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An atheist not believing in God is actually a contradicting statement.
The fact one doesn't believe in a God makes one believe in God the more only that you deny the fact because of lack of evidence. So in conclusion, there are no atheist but people who have not realized the God in them or rather let God find expression through them

Why would you go take old statistics to prove your point. As of 2022 Nigeria is not top 10 and that atlas is not a top 10 list.

Angel55555:

Like I said earlier, Nigeria is one of the most religious countries in the world. The ss is from the world book atlas. Trust me the way a typical religious person in the US thinks is different from what we have here, people are more open minded there regardless of your religion, they believe humanity comes first before anything else it's the opposite in present day Nigeria.

I didn't say anything like religious people are mentally unstable. I'm agnostic I've nothing against religious people as long as you don't disturb others with your religion or make yourself a nuisance in the society. Lastly, not everyone who is not religious is mad at God.

HellVictorinho4:



Einstein was not the limit of intelligence ... neither was Hawking


The world has no purpose.

I agree,"your" handwriting and all "you" have written has no writer and it just came out from nowhere.
Alphelabets just did a kumbaya randomized danced and viola!
They made sense!!!

Some times one has to loose their ability to reason before becoming an atheist.

I don't agree with you at all on the treatment of atheists. Unless you don't live in Nigeria, nobody has the time and energy especially in the south to discriminate people because of their religious stand. The last I checked, Christians are not even done fighting themselves, they don't have time to add atheists to the mix.

In an argument between two Christians, if an atheists butts in, the Christians will ignore and continue their squabbles. However, for the predominantly Muslim North, I cannot say but what I do know is they don't really care unless you insult their Prophet.

So, I beg to differ that atheists are mistreated. They are treated exactly the same way Nigerians treat themselves. I don't know about foreign countries though, but I can say for this one.

In fact, atheists draw attention to themselves when they set up derogatory threads. That's where I know they receive the length of the tongue of a ionate religious person.

Wilgrea7:


I've certainly noticed the "angry atheist" type you're talking about. I think it's because they feel the years they spent in religion robbed them of some sort of life or the other. Especially for those brought up in fundamentalist religious homes.

Plus, some religious societies, especially places like Nigeria don't like atheists. And the anger they exhibit online is their way of retaliating against the hate they receive from society. Although if you ask me, that's preaching to the wrong crowd. Plus, insulting someone else's beliefs hardly accomplishes anything.

If i'm being honest, there was once a time i used to love engaging in religious debates. Not in the insultive way tho. I was just eager to share the knowledge I had gained on religious subjects.

I later stopped tho, because I realized that for most people, belief in a god is what keeps them sane, or what gets them through some hard times in life and helps them stay at peace. I wouldn't want to take that away from them, so I generally tend to avoid most religious debates in person these days.

Except of course if someone comes up to me and insists they know everything about life and the universe. Then i let them have it.

peggywebbs:
One thing I've learnt about atheists is that they have herd mentality. There are only very few atheists but you see the rest are either followers, angry people, and those who don't like extra activities.

However, the majority even from the comments are ex-christians. The common excuse is they are not convinced about the existence of God. So, many of them will simply tell you that's why they became atheist. What they won't tell you is the disappointment they have felt.

Many have had experiences where they thought or expected God to do something but they got nothing. In anger, they left the religion because they saw no point to it. While another group fall in the category of those forced to go to church as kids on Sunday. They'd rather be at home watching a movie or with their PS4. Growing up gave them the opportunity to stay back at home.

They got used to it and so Sundays became like every other day and they forgot about church. Since they don't bother well it's as good as there's no point of religion. Then the last group which constitute the majority is school. Well that's where most people don't go to church, I never did in school. But you see when someone says there's no God, the other person well thinks it's cool and they sort of become atheists by association. So they hang around and argue the whole idea why Christians are nuts. It's a fun conversation, they flow with it and then bam, they are now confirmed atheists.

So that's about it.

After all these Tom foolery you have mentioned from your dumb way of thinking.. I need you to give me just one proof. Just one, that a certain God exists. Just one

The universe is big enough to find a lot of reason to see any proof

OkoAmarashy:


This one wan buy spiritual encounter.
You never sabi what's up.

Go to any Surgical emergency in any Public Hospital and let's see if your atheism will survive that environment.

