has nothing to do with the 'stupidity' of the question but escape from the embarrassment the true answer represent.

Good morning

TenQ:

Jubril is a spirit, HOWEVER
When Jubril came as a perfect man to Mary, was he with or without blood?

As usual, "they" don't know the answer!



O, you scared me!
I am shivering in fear now! Okay, I've REPENTED, don't do that pleeeeaaase!

Do you want me to send some emissaries to beg you?

So, you acknowledge that I am doing enough damage you'll rather want to curtail? Just hear yourself giving a threat like a primary school boy!
LOL



Proofs go both ways my dear; you didn't learn that in law school!?


You think it if fair to you to infer and connect the dots in the Christians narrative of the birth of JESUS but I can't do the same!?

You see your life?

That was why I asked you to present ANY Christian literature that mentioned that Jesus was born through the vagina of Mary!


I'm sure in the court of law you have heard the phrases
"Objection OVERRULED!"
Or
"Objection SUSTAINED!"

Of course, the questions embarrass you that you will feign there wasn't any questions in the first place.

If not

LIKE I SAID:
Too many Questions you won't answer like:
Is it True Dhulkhanein found the sun setting in the murky waters?
Is it true that a man's Semen come from his backbone and that the women's reproductive fluids come from her rib cage?
Is it true Allah says a Muslim can marry and divorce a female who has not yet menstruated?

Even though the answers are simple and direct, you would not respond in the next 100 posts. It has nothing to do with the 'stupidity' of the question but escape from the embarrassment the true answer represent.

Good morning

Hehehehe potential thief writing nothing else than gibberish… Lol!

LegalWolf:



Hehehehe potential thief writing nothing else than gibberish… Lol!

Sorry!
Hate and Despair is just written all over you. Sorry

What can I do to help you now?

TenQ:

Sorry!
Hate and Despair is just written all over you. Sorry

What can I do to help you now?

Why would I “despair” or hate you? Ehn potential thief? What possible gain do you think I’ll get from hating you 😪