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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:33pm On Apr 14, 2021
Appisko:


Something is seriously wrong with your head grin grin grin

Wtf is not funny anymore
There is nothing wrong in his post, you just need to calm your tirries dim-wt grin.

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rvp2018: 12:41pm On Apr 14, 2021
The truth hurts but are very stubborn things
1) Google opened it's first Sub-Saharan office (outside South Africa) in Nairobi in 2006/2007 - Our current Minister of ICT was hired as it's head.
http://whiteafrican.com/2007/06/05/google-hires-first-african-employee/

2) Kenya began planning for Konza Techno city in 2006 - as we saw investment in ICT sector ramp up.
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/konza-konza-technology-city-u-c.351166/

2021 - 2006 is 15yrs.

Ghana is excited about Twitter and Google AI office 15yrs later.

Stuff like Ushahidi - developed by my friends - were top hit in 2008 smiley

As for now - Nairobi (Kenya), Lagos and Joburg are competing for FDI to sector - with Nairobi leading mostly - Lagos second and Joburg third.
Appisko:


Something is seriously wrong with your head grin grin grin

Wtf is not funny anymore

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68816419: 12:58pm On Apr 14, 2021
rvp2018:
Nigeria has huge scope for growth in aviation. enger traffic of 17M for country 4 times more populated than kenya...Kenya is doing as of 2019..I think nearly 13m. That tells you Nigeria should be doing 50m engers...Not 17M. South Africa does more than 40M engers annually with OR Tambo in Joburg handling more than 20m. Worldwide more than 4.5B engers travel annually...so the scope is huge.

Fix the taxes and levies - and domestic airlines will be enough pie for many operators. Nigeria is huge country with poor road infrastructure - so air travel will be safe and convenient - and cheaper.

That place looks underdeveloped than what I thought at first, over 90% of the roads networks, drainage, and other infrastructures are not built, The Konza city will takes over 100 years to get completed .
Eko Atlantic started almost the same time Konza was designed and eko Atlantic has completed all major roads, 13 new bridges, underground drainage, 2 millions trees , Jetty terminals, street lighting, and even many ongoing structures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvuuVxmsbW0

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gallivant: 1:33pm On Apr 14, 2021
68816419:

That video makes Upper-hill looks like a big area, meanwhile upper-hill is smaller than a district in Victoria Island Lagos.

Lagos metro has a population of over 20 million while Nairobi is hovering around 4 million. The size of the city was never in contention, it's all about quality. Get your mind off the gutter!

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Just30: 1:36pm On Apr 14, 2021
gallivant:


Lagos metro has a population of over 20 million while Nairobi is hovering around 4 million. The size of the city was never in contention, it's all about quality. Get your mind off the gutter!
So you compare Lagos State population to Nairobi city population?

That's lame and a childish argument.

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rvp2018: 1:55pm On Apr 14, 2021
Eko City is private sector while Konza city is public sector driven.
Eko city is mixed used - Konza city is open only to tech and research companies.
konza city is 5000 - the 1st Phase (1A) -60 acres is well underway with horizontal infrastructure nearing completion.
Both cities are still largely unoccupied -
Konza has completed the secretariat office block and the data center.
68816419:

That place looks underdeveloped than what I thought at first, over 90% of the roads networks, drainage, and other infrastructures are not built, The Konza city will takes over 100 years to get completed .
Eko Atlantic started almost the same time Konza was designed and eko Atlantic has completed all major roads, 13 new bridges, underground drainage, 2 millions trees , Jetty terminals, street lighting, and even many ongoing structures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvuuVxmsbW0

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gallivant: 2:08pm On Apr 14, 2021
Just30:
So you compare Lagos State population to Nairobi city population?

That's lame and a childish argument.

If you didn't have your head up your @ss you would clearly see I mentioned Lagos Metro, not State!

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Kuruptnigga: 2:59pm On Apr 14, 2021
rvp2018:
What is impressive about these grainy pictures.

Upper hill alone would knock Abuja senseless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KesHKM8dXhw
What's so special about this upper hill crap. Garki alone will make your Nairobi look like a shitthol.

This is Garki. Just take your time, old man smiley

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DCZuyj2TpH1g&ved=2ahUKEwj6ka7Y8f3vAhVkxoUKHd5kCxYQ28sGMAB6BAgDEAc&usg=AOvVaw0WQAYxQnwfz0YtjIDdZ_eE
rvp2018: 3:28pm On Apr 14, 2021
Abuja - good roads - around the CBD - but generally low rise building - very sparse. The city still not there. It almost empty civil servant city.

Look at Nairobi CBD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYMEU3erBZ4

Are all west African based in south africa or MTN is sending internet traffic back to their home country.

Kuruptnigga:
What's so special about this upper hill crap. Garki alone will make your Nairobi look like a shitthol.