SMH
Im a physician and I work in emergency settings, and yes I've been atheist for years. Practicing medicine opens your eyes to the lies of religion. I have never seen a pastor/iman raise the dead or even heal any patient
So talk another lie, good brother

sundaygray:
Omo i observed the life, learned different religions sat down and thought about life in general and also, never had a spiritual encounter i have spent money, a lot of money for a spiritual encounter but no level baba.The lack of evidence just make me chill. Unless God appears and shows himself to me, no level

God deliberately hide Himself from the world, because of our disobedience to Him,we want to bend Him to our desire,
He says my ways are not your ways, my thoughts are not your thoughts,
(“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.”
— Isaiah 55:8 (KJV)
To find God, God is a spirit being
“God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”
— John 4:24 (KJV)
(1) you need to humble yourself, put aside all that you think you have and achieve
(2)Lock your door and knell down in your room, tell God that you are sorry of your sins, your disobedience and wrong assumption,
Tell Him to forgive you and wash clean from your sin, promise Him you will be obedient to Him from now on, that He should give you the grace to follow Him and to understand Him,
(3) Get Bible, and if you want to read, look for a quiet place, pray that Holy Spirit should come and teach you the word of God,
Then open the bible read it gently with your mind open, God will open up your eyes, God bless you.

Maynman:


And what has theism done in public hospitals?

The guy is a clown

Kaniff:
An atheist not believing in God is actually a contradicting statement.
The fact one doesn't believe in a God makes one believe in God the more only that you deny the fact because of lack of evidence. So in conclusion, there are no atheist but people who have not realized the God in them or rather let God find expression through them

A person not believing in bigfoot is actually a contradicting statement. The fact one doesn't believe in bigfoot makes one believe in bigfoot the more only that you deny the fact because of lack of evidence. So in conclusion, there are no people who don't believe in bigfoot but people who have not realized the bigfoot in the forest or rather let bigfoot find them on the mountain.

Karnice600:


That's why I asked someone here earlier on if he believes in science. They don't follow science closely. Recent discoveries, especially in astrophysics, have altered many of these crazy assertions that so called atheist are using as the best cards in their pack.

Really? Which discoveries?

ajekpaks:


Mr. Sane, I agree I am mad because I refuse to accept the junk stuffed down your throats... I'm sorry



Ordinary Satan hold your God for work since Genesis, upon say Jesus don come earth yet na still same same... tell me WEtin come be the use exactly of God?

Na him use him hand create Satan, Satan Fuxk up, next thing e go create Adam, Satan still fuxk Adam up, na still God come use him hand go build hell fire wet him go dey put people wey Satan don fuxk up... that effort wey him use dey construct hell why him no use am fix Satan up once and for all?

Tell me?

they got no answer for this,, all they've got is "my Bible tells me" no brain to think for themselves

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It's mostly made up...

In the beginning Man created God...



Clear me How? Your ever loving God that created me will now throw me into the lake of fire that he created in case I don't love him back? so that I will burn for eternity?

Ha... ha... ha...

Na the chain wey them use hold Youna be that... So I understand



Exactly, Religion is man's attempt at explaining his existence, therefore they invent stories according to the history of their origins...

World powers after conquering colonies, impose their system of worship on them and just as in our case in Nigeria, the Christian and Islamic missionaries imposing their diverging ways on us but because it was gift wrapped with education and so called civilization and forced down by slavery, we became trapped...

...

frowland:

My brother, it’s not about insults. There is something fundamentally wrong with the book especially the Old Testament.
Example: The escapades of Moses and Caleb, Joshua etc is exactly as Bokoharam is to Nigeria.
'God said we should kill all of you and take over your land.'
When you read those things ever wondered that those massacres include kids, babies, pregnant woman and the elderly! Ever wondered?

That is not true! Go read again, you will see that they attacked God (Isreal) first like Russia attacked Ukraine.

Israel was on their own when they came attacking.

Welrez:
God is the refuge of the clueless!

And they eat fat and live very well. Thus, every reasonable person would say that this living is by far better than a hungry "i know it all" who goes about complaining how life and living is hard and that nobody cares.

Mr. "I know it" care for yourself and give yourself everything you need and want and stop complaining, after all you have power and full of clues, so use them to give yourself a good living for we clueless are waiting to mock you when you lament and wail.

HealerH:
Atheism is a lazy man's excuse for living an immoral lifestyle.

