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I see another Nebuchadnezzar emerging

Odingo1:

That is plagiarism , that is how the writers of Koran copied from the New Testament of Bible and Jewish Torah while Jewish Torah copied some verses from Sumerian religion in Mesopotamia in the Epic of Gilgamesh which is oldest religious tablet unearthed in ancient Babylon.

Wow!

Surayj123:



See talk, point of correct the quran was revealed, the torah, the bible and the quran were all revealed by the same God, that why there is similarities in these books, so no one copy from each other

I'm sure the book of Yeezus was also revealed by God.

Odingo1:

That is plagiarism , that is how the writers of Koran copied from the New Testament of Bible and Jewish Torah while Jewish Torah copied some verses from Sumerian religion in Mesopotamia in the Epic of Gilgamesh which is oldest religious tablet unearthed in ancient Babylon.

See as this one quickly change the thread to muslim vs Christian, wetin concern muslim for this thread?

Black man. What do you expect?
I wonder who shipped them to the Western world originally not meant for them.

Kanye, very smart. Everyone missed the message. Telling the truth but people think he is crazy.

Surayj123:


Bring evidence that they are 29 different quran, u are pained because u know it is the only book that has nt been change since it was revealed. Dont bring false claim without evidence

The one chosen to be the standard Qira'at was Hafs, in 1924. Hafs was a student/transmitter who died in 796 AD. He lived in Kufa.

Futhermore, Hafs was not even one of the 'Readers', nor did he live alongside the prophet Muhammad, nor during the time of King Uthman.

Muhammand Al-Hussaini al-Hadad an Egyptian teacher at the University in Cairo, was asked by the Bureau of Education there, to choose ‘one’ of the Qira'ats as the authoritative one.

He chose Hafs.

His credentials are not known, and no one seems to know why he chose Hafs. This took place in 1924.

The “1400 year old Uthman argument” has only been around for 100 years. It is a recent argument which is currently falling to pieces, since it is utterly failing the test of ‘Historical Criticism’.

The list above, alone, proves this matter, and unfortunately the number of different Qira'ats/Qurans continues to rise as they are being discovered and reported.

In 2016, 26 different Qurans were discovered by Professor Hatun Tash, whom later presented them at the 'Speakers Corner' in London England with the help of Dr. Jay Smith.

They faced heavy opposition despite the clear evidence they had in their hands.

These 2 professionals have devoted many years studying the history of Islam and the authenticity of the Quran. Dr. Jay Smith began his scholarly research in this area during his time in India, and officially began taking on this issue in a public setting since 1995, starting with a debate in Cambridge.

Their findings are a phenomenal breakthrough.

No Muslim has confronted the ‘textual historical analysis’ of the Quran. The 6 manuscripts, each located in their respected places, Turkey, Uzbekistan, Paris, London, Egypt, and Yemen, were never challenged in the field of Academia until 2002–2007, by two Muslim scholars.

Kolomental redefined and redesigned

And mumu followers go buy the book....then 50years later a religion go fallout talk say na Kanye west create the world

tamdun:

See as this one quickly change the thread to muslim vs Christian, wetin concern muslim for this thread?

How is it turning the thread to Muslim vs Christian, probably you didn’t see where I stated that some verses and story in the Torah (Old Testament of the Bible) was copied from Epic of Gilgamesh the Sumerian world oldest religion unearthed by archeologists in present day Iraq which is areas of ancient Babylon.

Odingo1:

The one chosen to be the standard Qira'at was Hafs, in 1924. Hafs was a student/transmitter who died in 796 AD. He lived in Kufa.

Futhermore, Hafs was not even one of the 'Readers', nor did he live alongside the prophet Muhammad, nor during the time of King Uthman.

Muhammand Al-Hussaini al-Hadad an Egyptian teacher at the University in Cairo, was asked by the Bureau of Education there, to choose ‘one’ of the Qira'ats as the authoritative one.

He chose Hafs.

His credentials are not known, and no one seems to know why he chose Hafs. This took place in 1924.

The “1400 year old Uthman argument” has only been around for 100 years. It is a recent argument which is currently falling to pieces, since it is utterly failing the test of ‘Historical Criticism’.

The list above, alone, proves this matter, and unfortunately the number of different Qira'ats/Qurans continues to rise as they are being discovered and reported.

In 2016, 26 different Qurans were discovered by Professor Hatun Tash, whom later presented them at the 'Speakers Corner' in London England with the help of Dr. Jay Smith.

They faced heavy opposition despite the clear evidence they had in their hands.

These 2 professionals have devoted many years studying the history of Islam and the authenticity of the Quran. Dr. Jay Smith began his scholarly research in this area during his time in India, and officially began taking on this issue in a public setting since 1995, starting with a debate in Cambridge.

Their findings are a phenomenal breakthrough.

No Muslim has confronted the ‘textual historical analysis’ of the Quran. The 6 manuscripts, each located in their respected places, Turkey, Uzbekistan, Paris, London, Egypt, and Yemen, were never challenged in the field of Academia until 2002–2007, by two Muslim scholars.

U people keep talking about Qira'a without understanding what it's is. Qira'a is just Recitation. HAFS is chosen as the best not because it's different from the other ones but because it's simpler to read regardlessly of where u came from

NwekeUG:


https://igberetvnews.com/1408869/kanye-west-creates-new-bible-replaces-every-mention-god-kayne-photos/

Seun
Lalasticlala
Mynd44
Dominique
Ishilove
mukina2

Since Kim left him, despite paying his debts, he's running mad.
He's lucky in U.S., even the mad has tight. Here in naija, they would've bungled him to one prophet for routine flogging.