This is Garki. Just take your time, old man smiley

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DCZuyj2TpH1g&ved=2ahUKEwj6ka7Y8f3vAhVkxoUKHd5kCxYQ28sGMAB6BAgDEAc&usg=AOvVaw0WQAYxQnwfz0YtjIDdZ_eE

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rvp2018: 3:37pm On Apr 14, 2021
Just30: 4:24pm On Apr 14, 2021
gallivant:


If you didn't have your head up your @ss you would clearly see I mentioned Lagos Metro, not State!
Lagos metro does not have 20 million population.

Make grown up argument

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SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 4:51pm On Apr 14, 2021
Just30:

Lagos metro does not have 20 million population.

Make grown up argument

grin grin

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gallivant: 4:53pm On Apr 14, 2021
Just30:

Lagos metro does not have 20 million population.

Make grown up argument

I think I have the size argument covered. Save your concerns.

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SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 4:55pm On Apr 14, 2021
Dead giant of Africa

Kuruptnigga: 6:04pm On Apr 14, 2021
rvp2018:
Abuja - good roads - around the CBD - but generally low rise building - very sparse. The city still not there. It almost empty civil servant city.

Look at Nairobi CBD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYMEU3erBZ4

Are all west African based in south africa or MTN is sending internet traffic back to their home country.

Oga it's not all about skyscrapers. We're talking about development spread across the city.

What's there in Nairobi that you can't see in Abuja. How is Nairobi even developed than Abuja. I want to know

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Randlord: 6:06pm On Apr 14, 2021
Shma2020:


To answer this, your observation is wrong.
We don't have to learn city planning from SA since we have successfully maintained our zoning laws and bulding codes at the pick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-2t6FqELxs
If Quiet is what you wanted to say then I can confidently tell you that 'Nairobi quiet surburbs' have maintained their bulding codes and in no way will you find a tall tower standing in such areas.

FYI, Cytonn had in July 2017 received the NCC approval to build a triplex complex on a four-acre piece of land at the junction of Elgeyo Marakwet but due to its massive height, it was halted due to strict coding and zoning laws.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuoAznN-Alc

You can definitely learn landscaping and streetscaping from SA. At ground level your city is disappointing, over paved and not as green as it looks from above. Yes, you've managed to keep some semblance of zoning but to a learned eye there are glaring flaws with your zoning and how you implement it. In short there is no 'placemaking'.

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Randlord: 6:14pm On Apr 14, 2021
Kuruptnigga: 6:14pm On Apr 14, 2021
rvp2018:
Abuja - good roads - around the CBD - but generally low rise building - very sparse. The city still not there. It almost empty civil servant city.

Look at Nairobi CBD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYMEU3erBZ4

Are all west African based in south africa or MTN is sending internet traffic back to their home country.

Lol btw that's not t even close to The CBD ooo. That's Area 1, Garki Abuja. Hope you can see how clean the street is. Even the roads are wide. With trees everywhere. Abuja is not your mate, man cheesy

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Appisko: 6:21pm On Apr 14, 2021
Just30:

Lagos metro does not have 20 million population.

Make grown up argument

U get time to reply this riff raff

He is empty upstairs grin grin

U need to stop quoting that slowpoke

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Randlord: 6:25pm On Apr 14, 2021
gallivant: 6:30pm On Apr 14, 2021
Appisko:


U guys have time for that fool

Appisko:


U get time to reply this riff raff

He is empty upstairs grin grin

U need to stop quoting that slowpoke

Get off the fence and quote me directly. There is nothing to fear..

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gallivant: 6:30pm On Apr 14, 2021

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popizaino(m): 6:41pm On Apr 14, 2021
I celebrate every city regardless;

1st pic (Nairobi)

The rest Abuja.

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Appisko: 6:43pm On Apr 14, 2021
gallivant:




Get off the fence and quote me directly. There is nothing to fear..
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Acadavah: 6:58pm On Apr 14, 2021
rvp2018:
Alliance is not international school. It part of kenya nationals school - very bright kids from poor background like that Maasai are itted if they score very high marks in KE. Definitely Alliance High School graduate will take any Tanzania round in so many circles. That kid you see is studying Engineering...the TZ kid who looks bi-racial definitely cannot smell that boy in academic smiley smiley

Alliance is definitely one of the greatest school (actually THE GREATEST HIGH SCHOOL) in kenya with huge history - and most kenya leaders are product of the Alliance.


Alliance then Brookhouse which is an international school watch again. The lady is not biracial
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:59pm On Apr 14, 2021
Randlord:


You can definitely learn landscaping and streetscaping from SA. At ground level your city is disappointing, over paved and not as green as it looks from above. Yes, you've managed to keep some semblance of zoning but to a learned eye there are glaring flaws with your zoning and how you implement it. In short there is no 'placemaking'.
I'm glad you narrowed your argument down to landscaping and streetscaping smiley

Yes, Nairobi has some tasks to do on streetscaping. big up to NMS for bridging the aforementioned gap.