Obviously you haven't noticed atheist countries have less crime rates than theist countries. Countries like Netherlands, New Zealand with relatively higher number of atheists have almost empty jails while less atheist countries like Nigeria, Brazil etc have overflowing jails
Abeg talk another lie, bro

immortalmortal:


this is one of the most senseless post on nairaland. Everyone knows man made phones but the only thing man knows about god is what man wrote about him. Maybe gods are debating somewhere that they made man

You mean a god made man and decided to hide himself from his creation? Interesting. I thought your good book said he has revealed himself to us? Oh, by the way, we're aren't just creations. We were supposedly made in god's image. So we are not just another 'phone'

Dtruthspeaker:


Lies! God lovers live a very good filled and sweetly rewarding living which makes the whole world hate them.

Judging by your deposition, Africans (and Nigerians in particular) live better lives than the ungodly Europeans and Americans.
Lol
Abeg which country una dey run go dey find good life?

peggywebbs:
Why are you angry? Or do you belong to the angry category of atheists? Don't worry I'll pray for you tonight for God to heal your heart.

Yeah. I know all these tactics.
Ask a theist to show prove of god and he says you're angry or he gets angry and threatens you with hell. It's getting so boring

Wilgrea7:


Since when is it a bad thing to ask questions. The only difference between the person who asks and the person who doesn't, is that the former has a desire to learn, while the latter doesn't. Asking questions doesn't make one stupid. Now you just sound salty.

There is a place where reasonable questions terminate eg You:who took my chair?

Me: It is me, Mfon.

You: Why did you take it?

Me: because I wanted to sit down.

Then you make the mistake of asking "why do you want to sit down?"

Now, you have entered into the world of stupid questions.

Now, if I wanted to if you are stupid, I would answer

Me: because my leg was paining me. And I know you would say

You: why is your leg paining you?.

Now, without doubt, such a person is stupid.

There is a place where all reasonable questions terminate as you see in this thread.

No reasonable person asks questions unendingly because a stupid question is just right at the corner waiting to make you a stupid person.

I wonder if you would ask "why is stupidity at the corner? Or why is there a place where reasonable questions terminate" o boy,

SmartPolician:


God can never appear to any man if that's what you expect.

He wants to know people who genuinely love and fear Him without seeing Him.


It's better to believe that heaven exists, prepare for it and later find out that it doesn't exist than not believe that heaven exists, live a reckless lifestyle and find out that hell is real.

Another gaffe. I thought your Jehovah appeared to many men in the Bible? Why this sudden shyness?
Nigga just went AWOL when many atheists are popping up asking where he went
By the way, about your last sentences, isn't is safer to believe and love the Flying Spaghetti Monster than to die and find out the frying hot noodle is real, and you burn forever?

sinkhole:
Na dat one shock you?
OK, what of the fact the Cain married from people that came out of nowhere

See it here:
And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

See guy, if na loop holes, dem full that Bible. There was a time I was just finding loop hole after loop holes. I had to stop. No need. That book is a poorly written fairy tales. I doubt Grimm Brothers would do a poorer job

jaephoenix:

Judging by your deposition, Africans (and Nigerians in particular) live better lives than the ungodly Europeans and Americans.
Lol
Abeg which country una dey run go dey find good life?

1) said God lovers and not false God lovers.

2) Africans used to live better great foods, free land and housing, family and security until you people became "American and European" now you are cursed as they are, now you are jobless as they are, your children are hungry, homeless, useless drug addicts, lonely suicidal, murderers and thieves, as they are.

Kaniff:
An atheist not believing in God is actually a contradicting statement.
The fact one doesn't believe in a God makes one believe in God the more only that you deny the fact because of lack of evidence. So in conclusion, there are no atheist but people who have not realized the God in them or rather let God find expression through them

Go and take your medication

Dtruthspeaker:


1) said God lovers and not false God lovers.

2) Africans used to live better great foods, free land and housing, family and security until you people became "American and European" now you are cursed as they are, now you are jobless as they are, your children are hungry, homeless, useless drug addicts, lonely suicidal, murderers and thieves, as they are.

Don't have to insult your father like that.

Dtruthspeaker:


The Bible also said that they had other "sons and daughters". And when you add the fact that they lived very long, then you can see how many they shall and can multiply.

And you can see that men who aren't even up to 80 years have had up to 12 children, who would grow up to have their own children.

