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Wilgrea7:



its the same thing.
when the bible is exploited the masses who don't study it get wrong info nd live their life based on it believing they are right... nd I'm not just talking about Christianity.. I'm talking about religion as a whole

You just don't get it.

byteHead:


Empathy and comion should be our moral guide. And these can be developed without religion.

Back off a little, what moral guide? , I want to survive and I don't need you to, why this suddenly need to accommodate anyone.

Wilgrea7:


firstly... I'm not an atheist.. I'm a Christian with a question

secondly i never justified atheists. most atheists i know actually spend most of their time attacking religion instead of helping humanity. I'm not justifying atheism

on the case of Christians helping the poor... not all Christians actually help people in need.. although a number of them actually do. even muslims.. some people find it hard to help someone from another religion . i never said all Christians or Muslims are stingy.. I'm just talking about what religion has done in the lives of people

I agree with you that every religion has its negative side. In Christianity Jesus preached about love for one another, he preached forgiveness, he preached about giving and about helping someone in need. He used the good Samaritan story to illustrate it. He preached about turning the other cheek rather than revenge. He preached about paying back our dept. He said we should pray for our enemies and bless them that persecute us etc. There is nothing wrong about these teachings rather the people who have failed to keep to these teachings are the problem.
If in a family one person is an armed robber we cant brand the whole family armed robbers. We cant lay blame on Christianity because of some people who have failed to follow its teachings.

Eddlad:


If you acknowledge the fact that they have proof then why can't you understand their stance.

I follow scriptures and I will it that we pale in comparison to people of those times, their love, faith and attitude in God is exceedingly lacking.

But you can't pitch the problems of the world at Islam's doorstep, Mohammed lead led a peaceful,kind,loving and blameless life and asked all to do same, the kind of lives we lead are really independent of this, but can be guided by this. People just finding ways to exploit the Koran to achieve their aims, with or without the Koran this won't change. You probably do too but not within this confines, so why can't you see its in the heart of man to continual do bad.

Want something to blame? Blame yourself.

All u have displayed = Religion

bennyann:
What is religion(which of the religions) turning us(which people) into(into what if I may ask)?

Well as a Christian, I haven't been turned into anything but to influence my world with love. My main mission is to love the Lord my God with all my heart and all my soul and also to love my neighbor as myself.

to love Yaweh is funny, I can bet 100% of people who claim they love Yaweh aren't sincere. it's all mouth and forced psychology.
on what basis should I love him, Yaweh himself does not beleieve in Love but worship and fear.

and this is achieved thru compulsion so he gave incentives, worship and fear me guaranty heaven otherwise hell!

If yaweh descends into our midst today, tell me who won't run for his dear life?

Rem the first 4 commandments were about worship and fear.
1. worship only me
2. have no image but worship only me
3. call not my name in vain, fear my name
4. dedicate a day for me to worship me.

so brother whr is the love? love is unconditional and not forced, it comes not through incentives and threats


winner01 KingEbukasBlog Goddys 4everGod Anas09, pls take note when preaching to your poor in spirit head, u don't need to love Yaweh to make heaven, just worship, obey and fear him

realmindz:

to love Yaweh is funny, I can bet 100% of people who claim they love Yaweh aren't sincere. it's all mouth and forced psychology.
on what basis should I love him, Yaweh himself does not beleieve in Love but worship and fear.

and this is achieved thru compulsion so he gave incentives, worship and fear me guaranty heaven otherwise hell!

If yaweh descends into our midst today, tell me who won't run for his dear life?

Rem the first 4 commandments were about worship and fear.
1. worship only me
2. have no image but worship only me
3. call not my name in vain, fear my name
4. dedicate a day for me to worship me.

so brother whr is the love? love is unconditional and not forced, it comes not through incentives and threats


winner01 KingEbukasBlog Goddys 4everGod Anas09, pls take note when preaching to your poor in spirit head, u don't need to love Yaweh to make heaven, just worship, obey and fear him

Grow up son.

realmindz:


All u have displayed = Religion

I doubt that I can vouch for Mohammed.

