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Is there a particular one woman for man to marry, and vice versa?

crows2ravens:
Question
Is there a particular one woman for man to marry, and vice versa?

The idea of a particular man for a particular woman is not born of God who Instead said marriage is an agreement between a man and a woman. So long as any man and any woman agree to become husband and wife, marriage is established between the two.

Kobojunkie:
The idea of a particular man for a particular woman is not born of God who Instead said marriage is an agreement between a man and a woman. So long as any man and any woman agree to become husband and wife, marriage is established between the two.

Lady, You are just old and bitter.
When did eve agree to be adam partner?
Is that not forced consent?

SHALOM!

crows2ravens:

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Is there a particular one woman for man to marry, and vice versa?

GIVEN THE CURRENT SITUATION IN THE COUNTRY, IT IS HIGHLY DISAPPOINTING TO ME THAT YOU SHOULD OPEN SUCH A THREAD, WITH SUCH A QUESTION.

I completely understand why you might find it a priority to know this.

. DIANETICS AXIOMS.

THE Source of Life is a static
of peculiar and particular properties

[A LIFE STATIC has no size,
no shape, no mass, no temperature,
no frequency, nor any other physical property.]

2. At least a portion of the static
called life is impinged upon
the Physical Universe.
3. That portion of the Static of Life
which is impinged upon
the Physical Universe
has for its Dynamic Goal
SURVIVAL and ONLY Survival.
4. The Physical Universe
is reducible to motion of energy
operating in Space through Time.
5. That portion of the Static of Life
concerned with the Life Organisms
of the Physical Universe
is concerned WHOLLY with MOTION.

22. Theta and Thought
are similar orders of static.
23. All Thought is concerned
with Motion.
26. Thought is accomplished
by Theta Facsimiles
of Physical Universe,
Entities or Actions.

99. Theta Facsimiles can recombine
into new symbols.
100. Language is the symbolization
of effort.
101. Language depends for its force
upon the force which accompanied
its definition.

[Note: Counter-effort, not language, is aberrative.]

109. Behavior is modified
by Counter-Efforts which have
impinged on the Organism.

115. SELF-DETERMINISM is
the Theta Control of the Organism.
116. A SELF-DETERMINED EFFORT
is that Counter-Effort
which has been received
into the Organism in the Past
and integrated into the organism
for its Conscious Use.

119. Agreement with any Source,
contra- or pro-survival,
postulates a New Reality
for the organism.
120. Non-Survival Courses,
Thoughts and Actions
require Non-Optimum Effort.
121. Every Thought has been preceded
by Physical Action.
122. The Mind does with Thought
as it has done with entities
in the Physical Universe.

127. All perceptions reaching
the organism's sense channels
are recorded and stored by Theta Facsimile.

Definition: Perception is the process
of recording data from
the Physical Universe and storing it
as a Theta Facsimile.

Definition: Recall is the process
of regaining Perceptions.
128. Any organism can recall
everything which it has perceived.

. SCIENTOLOGY AXIOMS 1-12.

Life is basically a Static.

Definition: a Life Static has
no mass,
no motion, no wavelength,
no location in space or in time.
It has the ability to postulate and to perceive.

2. The Static is capable of Considerations,
Postulates, and Opinions.
3. Space, Energy, Objects, Form,
and Time are the result of Considerations
made and/or agreed upon or not
by the Static,
and are perceived solely because the Static considers that it can perceive them.
4. Space is a Viewpoint of Dimension.
5. Energy consists of
postulated particles
in Space.
6. Objects consist of grouped particles
and solids.
7. Time is basically a postulate
that Space and particles will persist.
8. The apparency of Time is
the change of position of particles in space.
9. Change is the primary
manifestation of Time.
10. The Highest Purpose in this Universe
is the Creation of an Effect.

11. THE CONSIDERATIONS RESULTING IN
CONDITIONS OF EXISTENCE
ARE FOUR-FOLD.

(a) AS-IS-NESS is the condition of immediate creation without persistence,
and is the condition of existence which exists at the moment of creation
and the moment of destruction, and is different from other considerations
in that it does not contain survival.

(b) ALTER-IS-NESS is the Consideration which introduces change
and therefore time and persistence, into an AS-IS-NESS
to obtain persistency.