On landscaping, I'm lost cry.. Kindly enlighten me cos to my understanding the term is quite ambiguous, but if you imply the city gardening /nature improvement, then I will advice you to travel cos nature is nairobi' s first priority and her beautification is key as far as city planning is concerned.

The emboldened rings ignorance ignorance ignorance....... We all know SA cities are breathtaking and developed as far as African cities are concerned but any slight call out should not make you throw hatred out of effusive comments towards others, Nairobi is growing at neck breaking speed smiley.
AfriqueDuZuid: 7:00pm On Apr 14, 2021
Randlord:


The lack of cranes is not indicative of a dearth of construction and nor is construction an end in itself. Most of the construction of buildings is done and what's left are the roads and the streetscape. Look at that streetscape, will all due respect Nairobi can learn something. There needs to be some sort of a master plan, not tall buildings randomly plopped in the middle of quite suburbia.

I was in menlyn in February, the number of cranes and construction is all time high
rvp2018: 7:03pm On Apr 14, 2021
Over-paved? Less green. Kenya cities are actually under-paved and don't have a problem with greenery. If Joburg is thought to be green - Nairobi is congo forest. I can barely see vegetation in Cape Town or Durban.

As for zoning - yes there are obviously flaw linked to poverty - most especially in say Eastland of Nairobi.

Randlord:


You can definitely learn landscaping and streetscaping from SA. At ground level your city is disappointing, over paved and not as green as it looks from above. Yes, you've managed to keep some semblance of zoning but to a learned eye there are glaring flaws with your zoning and how you implement it. In short there is no 'placemaking'.

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rvp2018: 7:06pm On Apr 14, 2021
Don't act like a Ghanian. Alliance HAS NEVER been an international school.

Alliance is what we call national school in kenya. These are public schools that it student nationally. Normally they it the top 1 or 2 student in every district after KE (primary exams). It part of national quota - so you'll find a Maasai kid like him or Somali kid - as long as they lead in their district.

Some national schools in Kenya - Alliance Boys, Alliance Girls, Starehe Boys, Kenya High, etc etc.

Then we have provincial schools - they it kids within their province or now county.

Then we have district schools - it within district

Alliance - is normally among top school in Kenya - in KCSE. If you want to find out Kenya education prowess start from Alliance. See Kenya kids wake up at 3 am. 5 am all student are up. Teachers are up teaching by 5 AM!!!!!!!! - all these kids came top in their districts. They kill those SATS like nonsense and go to best universities if they want. Normally mean score is A or A-


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS-aETtbK6c

International School - those don't follow kenya system - mostly British or American or International curriculum - Brookhouse, ISK,Banda, St Andrew Turn, Rift Valley Academy, Braeburn, Crawford, Aga Khan

The day schools.

Acadavah:


Alliance then Brookhouse which is an international school watch again. The lady is not biracial

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AfriqueDuZuid: 7:08pm On Apr 14, 2021
Pitso Mosimane being offered 2 jobs

AfriqueDuZuid: 7:12pm On Apr 14, 2021
rvp2018:
Over-paved? Less green. Kenya cities are actually under-paved and don't have a problem with greenery. If Joburg is thought to be green - Nairobi is congo forest. I can barely see vegetation in Cape Town or Durban.

As for zoning - yes there are obviously flaw linked to poverty - most especially in say Eastland of Nairobi.

Durban is greenest city in the world got the tittle in 2020

Johannesburg is much greener, a lot of people got a picture of hilbrow tower and surrounding even they think of joburg

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Randlord: 7:25pm On Apr 14, 2021
Shma2020:
I'm glad you narrowed your argument down to landscaping and streetscaping smiley

Yes, Nairobi has some tasks to do on streetscaping. big up to NMS for bridging the aforementioned gap.

On landscaping, I'm lost :'(.. Kindly enlighten me cos to my understanding the term is quite ambiguous, but if you imply the city gardening /nature improvement, then I will advice you to travel cos nature is nairobi' s first priority and her beautification is key as far as city planning is concerned.

The emboldened rings ignorance ignorance ignorance....... We all know SA cities are breathtaking and developed as far as African cities are concerned but any slight call out should not make you throw hatred out of effusive comments towards others, Nairobi is growing at neck breaking speed smiley.

I mean the beautification of the surroundings once you put up a building (not necessarily the municipal parks), there is not enough thought or money put into how your new glittering skyscrapers interact with the surroundings IMO. The Two Rivers complex has set the benchmark from what I've seen though . BTW the phrase is 'break-neck speed' wink

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