Anas09:
Grow up son.

hello boo, kindly let me know where I was wrong above

Anas09:
Grow up son.

hello boo, kindly let me know where I was wrong above

Eddlad:


I doubt that I can vouch for Mohammed.

ur opinion about mohammed does not count as long as muslims believe absolutely in him....


Same way u believe absolutely in the bible and jesus, it does not count to some people as well.

All is religion

realmindz:

hello boo, kindly let me know where I was wrong above

Me your boo, hahahahahahahahaha.
*falls from chair*

Anas09:
Me your boo, hahahahahahahahaha. *falls from chair*

[quote author=Ranchhoddas post=50168671][/quote]
Where have you been? I was going to shout out looking for you. Are fine?

Anas09:

Me your boo, hahahahahahahahaha.
*falls from chair*

why can't I be ur boo? is it bcus I don't believe in the bible?
You may not knw my moral standard, values, achievements, vision or perhaps my level of discipline, focus, integrity and background....

All u see is a demon possessed monster with two horns, red eyes and vampire teeth, I may just be the humble happy innocent sweet looking guy u iring in the real world..

And yes u are my boo

Anas09:

Where have you been? I was going to shout out looking for you. Are fine?

I am good. I've been here and there. I can see you are tormenting the ''enemies of Christ'' in your usual manner.

realmindz:

why can't I be ur boo? is it bcus I don't believe in the bible?
You may not knw my moral standard, values, achievements, vision or perhaps my level of discipline, focus, integrity and background....

All u see is a demon possessed monster with two horns, red eyes and vampire teeth, I may just be the humble happy innocent sweet looking guy u iring in the real world..

And yes u are my boo

Lol. Morality is nothing bro. You aren't spirit-filled. It's Christ or nothing.

Ranchhoddas:
Lol. Morality is nothing bro. You aren't spirit-filled. It's Christ or nothing.

Lol, Christ or I burn forever.... and Anas09 will be like, shebi I told u, that's if she can withstand the sight of the agony of my torture in hell

realmindz:

Lol, Christ or I burn forever.... and Anas09 will be like, shebi I told u, that's if she can withstand the sight of the agony of my torture in hell

Seriously speaking, i dont want to imagine it. Am not laughing right now.

Ranchhoddas:
I am good. I've been here and there. I can see you are tormenting the ''enemies of Christ'' in your usual manner.

A part of me tells me, am wrong. No one can fight God's battles. But am still here.

realmindz:

why can't I be ur boo? is it bcus I don't believe in the bible?
You may not knw my moral standard, values, achievements, vision or perhaps my level of discipline, focus, integrity and background....

All u see is a demon possessed monster with two horns, red eyes and vampire teeth, I may just be the humble happy innocent sweet looking guy u iring in the real world..

And yes u are my boo

The guy you just painted here would have been an excellent boo if only he added Jesus into the list.

Real Men loves Jesus.

Anywheres, we can boos, but not too close oo.

[quote author=Ranchhoddas post=50168671][/quote]
What with the face?

Anas09:

Seriously speaking, i dont want to imagine it. Am not laughing right now.

and I will be like, I never knew...but pls a drop of water

realmindz:

and I will be like, I never knew...but pls a drop of water

Not a drop will cross over.

Anas09:

Seriously speaking, i dont want to imagine it. Am not laughing right now.

LOL... 419 is just making me laff out loud

Wilgrea7:
Religion has really changed the world... it has changed many of us..

I've come to understand something..
a Christian can give u proof he is right
a muslim can give u proof he is right
a jew can give u proof he is right

"RIGHT" about WHAT?

You don't SAY- that is how to sow confusion.

then who is really right?
which religion is really true

The question is: WHAT DO YOU WANT OUT OF YOUR RELIGION?

How much TRUTH do you WANT?

How SOON do you want to receive It?

for the Christians... what if u die and find out the Muslims were correct
for the Muslims.. what if u die and find out the Christians were correct..

You have to be an illiterate dunce to think that it is when you die that you find out whether your Religion is true or not.

. JOHN 14:21-27.