(c) IS-NESS is an apparency of existence brought about
by the continuous alteration of an AS-IS-NESS.
This is called, when agreed upon, Reality.

(d) NOT-IS-NESS is the effort
to handle IS-NESS
by reducing its condition
through the use of force.
It is an apparency
and cannot entirely
vanquish an IS-NESS.

12. The Primary Condition
of any Universe is that
two Spaces, Energies,
or Objects must not
occupy the same Space.
When this condition is violated
[Perfect Duplicate]
the Apparency of any Universe
or any part thereof is nulled.

. SCIENTOLOGY AXIOMS 41-52.

41. That into which
Alter-Is-ness is introduced
becomes a Problem.
42. MEST (Matter, Energy, Space, Time)
persists because it is a Problem.
43. Time is the primary source of Untruth.
It is a problem because it contains Alter-Is-ness.
44. Theta (the static) has no location in Matter, Energy,
Space or Time.
It is capable of consideration.
45. Theta can consider itself
to be placed, at which moment
It becomes placed,
and to that degree a problem.
46. Theta can become a Problem by its considerations,
but Then becomes MEST.
A problem is to some degree MEST.
MEST is a problem.
47. Theta can resolve problems.
48. Life is a Game wherein Theta as the Static solves the
Problems of Theta as MEST.
49. To solve any Problem
it is only necessary to become
Theta, the Solver,
rather than Theta, the Problem.
50. Theta as MEST must contain
Considerations which are Lies.
52. MEST persists and solidifies
to the degree that it is
not granted life.

. THE EIGHT DYNAMICS:

1. SELF; 2. FAMILY; 3. GROUPS; 4. ALL MANKIND; 5. ALL LIVING THINGS; 6. THE MEST (Matter, Energy, Space, Time - i.e. PHYSICAL) UNIVERSE; 32. SPIRITS; 40. GOD.

. THE SIX LEVELS OF EXISTENCE.

1. BELIEFS; 2. THOUGHTS; 3. WORDS; 4. PHYSICAL ACTIONS; 5. POSTULATES; 6. TOTAL UNDERSTANDING.

. THE EIGHT LEVELS OF LIFE FORCE.

1. ALPHA, the 7th Heaven.
2. BETA, the 6th Heaven.
3. GAMMA, the 5th Heaven.
4. DELTA, the 4th Heaven.
5. EPSILON, the 3rd Heaven.
6. ZETA, the 2nd Heaven.
7. ETA, the 1st Heaven.
8. THETA, the Earth Universe.

[See: SCIENTOLOGY 0-8: The Book of Basics, by L. Ron Hubbard (1970).]

. THE NINE TIME VECTORS.

PAST to PAST; PAST to PRESENT; PAST to FUTURE.
PRESENT to PAST; PRESENT to PRESENT; PRESENT to FUTURE.
FUTURE to PAST; FUTURE to PRESENT; FUTURE to FUTURE.

[See: EXCALIBUR REVISITED, by Geoffrey Filbert.]

All things that exist are created from a SPIRITUAL ENERGY IMAGE CALLED A FACSIMILE, which is a deliberately degraded duplicate of GOD.

. JOHN 1:1-14.

IN The Beginning was the Word,
and The Word was with God,
and The Word was God.
2. The same was in The Beginning
with God.
3. All things were made by Him;
and without him was not
any thing made that was made.
4. In him was Life;
and The Life was The Light of Men.
5. And The Light shineth in Darkness;
and The Darkness comprehended It not.

6. There was a man sent from God,
whose name was John.
7. The same came for a Witness,
to bear witness of The Light,
that all men through him might believe.
8. He was not That Light,
but was sent to bear witness
of That Light.
9. That was The True Light,
Which Lighteth every man
that cometh into the World.
10. He was in the World,
and the World was made by him,
and the world knew him not.
11. He came unto his own,
and his own received him not.
12. But as many as received him,
to them gave he power to become the sons of God,
(even) to them
that believe on his Name:
13. Which were born,
not of blood,
nor of the Will of the Flesh,
nor of the Will of Man,
but of God.
14. And the Word was made flesh,
and dwelt among us,
[and we beheld his Glory,
the Glory as of
The Only Begotten of The Father,]
full of Grace and Truth.