Meanwhile Papa Adam still dey alive and maybe still releasing new "brothers and sisters".

Therefore, Cain could still be furiously killed when he was in his 225th year.

It's as simple as that!

Because of u I went through Genesis 4 again. Nowhere was it written that Adam and Eve had other children apart from Cain, Abel and Seth. In fact Cain married his imaginary wife before Seth was born
I have Genesis 4 for you, just so you won't slip away



[b]And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

3 And in process of time it came to , that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.

4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:

5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

6 And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to , when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

9 And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?

10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.

11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;

12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.

13 And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear.

14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to , that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

16 And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

18 And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.

19 And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.

20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle.

21 And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.

22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.

23 And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.

24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.

25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the [/b]

sundaygray:
Omo i observed the life, learned different religions sat down and thought about life in general and also, never had a spiritual encounter i have spent money, a lot of money for a spiritual encounter but no level baba.The lack of evidence just makes me chill. Unless God appears and shows himself to me, no level

It takes a lot of faith to believe that there is no God. I mean, putting fate on d fact that nothing created everything. Hmm

Dtruthspeaker:


1) said God lovers and not false God lovers.

2) Africans used to live better great foods, free land and housing, family and security until you people became "American and European" now you are cursed as they are, now you are jobless as they are, your children are hungry, homeless, useless drug addicts, lonely suicidal, murderers and thieves, as they are.

1. See as u r contradicting yourself. Who are the false god lovers? Can you name them? Are you saying the god Christians around me love are false?
2. Another gaffe. Another contradiction. Can you remind me when Africans were 'Leaving better lives'?

Lamanii22:
you can't be an atheist in Lagos..,

Im an atheist. I live in Lagos
Blow another lie

Karnice600:


I think most atheist get it all muddled up when they start tryna trace their way back through a hole and a bubble...
I got to this point too, but it always ended up in my looking stupid, until I asked the question, "What is the purpose of life?"
That was when lines began falling in places and the puzzles began fitting, creating a vivid picture of the dimensional realities that hold existence together.
I never hated the idea of a Creator, I only had an open mind to learn

So what's the purpose of life?

Kobojunkie:
Yet you continue to speak off me.

Again, the Truth I believe in isn't subjective since the source is not of me, and again, I was never told this truth since my birth, so try to stick to speaking for yourself and not others in this.

The Truth I believe in is over 2000 years old, so it was even more than 140 years ago.

Many truths are subjective, even if they can be shared. You keep saying truth it's not of you, but there's no denying that what you call truth is of a certain group of people, from a certain part of Earth, at a certain point in time. It is also colored by that people's cultural history and experiences. That is the essence of the subjective (i.e. it is not universally held by all peoples, at all time, nor is it objectively constant, in spite of what you may think).

We, in West Africa, did not learn of this truth till about 140 years ago, and we learned of it by being told it as part of our upbringing. It's a fact that you would not have learned this truth if you lived more than 140 years ago in West Africa. It did not reveal itself to you without the intervention of missionaries, never mind its age.

I'm also going further to say that if instead the missionaries were Roman, or Mayan, or Thai, you would not hold the truth of the Abrahamic God, but instead of the ones that brought their religion with them. In other words: you believe what you have been conditioned to believe.

You may say I am speaking for you, and in a way I am. I can make the statement: "you likely won't be speaking English if Nigeria wasn't colonized, or if it was colonized instead by the French". I am making the same statement: "you likely won't be speaking of Abrahamic God if their missionaries didn't bring it".

sundaygray:


I studied the bible too a lot. Everything sounded like a myth just like there’s Zeus and mount olympus, and santa. There’s lack of evidence that’s the problem.

So the gospel of Jesus Christ lacks evidence? Baba u need to humble urself and seek God, that is the only way u can find Him. ur not believing in God won't won't add or remove anything from Him, na u go kuku spend eternity in Hell/lake of fire.

But if u will humble urself and ask God to reveal Himself to u, acknowledge the fact that u are not sure of His existence, but u wish to know and that He should reveal Himself to u..I assure u, do this in a sincere heart and u will find Jesus Christ ready to welcome u to His kingdom.

One question I think was/is pertinent is: "who wrote what, and how do we ascertain the veracity?" Veracity of the claimed author, veracity of the claimed events, etc.

sageb:


@cooooooks come and tell us why?