21. "He that hath my Commandments,
and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me
shall be loved of my Father,
and I will love him,
and will manifest myself to him."
22. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot,
"Lord, how is it that thou
wilt manifest thyself unto us,
and not unto the World?"
23. Jesus answered and said unto him,
"If a man love me,
he will keep my Words:
and my Father will love him,
and we will come unto him,
and make our abode with him.
24. "He that loveth me not
keepeth not my Sayings:
and The Word which ye hear is not mine,
but The Father's which sent me.
25. "These things have I spoken unto you,
being yet present with you.
26. "But the Comforter,
Which is The Holy Ghost,
Whom the Father will send in my Name,
He shall Teach you All Things,
and bring All Things to your remembrance,
whatsoever I have said unto you.
27. "Peace I leave with you,
my Peace I give unto you:
not as the World giveth,
give I unto you.
Let not your heart be troubled,
neither let it be afraid."

WHAT DOES IT MEAN, WHEN THE BIBLE SAYS THAT "GOD LOVES" PEOPLE?

It means that HE DOES STUFF for them!

The people in The Bible- WERE THEY DEAD, before they knew whether or not their Religion was TRUE or not?

If that is the sort of Religion that they practiced in The Bible, what sort of fool practices a different Religion entirely, and then says that the LACK OF RESULTS is caused by GOD CHANGING HIS DEFINITION OF "LOVE?"
much.
It never occurred to any of you, that if you SERVE GOD THE WAY THE ANCIENTS DID, that HE would RESPOND TO YOU, as He did for the Ancients?

what z the base of ur truth rather than a book which tells u it is true?

People who use "Z" for "IS," and "UR" for "YOUR" are not intelligent enough to understand worth anything.

has religion really blinded us

Speak for yourself!

YOU are the one BLIND!

people now claim holier than thou yet they can't help their fellow man in need

Given that the "MAN-IN-NEED" was never a helper of "Men-in-Need" in his own time means nothing?

. LUKE 6:32-49.

32. "For if ye love them which love you,
what thank have ye?
for sinners also love those that love them."

[color=#990000]27. "But I say unto you which hear,

'LOVE YOUR ENEMIES,
DO GOOD TO THEM
WHICH HATE YOU,
28. 'BLESS THEM THAT CURSE YOU,
AND PRAY FOR THEM
WHICH DESPITEFULLY USE YOU.
29. 'AND UNTO HIM
THAT SMITETH THEE
ON THE ONE CHEEK
OFFER ALSO THE OTHER;
AND HIM THAT
TAKETH AWAY THY CLOAK
FORBID NOT TO TAKE
THY COAT ALSO.
30. 'GIVE TO EVERY MAN
THAT ASKETH OF THEE;
AND OF HIM
THAT TAKETH AWAY THY GOODS
ASK THEM NOT AGAIN.
31. 'AND AS YE WOULD THAT
MEN SHOULD DO TO YOU,
DO YE ALSO
TO THEM LIKEWISE.'

32. "For if ye love them which love you,
what thank have ye?
for Sinners also love those that love them.
33. "And if ye do good to them
which do good to you,
what thank have ye?
For Sinners also do even the same.
34. "And if ye lend to them
of whom ye hope to receive,
what thank have ye?
For Sinners also lend to sinners,
to receive as much again.
35. "But love ye your enemies,
and do good,
and lend,
hoping for nothing again;
and your Reward shall be great,
and ye shall be
The Children of the Highest:
for He is kind unto the unthankful
and to the Evil.
36. "Be ye therefore merciful,
as your Father also is Merciful.
37. "Judge not,
and ye shall not be judged:
condemn not,
and ye shall not be Condemned:
forgive,
and ye shall be Forgiven:
38. "Give, and it shall be given unto you;
good measure,
pressed down,
and shaken together,
and running over,
shall men give into your bosom.
For with the same measure
that ye mete withal
it shall be measured to you again."
39. And he spake a Parable unto them,

"Can the blind lead the blind?
shall they not both fall into the ditch?
40. "The disciple is not above his master:
but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
41. "And why beholdest thou the mote
that is in thy brother's eye,
but perceivest not
the beam that is in
thine own eye?
42. "Either how canst thou
say to thy brother,