YOCHANNAN'S BRILLIANT EXPOSITION IS MUCH PRIZED BY THE SHALLOW CHRISTIAN MAJORITY, WHO DO NOT CARE THAT IT VIOLATES THE TEACHINGS OF LORD YESHUA.

. MATTHEW 11:25-30.

25. At that time Jesus Answered
and Said,

"I thank Thee,
O Father,
Lord of Heaven and Earth,
because thou hast hid these things
from the wise and prudent,
and hast revealed them unto babes.
26. "Even so, Father:
for so it seemed good in Thy Sight.
27. "All things are delivered unto me
of my Father:
and no man knoweth The Son,
but The Father;
neither knoweth any man The Father,
save The Son,
and he to whomsoever The Son
will reveal him.
28. "Come unto me,
all ye that labour
and are heavy laden,
and I will give you rest.
29. "Take my Yoke upon you,
and learn of me;
for I am meek and lowly in heart:
and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30. "For my Yoke is easy,
and my burden is light."

. MATTHEW 16:13-28.

13. When Jesus came
into the coasts
of Caesarea Philippi,
he Asked his Disciples,
Saying,

"Whom do men say that I
The Son of Man am?"

14. And they said,

"Some say that thou
art John the Baptist:
some, Elias;
and others, Jeremias,
or one of the Prophets."

15. He Saith unto them,

"But whom say ye that I am?"

16. And Simon Peter answered
and said,

"Thou art the Christ,
The Son of The Living God."

17. And Jesus Answered
and Said unto him,

"Blessed art thou,
Simon Barjona:
for Flesh and Blood hath not
Revealed It unto thee,
but my Father
Which is in Heaven.
18. "And I Say also unto thee,

'THAT THOU ART PETER,
AND UPON UPON THIS ROCK
I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH;
AND THE GATES OF HELL
SHALL NOT PREVAIL
AGAINST IT.'

19. "And I will give unto thee
The Keys of
The Kingdom of Heaven:
and whatsoever
thou shalt bind on Earth
shall be bound in Heaven:
and whatsoever
thou shalt loose on Earth
shall be loosed in Heaven."

20. Then charged he his Disciples
that they should tell no man
that he was Jesus The Christ.
21. From that time forth
began Jesus to shew
unto his Disciples,
how that he must go
unto Jerusalem,
and suffer many things
of the Elders
and Chief Priests and Scribes,
and be killed,
and be raised again
the third day.
22. Then Peter took him,
and began to rebuke him,
saying,

"Be it far from thee, Lord:
his shall not be unto thee."

23. But he turned,
and Said unto Peter,

"Get thee behind me, Satan:
thou art an Offence unto me:
for thou savourest not
The Things that be of God,
but those that be of men."

24. Then Said Jesus
unto his Disciples,

"If any man
will come after me,
let him deny himself,
and take up his cross,
and follow me.
25. "For whosoever
will save his life
shall lose it:
and whosoever will
lose his life for my sake
shall find it.
26. "For what is
a man profited,
if he shall gain
the whole World,
and lose his own Soul?
Or what shall a man give
in exchange for his Soul?
27. "For the Son of Man
shall come
in The Glory of his Father
with his Angels;
and then he shall Reward
every man according to
his Works.
28. "Verily I Say unto you,

'THERE BE SOME
STANDING HERE,
WHICH SHALL NOT
TASTE OF DEATH,
TILL THEY SEE
THE SON OF MAN
COMING IN HIS KINGDOM.' "



. MATTHEW 24:1-5.

AND Jesus went out,
and departed from the Temple:
and his Disciples came to him
for to shew him the Buildings
of The Temple.
2. And Jesus Said unto them,

"See ye not all these things?
Verily I Say unto you,

'THERE SHALL NOT
BE LEFT HERE
ONE STONE UPON ANOTHER
THAT SHALL NOT BE
THROWN DOWN.'

3. And as he sat upon
the mount of Olives,
the Disciples came
unto him privately,
saying,

"Tell us,
when shall these things be?
And what shall be
The Sign of thy Coming,
and of The End of the World?"

4. And Jesus Answered
and Said unto them,

"Take heed
that no man deceive you.
5. "For many shall come
in my Name,
saying, I am Christ;
and shall deceive many."

. MARK 8:27-30.