Digitallegendzx:
But Qur'an can never,will and forever continue to exist the way it is... As a matter of fact and proof to avoid unnecessary agurement and being qoute by religion bigots there is only one version of Qur'an forever Allahu Akbar...i believe in Bible as it was mentioned in the Qur'an also apostles Jesus peace be upon him.

you should be ashamed by mentioning Quran here. A book that encouraged hate and human killings shouldn't be compare with any thing. Quran is evil book.

Digitallegendzx:
But Qur'an can never,will and forever continue to exist the way it is... As a matter of fact and proof to avoid unnecessary agurement and being qoute by religion bigots there is only one version of Qur'an forever Allahu Akbar...i believe in Bible as it was mentioned in the Qur'an also apostles Jesus peace be upon him.

lol. you're the Religious Bigot here... If you want to talk trash about the Bible, say it with your full chest and stop trying to be smart

Digitallegendzx:
But Qur'an can never,will and forever continue to exist the way it is... As a matter of fact and proof to avoid unnecessary agurement and being qoute by religion bigots there is only one version of Qur'an forever Allahu Akbar...i believe in Bible as it was mentioned in the Qur'an also apostles Jesus peace be upon him.

Quran: one version unrevised over 1400 years and forever. One author- Almighty God. Accurate, consistent, protected from adulteration. The most read book ever.

We all know that he has been to rehabilitation centre severally. So, let's just bear with him. Sociologists say that the society is not complete without the mad men you see sleeping on the streets and the mad men you see in suits inside offices and homes.

If he tries this nonsense with the Quran, he may have to be living in CIA/FBI t office permanently, if not, he won't live to show his madness.

OMG.
The nerve!

What year?

Danzysb:
This is old story and done years ago,before he got saved.

Odingo1:

That is plagiarism , that is how the writers of Koran copied from the New Testament of Bible and Jewish Torah while Jewish Torah copied some verses from Sumerian religion in Mesopotamia in the Epic of Gilgamesh which is oldest religious tablet unearthed in ancient Babylon.

yes that is true the Sumerian tablet did detail the creation of man

Bluntguy:
Now I am on Kim's side.

Be specific, front side or back?

mu2sa2:

Quran: one version unrevised over 1400 years and forever. One author- Almighty God. Accurate, consistent, protected from adulteration. The most read book ever.

You know that Uthman burnt other versions of Koran manuscript when he finished compiling the present Koran. There are deferent versions of Koran with different Suras, some Sura is 120, 116 or 124. It was Uthman that burn other versions. How are you sure that the ones he burnt is not the original Koran.

You are lying by saying that Quran have only one version unrevised in over 1400 years. Uthman revised various versions of Quran, compiled it into one book and burnt other versions.

Okay

Danzysb:
This is old story and done years ago,before he got saved.

you are correct.

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Danjikanbauchi:
you should be ashamed by mentioning Quran here. A book that encouraged hate and human killings shouldn't be compare with any thing. Quran is evil book.

Tell me ONE book ever produced that’s as violent as the Bible.

S

NwekeUG:


https://igberetvnews.com/1408869/kanye-west-creates-new-bible-replaces-every-mention-god-kayne-photos/

Seun
Lalasticlala
Mynd44
Dominique
Ishilove
mukina2

What madness..

Nonybb:
THAT IS WHY I OFTEN CALLED CHRISTIANITY AS THE REAL "RELIGION OF PEACE". LET HIM TRY THAT WITH QURAN AND THE MUHAMMADANS WOULD DECLARE TAQQIYAH ON HIS HEAD. CHRISTIANS DON'T FOUGHT FOR GOD. THEY BELIEVED HE EXIST AND THAT HE WOULD DO THE WORK FOR HIMSELF UNLIKE OTHERS

Christianity is the “Religion of peace”. Ok, let’s start from The Crusades. Then, let’s go down to chattel slavery, and colonization (which is the reason why people like yourself are completely lost and always come across as loonies). Now, let’s move on to the Missionaries, Preachers, Bishops and Reverend Fathers and their love for pedoph*lia and how for almost 2000 yrs (and till this day) they enjoy r*ping little boys—NOT GIRLS— devilishly using the name of God as a disguise to carry out their nefarious activities. What about the millions murdered by Christian nations and their leaders in WW I. You know how many millions were also murdered in WW II by so-called Christian nations under the orders of their leaders? What about the theft and plunder of natural resources from Africa while making sure y’all stay in crippling debt and poverty which has led to i.e poor education as exhibited by more than quite a few in this thread. What about the overthrow and murder of African leaders that attempt to enlighten the people and open their eyes?

Don’t be steewwwpid, Christianity is a VERY, VERY violent Religion strewn with hypocrisy that’s caused more destruction all around the globe for almost 2000yrs, and the effects still linger till this day.

Digitallegendzx:
But Qur'an can never,will and forever continue to exist the way it is... As a matter of fact and proof to avoid unnecessary agurement and being qoute by religion bigots there is only one version of Qur'an forever Allahu Akbar...i believe in Bible as it was mentioned in the Qur'an also apostles Jesus peace be upon him.

mentioned in Quran that what?

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