'BROTHER, LET ME PULL OUT
THE MOTE THAT IS
IN THINE EYE,'

when thou thyself beholdest not
the beam that is in thine own eye?
Thou Hypocrite, cast out first
the beam out of thine own eye,
and then shalt thou see clearly
to pull out the mote
that is in thy brother's eye.
43. "For a good tree
bringeth not forth corrupt fruit;
neither doth a corrupt tree
bring forth good fruit.
44. "For every tree
is known by his own fruit.
For of thorns men do not gather figs,
nor of a bramble bush
gather they grapes.
45. "A Good Man
out of the Good Treasure of his heart
bringeth forth that which is Good;
and an Evil Man
out of the Evil Treasure of his heart
bringeth forth that which is Evil:
for of the abundance of the heart
his mouth speaketh.
46. "And why call ye me, 'Lord, Lord,'
and do not the things which I say?
47. "Whosoever cometh to me,
and heareth my sayings, and doeth them,
I will shew you to whom he is like:
48. "He is like a man which built an house,
and digged deep,
and laid the foundation on a rock:
and when the flood arose,
the stream beat vehemently
upon that house,
and could not shake it:
for it was founded upon a rock.
49. "But he that heareth, and doeth not,
is like a man that without a foundation
built an house upon the earth;
against which the stream
did beat vehemently,
and immediately it fell;
and the ruin of that house was great."

WHEN THEY HAD MONEY, THEY SPENT IT ON THEMSELVES, AND ON THOSE WHO LOVED THEM.

They did what THE EARTH Told them to do their whole lives, and so never developed WILL.

When THE EARTH Told them to DO GOOD ONLY for those who did what they liked, and who did good to them, THEY OBEYED.

Therefore, when THE EARTH turned on them, and Told them to be NEEDY, they had NO WILL to RESIST, but had NO CHOICE but to BE AS THE EARTH DICTATED.

they will rush to pay tithes but will never donate a dine to that legless man on the road.

They donated to the Churches because the Churches told them what they wanted to hear.

They NEVER did it because they LOVED GOD with BIBLICAL LOVE.

There are TWELVE Ancient Greek Words that were translated "LOVE."

Eleven of them are in The New Testament.

The one that False Christians believe in is the only one now used in the New Testament.

. 1^st JOHN 5:1-5.

WHOSOEVER believeth that Jesus is the Christ
is born of God:
and every one that loveth
Him that begat
loveth him also
that is begotten of him.
2. By this we know
that we love The Children of God,

"WHEN WE LOVE GOD,
AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS."

3. For THIS is The Love of God,

"THAT WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS:"

and His Commandments are not grievous.
4. For whatsoever is born of God
overcometh the World:
and this is The Victory
that overcometh the World,

"EVEN OUR FAITH."

5. Who is he
that overcometh the World,
but he that believeth
that Jesus is The Son of God?

THIS IS THE ONLY DEFINITION OF "LOVE" THAT MATTERS.

Anyone who does not transmit THIS Teaching is a DECEIVER, BETRAYER, and MURDERER.

THE LEGLESS BEGGAR have the Right and the DUTY to REPENT of their Sins, and TURN TO YAHSHUA.

This has SELDOM happened: the handicapped usually PREFER to go to their grave crippled, than LOVE YAHSHUA as HE defined "LOVE."

Take NICK VUJICIC, for example.



He claims to be a Christian, yet he is not Healed.

WHY NOT?

Even because HE HAS NO INTEREST in Healing other people before HIMSELF.

If HE cannot be Healed, he is not going to pray for OTHERS to be Healed.

That is the way to get STUCK in that situation.

I lost interest in him, when he said that he was praying for a wife.



He wanted some Christian woman, with useless Faith like his own, to be stuck with looking after him her whole life.

As he is PHYSICALLY crippled, so are most Christians SPIRITUALLY crippled.

They WON'T be Healed until they desire OTHER Christians' Healing BEFORE their own.

religious wars still continue till tomorrow

What does this say about you?

You say that because their are EVIL Religions that FIGHT peaceful peoples, forcing them to DEFEND themselves, or DIE, ALL Religion is EVIL?

sometimes i wonder... is religion really helping us

WHY CAN'T YOU MAKE THE DIFFERENCE NEEDED?

Are you not a BIGGER Hypocrite than others?

You KNOW something is wrong: why don't you FIX it- or be a BETTER EXAMPLE?

i know one idiot will like to say Christianity isn't a religion.... pls slap anyone u catch saying that

How helpful are either of you?

but seriously .. where are we headed??