27. And Jesus went out,
and his Disciples,
into the towns
of Caesarea Philippi:
and by the way,
he asked his Disciples,
saying unto them,

"Whom do men say that I am?"

28. And they answered,

"John the Baptist:
but some (say), 'Elias;'
and others,
One of the Prophets.' "

29. And he Saith unto them,

"But whom saith ye that I am?"

And Peter answereth
and saith unto him,

"Thou art The Christ."

30. And he charged them
that they should
tell no man of him.

. JOHN 6:42-47.

42. And they said,

“Is not this Jesus,
the son of Joseph,
whose father and mother
we know?
How is it then that he Saith,

‘I CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN?' "

43. Jesus therefore Answered
and Said unto them,

“Murmur not among yourselves.
44. "No man can come to me
unless The Father
Who hath sent me draw him;
and I will raise him up
at The Last Day.
45. "It is written in the Prophets:

‘AND THEY SHALL BE
ALL TAUGHT BY GOD.’

Every man therefore
that hath heard and hath learned
From The Father
cometh unto me.
46. "Not that any man
hath seen The Father,
save he that is of God;
he hath seen The Father.
47. "Verily, verily, I Say unto you,

'HE THAT
BELIEVETH ON ME
HATH EVERLASTING LIFE.' "
[/quote]

EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS IS BASED ON A FACSIMILE (LOGOS) WHICH HAS AN EFFECT ON AT LEAST ONE LEVEL OF EXISTENCE

The Past, Present, and Future of any Thing or Being can be *Read* in its Facsimile. This is called "Fate," "Destiny," "Karma," and so on.

Successful Prognostication depends upon the subjects being either ignorant of their Future, or else compliant with It.

For subjects to become aware of their Designated Futures, is receiving The Power to Change It.

THE DYNAMICS HAVE PLANS FOR THE FUTURES OF THEIR [/i]

oaroloye:


. THE FORTY AWARENESS LEVELS.

40. SERENITY
30. POSTULATES
22. GAMES
20. ACTION
8.0 EXHILARATION
6.0 AESTHETICS
4.0 ENTHUSIASM
3.5 CHEERFULNESS
3.0 CONSERVATISM
2.5 BOREDOM
2.0 OVERT HOSTILITY
1.8 PAIN
1.5 ANGER
1.4 HATE
1.2 NO SYMPATHY
1.1 COVERT HOSTILITY
1.0 FEAR
0.9 SYMPATHY
0.5 GRIEF
0.1 APATHY
0.0 BODY DEATH.

[See: SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL: The Prediction of Human Behaviour, by L. Ron Hubbard (1951).]

. THE AWARENESS LEVELS REQUIRED TO COMMAND THE DYNAMICS.

8. SELF; 12. GROUPS; 15. ALL MANKIND; 22. MEST UNIVERSE; 32. SPIRITS; 40. GOD.

[See: THE DYNAMICS AND TONE SCALE, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25)

(1) TOTAL RECALL.
(2) EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
(3) TELEKINESIS.
(4) TELEPORTATION.
(5) TRANSLATION.
(6-10) EVERLASTING LIFE.

. THE TEN POUNDS OF DOMINION. (Luke 19:11-27.)

(1) THE ABOVE; (2) THE BELOW.
(3) THE EARTH; (4) THE NETHER REALMS.
(5) FIRE; (6) WATER.
(7) THE MOVING; ( THE STATIONARY.
(9) THE LOUD; (10) THE SILENT.

[See: SCIENTOLOGY: The Book of Basics, by L. Ron Hubbard (1970).
THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda (1985).]

oaroloye:

. MARK 11:12-26.

12. And on the morrow,
when they had
come from Bethany,
he was hungry:
13. And seeing a fig tree
afar off having leaves,
he went to see if perhaps
he might find
any thing thereon:
But when he came to it
he found nothing
but leaves;
for the time
for figs was not (yet).

14. And Jesus Answered
and Said unto it,

“Let no man
eat fruit of thee hereafter
for ever.”

And his Disciples heard (it).