YOU are headed for DESTRUCTION OF YOUR SOUL: that is a CERTAINTY, at this point.

Wilgrea7:
truth is ... all we have today are religious dogmas. they all believe they are right and the worst part is they never want to hear the other side of the story... below is their mentality

I am right
I am right because i know i am right not because of evidence or proof.. i just know i am right
you are wrong as long as u don't believe in what i believe in
i cannot be wrong
i cannot listen to you because you are wrong but you must listen to me because i am right
no matter the evidence u provide i will always be right and u will always be wrong until u believe what i believe

the above is the life of a dogma

Isn't this your own dogma as well?

It's always shocking and very funny to me how skeptics make conclusions about knowing what is true or the nature of truth and classify other positions as subjective dogma yet isolate their own position of skepticism as somehow something that isn't also subjective as well and something that is miraculously objective and worthy of dignity and anyone's two cents . Very unfortunate and very foolish reasoning.

Some people think they're wise when they deny religion and God etc, but they're actually fools.

^^^

One of my missions on nairaland is also exposing the idiocy and foolishness of skepticism.

It's very easy to shake the faith of a skeptic, who trusts in foolishness, especially those who don't even understand what it truly means to be skeptics.

Politics is the world's problem not religion!
There is just one God and one organization of true worshipers, all others are false religions and that's why they're like tools in the hands of the invisible confusionist that's causing all the troubles on this planet. 1John 5:19 compare to 2Corinthians 4:4

There's just one reason why God created this planet:
“Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:28
That is God's will for mankind. You can see different religions with different books claiming such books are inspired yet they will bow to what is written in the Bible. They will be planning to have children and there is no race on this planet that equates themselves with animals. Religions claims they have holy books all you need to do is find out what their books teaches regarding the above quote and you will see clearly that they've been blinded because they will dance to the tune of the God of the Bible no matter how they contradict the Bible their day to day lives will be in line with that quote.

So which religion has the ultimate truth?
Any religion that's WORKING towards the ultimate goal as quoted in the Bible is the one and only true religion!

Joshthefirst:


Isn't this your own dogma as well?

It's always shocking and very funny to me how skeptics make conclusions about knowing what is true or the nature of truth and classify other positions as subjective dogma yet isolate their own position of skepticism as somehow something that isn't also subjective as well and something that is miraculously objective and worthy of dignity and anyone's two cents . Very unfortunate and very foolish reasoning.

Some people think they're wise when they deny religion and God etc, but they're actually fools.

I'd advise caution when quoting my posts from 6 years ago.. because my beliefs have changed a whole lot since then.

Moving on, do you care to share how I'm guilty of the same dogmatic mindset i pointed out there?... With an example please

Wilgrea7:


I'd advise caution when quoting my posts from 6 years ago.. because my beliefs have changed a whole lot since then.

Moving on, do you care to share how I'm guilty of the same dogmatic mindset i pointed out there?... With an example please

The fact that you also believe your critical position is right is dogmatic.

See example below

Wilgrea7:


so all others are false right? because the devil has deceived them but not you.. please give proof of the above assumption.

if you really understand that most of other religions are just trying to worship the supreme creator tho through various means u won't say they're false

What gives you the right to make this conclusion that other religions are not false? Is it not the same presumed right that other people have to say the opposite?

You wallow in dogma and accuse religionists in hypocrisy

Joshthefirst:

The fact that you also believe your critical position is right is dogmatic.
See example below
What gives you the right to make this conclusion that other religions are not false? Is it not the same presumed right that other people have to say the opposite?
You wallow in dogma and accuse religionists in hypocrisy

I love this post!

Hypocrisy start when you lay a claim but failed to present an indisputable proof to back up your claim yet accusing others of the same thing!

Joshthefirst:


The fact that you also believe your critical position is right is dogmatic.

What?? What are you even talking about?? I'm legit confused.

What gives you the right to make this conclusion that other religions are not false? Is it not the same presumed right that other people have to say the opposite?

You wallow in dogma and accuse religionists in hypocrisy

I literally told you to be careful quoting me from 6 years ago.. since my beliefs have changed a lot since then.. but you still went ahead to do so.