20 And in the morning,
as they ed by,
they saw the fig tree
dried up from the roots.
21. And Peter,
calling to remembrance
saith unto him,

“Master, behold,
the fig tree
which thou cursedst
is withered away.”
22. And Jesus Answering,
Said unto them,

“Have Faith in God.
23. "For verily I Say unto you,

[i]'THAT WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY
UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN,

"BE THOU REMOVED,
AND BE THOU
CAST INTO THE SEA;'

AND SHALL NOT
DOUBT IN HIS HEART,
BUT SHALL BELIEVE
THAT THOSE THINGS
WHICH HE SAITH
SHALL COME TO ;
HE SHALL HAVE
WHATSOEVER HE SAITH.'

24. "Therefore I Say unto you,

'WHAT THINGS SOEVER YE DESIRE,
WHEN YE PRAY,
BELIEVE THAT YE RECEIVE (THEM),
AND YE SHALL HAVE (THEM).'

25. "And when ye stand praying,
forgive, if ye have aught against any,
that your Father also
which is in Heaven
may forgive you your treses.
26. "But if ye do not forgive,
neither will your Father
Which is in Heaven
forgive your treses."

"IF YOU KNOW YOURSELF
AND KNOW YOUR ENEMY,
YOU NEED NOT FEAR THE OUTCOME
EVEN OF A HUNDRED BATTLES.
IF YOU KNOW YOURSELF
BUT NOT YOUR ENEMY,
FOR EVERY VICTORY
YOU WILL SUSTAIN A DEFEAT.
IF YOU KNOW NEITHER YOURSELF
NOR YOUR ENEMY,
YOU WILL SUCCUMB EVERY TIME."
. -Sun Tzu.

THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF AWARENESS: CHRONIC AND ACUTE.

CHRONIC Awareness is the routine, rest state.

ACUTE Awareness is the level attained while confronting a Dynamics Problem. If the necessary level is attained, the Problem will be overcome.

If not, then the DYNAMIC will DICTATE the subject's disposition.

Maynman:


Lady, You are just old and bitter.
When did eve agree to be adam partner?
Is that not forced consent?

EVE AGREED TO BE A SLAVE TO THE SERPENT (5[suo]th[/sup] DYNAMIC,) WHEN SHE CHOSE TO OBEY HIM, RATHER THAN GOD.

.   GENESIS 3:14-19.

14. And The LORD God Said
unto the Serpent,

"Because thou
hast done this,
thou art Cursed
above all Cattle,
and above every
Beast of the Field;
upon thy belly shalt thou go,
and dust shalt thou eat
all the days of thy life:
15. "And I will put Enmity
between thee and the Woman,
and between thy seed
and her seed;
it shall bruise thy head,
and thou shalt bruise his heel."

16. Unto the Woman He Said,

"I will greatly multiply thy sorrow
and thy conception;
in sorrow thou shalt
bring forth children;
and thy desire shall be
to thy Husband,
and he shall rule over thee."

17. And unto Adam He Said,

"Because thou hast hearkened
unto the voice of thy wife,
and hast eaten of the Tree,
of which I Commanded thee,
Saying,

'THOU SHALT NOT
EAT OF IT:'

Cursed is the Ground for thy sake;
in sorrow shalt thou eat of It
all the days of thy life;
18. "Thorns also and thistles
shall it bring forth to thee;
and thou shalt eat
The Herb of the Field;
19. "In the sweat of thy face
shalt thou eat bread,
till thou return unto the Ground;
for out of it wast thou taken:
for dust thou art,
and unto dust shalt thou return."

EVERYTHING AND BEING GOD CREATES IS HIS RIGHTFUL SLAVE, WHOSE PURPOSE, SITUATION, AND FUTURE ARE DETERMINED BY HIM.

Once anything or any being departs from GOD'S NARRATIVE, they take a NEW NARRATIVE upon themselves.

GOD ISSUED NO COMMANDMENT AGAINST RAPE, IMPLYING THAT HE DOES NOT CARE WHOM MEN AND WOMEN MARRY: JUST THAT THEY CHOOSE LAWFULLY.

Once that Choice is made, however, it is a CAPITAL SIN to alter It.

Maynman:


Lady, You are just old and bitter.
When did eve agree to be adam partner?
Is that not forced consent?

This is not that kind of thread. No insults please. If you don't consider yourself a Christian you have no business here.

crows2ravens:


This is not that kind of thread. No insults please. If you don't consider yourself a Christian you have no business here.

Says who? a monolatrist?